~laundry~ FIN

[Firebringer]

But yeah I agree only 1 death doesnt 100% = nacho scum.

It's a possibility I guess? But then where's the scum kill.

well ya

silly me for assuming a fucking doc would read the thread

fro99er claiming cop as like, the most important thing that happened yesterday

and he missed it

there was like 5 claims yesterday, lol?

[Firebringer]

lynch nacho,
then maria,

then desperado.

ALL SCUM.
Calling it now.

[Firebringer]

You didn't drive any wagon smart one please do not act like you did

i agree with this.

[Firebringer]

lynch nacho,
then maria,

then desperado.

ALL SCUM.
Calling it now.

Why do you sr me f-fire I t-thought you were my friend I-I thought you'd have my back.

i trust gerry and he says he has a guilty on u

[Firebringer]

how do you have a townread on mcmemester?

[Firebringer]

Spoiler:

Gerry probably doesn't have a guilty or any sort of result. After the events of D1, why is anyone taking his claims seriously?

maybe, wouldn't surprise me.
he is still town though.

[Firebringer]

do +2

[Firebringer]

i was like going on what the hell moist was about.

who all was talking about it?
Nacho, Tammy, etc?

[Firebringer]

ohh i get it, he is the funny.

[Firebringer]

Wait am I seriously supposed to believe some people didn't read the cop claim?

160 page game and your surprised people missed some details.

Yeah I missed it too.

[Firebringer]

{Desperado, SAD, SlySly, Toogeloo, Tammy, Andrius} - is my lock town group in a 15p game
I believe that Firebringer is very likely to be town; his play here looks mor e like Fire Assassin in the Thing play than I've seen him play elsewhere and again don't think that he's capable of faking this as town. Maria would be an additional townread; everyone else I'd be comfortable killing.

I am not playing like that.

[Firebringer]

Fire become obv town again so I can protect you like the cute puppy you are

I'd love to see similarities between me and thing right now.

[Firebringer]

Why did I quote you?

I don't like your buddying

[Firebringer]

You smell

[Firebringer]

Fire become obv town again so I can protect you like the cute puppy you are

I'd love to see similarities between me and thing right now.

you're pushing obvious town for bad reasons

lol, sure.

you are obv town.

[Firebringer]

and yes, you as scum would be afraid to push me in a game unless i was your scum partner, regardless of whether vague suspicion was floating around me or not.

i call bullshit, I am not afraid to push anyone as scum.
stop pretending you know how i play.

[Firebringer]

Hug me back fire or you'll make me cry
or join the pine wagon either work

[Firebringer]

Garry Oak, I am so confused by all your lies.
can you tell me the truth for once?

As your pokemon partner?

[Firebringer]

Why did frogger even claim. did he even have a wagon on him

no, he didn't.
which makes his claim that the more silly.

[Firebringer]

You mean to tell me you read THE THING?

no, he didn't read the thing.
He is making shit up.

[Firebringer]

Theres like 4 people who were in the THING in this game.
And nacho the one claiming to read the game but not play it is saying I am playing like that game, but none of the players in the game are saying that.

Yep, sure.
Totally legit.

[Firebringer]

wait. what the fuck, Andrius why did you not shoot anyone.

because he can't. its obvious andrius was faking.

[Firebringer]

hey fire

his silly claim got scum lynched when a no lynch looked almost inevitable

oh wait you arent reading the game so you wouldnt have known that, my b

is this where you use this to try to discredit me all game, because all i can say to that is lol.

[Firebringer]

oh yes, the classic "discredit by telling the truth"

but if its used for every argument when its not related to that its a distraction and a fallacious argument, so yes it can be "True" but that doesn't make it relevant to every argument.

You are usually pro logic in mafia games.

[Firebringer]

@Desperado personally i jerk my dick every page, but thats just me.

