Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Heartless]

Hi guys!
Anti and I finally got our shit together and had a real conversation about this game.

We are in agreement that Nero Cain, Drunken Piper, Infinity, and AJ are all likely town.
I'm not exactly sure if I can trust mastina. However, Antihero specifically he asked me to have faith in his mastina read so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
I am not affording him the same trust on the Titus read because I think he gives her too much benefit of the doubt and gives in to AtE rather easily. I haven't seen any reason to think she's town yet and her zefiend defense is mildly concerning to me.

Antihero holds fast to his BBMolla townread based on setup speculation and I know that's his forte so I'm trying not to second guess it too much. But I see some major red flags in Molla's play. The most recent:

sircakez the honest truth is I am beyond terrible at mafia now. I am the worst player I've ever seen.

the only fact I know is I'm town and I don't particularly think you are so your lynch is better than mine.

I don't know about anybody else, but if scum were scared enough of me to vanillaize me on Night 1 I would feel fucking fantastic. I would think someone vanillaized would be emboldened to push their reads even

more

but Molla's slinking around like a dog in a thunderstorm. I don't get it. The attitude doesn't make sense to me.

Antihero has a townread on TWIE, citing the one interaction with Pine in the Post 1565 region. He's enigmatic and null to me but Anti's instincts are good enough that I'll just go with that for now.

Peregrine troubles me. LUV was already a troublesome slot for me and PV himself has yet to post something cogent or convincingly town. In particular, his read on the Aero slot bothers me:

With aero, it's partly that he caught up and then disappeared, partly zefiend's catchup which I find very scummy, and partly trusting mastin.

He was replaced, so there is that.
I totally think Mastina is scum.
Aero's Pine interactions don't look like scum with scum. Aero should be neutral or hostile, not questioning or friendly. (1075-1076-1118-1119)

If you follow all the links provided, the interactions look pretty damn neutral to me. I suppose you could say the banter about mastina's RVS reads in 1118 and 1119 could be "friendly" if you tilt your head and look at it in just the right lighting, but it's a thready argument. There are other posts here and there that give me the heebie-jeebies but the zefiend defense is probably the most unsettling thing for me.

I'm tired so I'm stopping now. Zefiend and SirCakez tomorrow.

-TTH

[Titus]

Hey guys, I'm going to state the obvious with two days remaining.

If you're town

GET YOUR ASS IN HERE!

K thanks. I'm pretty sure Cakey is a scumfuck here given his wagons on Day 1 and Day 2, but we cannot let this go to a no lynch.

[BBmolla]

I don't know about anybody else, but if scum were scared enough of me to vanillaize me on Night 1 I would feel fucking fantastic. I would think someone vanillaized would be emboldened to push their reads even more but Molla's slinking around like a dog in a thunderstorm. I don't get it. The attitude doesn't make sense to me.

I've assumed it was based off of some sort of PR read or Pine having played with me and thinking I'd cop him or some shit

[BBmolla]

why would being vanillaized make me feel confident

[ɀefiend]

VOTE: SirCakez
Let's get this done

[Drunken Piper]

will hammer if needed.
though against this lynch, so I must be conceded.

[Infinity 324]

Piper, the cakez/titus thing was that they've had scumreads on each other since early d1 and they didn't interact very much. I find that usually there's one scum in those cases trying to have a scumread just to have a scumread, whereas town would try to push a lynch or try to find out if their scumread was correct. It's hard to tell which is which though, in this case and in general. The reason why I don't say SvS for sure is because it takes 2 people for extended interaction.

[Infinity 324]

I think cakez could be doing a last-ditch effort to appear town in these last couple pages. I'm not 100% on this lynch but I think it's a pretty good one.

I would've expected town!cakez to be more frustrated with my lazy vote on him.

[Infinity 324]

Cakez is at L-2. Let's just lynch him.

[Heartless]

I'm at about the same place.
VOTE: SirCakez

I'm OK with this given how Anti's conversations with SirCakez have gone. The quality of his scumreads are bad and he keeps propping up obviously rickety premises when challenged. The last second shots at Anti don't do much for me either.

[Nero Cain]

intent to hammer

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 3.14

Titus [1] Drunken Piper
BBmolla [1] Mastina
Mastina [1] Nero Cain
SirCakez [6] PeregrineV, Titus, Infinity 324, Aj The Epic, Zefiend, Heartless
defined [2] SirCakez, BBMolla,


Not Voting - [1] TheWayItEnds

With 12 Alive, It Takes 7 To Lynch.

Rogue Leader Vote:

Infinity 324 (1) Aj The Epic
Drunken Piper (4) Sircakez, PeregrineV, Titus, Nero Cain

Mod Notes - May the flavor be with you.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2017-02-13 05:26:20)!

[Firebringer]

mastina and TheWayItEnds has been prodded.

[Heartless]

somebody plz hammer tia

[Titus]

Hi guys!
Anti and I finally got our shit together and had a real conversation about this game.

We are in agreement that Nero Cain, Drunken Piper, Infinity, and AJ are all likely town.
I'm not exactly sure if I can trust mastina. However, Antihero specifically he asked me to have faith in his mastina read so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
I am not affording him the same trust on the Titus read because I think he gives her too much benefit of the doubt and gives in to AtE rather easily. I haven't seen any reason to think she's town yet and her zefiend defense is mildly concerning to me.

