~laundry~ FIN

[Desperado]

no, they wouldn't

that's the whole point

[Desperado]

if fro99er had investigated me he would have returned a not town result but lived, confirming my role

[Desperado]

no, read his role again

i am aligned with the town

therefore i would not kill him

[Desperado]

the bong has been packed for an hour already

pine, why are you being so inflexible on the bussing thing? do you really think you, gerry, and mcmenno are all town?

[Desperado]

I mean, whatever happened to people getting a solid read and sticking to it? Why in the hell would I change my mind just because it's an unpopular opinion? Fuck off, that's not how I roll.

because it doesn't make any sense and when nacho flips town your read goes up in flames

we can avoid that!

[Desperado]

i'd be looking at the people who weren't on sly yesterday

[Desperado]

fire was off sly and creature yesterday

[Desperado]

ya

fire claiming protective and then claiming to have not read the thread to know that fro99er claimed cop is objectively the worst thing anyone has done all game

[Desperado]

I also have Desp as Town, with the reservation that if Nacho flips Town, some of the suspicion moves to Desp. A lot of the day-end shenanigans with Creature were quirky behavior from both of them, but I was TRing Desp and SRing Nacho before it, so I stuck with my gut.

this is what i mean by you being inflexible

nacho flipping town shouldnt shift any suspicion towards me at all,

it should be a wake up call that your interpretation of what happened is wrong

especially if you are townreading me right now

[Desperado]

no pine, if nacho flips town that will mean that there will be three confirmed town who will have done the thing you're suggesting is scummy, so...maybe it isn't scummy????

maybe you're just wrong and the scum bussed early, not late??

or....maybe you're just scum who's been coasting on the threat of a really awesome PR all game????

[Desperado]

nah, dreal wagon is horseshit

[Desperado]

unvote
vote: pine

[Desperado]

pine casts self-meta!






it failed.

[Desperado]

it's not overrated if it's a 5 man team, the person getting bussed is a goon, and you wouldn't have a good reason to not be scumreading creature after he obvscummed the thread up

[Desperado]

i'm actually just demanding that you admit that even if you are town who legitimately scumread creature, there is no way all three of you are town

[Desperado]

even if scum did start with 5 it's currently 12v4...the scum do not have nearly as much of a voice as you're implying

who are the scum who derailed your sly lynch?

[Desperado]

ok almost there

why do sly or andrius need to die today?

[Desperado]

like, it is scum who are trying so desperately to secure a mislynch

they lost 1 on D1, they are the ones invested in the effort to make sure it doesn't happenon D2

I know that's what I'd be doing if I were scum, working hard hard hard on D2 to secure a ML - who fits into that description? who is remaining active and postive through the slog, they are the more likely scum

andrius, slysly, SAD, pine even

andrius and slysly have not been voting the major wagons (nacho and sly) for the majority of the day

[Desperado]

I don't know WTF desperado is doing

I swear most of the posts I see from him when I'm skimming are absolutely empty or echos of others' posts

are you fucking high bro

i'm one of the few people with an independent thought process in this game.....

[Desperado]

because they know they look like shitscum if nacho flips town and of course they're not going to push sly!

ok but you just said the scum have been scrambling to push a mislynch all day

and your scumreads have demonstrably not done that

so???????

[Desperado]

i need to analyze the game better

while you are admitting to not even reading the game

i'm done here

[Desperado]

nah, dreal wagon is horseshit

but ya, i'm just sittin over here copying other people's papers and coasting and shit

[Desperado]

blow it out your ass, dreal

[Desperado]

hey sad slysly is l-2 now and i bet tammy will vote with toog

so how about we just get on this shit??

[Desperado]

i think he's town

[Desperado]

this fuckin guy

[Desperado]

and there's the lock

[Desperado]

In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry

Itshappening.gif

vote: gerry

[Desperado]

look at that damn spoiler.

who pushed him more than me?

literally half of those posts are you saying nacho is scum but so and so is more scum

[Desperado]

look at that damn spoiler.

who pushed him more than me?

literally half of those posts are you saying nacho is scum but so and so is more scum

This is a lie lmfao. Please lynch this

im not going to get in to a debate on alternative facts

your posts do indeed say what I said they say

[Desperado]

except Gerry is now claiming that he was the primary driver of the nacho wagon, which is what I'm taking issue with

If you all just decided to lynch maria today, I wouldn't be able to call myself the main driver even tho I've supported her lynch from the word go.

[Desperado]

Votecount 2.14 - FINAL

SlySly

(8 - LYNCH): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Firebringer, Zachstralkita, MariaR, Ser Arthur Dayne, McMenno

drealmerz7

(3): Andrius, Pine, SlySly

Nachomamma8

(1): gerryoat

Pine

(2): Nachomamma8, Desperado

Not Voting

(1): Tammy

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

unvote
Vote: nosferatu

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

[Desperado]

wow that quote failed completely

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

vote: nosferatu

[Desperado]

But Gerry isn't on it..

Ya he's probably town lol

As little sense as that makes

[Desperado]

Simply existing on a wagon doesn't mean anything gerry

[Desperado]

Like, "player X hasn't done shit but has been on the right wagons" is a pretty good definition for good scum play

[Desperado]

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

Or y'know you could just join the drealmerz wagon where we already have people.

I'm good where I'm at right now.

[Desperado]

like...pine's case is soooo shitty horrible awful of a case

if he did that on my HS, he'd be lynched in an instant because it's so blatantly scummy and shitty - you can't get away with that shit where I'm used to playing, and that it's actually accepted as something that has any sort of merit hurts my fucking head

I've seen you say this more than once and I think you need to check that shit at the door man. We aren't at your homesite any more. The meta here is different. Push your case by all means but routinely referencing how some other group of people would all agree with you that something is obviously scummy gets you nowhere and alienates the people you are actually playing this game with.

[Desperado]

\

Votecount 2.3

I did laundry again today. It was raining, so I had to carry all of the laundry that I normally carry with two arms with one arm, and hold my umbrella in the other arm, shielding my clothes from the rain. Because even though you can get to most places under overhangs that have been built with the buildings, for SOME REASON that doesn't exist for the way between my building and the laundry room.

I'm convinced that laundry here is an experiment carried out by my university to see how much emotional torture a human spirit can take before snapping and physically attacking the innocent laundry appliances.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

Pine

(4): MariaR, Nachomamma8, Nosferatu, Toogeloo

Desperado

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, SlySly, Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Firebringer V/LA until Tuesday.

Votecount 2.7

Sometimes I wear clothes of indeterminate gender for the laundrogynous look.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

SlySly

(4): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu

Pine

(2): Nachomamma8, MariaR

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius, SlySly

Desperado

(1): drealmerz7

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(1): Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.8

I've finally located a place of wifi! Beep beep!
Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Nachomamma8

(5): Firebringer, Pine, McMenno, gerryoat, Tammy

SlySly

(5): Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius, SlySly, Desperado

Andrius

(1): MariaR

Pine

(1): Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(0):

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Prodding Nachomamma8.

dont really do VCA but i think these are telling

Ya, they are. So why do you think I'm scum again?

[Desperado]

Like, if there are five scum there are absolutely two on that Sly wagon, and Zach is an all town counter-counter

[Desperado]

And if there are only four scum I bet they're both still on that Sly wagon

[Desperado]

How many is it to lynch?

With 11, 6.

{Me, Desperado, Maria, Andrius, Firebringer, Pine} voting bloc would be good. Majority to agree to a lynch. I doubt there's more than 1 scum in here, if any.

the only one i'm not ready to write off is maria

[Desperado]

take your blocks and shove them up your asses, please

they're fucking horrible ways to play

you either have the influence and good arguments and get votes backing you up, or you don't

contriving a block of vapid stances is a fucking joke and a shit thing to try and do if you're town

Blocs are great, and you're only mad because you're going to get lynched.

