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Post Post #5890 (isolation #600) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:32 am

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drealm is resorting to being snarky, I see.

5884 was in response to 5883 after 5883 did not suffice to explain my heart.
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Post Post #5892 (isolation #601) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:37 am

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In post 5891, gerryoat wrote:how is the person who tr both mafia your top tr?
Must I explain this again?
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Post Post #5895 (isolation #602) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:45 am

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In post 5660, Andrius wrote:
In post 5657, Pine wrote:D1/early D2 I had Maria, but she's looking more confused and gamesolve-y lately
Like, this works.
But I prefer my heart-based read.
Because that woman wants to crush my heart into a million pieces and this isn't that game.
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In post 5631, Pine wrote:Close. I find Nacho/Drealmerz/{Maria or Nos} more likely.
Nos.

Maria as scum would be ELATED this game because she's scum and I'm town.
This is ULTIMATE REVENGE BREAK ANDY'S HEART game.

But its not.
I mean, I'm not about to go back and read major portions of this game but FROM WHAT I REMEMBER of the game, Maria wasn't scumreading Creature significantly, and wasn't scumreading Nacho significantly. Scumread Sly. She did little to stop either the Creature/Nacho wagons (we're ignoring the D3 Nacho wagon because it was largely Gunsmith-driven.)

drealmerz, meanwhile, almost certainly scumread Nacho D2 but didn't push him. Walked into D3 (again this is IIRC) wanting me dead after a Sly flip but didn't join the Nacho wagon. Heck, he's voting GERRY today. I think drealmerz said enough about Nacho to look like he suspected Nacho without actually being part of the wagon while he sat on Sly HOPING for either a deadline lynch of Sly or a whimsical lynch anywhere else. I think that makes sense with what happened.

Nos was largely missing D2 from what I remember. Or at least, largely uninfluencial.

Gerry just screams against anyone calling him scum because he thinks he had a major hand in Creature/Nacho deaths.
I can see him as either alignment, and at this point nothing would surprise me coming from that slot.
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Post Post #5899 (isolation #603) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:49 am

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I buy the giving-a-bulletproof-vest claim.
3/4 of the Moderation Team (including Reviewers) were in THE THING MAFIA so having a passable bulletproof vest makes sense because even I was like THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.

I can see it being scum, however, more in a CREATE YOUR OWN GODFATHER sort of way but apparently there aren't any killing roles besides the mafia so whatever.

We KNOW that there's only one mafia faction and there's likely not a SK judging by the lack of kills.
So I'm guessing town killing power at this juncture.
I'm going to further conclude that a 2-shot Bulletproof (WHY TWO) makes more sense coming from town as there's little indication of any other killing role present besides the claimed failed shot on SAD the other night, so a 2-shot makes little sense as a scum power since 2-shot vest to counter a limited-shot vig is ridiculous.

FB could probably move up a slot in Ye Olde Reads List.
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Post Post #5900 (isolation #604) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:50 am

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In post 5898, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 5895, Andrius wrote:
drealmerz, meanwhile, almost certainly scumread Nacho D2 but didn't push him. Walked into D3 (again this is IIRC) wanting me dead after a Sly flip but didn't join the Nacho wagon. Heck, he's voting GERRY today. I think drealmerz said enough about Nacho to look like he suspected Nacho without actually being part of the wagon while he sat on Sly HOPING for either a deadline lynch of Sly or a whimsical lynch anywhere else. I think that makes sense with what happened.
please actually quote the posts that make you come to these thoughts, otherwise it just looks to me like you're pulling it out of your ass

and no, I wasn't SRing nacho on D2 (again, quote where you got this from so I know wtf you're talking about and we can communicate and reach clarity)
You're asking me to go back and read this slog of a game for a few specific quotes?
I can't even get you to read and respond to "cases" on you a page ago, let alone A HUNDRED PAGES AGO.
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Post Post #5905 (isolation #605) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:54 am

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Ok.
I EFFORTED and went into your ISO and apparently you said Nacho's name less times than there were dwarves in The Hobbit.

pedit: No, I'm not. I'm trying to remember this slog of a game and apparently I remember you doing more than you actually did. Because all I remember of you D2 was:
1) voting Sly
2) hitting the bong
3) defending Zach
4) arms-length interactions with nachoscum

And apparently you didn't really interact with Nacho.
So there goes that.
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Post Post #5908 (isolation #606) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:56 am

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In post 5904, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Unless it is and Firebringer is going for the long con giving me BP and outting Nacho, but that's very detrimental to scum and I don't really see it at all.
Precisely.
The [You, FB] is not out of the question, however.
You guys throw dead-weight Nacho out the window for massive towncred, praying the town vig doesn't try anything on two vaguely-claimed PRs while a mess of lurkers run around.
Namely since you know I'm not a vig.
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Post Post #5912 (isolation #607) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:58 am

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In post 5907, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 5905, Andrius wrote:Ok.
I EFFORTED and went into your ISO and apparently you said Nacho's name less times than there were dwarves in The Hobbit.

pedit: No, I'm not. I'm trying to remember this slog of a game and apparently I remember you doing more than you actually did. Because all I remember of you D2 was:
1) voting Sly
2) hitting the bong
3) defending Zach
4) arms-length interactions with nachoscum

And apparently you didn't really interact with Nacho.
So there goes that.
heyyy, great! reality instead of contrivance!! wowowwww!!!
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Post Post #5913 (isolation #608) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:59 am

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In post 5909, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Yeah the reason I feel weird from dreamz's POV interaction with nacho is that in the recent finished Fate game (mystic mafia) dreamz was ALL ON TOP of Nacho (they were both town), while here he has been largerly ignoring him, which is extremely weird.
Arms-length interaction.
The only time I remember seeing him talk to Nacho in his ISO was drealmer defending Zach from Nacho's YOUR NOT ALIVE UNLESS IT PERTAINS TO YOU.
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Post Post #5916 (isolation #609) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:05 am

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In post 5914, drealmerz7 wrote:each game is a different beast, if you're going to try and compare what I did somewhere else to what I'm doing in a current situation, all you're going to do is detrimental to town, if you're town, you shoudl care about that and stop, if you're scum, keep it up and keep exposing yourself
Are you one of the 'meta is garbage' people?
Because this sounds like meta is garbage.

Like, this game you remind me of what Nacho said about Zach.
There's no life in anything you do unless it involves yourself.
Sure, you're here. You're on the bong and talking about lynching some people.
But there's no fire in anything you do unless you're defending yourself from the big ol meanies [Pine, Andy, Sly, Desp].
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Post Post #5919 (isolation #610) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:15 am

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So here's my thing.
I think you're scum because you're not at all interested in lynching me.
I'm a scumread of yours, as you've been saying since D1, but you're completely disinterested in voting me, getting a wagon on me going, interacting with other people to try and drum up a lynch mob to kill me.
I've been TRYING to interact with you and goad you into SOMETHING but you're completely unphased.
Which is a big reason why I think you're scum - you're not interested in killing me, you're only interested in calling me scum. Which makes me wonder WHY.

Like, I'm at the point where I believe if you had a GLADIATE action you wouldn't use it on me.
A Daykill, sure.
But you wouldn't risk yourself to lynch me which goes against everything I know about FEROCIOUS drealmers when he smells blood in the water.
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Post Post #5920 (isolation #611) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:16 am

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You've also called Maria scum a few times and seem uninterested in lynching her either.
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Post Post #5926 (isolation #612) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:30 am

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In post 5924, drealmerz7 wrote:you can't read my brainthoughts
No, but I can read the thread and you indicate a low level of interest in lynching me.
Let alone any EFFORT to actually see it happen.
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Post Post #5928 (isolation #613) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:30 am

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In post 5923, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Seriously gerry + dreamz's attitude of "I don't give a fuck about the game lololol" "Oh holy you're gonna lynch me you're all fucking stupid how can people be this bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Yeah okay.
P. much.
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Post Post #5931 (isolation #614) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:34 am

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In post 5929, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 5927, Zachstralkita wrote:He doesn't give a fuck about [expending effort] when it's not toward something he's lynched, which is bad if he's wrong on a read

I haven't seen scum drealmerz.. if I'm not mistaken he's been town in all the games I've completed with him and he's acted exactly like the reasons he is being lynched for

It's not scum behavior imo
I can't take your posts seriously anymore. You just derail every wagon and the one wagon where you pushed (slysly) was town.

