Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[mattblackguy]

/confirm

What happened to GE?

[mattblackguy]

Rautherdir
gerryoat
JarJarDrinks
Soumil07

Whoever hammers I won't vote all of day 1...

what?

[mattblackguy]

Alisae, are you actually in 12 games?

[mattblackguy]

Why does it have to be relevant? Game didn't even start yet

[mattblackguy]

Absolutely disgusting.

[mattblackguy]

Absolutely disgusting.

[mattblackguy]

Yo what's the point of the HURT: and HEAL: tags? And are there any other tags that aren't listed?

[mattblackguy]

sorry i saw you both and i thought this was maf chat -___-

Nice save bro I think they are believing it!



VOTE: RC

I have too

[mattblackguy]

I have to

-_-

[mattblackguy]

Alisae is scum. he's too defensive l0l

Dude why you bussing so early Idk if it's gonna work out

[mattblackguy]

It was a good one, wasn't it?

[mattblackguy]

Pretty sure Transcend always does early TRs like that. It's NAI

[mattblackguy]

Everyone thinks who is unreadable? RC?

And I don't know who the majority of players find unreadable.

[mattblackguy]

The RVS wagon on you wasn't any fun. You didn't even blink! What a badass Didn't you at least want to warn us how close to L-1 you were? I would have raged - what if scum had a double voter?

Whaaat? If scum had a double voter, and they seriously hammered me there they would by lynched tomorrow. 1 townie for 1 scum is a good trade imo. The thought of scum having a double voter didn't even cross my mind because I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to do it this early into day 1.

[mattblackguy]

WTF is even going on. Hold up, gonna read in a bit.

Honestly not much.

[mattblackguy]

VOTE: Grendel

I just want out of RVS

[mattblackguy]

What do you think of RC's twitchiness about being given such an easy town read from Transcend? Do you think this behaviour is more often associated with paranoid townies? Or is scum-RC just as likely to make such a song and dance over it?

I can see either scum or town RC say something like this. I've just got beat by scum RC in my first game, and he's pretty good at disguising his scum game so I'm probably not going to think about giving RC a town read until way later in the game, and I encourage everyone in this game to do the same.

...Although I don't see how this gets us out of RVS

[mattblackguy]

hmm, Somebody sounds stressed.

More like bored, but what made you think I was stressed?

[mattblackguy]

Because you were the leading wagon then you voted a potential counter wagon. It looked to me like you were trying to get some pressure off yourself.

I guess I can see where you are coming from. I don't really get stressed when I'm at L-2 much less L-4(when I voted you) in RVS. From my POV, I just wanted to try to do something to get the game moving along.

[mattblackguy]

If Mattblack is town maybe, but I wouldn't label it "important" until after a flip.

Wait I'm not seeing anything there. What's interesting about the people on my initial wagon?

[mattblackguy]

Yo I'm finally here. 10+ pages since I've last checked so I'm catching up now.

[mattblackguy]

271 -- Yeah I agree I don't like this reaction at all either. He responded there like he knew you were a cop, yet all this time he was arguing with you he called you scum. Most of the arguments against each other was kinda bullshit but this seems valid.

286 -- Why do you keep saying that RC is scumreading you because you are scumreading him? You are misrepping the reason he is scumreading him.

292 -- I agree

319 -- Not sure why more people aren't agreeing with this because this is how I felt about the exchange

412 -- I liked this post, but I don't understand why you say you'd be happy to lynch Gerry, but then voted Grendel. Why was Grendel a better use for your vote than Gerry if you thought Gerry could be scum? At this point in time Grendel was null for me. I understand that you're name is "sheep" but Gerry also had 2 votes at the time you could have sheeped that wagon too.

416 --Dumb reason for why you don't want to lynch Gerry. Imo the only reason why you wouldn't want to lynch someone is if you think they're town, and I don't believe you said you were townreading Gerry. Could just be useless post, and NAI though. Hard for me to tell.

429 -- Good analysis, and I agree.

435 --Why did you jump on the Grendal train though? Was he your top scumread at the time? If he was then why?

464 -- So you didn't jump on the Grendel wagon because you were scumreading him? You only jumped on to appeal to the two people you were townreading? I don't see how this is coming from a town mindset at all.

{Alisae,Grendel}
{RC,Keyser,Sheep}
{Vifam}
{Gerry,JarJar}

I'm fine with a Gerry lynch today, but I don't think 464 should ever come from any non-newbie town player.

VOTE: JarJar

[mattblackguy]

how do you tr alisae

I liked his interactions with you, and RC. Just felt genuine to me.