Dreal, you're wrong. Just straight up 100% wrong.

Andy, we aren't lynching Dreal.

[Desperado]

@Bloc: I propose that Nos is the lynch for today. I'm not 100% on him, but my gut says go for it.

Besides, we seem not to have a vig and there's no fucking way he should get to LYLO.

PEdit: lol, drealmerz just tripping over himself to discredit anyone now. Dude, the vote isn't even on you right now. We're on Nos.
PEdit2: Touché, Paladin Bro

SAD said he got lost a shot on his BP and there's no evidence of an SK, pretty sure that's a vig?

[Desperado]

My lynch preferences in order:

Gerry
Nos
Dreamz
Mcmenno
Zach

I wouldn't put it past Nacho to have been coaching Gerry day 1, esp with the way their interaction went down.

Nos
Zach (the game might just end right here)
Dreal
McMenno
Gerry

[Desperado]

am out until someone who actually knows how to play wants to engage me

why the fuck would anyone want to engage you?

you spend all of your time telling everyone else how fucking shit they are at this game

[Desperado]

like i spent an inordinate amount of time in mystic mafia trying to help and engage you

and you just scumread me for it

so blow it out your ass

[Desperado]

dreal im pretty sure you've made at least one post lamenting how garbage this site is compared to where you come from in every game we've played the last couple months

[Desperado]

like i could go back and look but i dont really care that much

especially when we both know that that is your attitude

[Desperado]

except I didn't want to engage in mystic

and I made that clear

and yet you kept persisting - to me that is scummy "oh he wants left alone WELL I'MA KEEP GIONG AT HIM"

[Desperado]

stop being useless and help me lynch someone who could actually be scum

like the people on that shitty slysly wagon you ended up on

[Desperado]

I don't want to vote dreal when there are other people who fit the scum profile that I'm not townreading

[Desperado]

brb conducting VCA analysis

[Desperado]

Votecount 1.1

-WITNESS TESTIMONY: TREE-

LAWYER 1: I see. And what was this college student doing this late at night?

LAWYER 2: Objection, Your Honor! This question calls for speculative testimony!

LAWYER 1: Your Honor, this tree is an expert witness on laundry room behavior! It has spent its entire life in front of that laundry room, and has decades of experience on laundry-based activities. In fact, I expect that any opinion given by this honorable tree is of a professional opinion!

JUDGE: Objection overruled. Proceed, Madame Tree.

Desperado

(3):

SlySly

, Andrius, Pine

gerryoat

(2): Firebringer,

Fro99er

Pine

(2): Ser Arthur Dayne, MariaR

Creature

(1): Zachstralkita

Nachomamma8

(1):

Tammy

Ser Arthur Dayne

(1): Aeronaut

Tammy

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(6): drealmerz7, Nosferatu,

Toogeloo

, gerryoat,

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.3

-commercial break-

ANNOUNCER: Hey, you! Does your game stink?

FRO99ER

: EP THIS GAME STINKS SO MUCH I NEED NOSE JAMMER!
ANNOUNCER: Then maybe you need NOSE JAMMER!

NOSE JAMMER! IN STORES NEAR YOU!

Desperado

(4):

SlySly

, Andrius, Pine, drealmerz7

Firebringer

(2): Nosferatu, Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne

(2): Aeronaut,

Fro99er

Creature

(1): Zachstralkita

gerryoat

(1): Firebringer

Nachomamma8

(1):

Tammy

Pine

(1): MariaR

Tammy

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(4):

Toogeloo

, gerryoat,

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.4

-And we're back, and it seems we haven't missed much of the action-

LAWYER, STANDING ON TABLE: Did you or did you not separate your whites and reds?!
OTHER LAWYER: Objection, your honor! Opposing counsel is clearly INSANE!
JUDGE, ALSO STANDING ON TABLE: Overruled! Continue, prosecution!
WITNESS, OPENLY SOBBING: Fuck you and fuck your law degree! I had the wash cycle on COLD!

-Like we said, haven't missed much-

Ser Arthur Dayne

(6): Aeronaut,

Fro99er

, Pine, Andrius, drealmerz7,

SlySly

Firebringer

(2): Nosferatu, Ser Arthur Dayne

Creature

(1): Zachstralkita

gerryoat

(1): Firebringer

Nachomamma8

(1):

Tammy

Pine

(1): MariaR

Tammy

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(4):

Toogeloo

, gerryoat,

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.5

-The Ten Commandments of Laundry Mafia-

1. Do not accuse the mod of not being fine.
2. Do not accuse the mod of not being upstanding.

As of this Votecount,

Nachomamma8

has been modkilled.
And blacklisted.
And banned from sitechat

(At least I'm still noble.)

Ser Arthur Dayne

(6): Aeronaut,

Fro99er

, Pine, Andrius, drealmerz7,

SlySly

drealmerz7

(2): Zachstralkita, MariaR

Firebringer

(2): Nosferatu, Ser Arthur Dayne

gerryoat

(1): Firebringer

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Nachomamma8

(1):

Tammy

Pine

(1):

Toogeloo

Not Voting

(3): gerryoat,

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.6

I wish I had some flavor to contribute, but I don't.
Just pretend one of

Toogeloo

's images is here instead.
Also everyone be nice, smooch

Ser Arthur Dayne

(7): Aeronaut,

Fro99er

, Pine, Andrius, drealmerz7,

SlySly

, gerryoat

drealmerz7

(2): Zachstralkita, MariaR

Firebringer

(2): Nosferatu, Ser Arthur Dayne

Fro99er

(1):

Tammy

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Pine

(1):

Toogeloo

Tammy

(1): Firebringer

Not Voting

(2):

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.7

There's nothing as vexing as laundry is,
If you don't believe me-- ask Andrius.
And when his name you say,
Use an "AH" sound, not "A".
For a limerick with no rhyme is quandary-ous.

Ser Arthur Dayne

(7): Aeronaut, Pine, Andrius, drealmerz7,

SlySly

, gerryoat,

Fro99er

Fro99er

(3):

Tammy

, Desperado, Ser Arthur Dayne

drealmerz7

(2): Zachstralkita, MariaR

Firebringer

(1): Nosferatu

Pine

(1):

Toogeloo

Tammy

(1): Firebringer

Not Voting

(2):

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

HEADS UP! I will be without laptop access from tonight until Sunday. I have my phone so don't worry, I'll be here. Votecounts may not be as frequent as you want, but I'll get at least 1 a day out, hopefully 2.

Votecount 1.8

-an acrostic poem-

L- laundry!
A- andrius,
U- underwear, (

SlySly

)
N-

Nachomamma8

,
D- desperado,
R- rockin'
Y- your
world!

Ser Arthur Dayne

(7): Aeronaut, Pine, Andrius, drealmerz7,

SlySly

, gerryoat,

Toogeloo

drealmerz7

(2): Zachstralkita, MariaR

Fro99er

(2): Desperado, Ser Arthur Dayne

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Firebringer

(1): Nosferatu

Zachstralkita

(1):

Fro99er

Not Voting

(3):

Creature

,

Nachomamma8

,

Tammy

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Andrius is V/LA Saturday through Sunday.

Votecount 1.9

"I have to do the laundry today... I fucking hate laundry."

-my roommate, today

Andrius

(4): Ser Arthur Dayne,

Toogeloo

,

Nachomamma8

,

Fro99er

Ser Arthur Dayne

(4): Aeronaut, Pine, drealmerz7, gerryoat

Nosferatu

(2): Andrius, Firebringer

Desperado

(1): MariaR

Fro99er

(1): Zachstalkita

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

Tammy

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(3):

Creature

,

Tammy

, Nosferatu

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Aeronaut long overdue for a prod, and it's happening.