[Firebringer]

he was accusing you of missing context completely
I think you not really reading the game is fairly relevant

I said if it was used on me "ALL GAME", not using it now. Its completely relevant NOW, it won't be relevant always.

W/e, he is right that I should have read it, but at this point should have would have could have.

[Firebringer]

Yeah theres like only two people who legit think Tammy or Toog can be scum.

[Firebringer]

he was so obvious a 2 year old coulda picked him out as scum.

and nacho you really think im maf still lmfao. i think you're trying to play the "STUBBORN TOWN!!!!" card and no it wont work.

i think i recently saw nacho be pushed by people and they were almost all town and he was flailing at all them for being scum.
not sure what the game was, but I might go search for it if i can.

this whole "these guys are just tunneling town" seems like not a thing he would be able to recognize in the moment.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer has 10% of the fucking posts in this game

by himself

and is using the size of game to excuse him not reading.

uses this as evidence to show that firebringer complaining about game size is disingenuous
don't think this point is unreasonable, don't think it's throwing shade for the sake of throwing shade

So what do you take this to mean?

[Firebringer]

gerry, she actually did defend you day 1.

[Firebringer]

This game is such a shit show, and I am contributing a lot to the shit show.
One of its biggest attractions, people come far and wide to see my acts.

[Firebringer]

Desperado frustration is very real and very apparent, but i have no idea if that makes him town or not.
You would think he would channel the frustration into manipulation if he was scum, but theres really not much there.

[Firebringer]

Desperado frustration is very real and very apparent, but i have no idea if that makes him town or not.
You would think he would channel the frustration into manipulation if he was scum, but theres really not much there.

i could write a goddamn book on what i could do this game if i were scum

yeah, you are not being charismatic at all.
you are actually being the opposite of it.

makes me think ur townie against all my instincts that tell me i am wrong.

[Firebringer]

page one: don't fucking claim miller

Did it literally my last scum game, won it.
Not a horrible plan.

[Firebringer]

Ok lynch nacho if you're town both of you

agreed

[Firebringer]

and, as a Christmas Day miracle among a carnival of lunacy otherwise, I've underestimated firebringer.

Go fuck yourself.

[Firebringer]

i also don't have any confidence you a) reading my words or b) comprehending them or c) actually taking them in and thinking critically

so it's just be a giant waste of time

not even sure who this post is directed at.

[Firebringer]

I have this icky feeling one of my hard town reads is playing me super hard.......
i don't like it.

[Firebringer]

I have this icky feeling one of my hard town reads is playing me super hard.......
i don't like it.

how bout some names

its paranoia, but i don't like how buddy gerry and SAD are right now.

[Firebringer]

just replace out then tammy.

[Firebringer]

I am really surprised at how bad I am at reading Creature, like he should be an easy read, but I am wrong very often on him.
Maybe I should quit mafia.

[Firebringer]

Arthur looks townish from the way he went after and mentioned creature the entire game. Arthur has never played with creature before so he had every reason to give creature a pass but doesn't.

*cut to scum pt pregame*

creature: hey guys my scum game blows you should probably just bus me

sad: ok

????????

yeah i don't know why creature would even bother posting if that was the case.

[Firebringer]

yeah i don't know why creature would even bother posting if that was the case.

what do you mean

creature was a goon and by all accounts a poor scum player

his only utility to the scum team was getting lynched for town cred

i am saying if the plan was "Guys just buss me"
Why would creature interact with anyone? I felt some level of effort from him during the day, even if you say it was minimal.

Why even put forward that?

[Firebringer]

??

i mean obviously plan a is for creature to not get lynched, which requires even a token effort

so you are saying the plan was "lets buss creature but hope town ignores it completely for someone else"?

[Firebringer]

ummm distancing is when you are pushing a buddy but not hoping for their lynch.
bussing is when you are aiming for your scum partner lynched to get towncred.

Maybe this is just a semantic argument, but w/e.
I don't think that was simple distancing.

