Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)

[Elsa and Anna]

and a for page top!

#Elsa

[Infinity 324]

what wagon is being “diverted” from?

ooh ooh me me

How about the one they're voting

Anyway, your other points are decent.

Can I get a vote on them?

Just calling this for postgame, but I think there's a higher-than-average chance of MoI and E&A being scumbuddies. In which case we probably lost, but oh well

Oh hey so I'm a 1-shot role-cop too

Could be both town or one town and one scum I think. I actually played a mini normal where there were 2 neighbor rolecops lol (but full rolecops)

PEdit: Bye FA

I think the replace is NAI

[Infinity 324]

Catching up is boring. Someone talk to me about something

{spammers, gin}
{leon, flubber}
{aella, massive, cakez}
---------null line-------
{lane, MoI, n_m}
{E&A now RC}

[massive]

How does lane get below the null line?

[Infinity 324]

Spoiler: page 12

Once again I get the urge to townread Magna off his entrance, but at the same time I'm too paranoid about the player to do so.

Yeah I get this

I like Flubbernugget for town, asking useful questions and making useful comments.

Huh, really? I agree flubber looks town but not for this reason. (not just for the vote on E&A either)

Don't like everything leon is doing (the vote on spammers isn't really scummy but it's weak and repeating other people's reasons) but I still think he's more likely town than not. Last time I townread him for a handful of small towny lines he was town.

[Infinity 324]

How does lane get below the null line?

His first post was awkward and then he changed his tone which I found more suspicious. I did say I liked the follow up better but it's still possible from scum.

[lane0168]

So many pr claims! This game is a shit show lol. This day just needs to end. I'm still sketched by Leon, and him not doing any digging after the spyro claim. Didn't even bother to look to see if maybe spyro was ai. That doesn't seem like someone who is unsure about spyro's alignment.

Considering the amount of roles being thrown out, I have no idea if role cop is scum. I was leaning scum, until we had another one.

What do we have for role claims?

Gin-1 shot role cop neighbor
N_m- 1 shot role cop neighbor
E&a - friendly neighbor *psyche* messenger
Eager - spyro vig
Leon - something that tells him spyro is in the game

Can someone complete if I missed anything?

[lane0168]

How does lane get below the null line?

His first post was awkward and then he changed his tone which I found more suspicious. I did say I liked the follow up better but it's still possible from scum.

You're still on that first post? Figured you would realize how not fake it was. Considering its been 5 days, over 40 pages. A lot of shit show, and me posting when I have something to say. It's the nature of the game. That "fake" post is exactly how I felt and all feel

[lane0168]

I didn't change any tone. That's false

[Infinity 324]

Well I still haven't caught up so yeah I'm still on your first few posts...

Anyway, your arguments aren't very convincing...I thought your first post was fake. You say it wasn't? Ok, I'm not gonna take your word for it...I read a different tone between your first and second posts. You disagree? Ok, that's how I read it.

[lane0168]

VOTE: leonshade

I think this'll be scum knowing there's spyro. He says he's unsure of alignment of spyro, but did zero research to maybe figure out if it was. Seems like something you might do. But did no digging, considering he didn't know if it was AI, and didn't know town fraction is "loyal to spyro". Wouldn't you at least try to look at the setup, and look for anything hinting at alignment and see if there is anything alluding to spyro's alignment?

That still looks to be like someone who knows spyros alignment and wanted to be cautious and make it look like he didn't know

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Infinity

- please elaborate specifically on why you think Sir Cakez and Aella are Town (or more specifically above the Null line).

ooh ooh me me

How about the one they're voting

So is this sarcasm since your next line is “the rest of your points are good”? Because it clearly isn’t Town to say “Infinity came in and tried to derail from a wagon on his partner, let me move my vote from said wagon to someone else accomplishing exactly what I said was the motive”. In fact it should make hypo-Town RC more likely to keep voting the scum attempting to be diverted from.

Just calling this for postgame, but I think there's a higher-than-average chance of MoI and E&A being scumbuddies. In which case we probably lost, but oh well

Huh … so you’ve so easily identified us as possible partners and thus the game is lost? How do you go from point A to point B there Infinity?

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All this RC and FA stuff is exhausting.

What is exhausting is posts like this which are 100% fluff. If you are going to post as limited as you are floating then Town Massive shouldn’t be wasting that limited posting on junk.

Same with 1085 – nothing useful in that at post at all.

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Plus you conveniently didn't mention this post which is a lot more detailed imo

Longer does not equal more detailed.

Your Flubber read is more “feels” fluff with a touch of terrible meta (Oh, he was Town in this one game also).

Your Leon read is predicated on scum-Leon not confirming flavor that the Town Wincon more or less assures is in the game. And I've already shown a direct TTH example of scum being informed a flavor character is in the game. So the logic is completly borked.

RS is based on “feels Town with Gin argument” and “fucking around” which is so NAI it isn’t funny.