Votecount 1.9

-an interview with EP's towels, who are all the same color and size-

EP: So, towels. Why are you salmon colored?
TOWEL 1: What the fuck kind of question is that? I was made like this.
EP: Did you know that one of you got into the whites load and stained my socks?
TOWEL 4: Are you actually trying to put that on us? You were the one who put us there.
EP: Unlikely. I always pay attention to sorting.
TOWEL 2: Yeah, sure. I guess one of us grew legs and walked into the other load then.
EP: Okay, that's fair. Sorry.
TOWEL 3: Go to hell.

Andrius

(3): Ser Arthur Dayne,

Toogeloo

,

Fro99er

Desperado

(3): MariaR, gerryoat, Firebringer

Ser Arthur Dayne

(3): Aeronaut, Pine, drealmerz7

gerryoat

(2): Desperado,

Nachomamma8

Nosferatu

(1): Andrius

Fro99er

(1): Zachstalkita

Tammy

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(3):

Creature

,

Tammy

, Nosferatu

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Searching for a replacement for Aeronaut.

Votecount 1.11

that was a great song. and now we have a treat for you, listeners. a classic 70s hit brought to you by none other than ser arthur dayne and his doubleposting. don't dance too hard on your commute to work.

Spoiler: KC & The Sunshine Band

That's the way

I like it

gerryoat

(3): Desperado,

Nachomamma8

,

Toogeloo

Ser Arthur Dayne

(3): McMenno, Pine, drealmerz7

Desperado

(2): gerryoat, Firebringer

drealmerz7

(2): Ser Arthur Dayne,

Fro99er

Fro99er

(1): Zachstralkita

Nosferatu

(1): Andrius

Tammy

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(4):

Creature

,

Tammy

, Nosferatu, MariaR

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.12

-upon which EP discovers that Andrius, the Baker, has actually been breadcrumbing something incredibly important-

Spoiler: exposed

Errantparabola

is the

best

mod

ever

I love

EP

more than

everyone

else

Firebringer

(4):

Fro99er

, MariaR, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Toogeloo

gerryoat

(4): Desperado,

Nachomamma8

,

Creature

, Andrius

Ser Arthur Dayne

(3): McMenno, Pine, drealmerz7

Andrius

(1): Firebringer

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Fro99er

(1): Zachstralkita

Tammy

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

, Nosferatu

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.13

-a sign recently found in the laundry room-

Firebringer

(4):

Fro99er

, MariaR, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Toogeloo

gerryoat

(4): Desperado,

Nachomamma8

,

Creature

, Andrius

Ser Arthur Dayne

(2): Pine, drealmerz7

Andrius

(1): Firebringer

Creature

(1): McMenno

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Fro99er

(1): Zachstralkita

Tammy

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

, Nosferatu

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.14

Fun fact: I did the laundry two days ago, and some of my clothes are still damp. I have been airdrying them in various locations that I have wiped down inside my dorm but the process is long and arduous. I will not put them back in the dryer and pay more money because that means I will have lost against those greedy capitalist bastards running the university

Andrius

(4): Firebringer, Zachstralkita, Desperado, Nosferatu

Firebringer

(4): MariaR, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Toogeloo

,

Fro99er

gerryoat

(3):

Nachomamma8

,

Creature

, Andrius

Ser Arthur Dayne

(2): Pine, drealmerz7

Creature

(1): McMenno

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Tammy

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Gerryoat,

Nachomamma8

, and Pine are being prodded.

Creature

will also be prodded if he does not post in the next 10 minutes.

Votecount 1.15

In this votecount, EP makes the observation that "Ser Arthur Dayne" shares all but one letter with "laundry"

gerryoat

(7):

Nachomamma8

,

Creature

, Andrius,

SlySly

, Desperado,

Toogeloo

, drealmerz7

Andrius

(3): Zachstralkita, Nosferatu,

Fro99er

Creature

(2): McMenno, Ser Arthur Dayne

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Firebringer

(1): MariaR

Ser Arthur Dayne

(1): Pine

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

, gerryoat
17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.16

i don't think errant parabola is one to frequent clubs tbh.

I didn't think so either.

I've been 100% #exposed.

Also, if anyone wants to add me on Overwatch, I play on PC. Skiive#1634

Creature

(6): McMenno, Firebringer, Pine, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

SlySly

SlySly

(3): Zachstralkita, Desperado, drealmerz7

gerryoat

(2):

Nachomamma8

,

Toogeloo

Andrius

(1): Nosferatu

Pine

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(4): MariaR,

Tammy

,

Fro99er

, Andrius
17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.16

Spoiler: Depiction of the current state of the LAUNDRY

I kind of want to do this DnD thing

Creature

(6): McMenno, Firebringer, Pine, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

SlySly

gerryoat

(3):

Nachomamma8

,

Toogeloo

, MariaR

SlySly

(2): Zachstralkita, drealmerz7

Andrius

(1): Nosferatu

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Pine

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(3):

Tammy

,

Fro99er

, Andrius
17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.17

Spoiler: Depiction of the current state of the LAUNDRY + DUNNSTRAL

Can you spot the difference?

Creature

(5): McMenno, Pine, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

SlySly

gerryoat

(3):

Nachomamma8

,

Toogeloo

, Desperado

Andrius

(2): Nosferatu, Zachstralkita

SlySly

(1): drealmerz7

Nachomamma8

(1): Firebringer

Pine

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(4):

Tammy

, Andrius, MariaR,

Fro99er

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.18

RED, THE COLOR OF MY TOWEL
BLACK, THE COLOR OF MY SOCK

Creature

(5): McMenno, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

Fro99er

, MariaR

MariaR

(3): Pine, drealmerz7, Desperado

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius,

SlySly

,

Creature

gerryoat

(2):

Nachomamma8

,

Toogeloo

Andrius

(2): Nosferatu, Zachstralkita

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

17 players, 9 majority.

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Votecount 1.19

Okay, I swear I had flavor planned for this VC a few hours ago, but I've totally forgotten it.

Uh.... have an image?

Creature

(5): McMenno, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

Fro99er

, MariaR

gerryoat

(3):

Nachomamma8

,

Toogeloo

, drealmerz7

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius,

SlySly

,

Creature

Andrius

(2): Nosferatu, Zachstralkita

MariaR

(2): Pine, Desperado

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.20

My friend's washing machine was broken, so apparently he had to spend 2 hours moving all of the laundry to someone else's place and do the laundry there. Just thought I would share that.

I feel like I notice and remember conversations about laundry more than before this game.

Creature

(5): McMenno, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

Fro99er

, MariaR

Andrius

(2): Nosferatu, Zachstralkita

gerryoat

(2):

Nachomamma8

, Andrius

MariaR

(2): Pine, Desperado

SlySly

(2):

Toogeloo

, drealmerz7

Zachstralkita

(2):

SlySly

,

Creature

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.21

No flavor, because I'm busy. As you were, everybody.

Creature

(5): McMenno, Ser Arthur Dayne, gerryoat,

Fro99er

, MariaR

gerryoat

(4):

Nachomamma8

, Andrius, Desperado,

Toogeloo

Zachstralkita

(2):

SlySly

,

Creature

Andrius

(1): Zachstralkita

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

MariaR

(1): Pine

SlySly

(1): drealmerz7

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

, Nosferatu
17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.22

No you were busy as flavor, because I'm everybody.

SlySly

(5): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita,

Fro99er

,

Toogeloo

Creature

(3): McMenno, gerryoat, MariaR

gerryoat

(3):

Nachomamma8

, Andrius, Desperado

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

MariaR

(1): Pine

Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(3):

Tammy

, Nosferatu,

SlySly

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.23

I regret trying to put flavor in every votecount. Just these 3 votecounts doing jack shit is such a relief.