Why exactly do you SR alisae?

[mattblackguy]

I don't townread JarJar but I don't think that 464 is a great reason to vote him.

Voting someone because someone tells you to vote them, and not because you scumread them raises red flags for me.

[mattblackguy]

He wasn't even talking about much. How does that make him your top TR lmfao. And just based on past experience with him, i thought he was defensive at something that didn't need defense for.

I see a lot of townies that get defensive when they feel they are being unjustifiably scumread. I didn't feel that was scummy.

[mattblackguy]

{Alisae,Grendel}

Yeah, why AM I a top townread?

how do you tr alisae

I liked his interactions with you, and RC. Just felt genuine to me.

Why exactly do you SR alisae?

That coupled with I'm always a little more cautious with more experienced players because I don't know how well they can fake their town game puts you and Grendel at the top for me.

[mattblackguy]

^ that makes no sense lol

why doesn't it make sense?

[mattblackguy]

For example, there's very little difference between RCs townplay, and scumplay which is why I'm not comfortable putting him as one of my top Town reads because I know he can easily fake his play so far as scum. I don't think you can do that quite as easily.

[mattblackguy]

Which is why I'm more confident on my read of you and Grendel than a few others.

[mattblackguy]

Then I'd be surprised. Not sure what kind of answer you were expecting to that

[mattblackguy]

VOTE: Vifam

RC, why didn't you reveal it was just a reaction test, and you weren't actually the cop yesterday?

[mattblackguy]

Still find it hard to believe there are 2 cops in this setup, but if you really are cop then I'm guessing you are revealing ur result later today?

[mattblackguy]

Rc isn't cop

so you're saying he's scum then?

[mattblackguy]

So if you think RC isn't cop then why do you think RC is still lying today if he's town?

[mattblackguy]

I think Transcend might be scum and that scum might have a role cop.

why do you say scum might have a rolecop?

[mattblackguy]

Vifam's hammer doesn't make any sense from a townie's perspective. Vifam said he didn't think Gerry was scum, and that he didn't want to lynch Gerry because "I like him". Doesn't make sense to hammer him before he even gets a chance to claim then.

[mattblackguy]

Dude, but Jar is making a lot of sense though.

[mattblackguy]

If I bait 1 kill all I do is waste scums night and don't actually get us a mislynch.

The cop is dead there's no huge value to my role anymore.

So what was the point in keeping up the "Im still a cop" charade at the start of day 2? If there's no value to your role then what was the purpose of that?

[mattblackguy]

Honestly I think my reads are just probably shit and I fucked up tbh

what are your reads though?

[mattblackguy]

Why is Keyser a strong townread? I can see him as scum.

[mattblackguy]

The fact that Keyser didn't make a vote outside of RVS yet was still active is a little concerning.

[mattblackguy]

Hey matt what's your read on yourself?

what?

[mattblackguy]

I may look at mattblackguy first actually:

The fact that Keyser didn't make a vote outside of RVS yet was still active is a little concerning.

Either you did not fully read Day 1 or you are scum.

VOTE: mattblackguy

You can start by deconstructing your read of JarJarDrinks from Day 1 through to Day 2 (from scum-read to town-read)

GO!

Yes I did read day 1 fully. What am I missing? You said you don't think Gerry is scum, and won't join the wagon, but you agree to the lynch for information purposes. Why didn't you instead propose a counterwagon to Gerry's wagon if you thought RC vs Gerry was TvT? I don't see why you think lynching someone you think is town for information purposes is better than lynching someone you think is scum.

Either way I'm not pushing for your lynch today. I stated that it was concerning to me, because it felt off. I'm more focused of Vifam or RC here. Also your townreads on RC, and Vifam are stupid as shit. You're basically saying they're too scummy to be scum. I don't townread people for acting scummy.

Oh and as far as JarJar goes his push on RC is towniest thing I've seen so far on day 2. The tone was genuine, and all his points so far toward RC are valid concerns yet everyone is ignoring him.

[mattblackguy]

I understand what you're saying RC. You're going for the mislynch on me, and night kill on JarJar, so you can easily coast to victory.

[mattblackguy]

Because JarJar is the only person that will strongly push a lynch on you later in the game.

[mattblackguy]

Spoiler: 891

Why is Keyser a strong townread? I can see him as scum.

Explain this beyond, "He still had his RVS vote out"

Surly there is more to this read then that alone.

That's not really what I said. I said he didn't make a vote outside of RVS. His last vote was you which was still mainly a RVS vote. He unvoted later, but then didn't try to put pressure on anyone. He thought Gerry was town, but didn't bother making a wagon on someone else. The fact that day 1 only lasted 3 days could have contributed to the fact that he didn't try to make a wagon, and nothing else really concerned me about Keyser, but I'm still keeping it open.