Gin read is based on “genuine scumhunting” and “lines of questioning”. More fluffery that looks good but is empty.

The “gut” read on Cakez / Infinity is the definition of empty.

And you have no idea on anyone else. So a large posts with very generic, surface level reasons for easy Town reads. Which only differs from the small empty posts I quoted because it is large.

[eagerSnake]

All this RC and FA stuff is exhausting.

QFT

Town games:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8778079 (was a hydra but I was the main poster. this is the hydra blitz I was referencing earlier)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8598661 (also a hydra...and I was also the main poster)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8495081

Scum games:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8410999
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Let's play spot the noticeable differences in inf's town/scum style

[eagerSnake]

I'd say his posting here looks similar to Tit For Tat, where he was scum.

[Infinity 324]

@Infinity

- please elaborate specifically on why you think Sir Cakez and Aella are Town (or more specifically above the Null line).

Realize that I'm still on page 14 so my read is based off of mainly stuff up to there. Cakez's first post had a lot of points I agreed with for example leon's first post being scummy (although I townread leon after) and gin & spammers being town.

it clearly isn’t Town to say “Infinity came in and tried to derail from a wagon on his partner, let me move my vote from said wagon to someone else accomplishing exactly what I said was the motive”. In fact it should make hypo-Town RC more likely to keep voting the scum attempting to be diverted from.

ok, fair enough

Just calling this for postgame, but I think there's a higher-than-average chance of MoI and E&A being scumbuddies. In which case we probably lost, but oh well

Huh … so you’ve so easily identified us as possible partners and thus the game is lost? How do you go from point A to point B there Infinity?

Well you're both known for having very strong scumgames, so if you're both scum I find it unlikely town will win.

I'd say his posting here looks similar to Tit For Tat, where he was scum.

That's probably cause I'm replacing in

[Infinity 324]

Also not sure if this means anything to you MoI, but I find the type of shallowness you're talking about wrt aella pretty NAI. Tends to come from lazy town or lazy scum.

[Leonshade]

Oh hey so I'm a 1-shot role-cop too

Too many parallels for us both to be town?

Both are one-shot so it could go either way, D1 setup spec doesn't lead to results.

Bye FA your goodbye is getting me emotional.

[Infinity 324]

Nothing for p13

Spoiler: page 14

Uh Titus this is not Titusville, you don't decide who is dying. There's 13 of us here (16 if you consider hydras).

That's not Titus you're talking to his twin brother

- Vifam

Ooh sick burns

I've been trying to figure that out myself. He is very good at faking scumhunting and doesn't display the usual tells I look for. My current plan for figuring out the difference is being extra-critical and paranoid of him, to really test whether his reads are genuine.

Yeah I do the same thing. Pretty sure this is town.

VOTE: Spine

Townreading Gin

Huh. Was your scumread on Gin a reaction test, or did you simply change your mind?

@Not Mafia:

Please answer the above.

I changed my mind

huh

@n_m, why did you change your mind on gin early on?

[Infinity 324]

Leon, I like you new avatar! Is it a pokemon? I haven't played the new games.

[eagerSnake]

Infinity can you show me a few games where you replaced in as town please

[Leonshade]

Catching up is boring. Someone talk to me about something

{spammers, gin}
{leon, flubber}
{aella, massive, cakez}
---------null line-------
{lane, MoI, n_m}
{E&A now RC}

Could you sum up your Spammers read? (On phone since laptip is acting up, can't check your ISO).

[Leonshade]

So many pr claims! This game is a shit show lol. This day just needs to end. I'm still sketched by Leon, and him not doing any digging after the spyro claim. Didn't even bother to look to see if maybe spyro was ai. That doesn't seem like someone who is unsure about spyro's alignment.

Considering the amount of roles being thrown out, I have no idea if role cop is scum. I was leaning scum, until we had another one.

What do we have for role claims?

Gin-1 shot role cop neighbor
N_m- 1 shot role cop neighbor
E&a - friendly neighbor *psyche* messenger
Eager - spyro vig
Leon - something that tells him spyro is in the game

Can someone complete if I missed anything?

The game was advertised as role madness, there are very few roles that are AI here. Role cop is not one of the exceptions.

[Leonshade]

Leon, I like you new avatar! Is it a pokemon? I haven't played the new games.

Thanks! It's "Nebby" AKA Cosmog from Pokemon Sun & Moon, one of my favorites from the new games.

[lane0168]

Ah yes, Role madness. I must've forgot. That would explain my baller role.

[Infinity 324]

Infinity can you show me a few games where you replaced in as town please

My last town replace-ins were a while ago (and I probably didn't do the spoiler-for-each page thing which I assume is what you noticed in tit for tat) but sure.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=66713
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=66474
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66931

Could you sum up your Spammers read? (On phone since laptip is acting up, can't check your ISO).

One of my favorite towntells is when someone appears to be posting what comes to their mind without filtering it. Spammers appear to be very much that way, without trying too hard to look like it.