SlySly

(6): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita,

Fro99er

,

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu

Creature

(3): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine

gerryoat

(3):

Nachomamma8

, Andrius, Desperado

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Pine

(1): MariaR

Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

,

SlySly

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.24

-andrius steps up to the plate-

"Laundry, oh laundry,
how long will you take to dry?
Sleep is calling me."

Creature

(5): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Ser Arthur Dayne

SlySly

(5): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita,

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2):

Nachomamma8

, Desperado

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(3):

Tammy

,

SlySly

,

Fro99er

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.25

-andrius steps up to the plate once more-

"Laundry, oh laundry,
why must my reds bleed so much?
All my socks are pink."

(Thanks, SAD, for pointing out my mistake. I mixed up you and Desp.
I hope the VC is correct now.)

Creature

(5): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius,

Nachomamma8

SlySly

(5): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(3):

Toogeloo

,

SlySly

, Desperado

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

,

Fro99er

17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius,

Nachomamma8

, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Tammy

,

Fro99er

, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2):

Toogeloo

,

SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

Votecount 2.1

https://goo.gl/forms/NAerUQoMa2jNAZyw1

More people should take the quiz
Only 3 responses! Currently Nacho is in the lead.

MariaR

(2): Pine, Desperado

Nachomamma8

(2): Firebringer, gerryoat

Pine

(2): MariaR,

Nachomamma8

Desperado

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(7): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita,

SlySly

, Nosferatu, McMenno,

Toogeloo

,

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.2

LAUNDRY QUIZ RESULTS

The average score was 5.83/17.
The median score was 5/17.
The lowest score was 3, and the highest score was 10.

Our top scores were...
NACHO WITH 7 POINTS!
PINE WITH 7 POINTS!
AND MCMENNO WITH A GODLY SCORE OF 10 POINTS!
Congrats McMenno!

(2 points) Laundry: Y/N?

(4 people answered Y, 1 person answered all of the above.

Only 1 person got the correct answer, N.

)

(1 point) How much does it cost for EP to do the laundry?

(

4 people correctly answered "depends on the dry cycles,"

and 2 people incorrectly answered "depends on the type of currency used."

(3 points) Who is EP's favorite scummer?

(5 people answered "mykonian." Only 1 answered "Some other than mykonian? Perhaps?"

The correct answer was, in fact, "Hmmm.... mykonian."

)

(3 points) Who is your favorite scummer?

(

2 people answered "scummers in general are an unsavory lot" and 1 person answered "Perhaps it's mykonian?" Both of these answers were accepted as correct.

2 people answered "Errantparabola!" Unfortunately, flattery will get you nowhere. The remaining person chose not to answer, seemingly in protest at my presumptuous question.)

(2 points) Who will win this game?

(

1 person answered "mafia is a loss, no matter the outcome," and 2 people answered "Fate, the concept. Not the scummer." Both were accepted.

2 people incorrectly answered "Errantparabola!" and 1 person incorrectly answered "...mmmmykonian.")

(4 points) What type is EP's favorite article of clothing?

(

3 people correctly said "beanie."

2 people incorrectly answered "cardigan," althought that was a good answer. 1 person incorrectly answered "tie.")

(2 points) Where does EP live?

(3 people incorrectly guessed "EP doesn't live, EP rocks out." 1 person said "On the edge," 1 person said "UC Berkeley,"

but only 1 person got it correct with the answer of "In the moment."

)

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

MariaR

(2): Desperado, Nosferatu

Pine

(2): MariaR,

Nachomamma8

Desperado

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(5): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita,

SlySly

,

Toogeloo

,

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Firebringer V/LA until Tuesday.

Votecount 2.3

I did laundry again today. It was raining, so I had to carry all of the laundry that I normally carry with two arms with one arm, and hold my umbrella in the other arm, shielding my clothes from the rain. Because even though you can get to most places under overhangs that have been built with the buildings, for SOME REASON that doesn't exist for the way between my building and the laundry room.

I'm convinced that laundry here is an experiment carried out by my university to see how much emotional torture a human spirit can take before snapping and physically attacking the innocent laundry appliances.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

Pine

(4): MariaR,

Nachomamma8

, Nosferatu,

Toogeloo

Desperado

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita,

SlySly

,

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Firebringer V/LA until Tuesday.

Votecount 2.4

The votes are unchanged, so no flavor for you. You don't deserve that shit.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

Pine

(4): MariaR,

Nachomamma8

, Nosferatu,

Toogeloo

Desperado

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita,

SlySly

,

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Firebringer V/LA until Tuesday.

Votecount 2.5

The bright side about yesterday's laundry excursion is that the dryer wasn't bullshit.
Thank god. It was because I paid for an extra dry cycle.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

Pine

(4): MariaR,

Nachomamma8

, Nosferatu,

Toogeloo

Desperado

(1): drealmerz7

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

SlySly

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(3): Zachstralkita,

SlySly

,

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Firebringer V/LA until Tuesday.

Votecount 2.6

I'd like to nominate Zachstralkita and drealmerz7 for the

Most Annoying Usernames to type out in Votecounts

Scummies.
I mistype them like every goddamn time, good god.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

Pine

(3):

Nachomamma8

, Nosferatu,

Toogeloo

SlySly

(2): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius, MariaR

Desperado

(1): drealmerz7

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(2):

SlySly

,

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.7

Sometimes I wear clothes of indeterminate gender for the laundrogynous look.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

SlySly

(4): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita,

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu

Pine

(2):

Nachomamma8

, MariaR

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius,

SlySly

Desperado

(1): drealmerz7

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.8

I've finally located a place of wifi! Beep beep!
Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Nachomamma8

(5): Firebringer, Pine, McMenno, gerryoat,

Tammy

SlySly

(5): Zachstralkita,

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius,

SlySly

, Desperado

Andrius

(1): MariaR

Pine

(1):

Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(0):

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Prodding

Nachomamma8

.

Votecount 2.9

A desk, with a single sheet of paper on it.
Ambient phone calls and typing noises in the background.

Votecount 2.9

, the paper reads.
The first section.

Flavor.

EP looks at it.
Then looks at the thousands and thousands of unfilled votecounts in a large pile next to the paper.
"Next time," EP says, leaving the flavor section blank once again.
"Next time for sure."

SlySly

(5):

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(4): Andrius,

SlySly

, Desperado, MariaR

Nachomamma8

(3): Pine, McMenno, gerryoat

Pine

(1):

Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

, Zachstralkita

15 players, 8 majority.

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Votecount 2.10

-Recently found in the journals of Shakespeare himself-

Shall I compare thee to a laundry chore?
Thou art more lovely and more bearable.
And laundry is a task that I abhor;
For laundry's nothing more than terrible.

SlySly

(5):

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer

Nachomamma8

(3): Pine, McMenno, gerryoat

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius,

SlySly

, Desperado

Pine

(2):

Nachomamma8

, MariaR

Not Voting

(2):

Tammy

, Zachstralkita

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.11

Hi.

SlySly

(6):

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

Nachomamma8

(4): Pine, McMenno, gerryoat, Andrius

Zachstralkita

(3):

SlySly

, Desperado, MariaR

Pine

(1):

Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.12

Achoo!

SlySly

(6):

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

Nachomamma8

(3): Pine, McMenno, Andrius

Zachstralkita

(2):

SlySly

, Desperado

Pine

(2):

Nachomamma8

, MariaR

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Nosferatu is V/LA until... today, I guess. Good luck on your ACT.

@Mod if a weak role visited a miller would the weak role die?

Worth a shit

If weak roles target someone who is aligned with the Town, they will not die.

edit: OHHHHHHHHHH PAGETOP HYPE

Votecount 2.13

Betting pool for how Nos did on ACT? My guess is 33. I have faith.