Spoiler: 890

{Alisae,Grendel}
{RC,Keyser,Sheep}
{Vifam}
{Gerry,JarJar}

I'm fine with a Gerry lynch today, but I don't think 464 should ever come from any non-newbie town player.

VOTE: JarJar

Which is why I'm more confident on my read of you and Grendel than a few others.

Why were you town reading me?

I usually remember when someone town reads me, but for some reason seeing this surprised me.

Also your Jar jar read. You seemed sure he was scum yesterday, but now its like he is the shining hero who is defeating evil RC for you. Like you reads coming into today seem to have flipped completely.

Like why is RC scum instead of town but wrong?

I think the wagon on you had 1/2 scum on it that didn't want to take a stance on the RC/Gerry situation. Your reaction to the wagon felt towny to me and reflected all my thoughts on it. I didn't like Jar's play day 1, and still don't agree with sheeping townreads on someone you don't scumread. I also said this earlier in the day about Jar "Oh and as far as JarJar goes his push on RC is towniest thing I've seen so far on day 2. The tone was genuine, and all his points so far toward RC are valid concerns yet everyone is ignoring him." As far as RC goes Jar expressed a lot of my concerns, but RC really strengthened my read on him with his bullshit push on me. He can't even give a half-decent reason but pushes me anyway.

Either RC is way worse that I thought at playing town (and for someone that sure loves to stroke his ego, and gloat on how great he is I find that hard to believe), or he's scum. Seriously the fact that RC played with me last game yet is calling me scum is laughable if he actually is town.

Spoiler: 889

I understand what you're saying RC. You're going for the mislynch on me, and night kill on JarJar, so you can easily coast to victory.

Weren't you town reading RC earlier?

It seems like you went into D2 town reading him.

When did that change?

I commented on that above. If you concerned on how my reads shift, it's because I reconsider things, and go back reread as time goes on. If I think someone is scum day 1, but then go back and reread, and feel their day 2 play is really towny then I change my opinion, and vice versa. I don't lock myself into my day 1 reads.

[mattblackguy]

Town matt should see Gerry flipping cop and think to himself "Hmm RC is caught in a fakeclaim. Might be scum"

Scum matt on the otherhand knows that RC is town (assumming they're not both scum) so he immediately jumps to the conclusion "Hmm RC is caught in a fakeclaim. He must have been reaction testing"

RC said day 1 that he revealed his role to get a reaction out of Gerry (Isnt this a reaction test?). So I asked that question because I wanted to know why didn't he say he wasn't really a cop after he got the reaction out of him. I wasn't assuming RC was town when I asked that question, but I only had one vote and Vifam's hammer was the scummiest thing in the game. I still stand by my vote on Vifam and still think he should be lynched today.

I kinda have been neglecting like half of the game, and I'm going to go over most of my null reads soon, and see if I can get a better read.

@mod I'm actually voting Vifam not RC. I've never voted RC on day 2

[mattblackguy]

Scum matt on the otherhand knows that RC is town (assumming they're not both scum) so he immediately jumps to the conclusion "Hmm RC is caught in a fakeclaim. He must have been reaction testing"

I did it as a reaction test because being RC I do not expect to live the night anyway unless I get docced so I don't see a big problem with me being outed.
You can like it or not like it but I caught scum.

RC, why didn't you reveal it was just a reaction test, and you weren't actually the cop yesterday?

[mattblackguy]

Who is scumreading Sheep? Is it just Transcend, and Grendel? I don't understand the issue with sheep. Reread his iso, and everything he does just seems like he's trying to gamesolve.

@Sheep What's your read on Grendel? I can't tell if you're actually scumreading him or not. I still think his reaction to his wagon yesterday was towny, and nothing he said so far day 2 pinged me as scummy. Kinda feels like you guys are wasting time arguing with each other when I think both of you guys are town

At least Rauth has more meat to chew on now...

Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.

UNVOTE: Akarin, she'll get prodded soon anyways...

Is this this why people are scumreading Rauth? If it's something else let me know, but I didn't find this post scummy at all. A lot of other people obviously thought the interaction between RC/gerry was SvT.

I didn't see a problem with the rest of Rauth's ISO. Nulltown for me.

VOTE: sheep

VOTE: Rauth

Honestly I'm not sure how to read Transcend. His playstyle is really hard to read since he usually never explains his reads.