"Trust me dreamz is 100% town" "I haven't ever seen him as scum but trust me!".
I'm with you, I just don't have words for Zach that aren't snarky.
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Post Post #5932 (isolation #615) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:35 am

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SAD can we form a voting bloc yet?
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Post Post #5940 (isolation #616) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:45 am

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6/11 to lynch today.

I approve of this bloc.
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Post Post #5943 (isolation #617) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:46 am

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In post 5939, Pine wrote:PEdit: I am tentatively interested in that voting bloc. I'm not 100% on everyone in it, but I'm at least 75% on all of them.
Remember: TOWN BLOCs and VOTING BLOCs are different beasts.
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Post Post #5946 (isolation #618) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:48 am

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Blocs are great, and you're only mad because you're going to get lynched.
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Post Post #5949 (isolation #619) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:50 am

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My Dearest Cleric Pine,

You, SAD, and I have all stated issues with drealmerz. And you just said you're not 100% on him. Why can't we just lynch dreal since we all already agree there?

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Post Post #5951 (isolation #620) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:51 am

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In post 5949, Andrius wrote:And you just said you're not 100% on him.
"Him" here being Nos.*

I am bad at words.
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Post Post #5953 (isolation #621) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:52 am

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In post 5950, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 5947, Pine wrote: PEdit: lol, drealmerz just tripping over himself to discredit anyone now. Dude, the vote isn't even on you right now. We're on Nos.
you see these words??? YOU NEED TO PROVIDE A POST AND DESCRIBE HOW YOU CAME TO THE THOUGHTS

THIS IS HOW YOU PLAY MAFIA, PINE, GET WITH IT, OR GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME
I think this provides adequate defense of my earlier statement that you are only alive when your life is on the line.
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Post Post #5959 (isolation #622) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:57 am

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I, uh, don't care what you think regarding how you think we should be playing in terms of theory/policy and YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS WITH POST NUMBERS AND MASSIVE ARGUMENTS. You're scum flailing, and we're organizing your lynch.
If you want to have massive walls and long discussions maybe you should play games with vollkan and Magna.

Instead of the IMPULSIVE BAND OF STRAHDIANS you know we are.
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Post Post #5961 (isolation #623) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:58 am

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In post 5956, drealmerz7 wrote:it's complete scum-tactics

pick and choose what suits you painting your narrative

blatantly obvious scum-tactics

UNVOTE: gerryoat
VOTE ME
DO IT
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Post Post #5963 (isolation #624) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:59 am

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In post 5957, Pine wrote:
Andrius wrote:My Dearest Cleric Pine,

You, SAD, and I have all stated issues with drealmerz. And you just said you're not 100% on him. Why can't we just lynch dreal since we all already agree there?

Yours in Service to The Light,

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I'm good with either. I changed gears into hunting the remaining scum because the drealmerz wagon was stalled. My old SR on Maria has transitioned into a TR, so there's certainly more to hunt than just drealmerz. Hell, we wouldn't have gotten that horribad reaction out of Zach if I hadn't gone hunting.

{drealmerz, Nos} would lynch either of these today. Need to assess more evidence of Zach, but moving rapidly toward an SR of him.
Its not stalled.
We are merely organizing the tail end of the wagon since all the early movers are already here (SAD, myself).
I'm with you on finding the rest of them; I'm just saying when the time comes I'm thinking drealm first.
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Post Post #5968 (isolation #625) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 5962, Pine wrote:Actually, I tend to be the walling and long discussion type, Andy. You bring out the Strahdian in me.
It takes more than one Strahdian to form a party.
We can all wear the cape.
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Post Post #5971 (isolation #626) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:03 am

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In post 5965, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:My lynch preferences in order:

Gerry
Nos
Dreamz
Mcmenno
Zach

I wouldn't put it past Nacho to have been coaching Gerry day 1, esp with the way their interaction went down.
1) Gerry doesn't seem like the type of guy to take coaching, especially since he's 1) not new to mafia 2) clearly demonstrated a lack of working-together-ness in terms of his role when questioned by Tammy D1
2) Nacho doesn't seem like he had a ton of time/investment in this game and coaching D1 requires WORK and EFFORT which he was clearly lacking

I'm not saying it couldn't have happened I just don't think this is what went down.
Nacho devotes his in-thread time to diffusing the Tammy/Andy situation and spends his time in-PT coaching Gerry?
When he's not really up-and-current on the game?
I don't see it.
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Post Post #5982 (isolation #627) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:07 am

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The fact that dreal and Zach are pressuring bloc members makes me so happy.
We're gonna have a good time.

[Nos, drealm, Zach] is an acceptable bracket IMO.
drealm > Zack > Nos for me.
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Post Post #5984 (isolation #628) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:07 am

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In post 5981, drealmerz7 wrote:am out until someone who actually knows how to play wants to engage me
Yeah he's mad he's getting lynched.
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Post Post #5988 (isolation #629) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:10 am

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In post 5987, drealmerz7 wrote:"I like to be annoying because I think it's funny!!! mahahahahahaha I have no idea how to play in a cooperative team-based game, so I act like a jerk lololololololol"
Clearly I do since I won The Thing. :P
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Post Post #5989 (isolation #630) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:10 am

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In post 5986, Desperado wrote:And if there are only four scum I bet they're both still on that Sly wagon
Yet another reason to lynch drealm.
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Post Post #6011 (isolation #631) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:23 am

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Spoiler: FOR Maria, Fire, Desperado
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Post Post #6013 (isolation #632) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:24 am

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In post 6000, Desperado wrote:
In post 5981, drealmerz7 wrote:am out until someone who actually knows how to play wants to engage me
why the fuck would anyone want to engage you?

you spend all of your time telling everyone else how fucking shit they are at this game
This.
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Post Post #6014 (isolation #633) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:25 am

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I mean I've been engaging you in the hopes of actually getting you do be ALIVE besides defending your own lynch.
But that hasn't happened at all.
So now I'm campaigning full-stop to get you dead.
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Post Post #6015 (isolation #634) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 6010, Desperado wrote:like the people on that shitty slysly wagon you ended up on
You make it sound like drealm didn't want to be there.
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Post Post #6022 (isolation #635) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:29 am

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You could, oh, I don't know, try and find the scum.
Convince people I'm scum.
Get them to join my wagon.
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Post Post #6023 (isolation #636) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:30 am

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I don't buy a 1-shot Vig holding their shot until NIGHT THREE without mod-side stipulations.
Every 1-shot Vig shoots N1 unless they think they're getting RB'd or something.
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Post Post #6033 (isolation #637) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:42 am

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So my efforts to get dreal to do things have succeeded.
Unfortunately all it amounts to is whining and complaining about our playstyle, being frustrated, and little actual finding the scum.
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Post Post #6036 (isolation #638) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:47 am

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I have been talking to you for the past hour or so.
I'm not pretending to have a BIG OL PLAN other than just try and get you to do things.

I realize that I cannot lynch someone by myself so I brought up the Voting Bloc deal to try and get some work done.
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Post Post #6039 (isolation #639) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:52 am

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In post 6035, drealmerz7 wrote:(does anyone actually have a memory? I did say I'd pick it up come D3-D4, as is per my usual comfort in a large theme)
I remember lots.

SAD got to L-1 in like 10 pages and he didn't give a shit.
I fought with Tammy.
Nacho tried to defuse it.
Sly tried to get me to re-engage with the game.
I wrote the RUIN HAS COME TO THE LAUNDROMAT.
I flirted with Maria a bit.
We had a wine party.
Sly was here and made two absolutely amazing plays this game, only one of which was game-related. (I need to thank him for what he did too btw.)
We laughed and had a good time.
Pine decided to grace us with his presence.
Gerry was being difficult.
I wrote haikus for EP which showed up in the votecounts.
We scrambled for a deadline lynch D1 and actually got scum.
Frogger died.
We had another long day which ended with Sly getting lynched which has been the saddest thing to happen to this game.
We quicklynched Nacho D3 after the gunsmith claim.
Now we're here.
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Post Post #6042 (isolation #640) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:57 am

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Still prefer drealmerz but I'll compromise if that's what we're doing.
VOTE: Nosferatu


pedit: Yeah, I know.


Addendum:
I narrated my Darkest Dungeon game.
SAD posted YOUR LIE IN gifs.
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Post Post #6044 (isolation #641) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:59 am

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In post 6041, drealmerz7 wrote:you don't remember anything of significance
This is sheer opinion since everything
I
deem important I remember.
I remember my brothers-in-arms, the fun times, the rough times I had with Tammy and our attempt to right the course, Maria, having a good time and still trying to sort out the game.