SlySly

(5):

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

drealmerz7

(3): Andrius, Pine, Ser Arthur Dayne

Pine

(3):

Nachomamma8

, MariaR, Desperado

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Nachomamma8

(1): McMenno

Zachstralkita

(1):

SlySly

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 2.14 - FINAL

SlySly

(8 - LYNCH):

Toogeloo

, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Firebringer, Zachstralkita, MariaR, Ser Arthur Dayne, McMenno

drealmerz7

(3): Andrius, Pine,

SlySly

Nachomamma8

(1): gerryoat

Pine

(2):

Nachomamma8

, Desperado

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Votecount 3.2 - FINAL

Nachomamma8

(7 - LYNCH): McMenno, Firebringer, Nosferatu,

Toogeloo

, Pine, Andrius, Ser Arthur Dayne

McMenno

(1): Zachstralkita

Ser Arthur Dayne

(1): drealmerz7

Not Voting

(4): Desperado, MariaR, gerryoat,

Nachomamma8

[Desperado]

1.6...SAD L-2 with Creature and Nacho both not voting. McMenno-Fro99er-Pine-Andrius-Dreal-SlySly-gerry. Definitely possible this was an all town on town RVS wagon with zach, maria, and nos all off the wagon.

1.12...Desperado-Nacho-Creature-Andrius on gerry. Makes me feel good about Andrius, definitely don't see 3/4 and probably not 3/5 scum voting in succession.

1.15...Gerry wagon is now Nacho-Creature-Andrius-SlySly-Desperado-Toogeloo-dreal and zach and nos are 1/2 on an andrius counterwagon. I don't understand the purpose of a hard cross bus here between Nacho and gerry when Creature is sitting there being obvscum and everyone already realizing it because McMenno has already started building his case. Gerry's town.

1.16...Creature wagon appears. McMenno-Fire-Pine-SAD-gerry-SlySly, SlySly counter wagon is zach-desperado-drealmerz right now. I do not see any scum on that initial Creature wagon.

1.20...Creature wagon still strong at 5, nos/zach on Andrius, Nacho/Andrius on gerry. Really leaning towards nos/zach here given...

1.23...The Sly wagon reaches its peak at dreal-SAD-zach-fro99er-toog-nos. Zach and Nos both jump from a 2 man Andrius wagon to the SlySly counterwagon while Creature's wagon starts to erode.

1.24...Creature and SlySly tied at 5, McMenno-gerry-pine-Andrius-SAD vs dreal-zach-toog-nos-maria. This is THE vote count, in my opinion. Everyone on Creature was town and there are four unflipped players on the Sly counter. If we started 13v4 the last two scum are almost certainly in {deal, zach, nos, maria}.

[Desperado]

2.2...Nacho wagon builds early with Fire-gerry-pine-mcmenno. At the time I had Nacho as town so this gerry-pine-mcmenno bloc felt sketchy but going 2/2 simply doesn't make sense. Bussing Creature, sure. But Nacho is a strong player, he had an incredibly important role, and the Tammy is the queen of waffling so her being suspicious of Nacho shouldn't have been enough to make them buss.

2.3...Pine counterwagon builds, maria-nacho-nos-toog. {Maria, Nos} has one scum.

2.7...No luck on Pine so now the SlySly counter makes a comeback, SAD-Zach-Toog-Nos. I feel like a broken record here but Zach and Nos have both been consistently countering scum wagons with SlySly. If there's 4 scum there is definitely one in {Zach, Nos}, if there are 5 then they are both scum.

2.8...Nacho and Sly tied at 5, Fire-Pine-McMenno-gerry-Tammy vs zach-toog-nos-dreal-SAD. I still do not understand why Toog was anywhere near this wagon...SlySly didn't fit the profile he'd been building AND his mason partner was pushing Nacho. Four unflipped players here with dreal/zach/nos all repeats from the D1 counter to Creature. SAD was on Creature that time.

2.9...Zach overtakes Nacho with andrius-slysly-desperado-maria. Fire switches from Nacho to SlySly, Zach unvotes. Need to check the context on this one.

2.11...Zach goes back to SlySly with Pine-McMenno-gerry-Andrius all sticky on the Nacho wagon and SlySly-Desp-Maria on Zach. The SlySly wagon is now Toog-nos-dreal-SAD-Fire-Zach and the evidence continues to mount.

[Desperado]

Pine
McMenno
Gerry
Firebringer
Andrius

SAD
dreal

----------- <---- Line of Lynchability

Maria

Zach
Nos

[Desperado]

@ dreal your VCA is shit

[Desperado]

ohya mcmenno is a good lynch at this point too

no

no he isnt

that died when nacho flipped scum

[Desperado]

like the most important thing there is glossed over and devalued as to try to not draw attention or ACTUAL meaningful memories from:

you fought with Tammy - like a scumfuck from hell that made it obvious that either your or slysly were scum (or tammy maybe but that wasn't likely) - slysly is flipped town, you should be the next obvious lynch

so just so i'm clear about this

your d1 and d2 play was admittedly garbage because you arent good in that setting

but you are still clinging to a d1 read?

whatsupwiththat.gif

[Desperado]

ok well everything you said in your VCA of pine was not good

being voted by scum...who cares

not being on a town wagon...not scummy.

being on an alternative wagon that he hopes to push in the future...is how a townie handles a townread being wagoned.

[Desperado]

VOTE: pine

so...did you read my VCA posts? Do you have any fucking thoughts on them?

I'm the only person in the entire world who gives a shit what you have to say right now. Take the opportunity or go sit in a corner while we try to solve the game.

[Desperado]

@ EP: I tried to but you had a spoiler somewhere in your VCs and I couldn't be fucked to find out where it was.

[Desperado]

Nos is L-1 btw

[Desperado]

I like your 1.23 point more than any of your assertations with the VCA but will reflect on it more

seems naive in places (scum not voting in succession, and a couple points that leave your pool likely not very inaccurate)

thinking that three scum are unlikely to vote in a row isn't naive.

[Desperado]

so are you saying that scum are likely to vote three in a row or...????

[Desperado]

like im not saying it's 100%, but i don't think nacho creature and andy all piled on gerry's antitown shit in succession like that.

[Desperado]

if I had to pick a team right now it'd be

maria, SAD, pine, andrius

what the fuck are you talking about dude

[Desperado]

but it doesn't mean they wouldn't and it's not any foundation for an argument against them all being scum

if you just make that assumption, well, it's naive and could get you in to trouble more than be helpful, I think

lol

"I don't think X is likely" already includes weighing it against the possibility that it did happen.

You are just saying words blahblahblah

Please explain why your team has four fucking people on it

[Desperado]

still rather not start with maria, she wasn't counterwagoning as aggressively as zach and nos were and if she is scum i think tammy's reticence re: nacho would have been a pretty big issue to the entire team so i don't see her making the mistake she did

[Desperado]

nos is l-1 again

he should probably claim in his next post

[Desperado]

2 or 3

leaning towards 2 if scum didnt bus creature

[Desperado]

and your results were....

????????

haha wtf

[Desperado]

goon, role cop, encryptor, roleblocker?

[Desperado]

Does 2 shot rolecop sound reasonable with gunsmith weak cop and masons...

Not that those are particularly powerful roles..

fire isn't a full gunsmith, he gave SAD a vest

[Desperado]

fire and gerry are both totally scum rolecop targets

[Desperado]

andrius, nacho, sad, one of the masons n2 given how many people expressed uncertainty about them

[Desperado]

the miller claim???

[Desperado]

@ Pine

by acting completely antitown and keeping himself lynchable?

bold strategy

[Desperado]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Desperado]

partner is still zach tbh

[Desperado]

Does 2 shot rolecop sound reasonable with gunsmith weak cop and masons...

Not that those are particularly powerful roles..