[Firebringer]

If you're voting a partner, which situation is preferable?

1) Town lynch a townie while you're bussing the shit out of your partner.
2) Town lynch your partner while you're bussing the shit out of your partner.

kind of loaded question.

1 creates distance the second is a buss.
Doesn't take into account lots of factors that could be in the game at any point.

Sometimes distancing/bussing is good, sometimes its not.

I am pretty sure i understood his point, i just don't think it happened that way, but this speculation is kind of useless tbh.

[Firebringer]

because tammy said she was unsure of nacho and you are saying she was sure of nacho basically.

[Firebringer]

but tammy doesn't have a read on nacho, why even bother mentioning it?
How is it even "icing"?

[Firebringer]

just replace out then tammy.

tammy, please don't leave me here.
please.

I'm just gonna walk away before I sub out

Please don't leave me here just because Gerry's a jackass

I sense a pattern.

[Firebringer]

I have abandonment issues and I don't like when people I like leave.

makes sense.

[Firebringer]

hows life in general nacho?

[Firebringer]

If we are going to have to sit down and explain how someone is being a dick, we are probably have to go around the room because i think nearly everyone has been a jackass this game.

lets not do that because its a waste of effort.

[Firebringer]

I am going to ignore this game for a few days guys.
I am horrible in terms of posting, I spam posts often when people are posting frequently.

I feel like a major contributor to over-inflated game and I want everyone to catch up.

Consider me V/LA till Tuesday.

[Firebringer]

i like you brining back this avi maria.

[Firebringer]

when will u stop rolling ur eyes at me though.
its so rude.

[Firebringer]

Tammy Toogeloo
Ser Arthur Dayne Nachomamma8 gerryoat
SlySly drealmerz7
Desperado
Firebringer Andrius McMenno
Nosferatu Zachstralkita
Pine

why am i not conf scum in this?

[Firebringer]

a skill that we all have under leveled, sadly.
maybe not a few here.

[Firebringer]

Okay so i was thinking more over while i have been gone why I exactly think Nacho is scum.

I have felt he is off this whole game, I will admit but I didn't push it much Day 1, and I don't think me thinking he was off day 1 means i have been tunneling him.

Basically I have gotten VERY SIMILAR pings from this game compared to Order of the Stick!Nacho. He felt contributory, he looked in some instances to be scum hunting, but something wasn't right.

I later while spectating that game came to conclusion "well if he is scum, I would never be able to get him lynched, charisma/effort"

What has seemed off to me:
Day 1, he contributes to things that matter more to him. [Does this mean anything? Why wouldn't anyone do this?]
Yes, for him it means something, I think thats how you get "genuine" nacho posts to begin with. If he was seriously committed to scum-hunting he would go out of that comfort zone to do scum hunting which I didn't see.

Him recognizing town pushing him is also ANOTHER HUGE THING. That is not something Town!Nacho has done in past games I have observed of him. He was overly paranoid in one game when nearly full town wagon pushed him. [Need to find the reference to that game]

Also his behavior towards players in being overtly friendly, again not being a tell in of itself, seems like something LESS LIKELY to do as town. I suspect he would say something more akin to "Do what you gotta do". This is probably my weakest point, and obviously going to be shouted down.


Firebringer made a case.
Time to ignore it now though.

[Firebringer]

Also all his interactions with Desperado clearly shows Nacho is defending town there.
I mean, I think Desperado is likely town now regardless of Nacho flip, but all those interactions show me someone trying to pocket town.

Derp = Town
Nacho = Scum

[Firebringer]

Firebringer made a case.
Time to ignore it now though.

I am amazing at prediction.

[Firebringer]

it's not pocketing if we both find each other simultaneously

i understand that you're afraid of what can happen after that

it's ok

we'll make it quick and painless i promise

id hope to get lynched sooner rather than later.
otherwise i am going to be more irritable than currently am.