The fact that the Wine Night is probably 100% town in terms of participants.


Yes there are other events in the game like the votes and the lynches and the cases which I remember but the important things I will remember after the game is over will be the time spent here with the people I care about.
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Post Post #6048 (isolation #642) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:02 am

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In post 6043, drealmerz7 wrote:you fought with Tammy - like a scumfuck from hell that made it obvious that either your or slysly were scum
Because my best play as scum, D1, after THE THING demonstrate my incredible unwillingness to scumread Tammy, would be to immediately piss her off and make her my enemy.


pedit: Yeah, Nos is a good play let's do this. Thanks for your hard work Desp. :D
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Post Post #6049 (isolation #643) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:03 am

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More dreal fighting over playstyle differences. :roll:
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Post Post #6086 (isolation #644) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:02 am

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We really need to pick one of [dreal, Nos] and just go for it.

pedit: You're not trash.
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Post Post #6102 (isolation #645) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:07 am

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In post 6091, MariaR wrote:
In post 6086, Andrius wrote:We really need to pick one of [dreal, Nos] and just go for it.

pedit: You're not trash.
At this game as town yes I am sadly andy :lol: but thank you for cheering me up (again)
That's what I'm here for.
That and lynching scum.
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Post Post #6112 (isolation #646) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:11 am

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In post 6105, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 6098, MariaR wrote:
In post 6096, drealmerz7 wrote:if I had to pick a team right now it'd be

maria, SAD, pine, andrius
YOOOO MAKE THIS A THING TAKE MY TOWN ROLE RN AND GIVE ME 3RD PARTY CULT WITH THIS TEAM
Holy that team

sign me right the fuck up.
/in to win
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Post Post #6119 (isolation #647) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:16 am

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Post Post #6180 (isolation #648) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:28 pm

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In post 6177, gerryoat wrote:i am ok with nos, i dont tr him at all. but i would still prefer desp or maria
I dont want to lynch either of them.
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Post Post #6188 (isolation #649) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:32 pm

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DEAR ERRANTPARABOLA:


Table of ContentsDawn of Day One
Day One Lynch
Dawn of Day Two
Day Two Lynch
Dawn of Day Three
Day Three Lynch
Dawn of Day Four


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Post Post #6205 (isolation #650) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:12 am

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In post 6197, Desperado wrote:and your results were....

????????

haha wtf
This.
He's scum, presented no results.
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Post Post #6248 (isolation #651) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:33 am

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In post 6233, Pine wrote:It's not a gambit.

High five, voting bloc!
WINNING

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Post Post #6256 (isolation #652) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:36 am

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You'd think scum would learn to not do the 2-shot gimmick by now.
zzz
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Post Post #6263 (isolation #653) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:45 am

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ALL ABOARD THE HYPETRAIN TO VICTORY
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Post Post #6266 (isolation #654) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:50 am

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I claimed a long long time ago.
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Post Post #6269 (isolation #655) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:52 am

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In post 6267, MariaR wrote:What are you (B
You don't already know my heart?
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Post Post #6272 (isolation #656) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:54 am

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Happy Scumday, Desp.
Here's a scumlynch for your special day!

pedit: <3 We both might make it out of this alive after all.
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Post Post #6276 (isolation #657) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:01 am

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I'm still moderately disappointed EP didn't humor my NUKE action earlier. :(
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Post Post #6280 (isolation #658) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:05 am

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I'll just be sitting here.
Watching all of you claim.
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Post Post #6284 (isolation #659) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:07 am

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I suppose TALKING ABOUT SECRETS would have been more accurate but w/e.
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Post Post #6291 (isolation #660) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:18 am

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Here let me give you a number that might help you out.
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Post Post #6293 (isolation #661) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:21 am

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1823
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Post Post #6295 (isolation #662) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:23 am

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I still hold that the First Wine Night participants were all town.
[Andy, Maria, Sly, Pine, Gerry]

pedit: Well yeah it was obvious D1.
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Post Post #6298 (isolation #663) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:25 am

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This is true.

Basically this was the foot I stood on when I kept telling you that your assumptions about the game were erratic, because I KNEW there was at least one VT (me) so your role madness SPEC was wrong and I attempted to tell you as such.
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Post Post #6301 (isolation #664) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:30 am

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In post 6299, MariaR wrote:All this happiness....I could get use to it
We're not out of the woods yet.
Plenty of time yet to die for the motherland.
Can't go running off into the sunset yet.
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Post Post #6304 (isolation #665) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:41 am

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I have enough confidence in their abilities to think that'd be a possibility.
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Post Post #6308 (isolation #666) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:38 am

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So I went to the OP to look to see if people can BAH post or not.
(Answer is NO.)

When I found this:
In post 0, Errantparabola wrote:- Scum cannot perform kill and use power on the same night.
May become relevant.
Also somewhat confirms the existence of a Non-Encyptor Scum PR.
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Post Post #6317 (isolation #667) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:11 am

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In post 6315, Desperado wrote:ya pine really mind controlled me in to doing an in depth vca that directly pointed to nos scum

and iirc everyone was too busy barfing all over themselves over dreal while i was doing that

then suddenly nos got lynched

but no, pine is the puppet master
Every puppet master needs a good fall-guy in the spotlight.
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Post Post #6322 (isolation #668) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:42 am

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Post Post #6406 (isolation #669) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:53 pm

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Super ok with [Zach, dreal]'s lynch.
Desperado's VCA should get some attention to help us out.
I don't have time at the moment to do so, however. Heading out for a campaign in a bit. Will try not to drink and post excessively.
In post 6339, MariaR wrote:I'm pretty sure mass is right today so I'll keep it going
I'm the laundry room I'm a sock vendor I've softed it many times

Pine did you get my socks?
N1/N2/N3/N4/N5 actions if we're actually massclaiming.

Thank you, Maria.
In post 6356, McMenno wrote:so far creature slysly and gerryoat have died.
RIP Sly.
Creature's a dead scumbucket so no sympathy.
Jury's still out on Gerry.
THE ONLY INNOCENTS ARE BODIES.

I am interested in voting Zach but we don't need to rush things

In post 6370, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I actually don't suspect Andrius much anymore btw.
I'd ask for your reasoning, but I suspect you will ignore me again.
Its ok though.
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Post Post #6409 (isolation #670) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:54 pm

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Insert hug gif here.
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Post Post #6411 (isolation #671) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:55 pm

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Also we should keep in mind that PINE is claiming Hated and thus could complicate a LyLo situation.
So we have less time than we think given scum can easy-hammer him.
Assuming he's town ofc.
Which he likely is.

Things to keep in mind.
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Post Post #6419 (isolation #672) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:58 pm

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Yeah, I'm sure we have.
Mentioning it again can't hurt though?
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Post Post #6422 (isolation #673) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:59 pm

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Not at all interested in a massclaim today but if/when we do its going to be done right with night actions and results, but the bullcrap Nos pulled because that was scummy as all crap.
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Post Post #6424 (isolation #674) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 6420, MariaR wrote:Still no answer on why people think it's 4 scum 5 makes much more sense
12:5 isn't unheard of.
But 12:5 without killing roles is stupidly bad.
Unless half of you are creative killing roles or some crap.
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Post Post #6426 (isolation #675) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:01 pm

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Ok its not stupidly bad I'm just incredibly biased against large themes with one kill a night because they take forever.
I'm sure this is a well-designed game with good roles etc but I don't see 12:5 in general.
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Post Post #6428 (isolation #676) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:02 pm

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Its not 12:4, dear.
There were 17 of us. :P
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Post Post #6432 (isolation #677) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:03 pm

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13:4 or 12:5 or 12:4:1 or some crap.
I could maybe see a TRAITOR but I don't see 5 outright.

More idle speculation though.
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Post Post #6435 (isolation #678) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:05 pm

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Oh crap.
FB was there for the First Wine Night too IIRC.
Sorry man.
Forgot about you.
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Post Post #6442 (isolation #679) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:10 pm

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There is reason not to rush this.
I enjoy partying with some of you and I could use some time talking and working out reads.

We have time, lets talk.
And Ill likely be drinking a bit so itll be HIGHLY ENTERTAINING and/or informational.
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Post Post #6444 (isolation #680) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:10 pm

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Why the F would you not protect a mason?
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Post Post #6474 (isolation #681) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 6463, Pine wrote:
Andy, if this is our second Town game in a row where we crush scum together, we should definitely do a Paladin and Cleric gimmick hydra together. Clearly we are unstoppable.