Well GS is but yea I don't feel good about that claim

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Desperado]

Still waiting to see why SAD thinks he ccs me

SAD has had ADD all game, he'll probably have forgotten about this by the time day breaks tomorrow

[Desperado]

no, we're not mass claiming in twilight lol

[Desperado]

ya pine really mind controlled me in to doing an in depth vca that directly pointed to nos scum

and iirc everyone was too busy barfing all over themselves over dreal while i was doing that

then suddenly nos got lynched

but no, pine is the puppet master

[Desperado]

someone plz vig zach

[Desperado]

vote: zachstralkita

[Desperado]

Pine (2): McMenno, Zachstralkita

hahahahaha

be more obvscum zach

[Desperado]

remember d1 when we produced 200 pages for no reason and then lynched scum by accident?

hahahahahahahahahahaha what a long time ago that must seem like for scum

[Desperado]

Votecount 4.1

I'm sick today.
Desperado (and everyone else): It might be nice to spoiler large quote walls of votecounts or otherwise?

Nosferatu

(4): Desperado, Ser Arthur Dayne, Pine, Andrius

Andrius

(1): drealmerz7

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

drealmerz7

(1): Nosferatu

Pine

(1): Zachstralkita

Not Voting

(3): MariaR, Firebringer, McMenno

11 players, 6 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-03-02 18:20:00)

This nos wagon is 100% town. Nos starting on dreal suggests Dreal town on top of the fact that Dreal is just town.

Votecount 4.2

Hi I'm EP's replacement, who is also sick.

@Desperado: Sorry. That's a good thing to keep in mind for me.

Nosferatu

(4): Desperado, Ser Arthur Dayne, Pine, Andrius

drealmerz7

(3): Nosferatu, MariaR, Firebringer

Pine

(2): Zachstralkita, drealmerz7

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Not Voting

(1): McMenno

11 players, 6 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-03-02 18:20:00)

Doesn't look good for Maria here. I'm quite certain it's her or Zack. If I'm being honest I'd much rather it be Maria because then my early game reads won't have been a totally barren wasteland but I think Zach is most likely scum.

Votecount 4.3 - FINAL

Nosferatu

(6 - LYNCH): Desperado, Ser Arthur Dayne, Pine, Andrius, McMenno, Nosferatu

drealmerz7

(2): MariaR, Firebringer

Pine

(2): Zachstralkita, drealmerz7

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

Not Voting

(0):

Maybe McMenno lazily busses two buddies but I mean if the result was this, what was the point? It's just completely stupid to think any of gerry, pine, or mcmenno is scum at this point.

[Desperado]

Pine
gerry
mcmenno
SAD
dreal

Andrius

-------------- <--------- Line of Lynchability

Maria

Zach

[Desperado]

Waiting on Andy then choo choo on Zach

We didn't lynch scum on accident, Desp. Gerry and I worked hard for that lynch.

There really wasn't any reason for Nacho to have bussed. D1 should have ended in a NL.

[Desperado]

inside McMenno/Pine is my guess

not sure why Maria actually credits this scum read on me

like...i realize your options are limited but this theory died two scumflips ago man

[Desperado]

like I know I was bad this game but scum is a reach desperate men make

there is literally no reaching required to think you're scum

[Desperado]

almost all hated modifiers dont apply in lylo

also think this is the 3rd or 4th time we've discussed this exact thing in this game

[Desperado]

and ya it really wasnt town at all

zach is giving up

cant really blame him

[Desperado]

You just don't think it's a reach because you don't see your arm

awkward as shit

the town thing to do would be to like, engage any of the reasons people thinks he's scum

[Desperado]

zach there are very legitimate reasons people think you're scum and all you can do is tell me i'm reaching

it's scummy as fuck

[Desperado]

and the reason you cant say anything is because you have no defense

all you've done all game is poopoo wagons and counter every scum wagon with one on town

[Desperado]

I'd have bussed at least one of the 3 scum wagons come on now

why?

creature wasn't a sure thing to be lynched

neither was nacho, not d2 at least

and you couldnt buss nos because you two were in lockstep all game and it exposed you

[Desperado]

You have to present scum motivations for my actions that actually seem plausible in the interest of self-preservation where I'm concerned

Otherwise you're giving yourselves too much credit -- you really think this entire game is my scum play here? And I expected to win?

you are pushing mcmenno and pine as scum

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Desperado]

Okay I'm Jailkeeper

N1 McMenno (Wasn't here up to lynch - either way I missed Fro99er's claim and didn't go back to see anything)

N2 Maria

N3 Firebringer

N4 Pine

LMAO

here's your scum roleblocker folks

[Desperado]

goon, role cop, encryptor, roleblocker?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Desperado]

we dont

he's the roleblocker

lynch him for great justice and glory

[Desperado]

note to zach and nos: if you're going to claim your scum role as town

you really need to make sure your actions make any goddamn sense whatsoever from a town perspective

gg everyone

[Desperado]

also, the amount of people who somehow missed multiple town role claims d1 is the best justification for not producing dumbfuck retarded 150 page day ones in large themes that we are ever going to get

[Desperado]

well that was one of the most anti-town things i've ever seen in a game

well done zach

[Desperado]

Andrius i feel like had a meh reaction to thinking the game ended. He voted zach again even though I clearly hammered and zach 'claimed maf" and I feel like desperado just didnt have the reaction others did. also didnt claim I dont think which was weird considering he thought the game was over.

not sure how you could read the way the zach lynch went down and get me-scum from it

[Desperado]

why the fuck did sad die lol

[Desperado]

now i'm back to one of pine/mcmenno/gerry being scum

[Desperado]

it really doesn't make sense to not kill within that group unless scum is in it

[Desperado]

ya he had the weakest reaction for sure

not sure it makes him scum tho

[Desperado]

It's obvious why SAD died. Maf doesnt know who else has vests, and SAD claimed no more vests.

It's questionable that you didnt figure that out, desp. it seems like you're just trying to open up the lynch pool when the answer was clearly obvious

firebringer only had one vest to give?

[Desperado]

because that's what his role pm said

[Desperado]

The Card Machine

Hi.
You are

THE CARD MACHINE

, WHICH TAUNTED ME BY MAKING ME PAY MONEY FOR THIS BRUTAL EXPERIENCE

.
You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Vest Giver

.

Alignment:

You are aligned with the Town. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Gimme That Extra Dry Cycle:

Once per game, you can choose to target a person during the Night Phase.

That person will gain a one-shot bulletproof modifier that will protect them from one nightkill.

Firebringer, the

Town 1-shot Bulletproof Vest Giver

, has been killed N4.

[Desperado]

and neither would scum

so now i'm back to wondering why SAD died and not one of the three MAFIA PRODIGIES

[Desperado]

yo andrius

what do you think of gerry's "sad died because scum were afraid of other vests" theory?

sounds kinda like a scumfession to me

[Desperado]

i mean ya, logically he should be

but...you saw what he said

[Desperado]

and why do you think you/gerry/mcmenno are all still alive?

[Desperado]

nor should the Miller.

[Desperado]

reminder that i still have a 1-shot commute, which means i can either clear myself or force scum to NK to keep me lynchable

[Desperado]

@ andrius that was to pine actually

@ pine that's exactly what it means, unless you still think we started with 5 scum?