[Firebringer]

Scum often do wait till last second to bus kquite often actually

[Firebringer]

Wait a min...

If Pine said he's not hated in lylo... isn't that unfair from a mod stand-point because it allows the town to know when it is lylo?

No, because mod still doesn't have to announce it's LYLO st any point.

[Firebringer]

I often tell my players when it's LYLO/MYLO but that's because I don't like "surprise game is over"

[Firebringer]

Yeah but doesn't Pine have to know when he has the hated modifier or not.

He is told when he doesn't have it.

[Firebringer]

He just isn't sure when its deactivated

[Firebringer]

Yeah but doesn't Pine have to know when he has the hated modifier or not.

He is told when he does have it.

Fixed

[Firebringer]

I will also

SET MY THIRD TRAP CARD

I am out for the night deuces.

i want to set this off.

[Firebringer]

I'm the mo

[Firebringer]

Tammy you have been pissy all game, certainly you can relate to those frustrated with getting frustrated as much as you are frustrated with game state

[Firebringer]

Tammy have fun with the game pls.
Like damn.

Like do what you gotta do so you enjoy the game.

I don't want to go all "you suck, stop playing you newb"
But you have been an almost constant push for apathy that scum thrive in.

Go reread your posts.
Like you may have been happy to play day one, but you have been pushing apathy ever since half way through it.
It's not productive to the goals you want.
None of these players will change their attitude or style just because you are upset.

As far as the questions you asked for follow up, I said everything I had in my mind at the time.
Nacho feels scummy to me and that was my best description of those feelings at the time.

Explaining my pings in depth is hard for me, if I get there and have more to say I will.
"What's important to him" I was thinking the people he wanted to interact with because he could float if they defended hi

[Firebringer]

Again just have fun.

Troll post every other or something

[Firebringer]

I don't know.

[Firebringer]

Highbringer is here

[Firebringer]

I agree Zach wagon is kind of lame

[Firebringer]

I will be your man at arms andrius

[Firebringer]

Why can't I be both?

[Firebringer]

pine is too good as scum.
maybe we should fear lynch him?

ALL IN FAVOR!?!?!?!?

[Firebringer]

THE DEPLORABLES DO NOT GIVE IN TO FEAR

hold up, i thought we did.

I need to read the deplorables handbook to know what we stand for again.
I thought we were just against tyranny of Princesses.

[Firebringer]

I'm concerned about the lack of town feeling vibe. I'm concerned about the feeling of being left hanging. I'm having a really hard time believing that we finally drew town together, something that hasn't happened in forever, and this is what I get.

This game hasn't been fun with me. I've been in a mindset where I don't think that this game will be fun for me unless I get ridiculously drunk during it, which is why I've secretly been hoping and praying that I get lynched so I'm released from the game. Typically you would be the one who could drag me out of the darkness, spray water on my face and bring me back to the groove because you have that tendency when you're a bright shining light but the game seems to be having the same effect on you to. At this point, I'm hoping I get dragged to death and make some beautiful inspirational posts and then say my goodbyes and put this game behind me and that's the best I can hope from this game.

the amount of ate in this amazes me.

[Firebringer]

can we release you instead?

[Firebringer]

I have the opposite feelings, but i kind of don't believe any of nacho "This game sucks so hard" posts.
I feel he is just leeching off Tammy hatred for the game.

[Firebringer]

okay, go over why you hate this game.
cause honestly i don't see a huge way in which this game is as bad as you are pretending it is.

I legit believe Tammy when she says its terrible, you no. Are you disinterested in this game? Sure, but disinterested doesn't equal hate.

In fact, if you hated this game.
I kind of expect MORE from you.

[Firebringer]

If you read my posts when I've expressed why this game is not fun with me, you'd know why you hate this game. I'm not interested in rehashing it and I'm not interested in bringing the thread down more than I already am; lynch me, see my flip, take me at my word when I say I'm not having fun the next time.