This is reminding me a lot of the endgame of Gay Mafia, where Town had scum dead to rights and they flailed super badly because they saw the writing on the wall.
You're amazing, brother. Im down.

Maria, this has been a blast. <3

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Post Post #6498 (isolation #682) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:35 pm

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In post 6488, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 6096, drealmerz7 wrote:if I had to pick a team right now it'd be

maria, SAD, pine, andrius
Best team.
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Post Post #6533 (isolation #683) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:32 pm

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Ok im here.
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Post Post #6537 (isolation #684) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:37 pm

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Hrm.
Im at the point where purging all non-bloc members can die.

Gerry should NOT be allowed in LyLo, nor should the Miller.

I have words regarding the Zach scenario but don't want to compromise this any more than need be.

Against lynching Pine and Maria.
I can see a 1shot mafia vig; or someone fakeclaiming limited vig by abusing a bulletproof claim. But I am biased anyway so dreal leans town.

Hrm.
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Post Post #6539 (isolation #685) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:38 pm

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In post 6534, Desperado wrote:yo andrius

what do you think of gerry's "sad died because scum were afraid of other vests" theory?

sounds kinda like a scumfession to me
Wait what
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Post Post #6542 (isolation #686) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:39 pm

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In post 6538, Desperado wrote:and why do you think you/gerry/mcmenno are all still alive?
Becausr Menno hasnt really done anything since the creature Lynch D1.
I am a claimed VT and apparently the Token VT. Again.
Gerry and his claiming D1 was bad and if I am in LYLo wity him I will vote him just to ensure he doesnt win as scum.
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Post Post #6544 (isolation #687) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:40 pm

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In post 6541, Desperado wrote:reminder that i still have a 1-shot commute, which means i can either clear myself or force scum to NK to keep me lynchable
Keep forgetting about this.
Still ok with you dying before the end.
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Post Post #6546 (isolation #688) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:42 pm

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Oh.
Was wondering why you were asking me.
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Post Post #6548 (isolation #689) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:46 pm

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Why are there so many protective roles in a game with so few killers?
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Post Post #6551 (isolation #690) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:49 pm

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I am now pro-massclaim.
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Post Post #6554 (isolation #691) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:50 pm

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Phoneposting is rough with ninjas.
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Post Post #6556 (isolation #692) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 6552, Desperado wrote:
In post 6541, Desperado wrote:reminder that i still have a 1-shot commute, which means i can either clear myself or force scum to NK to keep me lynchable
this statement is 100% factual
If you are scum, you shoot someone, fake a commute, and "confirm" yourself?
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Post Post #6558 (isolation #693) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 6555, Desperado wrote:
In post 6548, Andrius wrote:Why are there so many protective roles in a game with so few killers?
maria could just be scum after all
This is a possibility.
Sadly.
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Post Post #6566 (isolation #694) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:48 pm

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I know its "bad" play but that sounds like a solid plan.
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Post Post #6567 (isolation #695) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:52 pm

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Minus the fact that town has too many protective roles
Dreal I dont want in endgame
Etc

Can anyone confirm receipt of Maria's items?
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Post Post #6568 (isolation #696) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:53 pm

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Massclaim today Y/N?
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Post Post #6570 (isolation #697) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:00 pm

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In post 6569, MariaR wrote:Andy I thought we were gonna be town
hug buddies
friends why do you gonna be scum
We ARE town hug buddies.

What is your read on me, no POE?
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Post Post #6571 (isolation #698) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:01 pm

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Bias is, of course, assumed. :P
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Post Post #6573 (isolation #699) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:06 pm

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Image

Pedit: What does Null mean on Day Six? You're undecided? I dont like feetdragging.
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Post Post #6577 (isolation #700) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:15 pm

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I mean, maybe its just because its me but I was hoping you'd have something one way or the other.


No I mean 100% out. All night actions, all results.
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Post Post #6579 (isolation #701) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:15 pm

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In post 6575, MariaR wrote:I wouldn't be shocked by either
Nor would I for any one in this game.
Save one.
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Post Post #6581 (isolation #702) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:22 pm

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Also did anyone confirm being JKd by Zach? Since his action is confirmed?

I disagree.
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Post Post #6583 (isolation #703) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:26 pm

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Scum cant act and kill.
Therefore if your target receives a confirmable action then we know you didn't kill.

Im trying to help you, dear.
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Post Post #6584 (isolation #704) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:27 pm

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In post 6582, MariaR wrote:Why would Zach lie about his jailkeeps?
You're just fishing for info not needed
Because hes an ass who lied about his alignment and put me in a precarious situation.
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Post Post #6585 (isolation #705) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:29 pm

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In post 6439, Zachstralkita wrote:Okay I'm Jailkeeper

N1 McMenno (Wasn't here up to lynch - either way I missed Fro99er's claim and didn't go back to see anything)

N2 Maria

N3 Firebringer

N4 Pine
Dreal I want you to fullclaim all your shots pls.
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Post Post #6588 (isolation #706) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:36 pm

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A faint clap of thunder
Clouded skies
Perhaps rain comes
If so, will you stay here with me?
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Post Post #6590 (isolation #707) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:45 pm

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In post 6587, MariaR wrote:You mean wifom right
No I want to try to piece this together before I am called home.
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Post Post #6591 (isolation #708) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:45 pm

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In post 6589, MariaR wrote:T-thunder?

Runs and hides under my blanket
Outside is the place to be in rain, Maria.
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Post Post #6593 (isolation #709) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:52 pm

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Ok we can compromise. Read in blanket under a veranda.
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Post Post #6595 (isolation #710) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:00 pm

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So what do you think of dreal? Because he's not on your list pf for death and I want him dead
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Post Post #6597 (isolation #711) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:37 pm

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Hypothetically, if the recipient receives notice of Maria's action as she has hinted at with Pine the last couple days, then she should be confirmed each night but N3 when Zach claimed to block her.
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Post Post #6600 (isolation #712) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:17 am

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dreal

Was SAD your only shot?
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Post Post #6611 (isolation #713) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:55 am

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In post 6604, drealmerz7 wrote:you know who really wants to know about vig. shots?

SCUM!

keep fishing, andy!

mcmenno, love the claim, hope it's true!
We're massclaiming today.
Asking for information about your role isn't out of the question given MASSCLAIM.
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Post Post #6613 (isolation #714) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:56 am

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In post 6610, MariaR wrote:Do you know how easy it to out fake doc targets if I wanted you moron I could do it easy
Look, I'm basing some of this off the assumption that YOU WERE ASKING PINE IF HE RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM YOU.
Indicating that YOUR ACTION IS CONFIRMABLE.
So we get draw up a list of your targets, and confirm your shots.


How is this so hard to understand?
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Post Post #6616 (isolation #715) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 6602, McMenno wrote:
In post 6537, Andrius wrote:Hrm.
Im at the point where purging all non-bloc members can die.

Gerry should NOT be allowed in LyLo, nor should the Miller.

I have words regarding the Zach scenario but don't want to compromise this any more than need be.

Against lynching Pine and Maria.
I can see a 1shot mafia vig; or someone fakeclaiming limited vig by abusing a bulletproof claim. But I am biased anyway so dreal leans town.

Hrm.
seriously dude? seriously?

we're two, maybe even one day away from lylo, and you want to get some policy lynches going
now
? are you actually scumreading them? because it sure as hell doesn't sound like it

VOTE: andrius
Not a policy lynch.
I'm not lynching them because they exist.
I want to lynch people based on their PLAY.
Don't get all bent out of shape over it.
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Post Post #6617 (isolation #716) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:59 am

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In post 6615, MariaR wrote:I don't think I can say what I thought it said because thats rule breaking?
Talking about a role you don't have isn't rule breaking?

I talked about being a SK for days yet EP didn't modkill me.
I even asked him to modkill me twice already for the fighting with Tammy and something else and really EP and I should have words regarding something else but I'd rather just lynch myself and save this game a replacement.
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Post Post #6621 (isolation #717) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:03 am

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Did Gerry ever claim important things?
I know we got a RoleName from Nos before he died but IIRC we don't know what he does and/or any relevant night actions.