Antihero holds fast to his BBMolla townread based on setup speculation and I know that's his forte so I'm trying not to second guess it too much. But I see some major red flags in Molla's play. The most recent:

sircakez the honest truth is I am beyond terrible at mafia now. I am the worst player I've ever seen.

the only fact I know is I'm town and I don't particularly think you are so your lynch is better than mine.

I don't know about anybody else, but if scum were scared enough of me to vanillaize me on Night 1 I would feel fucking fantastic. I would think someone vanillaized would be emboldened to push their reads even

more

but Molla's slinking around like a dog in a thunderstorm. I don't get it. The attitude doesn't make sense to me.

Antihero has a townread on TWIE, citing the one interaction with Pine in the Post 1565 region. He's enigmatic and null to me but Anti's instincts are good enough that I'll just go with that for now.

Peregrine troubles me. LUV was already a troublesome slot for me and PV himself has yet to post something cogent or convincingly town. In particular, his read on the Aero slot bothers me:

With aero, it's partly that he caught up and then disappeared, partly zefiend's catchup which I find very scummy, and partly trusting mastin.

He was replaced, so there is that.
I totally think Mastina is scum.
Aero's Pine interactions don't look like scum with scum. Aero should be neutral or hostile, not questioning or friendly. (1075-1076-1118-1119)

If you follow all the links provided, the interactions look pretty damn neutral to me. I suppose you could say the banter about mastina's RVS reads in 1118 and 1119 could be "friendly" if you tilt your head and look at it in just the right lighting, but it's a thready argument. There are other posts here and there that give me the heebie-jeebies but the zefiend defense is probably the most unsettling thing for me.

I'm tired so I'm stopping now. Zefiend and SirCakez tomorrow.

-TTH

To be honest, if the only reason he townreads me is AtE, he shouldn't. I cannot fake emotion, but that doesn't mean anything. It's my common gripe I have about "it's so genuine", so what. Scum can get frustrated too.

Just use a ship cop on me or something.

[Nero Cain]

Piper, the cakez/titus thing was that they've had scumreads on each other since early d1 and they didn't interact very much.

this isn't true btw. Titus was calling Cakez "bad town" while I was pushing Cakez.

[Titus]

Piper, the cakez/titus thing was that they've had scumreads on each other since early d1 and they didn't interact very much.

this isn't true btw. Titus was calling Cakez "bad town" while I was pushing Cakez.

Both not true. I waffled hard on Cakez. I settled on bad town I think but I was pretty unsure.

[Nero Cain]

could you be a peach and show me your d1 posts where you mentioned suspecting him b/c I really don't remember that.

[Titus]

Good point.
I would like to see her address my accusation of her.

I'd like to see an accusation that can be addressed. I don't smoke weed provided by "the fates", so...

Good point.

You've played with her and you didn't know that?

I forgot, I haven't played with her in a while.

@Titus

go on...

Well these spirits, they told me that Titus was trying too hard too early and that she was scum trying to build early towncred. I'm just following what they said.

Hope you get better soon Aero

Yeah, I don't smoke the weed your spirits do. Trying to hard is not scummy in any way shape or form.

If your spirits are not on weed, they are absolutely on scum.

How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?

There is no such thing as trying to hard. I'm always full tilt. You should know this by now. You also don't seem to be reassessing this claim in light of other conversations going on. I did quote and explain how I caught scum by post 30 before, and went too hard. I was town there. I only come with Full Tilt or IRL. Why are you repeating what is said?

VCA is junk. Drop its and sheep me, Kids.

If I'm alive Day 3+ with a scum lynch not based on a guilty and you're alive, we make a bet. My VCA versus your reading the thread. First one to be wrong sheeps the other.

I don't think you are really understanding my argument or I'm not explaining it well but in the grand scheme of thngs it doesn't matter. What does matter is that Cakez is a stormtrooper and should be ejected out of the nearest exhaust pipe.

Why is he scum instead of just annoying me by not listening to what I say?

[Titus]

Like the first few posts just control F Cake

[Nero Cain]

vote:Cakez

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 3.15 Final

Titus [1] Drunken Piper
BBmolla [1] Mastina

SirCakez [LYNCH] PeregrineV, Titus, Infinity 324, Aj The Epic, Zefiend, Heartless, Nero Cain

zefiend [2] SirCakez, BBMolla,


Not Voting - [1] TheWayItEnds

With 12 Alive, It Takes 7 To Lynch.

Rogue Leader Vote:

Infinity 324 (1) Aj The Epic
Drunken Piper (4) Sircakez, PeregrineV, Titus, Nero Cain

Mod Notes - May the flavor be with you.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2017-02-13 05:26:20)!

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: SirCakez Role PM

Welcome! You are

R2-D2

, a Droid

Vanilla Townie

.

You are aligned with the

Rebel Alliance

.

A astromech droid serving with the Rebel Alliance who eventually will hold the plans to the Death Star.

Abilities:

Vote - You can vote during the day.[/center]

Character Special Ability

system override

:
Disable someone from using an event action for a day/night
Message mod to select your target.
They will be informed that they cannot perform their special ability.
Can only be used once.[/center]

Win Condition:
You win when the Empire has been eliminated.

He Left No Last Will

[Firebringer]

Heartless Is the Rogue Leader.
They have 24 hours to pick their crew.

[Firebringer]

Night 3 Ends In (expired on 2017-02-14 00:26:20)