Can we have rule on "political slur"?

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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:15 am

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You lashed out with intent to insult using content that was not related to the game in any way.

It doesn't matter what the content
was
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It matters what it
wasn't
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Hence my complaint that it was ogi.

OGI = outside game influence
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:19 am

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Calling me an idiot for having shit reads, I find acceptable personally.

Making inferences about my intellect based on things that have no relevance whatsoever to the game is not.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:22 am

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In post 4, Realeo wrote:If everything that is outside the game is outside the game, then using Youtube video or meme would be an OGI.
If YouTube videos and memes are being used to degrade, it's certainly actionable.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:40 am

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Here's a good rule of thumb: If it's not part of the game, leave it out of the game.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:02 am

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Or, I can just avoid you.

Seems a better option.

Bye.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #5) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:37 pm

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In post 22, Psyche wrote:i cant understand what this thread is about
OP was being a flaming douchebag in a way that had absolutely nothing to do with the game and instead of having a modicum of decency and apologizing, decided to split hairs on how his douchebaggery was somehow OK because I *gasp* didn't use 100% accurate wording.

None of this shit changes the fact that Realeo violated the game rules. He can illustrate his stupidity in this thread for the next millennia, for all I care.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:39 am

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^ see what the fuck I mean?
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Post Post #27 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:46 am

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In post 1517, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1, Keybladewielder wrote:22) Don't be a prick.
Realeo, all your hairsplitting doesn't mean shit because you can't escape the fact you broke the shit out of this rule.

Stay the fuck away from me kthx.
There's your precious rule, Realeo.

Since you can't manage to be a decent human being without someone spelling out what decency is, I'll even break it down more than that:

Making unfounded assumptions about people's meatworld life to use to insult them in a game falls under the "don't be a dick" rule.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:48 am

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And even kuribo can't argue THAT.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:01 am

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You weren't INSULTING THE RECIPIENT in those role PM's.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:09 am

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In post 32, Realeo wrote:I WASN'T INSULTING YOU AT THAT GAME.
In post 1457, Realeo wrote:Yeah. Speak like a true Republican.
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CALL THIS?

I CAN DO ALLCAPS TOO.
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inb4 we escalate to
HUGE BOLD UNDERLINED ALLCAPS


...oops
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Post Post #37 (isolation #12) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:20 am

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In post 36, Psyche wrote:you guys are adorable
I'm just waiting for Godwin to make an appearance.

With someone as politically motivated as Realeo, it's inevitable.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:27 am

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YOU BROUGHT CONTROVERSIAL MEATWORLD BULLSHIT INTO A NATURALLY CONTROVERSIAL GAME JUST TO ATTEMPT TO ONE-UP ME.

THAT FALLS UNDER "DON'T BE A DICK".

HOW WELL DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE RECEIVED IF I SAID "JUST LIKE A FUCKING CHRISTIAN" OUT OF THE BLUE AFTER SOMEBODY MENTIONED BELIEVING MURDER IS BAD?

YOU DON'T NEED EVERYTHING IN LIFE BROKEN DOWN INTO EXPLICIT RULES TO NOT BE A DICK.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:29 am

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Global warming is obviously a myth.

We still have winter, don't we?

/s
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Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:34 am

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You reached for meatworld controversy to win an argument on the interweb.

It's fucking sad.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:41 am

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We shouldn't NEED to spell out something as simple, and tedious, as all the obvious shit that is used by trolls everyday to inflame and incite others.

Politics
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Post Post #48 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:49 am

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In post 46, Accountant wrote:Curious: Grey, supposed someone with their location set as Texas, USA flipped Vigilante, and someone went "hah! Of course the Texan flips vig!" is that OGI?
Nice strawman.

If it only had a brain!
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In post 44, -Grey- wrote:You reached for meatworld controversy to win an argument on the interweb.

It's fucking sad.
In post 45, -Grey- wrote:We shouldn't NEED to spell out something as simple, and tedious, as all the obvious shit that is used by trolls everyday to inflame and incite others.

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You CAN'T FUCKING DEAL with the fact that I pointed out how your bullshit was overall indefensible despite my original clumsy writing, SO YOUR RETURN TO SPLITTING HAIRS ON OLD CONTENT THAT IS NO LONGER RELEVANT
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Post Post #52 (isolation #20) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:59 am

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In post 27, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1517, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1, Keybladewielder wrote:22) Don't be a prick.
Realeo, all your hairsplitting doesn't mean shit because you can't escape the fact you broke the shit out of this rule.

Stay the fuck away from me kthx.
There's your precious rule, Realeo.