Massclaim includes ROLE, NIGHT ACTIONS, MISC INFORMATION.
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Post Post #6625 (isolation #718) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:05 am

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SAD died last night, dreal.
Come on man.
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Post Post #6640 (isolation #719) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:17 am

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Pine - 2shot Bomb. Bombs don't traditionally function like CHOOSE A NIGHT. Unconfirmable without death. Makes sense with a Vig. The change, arguably, makes the role "better" in the sense that it requires EFFORT and not just sit there and kill whoever shoots you. The fact that Pine has been paranoia-ing on my since DAY ONE despite yesterday's clear ANDY WE WON THE GAME LETS HYDRA SOMETIME is odd. From the Scum POV, he's been setting up a THE PARANOIA FINALLY GOT ME ON ANDY since D1 Otherwise I don't get the reversal.
Maria - Darling, I thought you were town. And then the claim fiasco happened and, at this point, I wouldn't stake the game on you FINAL THREE style. Also been somewhat hesitant to take a firm stance on me the entire game, especially if we exclude bias. She was, however, part of the WINE NIGHT thing which was probably mostly town. Because, unlike people's words, it was not entirely OUT OF GAME since the whole thing started with me and Maria talking about bias and Sly showed up with the best play of the game.
Desp - Miller/Commuter. The VCA was the most darn towny-thing yesterday. I thought he was town most of the game since D1, but I would be 0% surprised here if he were scum given MILLER in a WEAK COP game. The reason why I want to know if dreal had EXTRA SHOTS BESIDES SAD was because this would be SIMPLE if we had missing kills and could be puzzled that Frogger died cop-ing 'the wrong way' onto Scum-Faking-Miller Desp. I think that the VCA is a lot of information. Idk. I wouldn't want him at LyLo out of sheer Miller-policy and the Miller/Commuter is some interesting design. I mean, scum don't shoot millers so the commute is effectively a way to have them avoid a vig. Which is scum-sided. There has been no Godfather of EITHER variety so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a modified BP Godfather who can Commute, since that both counters the Town Vig (?) and the Town Cop (?) and anything else we might have.
dreal - Apparently the town vig who refuses to claim # of shots and night actions. I've thought he's been scum most of the game partly because he has little drive and apparently his scum meta is to sit and wait for the right time to go SUDDENLY IM ACTIVE? Idk I don't acutally know anything about his scum-meta but Pine does so there's that.
Menno - Made a case of Creature D1. Did little to push. Has done little since then besides participate in wagons. Bussing Creature D1 would be something he would do.
Gerry - Anti-town to the extreme given his reliance on claims and jazz to do things in the early-game. I don't trust him around LyLo but there's only one person I would trust in LyLo at this point so there's that.

tl;dr
I am now compromised.
It is time for me to die.
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Post Post #6642 (isolation #720) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:18 am

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Desp has also been, IMO, the most consistently tryharding of the game, with maybe SAD as a second contender.
I thought that was solid townplay for the days that dragged on and we struggled to get any traction whatsoever.
I'm warming up to him in the final three.
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Post Post #6645 (isolation #721) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:20 am

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Despite what people say I can see a Limited (1shot) Scum Vig in this game given the surprising lack of scum power we've seen so far and the speculation that we have two protective roles, even if one is non-standard.
I know this means little but hey, its here and I'm dying so let's get this clear.
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Post Post #6651 (isolation #722) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:33 am

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Look, Menno.
I'm getting my incoherent thoughts out here given my death approaches.
I'm not SAYING he's a Scum Vig, I'm SAYING that it wouldn't be OUT OF REALITY.
I could FURTHER ARGUE that Ep, Spy, Magna were all in THE THING MAFIA and probably all were like YEAH SOMEONE HANDING OUT BULLETPROOF VESTS IS A GOOD ROLE.
I also think that the same THREE PEOPLE, 2 of whom were THINGS WITH ME as SOME OF YOU UNFONDLY REMEMBER, were part of a SCUMTEAM WITH A 1SHOT VIG THAT NEVER SHOT.
I do not think it would be TOO OUT OF SPECULATION to think that a Scum 1shot Vig might be in a game, especially if we're factoring in good protective roles, the synergy it has with the Scum 2shot RoleCop, and the dearth of Town PRs.
And the Bomb. Because that also increases the chance the bomb is USEFUL to the town.

I'm not SAYING HES SCUM 1shot VIG 100% certainty.
I think he's likely scum of SOME ROLE and I'm arguing DONT THROW OUT 1shot VIG given he held his one shot to N2/3 (whenever he claimed to shoot SAD I cant remember) especially given a failed shot is easy as crap to fake.
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Post Post #6653 (isolation #723) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:38 am

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I follow you.

Again, the point isn't trying to convince you DREAL IS LIMITED SCUM VIG.
I'm saying don't throw it out so easily esp given THE MOD TEAM ENJOYS SHENANIGANS.
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Post Post #6654 (isolation #724) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:38 am

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Still Want:
+Claim Info from Dreal
+Claim Info from Gerry
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Post Post #6656 (isolation #725) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:39 am

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I don't care that dreal doesn't like me asking this happens every game we're in together and I know THIS ISNT HOW YOUR HOMESITE WORKS AND WE DISAGREE ON POLICY but I don't care.
We're at massclaim and it would help.
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Post Post #6661 (isolation #726) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:52 am

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In post 6657, drealmerz7 wrote:andrius I kind of have a hard time believing you believe my scum game is "this good"

I told all there was to tell
I mean, saying that you'd fakeclaim vig as scum
and saying your scumgame is good
are two different things?
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Post Post #6663 (isolation #727) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:26 am

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[Menno, Gerry, dreal, Desp, Maria, Pine]
+Pine town.
If: Menno Town.
And: Dreal town.

[Maria, Gerry, Desp]
A fullclaim from Gerry would be nice at this point.
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Post Post #6664 (isolation #728) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:27 am

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In post 6207, Nosferatu wrote:I didn't really want to full claim results but you guys are intent on lynching so..
In post 6199, gerryoat wrote:Wait don't hammer yet. What nights did you use the role cops and on who each night.
N1: Fire
N2: Gerry

Gerry is a double visitor. It's also compulsive and with a loved modifier. There's also a potential effect but idk what that means.

Fire is a vest giver. He's not a gunsmith. Like idk where tf that would even come from.
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Post Post #6665 (isolation #729) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:28 am

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In post 6439, Zachstralkita wrote:Okay I'm Jailkeeper

N1 McMenno (Wasn't here up to lynch - either way I missed Fro99er's claim and didn't go back to see anything)

N2 Maria

N3 Firebringer

N4 Pine
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Post Post #6666 (isolation #730) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:31 am

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Assuming that the LOVED modifier does what it did in the project I was reviewing for SpyreX, then there should be some sort of attachment.
hrm
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Post Post #6667 (isolation #731) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:31 am

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Also assuming Nos isn't making shit up.
But given he would have been CC'd that's less likely given both [FB, Gerry] were alive for Nos' lynch.
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Post Post #6668 (isolation #732) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:32 am

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FB also died the night after.
Gerry is still here.
If he is indeed loved, someone would know that.
And die with him.
Hrm.
So why isn't he dead?
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Post Post #6669 (isolation #733) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:33 am

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Pine also claimed Hated.
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Post Post #6670 (isolation #734) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:35 am

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1. Desperado, Miller 1shot Commuter
2. drealmerz7, 1shot N3-And-After Vig
4. Pine, 2shot Hated Bomb
6. MariaR, Twice-Consecutive Doctor
11. McMenno, VT
13. gerryoat, "Compulsive Loved Double Visitor"
17. Andrius, VT
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Post Post #6671 (isolation #735) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:37 am

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This is definitely biased but I don't see six votes on Creature in the 1.16 area and zero scum bussing the Goon.
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Post Post #6672 (isolation #736) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:39 am

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Magna and Spy would get a kick out of having a Miller and a Weak Cop.
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Post Post #6673 (isolation #737) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:12 am

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D4 Recap without fun pictures and gifs because I don't care to put in this kind of effort for only a couple people.

Spoiler: Pt I
Pine and I open voting drealm out of the gate. I was still operating under the false pretense that we had a tracker guilty on dreal.
In post 5683, Firebringer wrote:also gerry is probably scum more i think about it.
This is the day before he dies, for the record.
In post 5690, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry
In post 5692, Desperado wrote:
In post 5690, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry
Itshappening.gif

vote: gerry
In post 5706, gerryoat wrote:Maria should also prob be lynched cause she TR both obvious mafia
In post 5710, Pine wrote:Leaning Town on Maria now. I don't think she hard defends both scum lynches as their buddy.
In post 5744, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 5740, gerryoat wrote:I literally can't believe i'm wagoned after i called out both mafia day 1. i can't believe people are this bad at mafia and have been on the site for so long.
This was kawaii desu the first million times you said it.