Nacho do this for me if you are town.

Read this post.
Do you think at any point during the game your mindset is going to change and you will be more actively involved?

If answer is no. Time to ask for replacement.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: SlySly

Nacho can wait till his apathy is sorted out.

[Firebringer]

what if i hug you, will you be emotionally attached if i do so?

[Firebringer]

All of you can die in a fire for all I care.

already did that.

[Firebringer]

^ Why do people sr this guy again?

because he knows how to look townie when he is scum.

[Firebringer]

literally you everytime i have seen u play scum.

[Firebringer]

your town play is more full of IDGAF and FU I PLAY HOW I WANT.

[Firebringer]

it's not that simple, maria

this too, i was simplifying it for her since she ignored everything else that i have found scummy about nacho.
which kind of irritates me, but at this point.

i kind of don't care.
my posts get ignored very often cause I am a "Troll" player, i should be accustomed to being ignored.

[Firebringer]

nacho if you feel like you do you should replace. No disrespect tho

[Firebringer]

whats that from andrius?

[Firebringer]

Slysly at L-1 btw.

Not that I care enough to unvote or even scared of a quickhammer, I'm all for this day ending with his lynch. However do know if you're planning on putting a vote it is a hammer.

I actually think Nacho and Pine and Zack are town. Or at least different shades of leaning-town. Weird :/

i have very high doubts that Nacho/Pine/Zach is a full town group.
Seems very very unlikely.

Even disregarding what is now becoming a tunnel by me on Nacho.

[Firebringer]

Actually I need most of you motherfuckers on this Sly wagon to rehash your reasons cause far as I recall that was the NO NO wagon day one when dreal and I were pushing it

just not as strong town for me man.
i kind of don't agree with case on him by Arthur, but so far his reads aren't COMPLETE shit, so like.
Meh.

I was wrong about creature, i might be more wrong.

[Firebringer]

Right now I feel interested in just sheeping Arthur, he will be my town champion.

THE BUDDYING IS REAL ARTHUR, CAN YOU FEEL IT!?

[Firebringer]

I don't think that my activity levels are "I should replace out" levels. I do hope that this game can get to a place where it's fun for me, but even in completely miserable games (Mystic Mafia), there are bright points. I'd feel immensely guilty if I asked Tammy to stay and then completely bailed on her (although yes, being as dark and depressing as I am this game won't change that although I hope to get somewhere different eventually).

Buddy, its got nothing to do with activity.

Your attitude will not help the game state.
It will only help scum.

Don't hate you at all or explicitly want to see you out of this game, but I definitely think your attitude if its still present in later days and you are town, scum will take advantage of and help them win the game.

[Firebringer]

i think i activated the first trap.

[Firebringer]

@Andrius how do you have opinion that troll posting is bad but a good portion of your posts are in fact troll/shit posts?

[Firebringer]

Don't hate you at all or explicitly want to see you out of this game, but I definitely think your attitude if its still present in later days and you are town, scum will take advantage of and help them win the game.

I'm certainly not replacing out for strategic advantage because 1) that's horrible and 2) I'm fairly confident that's against site rules.
Attitude only cropped up because I thought Tammy was missing a part of my approach; the reason it's continuing is mostly because you're asking about it.

I don't think replacing out because you don't enjoy a game would ever be qualified for "Strategic advantage" even if you think your replace out would help your faction.

but thats a different mess.
if your staying, i am going tp push you more if you push the narrative this is a shit game or something.

[Firebringer]

Actually I take back my Zach town-lean.

whats funny is i felt the exact opposite lol
i went from null to lean town over last page

[Firebringer]

Vote SlySly for a new day.
Day 3.

COME ON!

[Firebringer]

Tammy tr me I need a buddy

ill tr u.

hey tr buddy.

[Firebringer]

Man oh man.

Nacho heavy AtE feels like he's trying to pocket Tammy.

I said this earlier.