Since you can't manage to be a decent human being without someone spelling out what decency is, I'll even break it down more than that:

Making unfounded assumptions about people's meatworld life to use to insult them in a game falls under the "don't be a dick" rule.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #21) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:10 am

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In post 53, Accountant wrote:
In post 48, -Grey- wrote:
In post 46, Accountant wrote:Curious: Grey, supposed someone with their location set as Texas, USA flipped Vigilante, and someone went "hah! Of course the Texan flips vig!" is that OGI?
Nice strawman.

If it only had a brain!
>tfw legitimately trying to understand your pov without making any point geared towards one side or another and gets called a strawman
A) There is a difference between a tongue in cheek remark and hateful bile.
B) Texans on the whole tend to be proud of their firearms, which shows broad generalizations are not limited to hate-mongering.
C) I can't count to potato anymore, so I have to use letters now.
J) It still feels like hair-splitting because not being a flaming douchebag towards others isn't a concept that should have to be rigorously defended.
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In post 49, -Grey- wrote:
In post 44, -Grey- wrote:You reached for meatworld controversy to win an argument on the interweb.

It's fucking sad.
In post 45, -Grey- wrote:We shouldn't NEED to spell out something as simple, and tedious, as all the obvious shit that is used by trolls everyday to inflame and incite others.

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In post 54, -Grey- wrote:not being a flaming douchebag towards others isn't a concept that should have to be rigorously defended.
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In post 1457, Realeo wrote:Yeah. Speak like a true Republican.
In post 1458, Realeo wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing you say is "Global warming is BS because politicians are twisting the shit out of what actually happened to spin a narrative."
THAT IS INDEFENSIBLE.
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In post 56, -Grey- wrote:
In post 49, -Grey- wrote:
In post 44, -Grey- wrote:You reached for meatworld controversy to win an argument on the interweb.

It's fucking sad.
In post 45, -Grey- wrote:We shouldn't NEED to spell out something as simple, and tedious, as all the obvious shit that is used by trolls everyday to inflame and incite others.

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Courtesy would have been to apologize.

Courtesy would have been to resolve the matter privately.

You only sought validation. You care nothing about courtesy.
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In post 61, Infinity 324 wrote:Grey, I disagree that what realeo said is reportable or indefensible and just the fact that me and others disagree with you means it's ambiguous.
In post 62, Infinity 324 wrote:Clearly real didn't know where the line was but he wants to know. Dismissing that and insisting he should know is silly.
You sound like a Muslim, demonizing anyone you disagree with.

Next thing you know, you'll be calling me an infidel and blowing me up with a suicide vest.

(Since such bigotry is fair game, I'm sure you're not offended by this)
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Post Post #67 (isolation #28) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:41 am

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In post 66, Accountant wrote:
In post 65, -Grey- wrote:You sound like a Muslim, demonizing anyone you disagree with.

Next thing you know, you'll be calling me an infidel and blowing me up with a suicide vest.

(Since such bigotry is fair game, I'm sure you're not offended by this)
Not only does this violate your own rule about being a dick, it is also a strawman - Infinity clearly does not think bigotry is fair game, and any reasonable/good faith reading of their posts would support that.
Amazing how perspective changes opinions, isn't it?

Post 61, which you conveniently omitted, details why Infinity should have no problem with the text you did quote.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #29) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:51 am

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(I will say that I don't have any hate for Infinity - or Muslims. I'm just giving him an example of how it feels to be on the receiving end of such detritus)
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Post Post #70 (isolation #30) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:01 am

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Bite-sized chunks for you, then.

What Realeo said:
In post 59, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1457, Realeo wrote:Yeah. Speak like a true Republican.
In post 1458, Realeo wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing you say is "Global warming is BS because politicians are twisting the shit out of what actually happened to spin a narrative."
What Infinity said about what Realeo said:
In post 61, Infinity 324 wrote:Grey, I disagree that what realeo said is reportable or indefensible and just the fact that me and others disagree with you means it's ambiguous.
Excuse me, isn't deduction like, a central tenet to the game MafiaScum?

Why do you act like there's nothing to conclude from the fact Infinity has zero objections to Realeo's posts?
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Post Post #73 (isolation #31) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:12 am

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No, it's not.

Realeo made a bigoted generalization.
I made a bigoted generalization.
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I love how you keep ignoring 1458 and only refer to 1457 as your example, btw.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #33) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:15 am

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In post 74, Accountant wrote:The generalizations are different in the level of loadedness and bigotry that they represent and the context is widlly different.
The only difference in context is the recipient.