Now it's time to put up or shut up and full claim.
In post 5749, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:You do seriously think you should be getting anywhere near lylo with that attitude?

On day 4 you're still being anti-town. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt early on, but now it just sounds fake as hell.
In post 5761, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 5759, Pine wrote:There is zero evidence of a SK
Well if mafia shot the sheriff, who shot the deputy???
In post 5773, Andrius wrote:Also wanted to repost this for Firebringer because I saw it last night and want to remind him of his obligations:
In post 68, Firebringer wrote:by the end of this game, mark my words.
you will be drowning in dirty laundry andrius.
all over your profile image.
FB is now BrokenPromisesBringer.
In post 5782, Andrius wrote:drealmerz has been calling me scum all game, for example.
He's made zero effort to push a wagon on me. Instead he pushed Sly, who flipped town, and doesn't re-evaluate his reads.
So now he's on Gerry which, assuming they're not buddies, is going to be an easy lynch to push through and then spend all of D5 calling me scum (again) and not doing anything about it.

Coasting.
STRAHD and THING he screams over his scumreads.
Hell he engaged Tammy late D2 (or was it D3 I can't remember) into a screaming match that put THE FIRE in Tammy and I was super impressed with how easily he got her to fight.

He is doing 0% fighting.
0% solving.
0% pushing his scumread on me.
After screaming for my blood the other two games I've been in with him.
In post 5797, gerryoat wrote:if you guys dont want maria for w/e reason, desp is the best vote

VOTE: Desperado
But I thought Maria was scum.
What gives.
In post 5805, gerryoat wrote:You don't want the person who led on 2 mafia in lylo is comical
In post 5806, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Wtf are you talking about.

You did literally nothing.
In post 5807, Firebringer wrote:frankly if ur in lylo gerry, i am 100% sure u will be the scum of the group right now.
In post 5831, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 5678, Andrius wrote:VOTE: drealmerz7
Scum whining he's caught for the wrong reasons.
*sigh* unfortunately.
VOTE: dreal
In post 5690, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry
pls no
In post 5833, Nosferatu wrote:Town:
Zachstralkita
Pine
Ser Arthur Dayne
MariaR
Firebringer
gerryoat

Which leaves a current lynch pool of:
Desperado - on creature, off sly, off nacho
drealmerz7 - off creature, on sly, off nacho
McMenno - on creature, on sly, on nacho
Andrius - on creature, off sly, on nacho

Not entirely sure if menno would jump outta the gate bussing both of his scumbuddies, but he's also been on every lynch this game and doesn't ooze town like others in this game.
Andrius was on both scum lynches, off of sly, and interactions with Tammy seemed like they were on the same team, and since Tammy was a mason, ipso facto, you get the deal.
Desperado I honestly stopped paying attention to awhile ago, but he hasn't exactly been hitting the mark on his reads so far with creature push and gerry push along with nacho townread (although admittedly I thought nacho was town too).
Dreal was flailing really hard for most of this game pretty unnecessarily which is why assumed he was a VI in this game too, but maybe this is just his scum meta? Idk since I've not read any of his games.

In terms of likelihood of flipping scum:
1. Dreal
2. Desperado
3. McMenno
4. Andrius
In post 5834, Pine wrote:Nos's sudden enthusiasm against drealmerz makes me really uncomfortable.

VOTE: Nosferatu

I'd like to see this flip.
In post 5843, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 5842, gerryoat wrote:Why? Also dreal can have really bad actions as town. Why do you scum read him?
His consistent flailing at basically everything. I feel like town dreal would get the memo by now. He's so jumpy.
In post 5849, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:There's glimpses of Zach-town in nacho's ISO.

Maria is p town from nacho's ISO.

mcmenno scummy, nos never mentioned, pine might look like double bussing, Gerry reads fake as hell. Andrius is mehh I don't think partners would go back and forth so much idk maybe they both like scum and are willing to out that much effort but I don't really see it.
In post 5850, Desperado wrote:wow that quote failed completely

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

vote: nosferatu
In post 5851, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:But Gerry isn't on it..
In post 5855, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I think one of {Gerry, mcmenno} scum + Nos.
In post 5863, Desperado wrote:Like, "player X hasn't done shit but has been on the right wagons" is a pretty good definition for good scum play
Re: Gerry, Menno
The Inverse being Maria who's off all the good wagons [Creature, Nacho] and on the bad ones [Sly].
In post 5921, Zachstralkita wrote:I've witnessed him do that in games he will say stuff like "yes that is a very good lynch" but his vote will just be somewhere else but he doesn't act like it fazes him

He did it last game and he was town ... I think when he says he doesn't care about the game he really means it
In post 5922, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Then why does he care so much about getting lynched.
In post 5923, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Seriously gerry + dreamz's attitude of "I don't give a fuck about the game lololol" "Oh holy you're gonna lynch me you're all fucking stupid how can people be this bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Yeah okay.
In post 5937, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:How many is it to lynch?

With 11, 6.

{Me, Desperado, Maria, Andrius, Firebringer, Pine} voting bloc would be good. Majority to agree to a lynch. I doubt there's more than 1 scum in here, if any.
Friendly reminder that we're now down two bloc members.
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Post Post #6674 (isolation #738) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:19 am

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I am discussing something with EP.
I will not resume until it has been resolved.
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Post Post #6677 (isolation #739) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:43 am

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Spare the others.
I am ready.
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Post Post #6678 (isolation #740) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:44 am

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...though I suppose I should continue my work.
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Post Post #6679 (isolation #741) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:06 pm

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I am at the point where I think dreal is town who is playing his incredibly defensive game. The earlygame lull makes sense if he's town vig as he needed to survive to N3 in order to shoot.

I really don't like his approach though and everything I said before on his play I still hold to - he never really pushed his scumreads or was a ringleader for anything but he'll simply ignore me since I don't do cases with post numbers and this won't get anywhere. So if he's actually scum you're going to have to judge his interactions and what he's done all game. I mean, he would honestly not surprise me either alignment at this point. I'd lean town though. I think.
In post 5977, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 5972, drealmerz7 wrote:"we've got no case!!! but we're bullheaded enough and just keep pushing it, we might be able to get it through" - that is not good scum play, even if you're successful with it, it's like, again "we we just play soooooo horrible to a point where they can't sink to our level and beat us on the level!!" - nothing to be proud of and is disgusting
If you want cases you're stuck living in 2011 m8.

Not everyone plays by cases. I actually do sometimes, but most of the time I read on the little subtleties in people's play.
This really resonated with me and I agree with this.
Dreal and I have some obvious play/policy differences and I don't think running around this will get us anywhere.

I mean, I'd only hope that having me flip town X many times in a row would finally convince dreal that I don't play to his clearly well-established reads of people but whatever; I'll just have to decide whether I want to be in games with him from now on assuming he's not permanently banned one of these days. lol

I think I want to call Desp town.
I think I might just have to put this down and walk away.

Pine campaigning again for Nos even after I sent the mail.
In post 6150, MariaR wrote:
In post 6146, Firebringer wrote:
In post 6145, MariaR wrote:This is bs because the nacho wagon was gone in 3 fucking hours lol I woke up to the day being over
HE WAS ON AT THE TIME
ARE YOU EVEN READING THE GAME
He was on and didn't vote in the 3 hours of the nacho wagon?
SCUM OMG SCUM SCUMMMMMM :yawn:
In post 6151, Firebringer wrote:how in the hell can you make these statements when your reads have been proven to be shit and ur not reading?
We should not rush this.
We should let Pine catch up.
I still want to see Gerry claim/actions/etc.
Actions from Maria'd be nice too but less important now that apparently she doesn't vend.

I don't get how this is asking too much but w/e.
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Post Post #6682 (isolation #742) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:33 pm

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In post 6680, drealmerz7 wrote:though I do find some how how you do town to be inherently scummy and think you do it to fortify your scumgame when you roll scum
No, I don't play town to make scum look better.
I play scum to mimic my towngame though.