[Firebringer]

Toog is so town that if he flips anything else I will call shenanigans

[Firebringer]

Toog is so town that if he flips anything else I will call shenanigans

really going out on a limb there bud

what do you mean by that?

[Firebringer]

you should stop winking in ur sig, its very confusing.

[Firebringer]

This is why Arthur is my town champion

[Firebringer]

People don't like the shade man.

They prefer to bask in the sunlight

[Firebringer]

cool

also sounds like an easy way to remove accountability for anything you say

carry on!

How dare you say this to the Town Champion!
You will be dealt with!

[Firebringer]

It feels like Mc Fire and Dreal are just coasting by tbh I hardly remember there here at times

Wow so like rude

[Firebringer]

I should bring fire assassin in here
Mr no fun

[Firebringer]

Then no one will accus me of FLOATING

[Firebringer]

yes, i saw you say that already

so if you're going to lynch him, push it through, end this day, get his townflip and then we can move on tomorrow

^
We can then Lynch Pine or dog boy and everyone be happy!

Am I dog boy?

[Firebringer]

Nacho is like conf scum to me right now.
Can we do that instead Arthur?

Town champion I need your judgement!

[Firebringer]

In post 5406, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5390, MariaR wrote:
In post 5389, Desperado wrote:
yes, i saw you say that already

so if you're going to lynch him, push it through, end this day, get his townflip and then we can move on tomorrow

^
We can then Lynch Pine or dog boy and everyone be happy!

Am I dog boy?

No you're a cute puppy I'm talking about Mc

I thought about it and think mcmemester is town.
I do not support lynch on dog boy!

[Firebringer]

what happened to me Andrius?

[Firebringer]

New turn of events, I am now super cool with a Pine lynch.

For 5413 alone.

What about Nacho?

[Firebringer]

whats up mcmemester

[Firebringer]

Fire is leaning town but I would be 0% surprised if he were scum. I've basically based this entire read on his attitude. The I DONT APOLOGIZE was basically what he said to me when we were talking about being force-replaced and I was like "yeah no I was an ass" and he was like I DONT APOLOGIZE. So I think he's likely town.

Ummmm noooooo......

Few things I guess I gotta address here:
1) this was private communication between us, to bring it up in a game is pretty inappropriate.
2) I said I wouldn't apologize because I was right. I am perfectly willing to apologize if I think am an ass and wrong. I think you apologizing for being an ass when the mod completely fucked YOU was silly.

3) my attitude would be same if I was scum.
Maybe a little nicer since I don't like being an asshole scum.

[Firebringer]

The day doesn't even need to be discussed:
VOTE: Nacho

[Firebringer]

VOTE: McMenno

Wrong person.

[Firebringer]

i don't care, ur objectively wrong on who is more likely scum.

[Firebringer]

No discussion today. Nacho gets lynched, he is uber confirmed scum.
Zach you are either scum trying to detract or misguided town.

Please move to the flash mob.

[Firebringer]

not sure why FB is all "oh it's so clear" about it, seems fishy

Its so clear because theres like at least 5 huge signs in game and I have a guilty on him.

[Firebringer]

Hellooooooooooooooooo people I have missed you during the second night.

i missed you too town champion, but i am sad you were wrong about slysly.

[Firebringer]

Zach you are either scum trying to detract or misguided town.

Way to pick the only two alignments I could be, nice detective work


do you really have a guilty

yes.

[Firebringer]

zach i actually think ur town right now, so you being uncooperative and trying to push a lynch nobody cares about is irksome at best. your reasoning on mcmenno is very weak compared to most other lynches disregarding the non conf scum nacho.

now please vote nacho, thanks buddy. luv u.

[Firebringer]

what type of guilty is it

gunsmith

why are you so insistant that I'm scum? it's silly

I tracked you to Tammy last night.

And why no comment on this..

he is lying.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Ser Arthur Dane

worst vote 2k17

[Firebringer]

thats a scary thought dreal.