@Transcend can you give some explanation on why you think these two are scum? You gave some explanation for your Keyser read, but I don't believe you did for these two.

Actually, Transcend, do you really have 6 townreads right now? I'm pretty sure you are reading everyone alive as town except for {Keyser,Sheep,Vifam,Rauth}. How confident are you in these townreads that you have? I didn't notice you were townreading so many people until now, and I can definitely see the possibility that you are scum faking your townreads. The fact that your non-townread pool is so small makes me feel like you should be a lot more confident, and pushing harder on these 4 because if you can confidently narrow the game down so much the game should already be won in your eyes.

[mattblackguy]

Transcend is at L-1. Be careful.

[mattblackguy]

Not lynching Transcend when 2 of my top scumreads are on his wagon. Not to mention the whole case on him is mainly just a policy lynch that we learn nothing from if he flips town.

[mattblackguy]

RC and Vifam. I honestly have no idea why people are town reading RC.

[mattblackguy]

Can someone please show me why Lil Uzi Vert is town.

I don't think anyone said they were Town reading LUV besides transcend, but he retracted his Town read on him. I honestly can't get a good read on LUV

[mattblackguy]

This feels very fake to me.

Idk I think it's legit.

@mod can you prod Lil Uzi Vert?

[mattblackguy]

If Rauth is telling the truth then it narrows the game down a lot, and that means:
RC Town
Rauth Town
Grendel Town
Nancy Town
Akarin Town

Meaning the 3 scum are in:
LUV
Vifam
Keyser
JarJar
Sheep

There's only one scum in [Keyser,Jar,Sheep], and I don't think it's Keyser, but I'm not confident enough to give a full Town read so I'm keeping him here just in case.

I'm fine with either LUV or Vifam lynches today since they're both scum.

Actually, wait, lets do LUV first. Vifam if you're not scum then who are LUVs partners?

VOTE: LUV

[mattblackguy]

Sure, come flip LUV with me.

[mattblackguy]

You unvoted after you voted RC

[mattblackguy]

Grendel is not scum

[mattblackguy]

Why only 1 scum in {Keyser, JJD, Sheep}?

Cause LUV, and Vifam are scum.

I don't see scum motivation in his play, and he actually does look like he's try to figure shit out. Seems like to me all the questions he asks is try to help him better read players, and not a facade. Whether those questions are good or bad questions is kinda irrelevant imo. All the matters is the motivation behind the question, and I see town motivation.

(^This is about Grendel^)

[mattblackguy]

Hey MBG. Why did you not immediately jump to the conclusino that I was scum on day start?

I didn't understand the reason why you didn't reveal you weren't fakeclaiming after the reaction test. I wanted to better understand that to see where your motivations were.

[mattblackguy]

I think I'm caught up in confirmation bias.

Nah he's scum

[mattblackguy]

I mean yes but you just saw me as scum in a game where I lied about things constantly. I feel like you would have jumped to the conclusion that I was scum for lying, no? Why is this different?

That's only one game, and I have no idea what your town play is like. Only your scum play. Which is probably why I was more inclined to scumread you because the two seem pretty similar

[mattblackguy]

The confirmation bias is in regard yours and JarJars associations with LUV ( through his posts).

Oh ok. May be jumping the gun a bit, but who do you think is the 3rd scum?

[mattblackguy]

As I remember it, yeah, it was like 2 days and 14 hours or something.

Close but it was 12 days

[mattblackguy]

don't vote he's at L-1. What's up with people not declaring L-1.

[mattblackguy]

Did transcend claim?

Transcend/Nancy both claimed VT

[mattblackguy]

1270

[mattblackguy]

Transcend was basically a policy lynch for most people. When he replaced out most people left the wagon.

[mattblackguy]

Grendel - I said this earlier about Grendel "I don't see scum motivation in his play, and he actually does look like he's try to figure shit out. Seems like to me all the questions he asks is try to help him better read players, and not a facade. Whether those questions are good or bad questions is kinda irrelevant imo. All the matters is the motivation behind the question, and I see town motivation."

Akarin - I really liked her questioning of JarJar, and Vifam. I could see where she was coming from in all of her posts even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them.

Nancy - Weakest of my townreads cause it was more of a gut read on Transcend rather than Nancy. The whole push on him was policy, and I started feeling like he was unmotivated town rather than scum during his back and forth with RC.

Still think it's Uzi,Vifam(Frogger),[JarJar/Sheep]

I guess it could be possible that it's Uzi,JarJar,Sheep

The only reason I'm suspect of Sheep is because of the people he chooses to push. He only has pushed people that I'm townreading so far, and his push on Transcend/Nancy reminds me a little of RC's push on Creature in my first game.