We have clear policy disagreements (re: claiming, for one, since you think any form of fishing is scummy) that we don't seem to get around so whatever.
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Post Post #6684 (isolation #743) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:50 pm

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There's a reason I have my title, dreal.
I hoped you'd pick up on it by now.

This is definitely an appropriate time to massclaim.

I have no interest in talking policy with you since clearly it wont get us anywhere.
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Post Post #6685 (isolation #744) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:54 pm

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I wrote up some thing where I disagreed with most of what you said and realized it won't get us anywhere and doesn't bring my joy so its not happening.
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Post Post #6686 (isolation #745) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:54 pm

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Basically ZACH was my example of townies doing the best for town.
And by that I mean NOT doing what's best by not protecting the mason claims.

And the whole claiming scum fiasco.
But whatever apparently that's ok.
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Post Post #6699 (isolation #746) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:31 pm

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Im not sure there's any more I can offer this one besides more idle speculation.
If we're not going to massclaim and you're not interested in discussion, then this is where you bury me.

And, frankly, this is where I want to die.

Im done going in circles with Gerry and dreal and Menno.
I hate to say it, but I miss SAD right about now.
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Post Post #6701 (isolation #747) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:36 pm

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My final two are Desp and Pine.
No final three because I do not sufficiently townread anyone enough for there to BE a third.
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Post Post #6702 (isolation #748) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:37 pm

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In post 6700, MariaR wrote:UNVOTE:
you can get a day and see if people scum it up more
I dont really get this.
If you think Im scum then Im the last scum, Lynch me and win.
What are you waiting for, a better deal?
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Post Post #6709 (isolation #749) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:05 pm

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Anyone got anything for me?
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Post Post #6711 (isolation #750) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 6710, McMenno wrote:you can help me finish the song
Related to the game.
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Post Post #6717 (isolation #751) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:44 pm

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I miss Wine Night.
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Pine I can chat if you want.
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Post Post #6719 (isolation #752) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:11 am

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[dreal, Pine, Desp, Maria, Gerry, Menno]
-[Pine, Desp]
=[dreal, Menno, Gerry, Maria]
-[dreal, Menno]
=[Gerry, Maria]
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Post Post #6720 (isolation #753) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:12 am

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Which basically leaves me at did the last scum attempt to bus both [Creature, Nacho] or avoid bussing both [Creature, Nacho]?
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Post Post #6721 (isolation #754) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:18 am

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I think I'm ok with a Maria lynch at this point, even if I stand aside as at Losgar.
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Post Post #6722 (isolation #755) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:41 am

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But then I remembered her interaction with Zach at the end of yesterday.
The whole why would she claim, as scum, at the Zach scumclaim since she knows the game will go on?
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Post Post #6724 (isolation #756) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:50 am

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PST.
Guess I have to go grocery shopping after all.
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Post Post #6726 (isolation #757) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:48 am

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Pick a time.
I'll make it work for you bby.
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Post Post #6727 (isolation #758) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:48 am

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Midnight/9pm works for me.
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Post Post #6730 (isolation #759) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:58 am

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Zach was a scum lynch.
He wasn't mafia but he was a scum lynch.
Sly, on the other hand, was a mislynch.
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Post Post #6732 (isolation #760) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:04 am

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Let's not speak of that.
Suffice to say that, yeah, this was my one game with him and I have no desire for another.
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Post Post #6735 (isolation #761) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:35 pm

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Image
A faint clap of thunder
Clouded skies
Perhaps rain comes
If so, will you stay here with me?
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Post Post #6737 (isolation #762) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:42 pm

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That is not the correct response.
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Post Post #6739 (isolation #763) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 6738, McMenno wrote:I don't know if I can stay with you andrius. You are a nymphomaniac and also a known cheat.
That's nothing a trip to the Sanitarium can't fix.
Seriously. Fix the good characters with the Sanitarium/smart usage of specific Curios for Quirk Management.
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Post Post #6740 (isolation #764) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:46 pm

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See a pile of scrolls on the ground in The Warrens? Burn them with a torch.
Coral in The Cove? Medicinal Herbs.
Confessional in The Ruins? Feeling lucky? Go in with nothing.
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Post Post #6742 (isolation #765) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:49 pm

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Ignore my stats/abilities/items/etc.
They zero out when you die. :(


pedit: You can still remove locked in negatives. Even with Curios.
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Post Post #6743 (isolation #766) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:50 pm

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Known Cheat is definitely not worth removing.
I'd definitely not have locked in Nympho 1) because locking in stress relief quirks are terrible 2) nympho isn't that good 3) definitely not an andrius quirk
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Post Post #6745 (isolation #767) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:52 pm

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Photomania and Hard Noggin are almost always insta-locks for me.
+ACC and +Crit are good for fighters.

The Hater and Slayer series are great, namely ELD for the Darkest Dungeon.

pedit: LOCK THAT IN. Very Andrius.
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Post Post #6751 (isolation #768) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:43 pm

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Sly.
Duh.
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Post Post #6753 (isolation #769) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:16 pm

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PARTYTIME
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Post Post #6754 (isolation #770) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:17 pm

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No idea where this is from and the girl's eyes are creepy as all crap but hey.

LET THE WINE FLOW
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Post Post #6755 (isolation #771) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:20 pm

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My dear Cleric Pine.

How can I help you this game?
Can we talk about dreal? Because I am definitely biased in reading him in a completely different way than I am biased in terms of Maria.
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Post Post #6757 (isolation #772) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:26 pm

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The Zach debacle actually helped in terms of a couple people.
There were some good reactions to that, I think, and some people were simply MIA.

I and Colonel George Pine were defending AMERICA from BIO TERRORISM that night so there were definitely priorities.
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Post Post #6758 (isolation #773) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:27 pm

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And Paddie O'Callaghan.
Let's not forget him.
Him and his flying paddywaggon were instrumental in winning the first few months.
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Post Post #6760 (isolation #774) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:34 pm

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I'm only a glass in.
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Post Post #6762 (isolation #775) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:42 pm

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Pouring another one.

You know what I miss about the First Wine Night?
Sly walking in at the PERFECT TIME.
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Post Post #6764 (isolation #776) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:45 pm

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Sly knows he is missed.

So how's the wife?
Were you just all MY PEOPLE NEED ME and run off to the computer at midnight?
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Post Post #6767 (isolation #777) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:49 pm

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So we're talking like actual sick all the time and not like the Guo Huai of the group? I mean, you DID sign up for in sickness and in health etc but I can definitely see that grating on you over time.
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Post Post #6770 (isolation #778) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:57 pm

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Right. Just making sure. I had bronchitis for two winters in a row and it basically felt like ~1 week of actual sickness followed by ~2-3months of Guo Huai coughing all over the place but being generally ok and normally badass. I can imagine that'd complicate things. Idk though, women can be pretty tough with that stuff. My godson's mother had all sorts of crap with her son but is still down for another kid which is just testament to her iron will despite heart conditions and whatnot etc.

I WAS DOWN TO BUSINESS POSTS AGO
I sort of have a reads list?
I mean, I have a reads list and significant reservations on a few slots.
Let me go grab my ACTUAL WORDS but basically I have three tiers of people which somewhat looks like:

[Pine, Desp]
[dreal, Menno]
[Maria, Gerry]
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Post Post #6772 (isolation #779) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:59 pm