[Firebringer]

make a fucking case

Guilty result is more than sufficient.
Goodbye, dreal.

........

vote nacho.

[Firebringer]

zach or dreal would you like to be a hero and vote nacho?

[Firebringer]

arthur be the town champion!

[Firebringer]

Firebringer ignoring on valentines day

Firebringer are you a JOAT?

yes

happy valentines day buddy.

[Firebringer]

I can feel the love tonight.

[Firebringer]

yo yo all.

[Firebringer]

i kind of want to lynch maria for ~revenge~

[Firebringer]

how about we lynch maria tomorrow after dreal flip?

[Firebringer]

also gerry is probably scum more i think about it.

[Firebringer]

wait your told you got shot?

[Firebringer]

I LITERALLY THOUGHT PEOPLE ON THIS SITE COULDNT BE THIS BAD, BUT I'VE BEEN PROVEN WRONG. I WANT TO PIN THIS GAME ON MY QUOTE AFTER THIS GAMES END, SO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE CAN SEE HOW BAD PEOPLE CAN BE LOL

wow. what an over reaction.

[Firebringer]

happy cake day andrius

[Firebringer]

i think this hunt for sk pointless till we see two flips in one night.
which we haven't

[Firebringer]

okay you're bad too. you're an embarrassment to pokemon everywhere. take that avi away

i literally can't take you seriously right now. ur playing a character.

[Firebringer]

okay you're bad too. you're an embarrassment to pokemon everywhere. take that avi away

i literally can't take you seriously right now. ur playing a character.

i can't take you seriously when you say you scumread me

i just think a lot of things say ur scum based on ur actions earlier. I am not going to lynch you anywhere near today, but if you think you are uber town, you are not. You have been shifty by many people. id townread it, but considering how mariar has showed me how anti town a scum can just get away with. meh.

ur no longer in my strong town pile. sorry to tell you buddy.

[Firebringer]

literally something mariar told me last game as she was scum. do you both get your tactics of AtE from same place?

[Firebringer]

frankly if ur in lylo gerry, i am 100% sure u will be the scum of the group right now.

[Firebringer]

Wtf are you talking about.

You did literally nothing.

he is taking credit for having right reads day 1, but not being the primary pushers.
in essence he has good reads make him town, which is stupid as hell

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how was i not the primary pusher on nacho

YOU DIDNT EVEN VOTE HIM ON THE DAY HE WAS LYNCHED!

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i actually believe you think you were primary pusher of nacho.

[Firebringer]

.............

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theres no need for u to apologize man.
its all good.

[Firebringer]

hi maria, how r u?

[Firebringer]

I want to hear more from nosferatu today.
he is in my null pile and i want him sorted.

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arthur i don't see a point in rushing this day rn.
scum have no day chat now so they are in disarray.
less time they have together to plot the better imo.

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arthur i don't see a point in rushing this day rn.
scum have no day chat now so they are in disarray.
less time they have together to plot the better imo.

I'm Universal Maf Backup. We have daychat again l0l

this is why i like u gerry, so fun.

[Firebringer]

ur the best owner a growlithe could ask for.

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i have a running theory that mariar continually picks more and more cheerful avatars the more she wants to manipulate us.
so she is very likely scum.

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If both MariaR/Gerry are town this game i am going to be shocked.

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If both MariaR/Gerry are town this game i am going to be shocked.

We are

If we have a vig, please shoot this.

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VOTE: drealmerz

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and why do YOU think I'm scum?

you weren't on the wagon for nacho.
i kind of feel that whole wagon was almost all town.
so u pushing someone else when a huge movement was going for nacho I see as being scum not know what to do.