[Desperado]

pine - 2-shot bomb
andrius - vt
desperado - miller commuter
mcmenno - ???
dreal - vig
maria - even night doctor? still not clear on this
gerry - loved vanillaizer? i have no clue tbh

[Desperado]

The problem is that Desperado!scum can just no kill and claim that he's confirmed Town. We probably don't have a reliable means to check that you in fact commuted. So now I understand what you meant, and can tell you with actual authority that what you said still doesn't mean that.

no...

if there's no kill then i'm not confirmed

but, you know, no one died

i specifically said i can either clear myself OR force scum to no-kill

[Desperado]

reminder that i still have a 1-shot commute, which means i can either clear myself or force scum to NK to keep me lynchable

this statement is 100% factual

[Desperado]

Why are there so many protective roles in a game with so few killers?

maria could just be scum after all

[Desperado]

ya....

fuck

[Desperado]

what specifically about her reaction makes her town

[Desperado]

Massclaim today Y/N?

obviously yes

the only player who hasn't claimed is mcmenno

[Desperado]

yes, everything

[Desperado]

No need to out my doc targets lol

this is pretty scummy

they aren't doc targets, they're fruit vendor targets that can eventually produce a doc like result

claim everything in your next post.

[Desperado]

vote: maria

In the absence of anything to the contrary I'm going to assume you won't out your targets because your role doesn't exist, especially with you now having misread your role.

[Desperado]

Do you know how easy it to out fake doc targets if I wanted you moron I could do it easy

You didn't claim doc tho. You claimed that you give someone an item every night.

[Desperado]

So unless you're now saying you actually don't give someone a sock...I'm still going to lynch you because that's scummy as fuck

[Desperado]

SAD and gerry can die too

[Desperado]

Maria you just showed you've been softing your role since page one. It doesn't matter if you were solo.

[Desperado]

You didn't even know it was a soft lol. I didn't need to point it out to you

???

It doesn't matter. You were locked in to claiming what you claimed far before yesterday by your own posting.

[Desperado]

VOTE: Desp
This is 100% OMGUS if you're really dumb enough to not understand please die. If you're scum greattt

[Desperado]

If I'm really dumb enough to not understand how you...Misread your role PM and claimed you have a confirmable night action but are now saying you don't???

[Desperado]

When there's a lot of scum motivation to your role not being confirmable???

[Desperado]

You didn't even know what I was before the day before
"I'm just gonna claim fruit vendor and change it to doctor as scum"
????????????!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
You're not that dumb are you?
Pedit: Quote me saying I have a confirmable night action

You claimed both! You said you were a vendor who can doc people if they give them a sock two nights in a row.

[Desperado]

i could vote dreal at this point

all of the vca pointed to him as well but i was reading him as town indepedently

and scum vig does indeed make the setup make sense

[Desperado]

you wouldn't really be fake claiming here tho

[Desperado]

Nice silent L1 Maria

[Desperado]

Dreal didn't even know SAD was dead and there have been multiple times this game where it's felt like I'm the only one reading the game, so I don't care where the VC is.

[Desperado]

SAD and gerry can die too

ok he's confirmed not to be readying the game lol.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Desperado]

pine
mcmenno
gerry

andrius

--------- <------- line of lynchability

dreal

maria

[Desperado]

Maria was also off all the scum lynches (iirc) and on the mislynches

i'd say dreal not even voting is pretty scummy too

maria thought her role cc'd zach

[Desperado]

Dammit didn't Desp already do VCA?
I don't want to have to put it tons of effort atm.

i don't think much has really changed

maria and dreal still look really bad

[Desperado]

nah i'm headed to bed soon too

[Desperado]

hey Dreal

I thought this was supposed to be your time to shine, bro. Where the fuck are you

[Desperado]

vote: drealmerz

not voting andy

i could vote menno

don't think pine kills gerry and then votes menno as scum

[Desperado]

if you all wanted to lynch me it should have been yesterDay or the Day before

toDay I am going to

kick and scream

fight back hard if you try and lynch me

[Desperado]

Yeah, I'm being pocketed...I think it can't be McMenno. He's who I'm being left alive to ML.

That leads me to question my TRs on Desp and Andy.

this doesn't make sense considering menno only recently popped in to your lynch list yesterday

[Desperado]

dreal why did you unvote andy?

[Desperado]

so what was the purpose of the vote then? why does mcmenno get scumpoints for voting with you?

[Desperado]

does pine get townpoints for NOT voting with you?

[Desperado]

Yeah, I'm being pocketed...I think it can't be McMenno. He's who I'm being left alive to ML.

That leads me to question my TRs on Desp and Andy.

this doesn't make sense considering menno only recently popped in to your lynch list yesterday

He's been in it for a while, actually.

Not based on your posts? He was town until yesterday and then it was lynch Maria and Menno and we will win

[Desperado]

the characterization of "with you" is scummy, desp

now answer my question, can you lay out a case on me? if the answer is yes, please do so

the case is your voting patterns have been garbage and there isn't enough scum power unless you're a scum vig

[Desperado]

tammy, if you're reading (I think you are), please, send your mental energy waves to me so I can try and read your thoughts because they'd be really fucking helpful right now

Huh????

[Desperado]

I mean I just don't understand why you said that.

[Desperado]

I don't understand what is so hard to understand

I'm having a hard time figuring out the game and tammy's input would be excellent right about now, so I made a funny post about her sending me thoughts telepathically

But Tammy very rarely has thoughts, especially so in this game. The only stance she ever really took was that Nacho was giving her niggles.

And do you even know her like that?

It was just a very weird thing for you to say and it sounded fake as fuck

[Desperado]

So did Pines "I'm being pocketed to mislynch the guy I'd been calling town all game until yesterday" tho so who fucking knows

[Desperado]

Primarily because it's leading him to question his townread on me even tho I haven't supported a Menno lynch since Nos died

[Desperado]

No it's a fact, Tammy is notoriously wishy washy.

[Desperado]

@ Pine who else is even saying they want to lynch Menno??? I do not understand your stance on him today at all

[Desperado]

No it's a fact, Tammy is notoriously wishy washy.

no, she actually knows how to play mafia and shares her thoughts rather than feeling like she has to have an absolute stance about something, she knows to think about things and that there are multiple possibilities to consider about every situation and that it is healthy to put the thoughts out there and discuss them

...So she is wishy-washy???

She would tell you that herself.

[Desperado]

Ya you're right this conversation is stupid.

What do you two think about Pines Menno thing today?

[Desperado]

I'm not putting Tammy down and you WKing her isn't necessary.

Suddenly invoking a dead player in LYLO that you hardly interacted with while she was alive was weird and worth pursuing.

[Desperado]

So.... Pine/Mcmenno???????

[Desperado]

Both of them bussing the shit out of all 3 of their teammates would be some next level shit, especially considering Nos didn't happen until after my VCA. Pine was all over Dreal that day iirc

[Desperado]

So.... Pine/Mcmenno???????

what is this question

I'm still stuck on the possibility of 5 scum and if that's the case it's pine and Mcmenno I think

[Desperado]

If it's four scum it's you Dreal

[Desperado]

...Picking up the pieces of what?

[Desperado]

Use your words. What's scummy about it?

[Desperado]

Are you fucking high bro? The only reason you're even alive is because of the VCA and i ignored your voting patterns because I had a townread on you.

[Desperado]

But sure keep telling me what I have it haven't considered good job great effort

[Desperado]

I did

"both" or did you mean "either" - do you think there are 2 scum left? if you're even considering them, why are you voting me?

if you have trouble understand the why of all of that, ehhhh...I might have the energy to take you through it but it shoudl be apparent based on the context / gamestate

Everything I said was logically consistent with me speculating on the possibility of there still being two scum left. I said both because I meant both

[Desperado]

No it's the other two people I was targeting dying and being left with you.

[Desperado]

Your voting patterns have always been scummy but I thought you were town over Zach and maria but they are both dead now.

[Desperado]

Unvote

Pine I need you to be a little more explicit about your behavior re: Menno.

[Desperado]

Because he's town....

[Desperado]

I would stake the entire game on Pine being town for his WE DID IT AGAIN ANDRIUS TOWN/TOWN JUST LIKE STRAHD LETS HYDRA SOMETIME post.
Pine, if you're actually scum this game on the incredible off-chance, you and I are going to share some angry words postgame away from prying eyes.