Negative remarks and blind assumptions about a person's politics are just as offensive as negative remarks and blind assumptions about their religion.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #34) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:16 am

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In post 76, Infinity 324 wrote:PEdit: what accountant said in 74
What I said in 77.
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In post 79, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 77, -Grey- wrote:Negative remarks and blind assumptions about a person's politics are just as offensive as negative remarks and blind assumptions about their religion.
I disagree here. I generally find "political discrimination" doesn't tend to offend people as much because it's usually less central to a person's identity than race or religion.

Not only that, "your logic is bad" =///= "you're a terrorist"
Given the zealotry in politics, you cannot honestly believe this to be true.

Why was Abraham Lincoln killed, again?

Martin Luther King, Jr... why was he assassinated?

Ronald Reagan, why was he shot? JFK?

Oh fuck it, just read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... oliticians

Don't tell me people don't take politics as serious as religion.
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Not worse at all, Realeo was being just as dickish about Republicans.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #37) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:39 am

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In post 87, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 83, -Grey- wrote:
In post 79, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 77, -Grey- wrote:Negative remarks and blind assumptions about a person's politics are just as offensive as negative remarks and blind assumptions about their religion.
I disagree here. I generally find "political discrimination" doesn't tend to offend people as much because it's usually less central to a person's identity than race or religion.

Not only that, "your logic is bad" =///= "you're a terrorist"
Given the zealotry in politics, you cannot honestly believe this to be true.

Why was Abraham Lincoln killed, again?

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Ronald Reagan, why was he shot? JFK?

Oh fuck it, just read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... oliticians

Don't tell me people don't take politics as serious as religion.
Not what I meant

I wouldn't be as personally insulted if you insulted my politics as if you insulted my race. My race is more central to me and is literally part of me, whereas my politics is just one set of opinions I have. Of course politics is very divisive but it's less personal than race or religion.
Not everything is about you!

You don't look at a statement and say, "well it doesn't offend me personally so nobody else has a right to be offended by it".

That's not how the world works.
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In post 89, Infinity 324 wrote:Do you find things that are physically part of you less personal to you than your opinions? If so, ok but that's not how most people work.
Beliefs can be just as integral to a person's identity as their physical construct.

What you are born with, you cannot choose and thus have no control over and no point of pride in.

What you
support
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Everyone who has ever martyred themselves (religion) or dived on a grenade (military) or otherwise sacrificed themselves placed their beliefs above their physical being.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #40) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:55 am

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Catch up or shut the fuck up kuribo.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #41) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:57 am

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In post 51, -Grey- wrote:You CAN'T FUCKING DEAL with the fact that I pointed out how your bullshit was overall indefensible despite my original clumsy writing, SO YOUR RETURN TO SPLITTING HAIRS ON OLD CONTENT THAT IS NO LONGER RELEVANT
In post 57, -Grey- wrote:
In post 54, -Grey- wrote:not being a flaming douchebag towards others isn't a concept that should have to be rigorously defended.
In post 64, -Grey- wrote:Courtesy would have been to apologize.

Courtesy would have been to resolve the matter privately.

You only sought validation. You care nothing about courtesy.
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In post 100, kuribo wrote:Why do you expect an apology from someone who isn't sorry?
That's precisely my point about why him starting this topic was just mental masturbation
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I have no incentive to treat someone better than they treat me.
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As long as you recognize your hypocrisy, can't ask more than that.
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I have no beef with kuribo. Just speaking his native tongue.
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In post 112, kuribo wrote:I do find it personally irresponsible when people abuse the report system.
You misunderstood my actions

I didn't use
the report system
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the game moderator
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Edit: because stuff.
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In post 118, Psyche wrote:nvm u guys are annoying
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In post 120, kuribo wrote:I think the thing that pissed me off most that a player said in a game was "I can see why your wife left you." This was about a month after my separation and I legit believe I'd have beaten the piss out of that guy had we been in person.
Another pristine example of why things that have no bearing to the game should be left the fuck out of it.

That was a really shit thing to say and I hope he {redacted} of {redacted} IRL.
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In post 122, kuribo wrote:
In post 121, -Grey- wrote:Another pristine example of why things that have no bearing to the game should be left the fuck out of it.

That was a really shit thing to say and I hope he {redacted} of {redacted} IRL.
It's a dick thing to say, but again, it's not the point of the out-of-game-influence rule.


And no, he didn't. Fuck that guy.
Catch up, will ya? The ogi shit was dropped way back on page two.

Dude still broke the "don't be a dick" rule.

... And yeah. Fuck that guy.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:12 am

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Wouldn't be a terrible idea tbh.
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inb4lock
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