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This is bs because the nacho wagon was gone in 3 fucking hours lol I woke up to the day being over

HE WAS ON AT THE TIME

ARE YOU EVEN READING THE GAME

[Firebringer]

A fast wagon happened on nacho.
dreal* goes into the pt says "Hey guys, what should I do, momentum is pushing on nacho" and it happens so fast, scum don't have chance to react and Nacho is lynched.

This is how i imagine it happened.

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how in the hell can you make these statements when your reads have been proven to be shit and ur not reading?

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If dreal flips scum I am 100% tunneling on MariaR. She in no way gets away with being this much of a detriment to the town.

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did you agree with all those reads, Maria?

Agreed on Scum Sly Mc Pine scum

SLY IS DEAD HOLY SHIT

[Firebringer]

wait i may have been misinterpreting that.

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How does me having wrong reads make me a detriment?
Pedit: Are you even reading fire? He asked WHAT I agreed on

Yeah i noticed my error on your comment.
Apologies on that.

You having bad reads means you have been DEFENDING scum all game.
That makes you a detriment because you are either being really bad town, or the scum defender.

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I am really bad town everyone has shitty games no one is perfect and this is my shitty game. That doesn't mean you should outright ignore anything I say because i was wrong

If you want to lynch me because you think I am scum who defended my partners that's valid

if i was lynching you, i would be lynching u because i think ur defending all ur allies.
which i feel is the case with the way you approach people in this game.

Especially that awkward tammy thing where u claim u agree with her on nacho when she gave no opinion on him.

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like i think last two scum is Dreal/MariaR right now. If i am wrong on one it probably is maria.

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you are not just soft defending dreal* right now.
You didn't just soft defend nacho.

Your not just soft defending the scum.

[Firebringer]

Fire does this look like my scum game compared to pokemon?
Fire: SCUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

ur just trying to get under my skin now.

[Firebringer]

Fire does this look like my scum game compared to pokemon?
Fire: SCUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

ur just trying to get under my skin now.

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im not tunneling u at all, i am saying you are wrong, you have been wrong, and I think you should stop acting like you know what you are doing, because you even said you feel like your reads are all wrong.

so when you tell me "Ohh he was on but didn't vote doesn't mean he is scum" it feels ur discrediting me for no other reason than to throw town off.

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WAIT
IF MARIA IS VOTING DREAL WHY IS SHE ARGUING WITH ME ON WHY HE IS SCUM!?

[Firebringer]

maria, then why didn't you say "Well he is scum, but this is stupid"?
You never even made that clear....

[Firebringer]

I am also blacklisting Maria for that thing she did.

[Firebringer]

These are amazing btw

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Honestly dreal I think you shouldn't have been left to endgame
No idea why andrius and Maria got lynched but not you:

[Firebringer]

Then why did you act like you were confirm town during LYLO?

[Firebringer]

Why didn't anyone straight up say desp was confirm town based on nachos interactions with him? I mean I said it earlier but everyone forgot

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I didn't, I acted like I was the only 1 I knew to be town and I tried to do what was in best interest of town which was to make them vote eachother so I could decide because I was confident at that point that I was going to make the right call (which was vote mcmenno, which would have been correct)

so I also don't know how you can really say "I should have been lynched earlier" as hard as you do, because at the end of it all, I had the right read and made the right call, it was desp. who didn't, and again, repeated points over and over about andrius's behavior and no one making any sort of real push on mcmenno (andrius, desp, should have been trying to get everyone to vote him at that point, I agree, I would have liked to vote him in retrospect, but it's not on me as much as I think you're making it to be at all)

You straight up posted "cross vote so I can figure out which of you is scum"
That is not of the mindset of someone who thinks they are being strung along as mislynch bait.

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yep, that's what I was afraid of

look, you 2 vote each other and let me decide, okay?

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I kind of get idea your making up shit now dreal

[Firebringer]

I don't think anyone is blaming it all on you.

[Firebringer]

I was wondering what that whole thing about moist was.
i thought it was just from what Pine said in the sign ups and everyone was pretending it was a meme.