Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[PeregrineV]

I was vanillaized.

Which sucks cause I would have had a permanent PT with Nacho

I think BBMolla is probably town.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Rogue Leader: Drunken Piper

[Drunken Piper]

(sip, DP knows this is a thing he must do, it is in the queue to read and comment in today life...sip...events)

[Heartless]

Heartless, when can we take out the trash and you stop attacking people who disagree with you? They've silenced everyone else.

who am i "attacking"? what are u talking about?

[Titus]

@Nero,

Ok, well thank you for detailing in why in the past 5 games (excluding ongoing) that you scumread my slot. I just see the end result every time and go Nero is scumreading me again, as always. I am not going to deny I was scum sometimes but still I just felt like you were doing that.

As for Molla claiming Vanillauzed before the guilty, yeah that's not going to happen unless BB had a reason to think Pine was going down. Pine had limited shots. Either scum had to risk a broken situation occurring by holding one of their vanillaize shots, or whenever Pine flipped we'd get 3 vanillaized claims for two shots. That puts a pool of 1 out of 3 for scum when Pine flips, and the associative tells. Rather than dismissing what I say as moon logic, why not talk to me? That's why I feel you are scummy. In the town versions, you put effort to get down to the root of my thinking. In the scum games, you were opposed regardless of what I said. Given the length of our opposition, it's hard to tell sometimes.

I don't really care that you don't like me stating Rogue Leader is a reward. It is. That's how I use it. I view players voting for town as likely to use their benefits to help scum. It's hard as fuck to get town to listen when I have been right and the collective is wrong.

Even now, giving you the benefit of the doubt since you started to engage me on everything but a plausible reason for a mastina/molla team, you're still wrong on BBMolla.

@Cakez, Dude, lying isn't your forte. I have a few solid reads, and that's despite Nero, Infinity, and my real life. I have tried to engage Heartless and DP, yet they are checked out. DP is prod dodging. Heartless is ego posting and has been since d1.

@AJ, Thank you, but why the fuck did you claim?

[Titus]

Heartless, when can we take out the trash and you stop attacking people who disagree with you? They've silenced everyone else.

who am i "attacking"? what are u talking about?

Zefiend.

Join me on SirCakez.

VOTE: SirCakez

[Titus]

To be clear Heartless, you're SRing people who disagree with you (zefiend) and ignoring the the whole gamestate. Infinity's spamming, SirCakez is lying, PeregrineV has awesome catchup, scum are trying to shade BBMolla (who you seem to think is town and are not stopping), and you're just sitting there fighting with zefiend over lord knows what?

[Aj The Epic]

@AJ, Thank you, but why the fuck did you claim?

A.) Don't trust Molla's claim in light of my knowledge
B.) It helps town in general if I'm killed just to clear that
C.) Wanted to see if I could use it on the Rogue Leader for effective protection.

[Titus]

@AJ, Thank you, but why the fuck did you claim?

A.) Don't trust Molla's claim in light of my knowledge
B.) It helps town in general if I'm killed just to clear that
C.) Wanted to see if I could use it on the Rogue Leader for effective protection.

1)Scum have a vanillaizer. That might as well be a neon sign that balance is shit this game.
2) One is false, all your death would show is that is you claimed jailkeeper, particularly given your push.
3) Ask the mod that.

Now, can you just join us on actually voting SirCakez so you can use your ability like you profess to protect town?

[Infinity 324]

Either scum had to risk a broken situation occurring by holding one of their vanillaize shots, or whenever Pine flipped we'd get 3 vanillaized claims for two shots.

This is a good point actually. What do you think mastin?

Another issue I have with the molla!scum narrative is why pine would risk dying before using all his shots given the day1 wagon thing and him joining the rogue crew.

People need to engage the people they disagree with more.

[Heartless]

So you aren't scumreading her. This is a problem.

are you scumreading zefiend?
do you trust me+tth's judgment?

if the answers to both those are yes, then there really is no problem at all. i am asking you to vote a scumread.

cake, plz vote zefiend

[Heartless]

To be clear Heartless, you're SRing people who disagree with you (zefiend) and ignoring the the whole gamestate.

if you really think this, your own grasp on the gamestate is quite tenuous

[Heartless]

and you're just sitting there fighting with zefiend over lord knows what?

i suggest you read the exchange before dismissing it

[Heartless]

That might as well be a neon sign that balance is shit this game.

firebringer is actually pretty good about balance imo

[Infinity 324]

Hey anti

Why is molla town again

[Titus]

and you're just sitting there fighting with zefiend over lord knows what?

i suggest you read the exchange before dismissing it

I will read it again, but I got nothing useful out of it and a hankering to drink to understand. You basically jyst said scum catchup and word vomited to me.

Given you ignoring everything else, it reinforced my beliefs. You, for instance, haven't addressed my scumreads or engaged in why I am wrong, yet you expect me to reread your posting multiple times when your actions make it clear what you are doing and it made no sense the first time.

[Heartless]

Hey anti

Why is molla town again

You're really close, but I think it would be antitown to push you there.

well there's really no unringing that bell now, so i think clarification is better

Can you clarify your BBMolla read and why?

town, vanillaized claim/occam's razor

[i also happen to think molla's role being a scum role would prob create very problematic balance issues but i guess that's just me, what do i know about balancing setups?]

[Heartless]

I will read it again, but I got nothing useful out of it and a hankering to drink to understand. You basically jyst said scum catchup and word vomited to me.

plz read it. IF NOTHING ELSE, read this:

in the opening post i feel like he's just sort of going through the motions and dryly pointing out things that MIGHT be scummy but there's really no direction to any of the thoughts and most all the reads just kind of end up in this weird limbo. i'm not really seeing any effort to go beyond surface level or any attempt to say what the most LIKELY situation is. it's the appearance of "gamesolving" without really solving anything.

[Infinity 324]

The balance issues are fair. But why wouldn't molla gambit like that?

[Titus]

I will read it again, but I got nothing useful out of it and a hankering to drink to understand. You basically jyst said scum catchup and word vomited to me.

plz read it. IF NOTHING ELSE, read this:

in the opening post i feel like he's just sort of going through the motions and dryly pointing out things that MIGHT be scummy but there's really no direction to any of the thoughts and most all the reads just kind of end up in this weird limbo. i'm not really seeing any effort to go beyond surface level or any attempt to say what the most LIKELY situation is. it's the appearance of "gamesolving" without really solving anything.

So he put out notes to solve them later in a stream of consciousness? Ok. Plus town points.

You should look at Smackdown. I was scum with him. Many short posts, not working with anyone and no detail to his catchups. Totally different personalities at play.

[TheWayItEnds]

yo heartless whats your position on making DP rogue leader

[Infinity 324]

Yo TWIE. Do shit.

[TheWayItEnds]

[Infinity 324]

Do you literally not have reads or what

I mean I get being lazy but you can at least put down a vote

[TheWayItEnds]

i really cant