Desperado's a townread based on his play but I'd choose Pine over him in a heartbeat in LyLo.
His play has been solid. The Miller/Commuter deal is still a bit much but whatever. The only scenario I lynch him in LyLo is against Pine, so.

dreal can go either way.
I am biased against him because he has been so passive this game.
Maybe its because of his boredom/distance from the game or something. Its like, his entire posting on this page basically sums up my experience with him this game. And the HAS ANDRIUS SAID ANYTHING TOWN TODAY is just bad but whatever.

And then there's Menno.
Bussing Creature D1 is totally within his repertoire as scum.
And that's really all I can remember him doing all game.
I mean, I wouldn't put it past him to skate on that as scum.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he's town having done his ONE THING all game which was the Creature push and then just sitting here going THIS GAME like he did on this page.
Idk. Menno has this air of I DONT HAVE A CARE IN THE WORLD this game which is complicating but w/e.

I really don't know what else I can say to help you all, largely since dreal isn't moved by anything I say because I don't do cases and Menno doesn't demonstrate a lick of caring.


If this DOES happen to be a 12:5 and this is a 3:2 LyLo then we're screwed anyway so.
Too bad the whole WE PLAYED WELL EARLY ON burns like this but, hey, we all share a part of this loss and I own mine. The whole 800+ posts was definitely too many, my earlygame was more whimsical than actually trying to do anything, I had a number of badly-defended reads (Nos was actually scum though; Nacho was actually scum; Creature I thought was town for awhile so there's that). I mean, the best part of this game was definitely the WINE NIGHTS with people like Sly (RIP) and Pine but that was more product of your charming personalities than the merits of this own game, so. Idk. Blunt honesty time with Andrius at 11pm on Fat Tuesday. I pushed Frogger too hard D1, assuming that he was more resilient than that since he seemed like he could dish it and take it but apparently not. I own the fact that I pressured him super hard and wish it didn't end in the Cop claim because that hurt us hard. That was on us. My read on Maria was spot-on which is small comfort. I said some words to EP after her lynch that basically summed up my thoughts but those aren't important anymore.


Spare the others.
I am ready.

This isn't game solving to you????

[Desperado]

So why would scum kill you after claiming bomb again?

[Desperado]

Because I claimed expired 2-shot after Zach was lynched.

ya i had a convo between you and andrius mixed up in my head

[Desperado]

Yeah, we are not rehashing my early D1 setup spec, nor are we debating how you would have played the role. Kindly fuck off about those things. I made the decisions I did, and was instrumental in three scum lynches. So go fuck yourself. I *DO NOT DO THAT* as scum.

Lynching scum and softclaiming a strong power-role is ALL I should need to do to bait the kill. Plus, I was only 2-shot, so I had to be strategic about it. If I were full-shot, I'd have claimed full Doc and said 'come at me bro,' but I wasn't.

you and i and everyone else knows that "i never bus as scum" is meta that by definition must be subverted eventually

there's no reason to think this isn't that game

[Desperado]

dreal

[Desperado]

but the thought of allowing menno to win this game playing the way he has literally makes me throw up in my mouth

[Desperado]

"i don't buss as scum" isn't "ironclad meta you can rely on"

[Desperado]

also pine why did you lie about nos?

you definitely were pushing dreal hard and only switched to nos after my VCA and after nos followed you on dreal

[Desperado]

ya pine really mind controlled me in to doing an in depth vca that directly pointed to nos scum

and iirc everyone was too busy barfing all over themselves over dreal while i was doing that

then suddenly nos got lynched

but no, pine is the puppet master

i even called it out in real time lol

[Desperado]

vote: mcmenno

[Desperado]

^this is what i'm doing today and i don't think it's going to change

[Desperado]

Unless you're talking about this "VCA," in which case go fuck yourself. 3/4 of the above still applies, and you can't really call "hurr, let's lynch off this one wagon" VCA.

no, i wasn't talking about that

i was talking about the multiple posts where i analyzed the vote counts....

[Desperado]

1.6...SAD L-2 with Creature and Nacho both not voting. McMenno-Fro99er-Pine-Andrius-Dreal-SlySly-gerry. Definitely possible this was an all town on town RVS wagon with zach, maria, and nos all off the wagon.

1.12...Desperado-Nacho-Creature-Andrius on gerry. Makes me feel good about Andrius, definitely don't see 3/4 and probably not 3/5 scum voting in succession.

1.15...Gerry wagon is now Nacho-Creature-Andrius-SlySly-Desperado-Toogeloo-dreal and zach and nos are 1/2 on an andrius counterwagon. I don't understand the purpose of a hard cross bus here between Nacho and gerry when Creature is sitting there being obvscum and everyone already realizing it because McMenno has already started building his case. Gerry's town.

1.16...Creature wagon appears. McMenno-Fire-Pine-SAD-gerry-SlySly, SlySly counter wagon is zach-desperado-drealmerz right now. I do not see any scum on that initial Creature wagon.

1.20...Creature wagon still strong at 5, nos/zach on Andrius, Nacho/Andrius on gerry. Really leaning towards nos/zach here given...

1.23...The Sly wagon reaches its peak at dreal-SAD-zach-fro99er-toog-nos. Zach and Nos both jump from a 2 man Andrius wagon to the SlySly counterwagon while Creature's wagon starts to erode.

1.24...Creature and SlySly tied at 5, McMenno-gerry-pine-Andrius-SAD vs dreal-zach-toog-nos-maria. This is THE vote count, in my opinion. Everyone on Creature was town and there are four unflipped players on the Sly counter. If we started 13v4 the last two scum are almost certainly in {deal, zach, nos, maria}.

2.2...Nacho wagon builds early with Fire-gerry-pine-mcmenno. At the time I had Nacho as town so this gerry-pine-mcmenno bloc felt sketchy but going 2/2 simply doesn't make sense. Bussing Creature, sure. But Nacho is a strong player, he had an incredibly important role, and the Tammy is the queen of waffling so her being suspicious of Nacho shouldn't have been enough to make them buss.

2.3...Pine counterwagon builds, maria-nacho-nos-toog. {Maria, Nos} has one scum.

2.7...No luck on Pine so now the SlySly counter makes a comeback, SAD-Zach-Toog-Nos. I feel like a broken record here but Zach and Nos have both been consistently countering scum wagons with SlySly. If there's 4 scum there is definitely one in {Zach, Nos}, if there are 5 then they are both scum.

2.8...Nacho and Sly tied at 5, Fire-Pine-McMenno-gerry-Tammy vs zach-toog-nos-dreal-SAD. I still do not understand why Toog was anywhere near this wagon...SlySly didn't fit the profile he'd been building AND his mason partner was pushing Nacho. Four unflipped players here with dreal/zach/nos all repeats from the D1 counter to Creature. SAD was on Creature that time.

2.9...Zach overtakes Nacho with andrius-slysly-desperado-maria. Fire switches from Nacho to SlySly, Zach unvotes. Need to check the context on this one.

2.11...Zach goes back to SlySly with Pine-McMenno-gerry-Andrius all sticky on the Nacho wagon and SlySly-Desp-Maria on Zach. The SlySly wagon is now Toog-nos-dreal-SAD-Fire-Zach and the evidence continues to mount.

pine you're the swing vote

[Desperado]

6025 wasnt the VCA it was just the vote counts colored in

and I looked at all those posts and I still believe you were focused on dreal and your turn on nos for being enthusiastic about the dreal lynch you were pushing doesn't make a lot of sense

[Desperado]

yes, at least for today

[Desperado]

like i said you have the swing vote right now

[Desperado]

i'm 100% not unvoting menno until he, like, starts playing the game

[Desperado]

LMAO fuck off