League of Legends: The New Thread

[JasonWazza]

I mean it just shows that the riot balance team doesn't know what they are doing.

Actually a lot of balance changes show that.

If they ever actually took feedback from players who actually play the PBE that would be great.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I, for one, hate the "traditional" supports. Such cockblockers and they help players (especially adcs) continue to be bad players and not pay attention to positioning or laning. No other lane gets a special treatment of heals and shields and exhausts.

[Cabd]

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en ... mment=0007

^Link for above claim of riot doing a support soon/next

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Lol you already know the "support" is gonna either be broken in all other 4 positions and then gets nerfed over next few patches or gonna be total garbage like on release bard.

[Cabd]

Reddit's best idea so far: Support's ultimate is Karthus ulti but supresison instead. Because why not.

[animorpherv1]

Ok but Wazza there's been just as many times where reddot's been wrong. You act like you've never heard of the "reddit knows balance" meme. Do you remember the patch where they buffed rylai's, liandries, and spellvamp? The entirety of pbe and reddot were calling for rumble and vlad nerfs because they'd be mega op. Turns out their winrates lowered accross the board. Lets not forget that people thought Kindred was garbage on release and went straight into a meta dominant position a month later without buffs.

[Cabd]

There's at least two stories where they posted a nerf or buff in the patch notes; but forgot to apply the code, and the complaints on reddit were intense. "Vlad feels like shit now" etc etc

[MTD]

I mean, chances are they do listen to people, probably even to people on the PBE.
Just not the same people you listen to.

[Randomnamechange]

You do realize Malz has as much CC as Braum does, right? Plus he can still eat skillshots for you due to his passive.

the issue is that isn't how people in solo queue play him. and braum's job is different.

I mean, chances are they do listen to people, probably even to people on the PBE.
Just not the same people you listen to.

this. look at how they handled the cho changes - they thought they were too radical to put on the PBE so they held back until they refined it. if they didn't care they would have put it out anyway

[Psyche]

A lot of redditors (Ivern mains!) thought the recent Ivern nerfs would cripple him but he still basically the strongest solo queue jungler.

[animorpherv1]

the issue is that isn't how people in solo queue play him.

You mean like a mage that has a good lane pjase vs. other supports?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

A lot of redditors (Ivern mains!) thought the recent Ivern nerfs would cripple him but he still basically the strongest solo queue jungler.

It really depends on what elo.

In high elo, like anything diamond above, Ivern probably top 3 jungler still, even though I barely seem him anymore.

In anything lower than plat you're better off playing literally any other jungler.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

But honestly there's some champions that I never ever see in mid diamond.

Couple of days ago I played a normal and someone picked Voli and was like holy moly that champion exists.

[Psyche]

A lot of redditors (Ivern mains!) thought the recent Ivern nerfs would cripple him but he still basically the strongest solo queue jungler.

It really depends on what elo.

In high elo, like anything diamond above, Ivern probably top 3 jungler still, even though I barely seem him anymore.

In anything lower than plat you're better off playing literally any other jungler.

i think you're wrong, but of course low elo statistics are sparse

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

You can just go to op.gg and see the data for yourself.

Ivern's winrate increases with elo. 45% winrate in bronze, 56% winrate in diamond, over the last month.

[Psyche]

where is this on op.gg? i thought they only did plat+

[Psyche]

ahh the statistics tab

[Psyche]

how strange
i find ivern quite easy
i guess initially he was pretty difficult, but then again he also needed a buff initially

[Cabd]

You can't take the bronze "imma carry" mentality into Ivern. You'll die. A lot. Ivern plays very differently than most every other pick. You're basically playing a second support.

[Psyche]

Sure, but you'd think Ivern players would learn that by the time they feel comfortable enough to bring him ranked.

[Cabd]

Lolnope.

Also, the other 4 players have to play differently as well.

[Ankamius]

Uninstalled. Bye again

[Cabd]

See you in a few months.

[Ankamius]

The sad part is that will probably happen.

[Psyche]

i uninstall every day