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In post 6640, Andrius wrote:Pine - 2shot Bomb. Bombs don't traditionally function like CHOOSE A NIGHT. Unconfirmable without death. Makes sense with a Vig. The change, arguably, makes the role "better" in the sense that it requires EFFORT and not just sit there and kill whoever shoots you. The fact that Pine has been paranoia-ing on my since DAY ONE despite yesterday's clear ANDY WE WON THE GAME LETS HYDRA SOMETIME is odd. From the Scum POV, he's been setting up a THE PARANOIA FINALLY GOT ME ON ANDY since D1 Otherwise I don't get the reversal.
Maria - Darling, I thought you were town. And then the claim fiasco happened and, at this point, I wouldn't stake the game on you FINAL THREE style. Also been somewhat hesitant to take a firm stance on me the entire game, especially if we exclude bias. She was, however, part of the WINE NIGHT thing which was probably mostly town. Because, unlike people's words, it was not entirely OUT OF GAME since the whole thing started with me and Maria talking about bias and Sly showed up with the best play of the game.
Desp - Miller/Commuter. The VCA was the most darn towny-thing yesterday. I thought he was town most of the game since D1, but I would be 0% surprised here if he were scum given MILLER in a WEAK COP game. The reason why I want to know if dreal had EXTRA SHOTS BESIDES SAD was because this would be SIMPLE if we had missing kills and could be puzzled that Frogger died cop-ing 'the wrong way' onto Scum-Faking-Miller Desp. I think that the VCA is a lot of information. Idk. I wouldn't want him at LyLo out of sheer Miller-policy and the Miller/Commuter is some interesting design. I mean, scum don't shoot millers so the commute is effectively a way to have them avoid a vig. Which is scum-sided. There has been no Godfather of EITHER variety so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a modified BP Godfather who can Commute, since that both counters the Town Vig (?) and the Town Cop (?) and anything else we might have.
dreal - Apparently the town vig who refuses to claim # of shots and night actions. I've thought he's been scum most of the game partly because he has little drive and apparently his scum meta is to sit and wait for the right time to go SUDDENLY IM ACTIVE? Idk I don't acutally know anything about his scum-meta but Pine does so there's that.
Menno - Made a case of Creature D1. Did little to push. Has done little since then besides participate in wagons. Bussing Creature D1 would be something he would do.
Gerry - Anti-town to the extreme given his reliance on claims and jazz to do things in the early-game. I don't trust him around LyLo but there's only one person I would trust in LyLo at this point so there's that.

tl;dr
I am now compromised.
It is time for me to die.
In post 6642, Andrius wrote:Desp has also been, IMO, the most consistently tryharding of the game, with maybe SAD as a second contender.
I thought that was solid townplay for the days that dragged on and we struggled to get any traction whatsoever.
I'm warming up to him in the final three.
In post 6720, Andrius wrote:Which basically leaves me at did the last scum attempt to bus both [Creature, Nacho] or avoid bussing both [Creature, Nacho]?
In post 6721, Andrius wrote:I think I'm ok with a Maria lynch at this point, even if I stand aside as at Losgar.
In post 6722, Andrius wrote:But then I remembered her interaction with Zach at the end of yesterday.
The whole why would she claim, as scum, at the Zach scumclaim since she knows the game will go on?
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Post Post #6773 (isolation #780) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:00 pm

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In post 6771, Pine wrote:I'm pretty sure we lynch Maria and McMenno for the win here, but I'm not sure.

And lolno Gerry isn't scum.
I mean, the VOTING BLOC was formed days ago to just powerlynch the Sly voters; I don't see this being terribly different aside from the Sly voters voting me.
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Post Post #6774 (isolation #781) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:01 pm

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In post 6771, Pine wrote:I'm pretty sure we lynch Maria and McMenno for the win here, but I'm not sure.

And lolno Gerry isn't scum.
I'd love to hear words on GERRY.

I'd be down to see this happen otherwise.
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Post Post #6777 (isolation #782) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:13 pm

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Me? Reading people for VOTING PATTERNS?
DO YOU EVEN KNOW ME?
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Post Post #6778 (isolation #783) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:14 pm

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Look.
I would daykill a good portion of the living players at this point just to never have to play another mafia game with them again.
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Post Post #6779 (isolation #784) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:15 pm

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Then what do you think of the Menno getting a pass for the D1 Creature case?
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Post Post #6781 (isolation #785) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:21 pm

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I know Daytalk is underrated and all, but I'd definitely buss an Encryptor if it meant supertowncred.
See I basically want him dead out of spite.
I don't want us losing this game to GERRY because all he did was buss two scumbuds and scream he did it all himself 110% skill mlg get rekt n00b. Which is 100% consistent with everything he's demonstrated this game.

Like, if I were to throw him in the town bucket for this then I'm basically looking at MARIA.
I shouldn't have to state in words the sinking feeling I get in my heart.
Or I have to go back and shoot the miller out of de facto WHO ELSE COULD IT BE.

Right.
Menno got a blank check for far too long for far too little.

I'm way more glasses in now so SUPER CHATTY ANDY IS HERE.
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Post Post #6783 (isolation #786) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:25 pm

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PINE
I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO LYNCH MARIA
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TOWN/TOWN GAME TOGETHER AFTER THE HEARTBREAK
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Post Post #6786 (isolation #787) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:28 pm

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BAE WE ONLY HAVE TOWN/TOWN GAMES
STRAHD
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Post Post #6788 (isolation #788) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:29 pm

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Ok look.
If I don't end up voting her.
I'll stand aside as at Losgar.
I think that will be amenable.

pedit: Yeah she was off [Creature, Nacho] and on [Sly].
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Post Post #6789 (isolation #789) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:31 pm

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This is the moment when I have flashbacks of SLYSLY and our BROTHERHOOD SWORN IN FRIENDSHIP AND DEAD VAMPIRES

And then the scene cuts to his poor children who have been orphaned by his death and then I look at the wagon and then Maria is there

And its super sunny or something because I hate hot sunny days and I'm just like WHYYYYYYY
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Post Post #6791 (isolation #790) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:34 pm

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Dammit didn't Desp already do VCA?
I don't want to have to put it tons of effort atm.
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Post Post #6794 (isolation #791) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:35 pm

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Dammit Pine.
You make me want to lynch Maria.
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Post Post #6795 (isolation #792) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:36 pm

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Is it DAMMIT or DAMNIT
I don't even
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Post Post #6796 (isolation #793) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:38 pm

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In post 5590, Errantparabola wrote:
Votecount 2.14 - FINAL


SlySly
(8 - LYNCH): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Firebringer, Zachstralkita, MariaR, Ser Arthur Dayne, McMenno
drealmerz7
(3): Andrius, Pine, SlySly
Nachomamma8
(1): gerryoat
Pine
(2): Nachomamma8, Desperado

Not Voting
(1): Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)
Yeah I'm ok lynching the Sly voters.
There's got to be scum on that wagon and I'm literally ok lynching them all.

Also we had that VOTING BLOC and that membership is largely also ok with this.
Maria was on the bloc but there was at least one disagree-er with her membership.

Dam(m/n)it Pine.
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Post Post #6798 (isolation #794) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:41 pm

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In post 6797, Pine wrote:I have not been keeping up with the boozing.
I can tell.
You're still posting intellectually.
I'm mostly heart at this point.
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Post Post #6801 (isolation #795) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:53 pm

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Pine that's like way deeper than needed.
I'm a simple paladin sworn in service to The Light.
Fancy words are beyond me.
That's why you're here.
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Post Post #6802 (isolation #796) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:55 pm

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In post 6800, Pine wrote:SO hit me up with your reasoning, Andy. You've let me do most of the real talking.
WHAT
You want me to REASON?

You're town. This is indisputable.
Desp is likely town because his play has been SOLID and I personally entertain the belief that Spy and Magna would enjoy a Weak Cop and Miller combo because I know them both well enough.
Because I'm EP.


That's tier one.

Then we go to the rest of the players.
Gerry is apparently town according to you. OK, your reasons are recent for me three glasses in.
dreal is town.

Leaves: [Maria, Menno]
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Post Post #6803 (isolation #797) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:57 pm

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I have held a little theory close to my chest regarding Maria but that's not enough at the moment to warrant a bias tier jump.

Menno, sure, had words for Creature D1.
But he's largely inconsequential otherwise and the biggest push that came from his Creature read D1 was actually SAD quoting Menno.
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Post Post #6804 (isolation #798) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:01 pm

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And then there's Andrius.

Was on the D1 Creature wagon with sporadic resistance. I wouldn't count his participation here in favor or against given the struggle he's undergone to sort out Creature D1.

He townread SlySly THE ENTIRE GAME and thus was OFF the SlySly wagon, tragic as it was.

He was on the Nacho wagon but the entire D3 wagon was largely build off the fake guilty from Fire. No one should be written off/written on from this day's events because of the guilty.

D4 Andrius entered on dreal thinking the tracker guilty from SAD was real. Eventually settled on Nos when the dust settled.

Was on Zach because Andrius was pro-lynching Zach from D1 for basically being useless and only cared about diverting people off town wagons and not caring at all about finding the scum.

Andrius has been suspecting dreal for a few days now due to his lack of interest in lynching Andrius, who dreal scumreads.

Andrius has demonstrated considerable apprehension in regards to lynching Maria, flat-out shouting down all attempts to wagon her before today. This stems largely from the "betrayal" that occurred in THE THING Mafia.
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Post Post #6805 (isolation #799) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:02 pm

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You know what I just realized.
I wanted Nos dead early in the game and then someone talked me out of it because Nos suddenly started posting good.
Who was that.
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