[mattblackguy]

JarJar is L-2 atm

[mattblackguy]

That way people like Jar and RC will actually listen to me

So now all of the sudden you are townreading Jar, and scumreading me when your original case on me being scum was complete bullshit that was full of associations between me and Jar.

His sole reason for not inching Transcend was because RC and My slot were on the wagon

Not lynching Transcend when 2 of my top scumreads are on his wagon. Not to mention the whole case on him is mainly just a policy lynch that we learn nothing from if he flips town.

Blatant lies that conveniently ignore half of my post.

Frogger literally quoted me on this in his previous post, and he says my SOLE reason for not lynching Transcend was because my top scumreads were on his wagon. No it wasn't. Read my fucking post that you quoted. I say that the whole case on him is a policy lynch that we learn nothing from if he flips town. I'm not policy lynching someone day 2 that I don't even think is scum.

Matt on D1 voted Jar for a single reason that wasn't even that great. And then never pushed him again.

That's a pristine example of a D1 bus, because it doesn't mean anything then as the sole person voting him.

Notice how he's not pushing Jar now.

Vifam on day 1 voted Jar for a single reason that wasn't even that great. And then never pushed him again.

That's a pristine example of a D1 bus, because it doesn't mean anything then as the sole person voting him.

Notice how Vifam wasn't pushing Jar and was in fact townreading him before replace out even though Vifam was scumreading him Day 1?

There you go turned your whole weak ass argument right back against you. If you're going to say I'm scum for scumreading Jar end of day 1, and townreading him day 2 then you might as well go ahead and vote yourself.

@Keyser: I think I already went over why I'm scum reading Matt but if I haven't I'll do so again. I found a lot of his play early on forced and felt like he was fence sitting. He's also recently been calling for my head but I don't think he's made any attempt to sort me or even has said why he's scum reading me.

The reason I haven't answered any of your questions is because it's all stupid shit that I can't respond to or it's stuff that you can figure out by just reading my posts. Seriously you say I'm fence sitting on RC, but I said multiple times that Vifam and RC were my top scumreads at the time you said I was fence sitting. If you have just read my posts you would have seen I wasn't fence sitting.

Looking through your ISO I don't see any real effort in you trying to lynch scum. It's all slight probes that on the surface looks like you're scumhunting. It all reads like fake scumhunting to me. Looks like you're scum trying to fly under the radar and coast by. That's all I got from your iso.

If Rauth is telling the truth then it narrows the game down a lot, and that means:
RC Town
Rauth Town
Grendel Town
Nancy Town
Akarin Town

Meaning the 3 scum are in:
LUV
Vifam
Keyser
JarJar
Sheep

There's only one scum in [Keyser,Jar,Sheep], and I don't think it's Keyser, but I'm not confident enough to give a full Town read so I'm keeping him here just in case.

I'm fine with either LUV or Vifam lynches today since they're both scum.

Actually, wait, lets do LUV first. Vifam if you're not scum then who are LUVs partners?

VOTE: LUV

Once again, this is literally a scumclaim. I guarantee you both uzi and I are town. Him keeping keyser in there is gross.

Matt today, sheep tomorrow

How is this a scum claim? Nothing you have said so far convinces me that Uzi is town so I still think he scum. If you're talking about me leaving Keyser in there it was me being cautious, but I took him out in my next scum readlist because there's no point leaving him in there. I even said in that post that I didn't think it was Keyser.

TLDR - Frogger's whole case on me is I'm scum because he doesn't like my interactions with JarJar even though Vifams, and LUVs interactions with Jar are just as bad, and now apparently he's townreading Jar. His other point is that he doesn't like the fact that I didn't want to policy lynch Transcend which is also bullshit. His last point is he doesn't like my readlist because I say he and LUV is scum.

[mattblackguy]

I already said who I think the scum are. Look through my iso if you're actually curious. How about instead you answer why you were blatantly misrepresenting what I said in your 1700? You gladly take half of my post and just read that, and ignore the second half that doesn't line up with your logic.

[mattblackguy]

I already said who I think the scum are. Look through my iso if you're actually curious. How about instead you answer why you were blatantly misrepresenting what I said in your 1700? You gladly take half of my post and just read that, and ignore the second half that doesn't line up with your logic.

No, you didn't say who you think scum is after I flip town.

Answer my question. And if you're too lazy to look a couple posts back in my iso that's your problem.

[mattblackguy]

Spoiler:

Alright so here's where we're at with the final 2 scum.

Rauth,RC,Keyser,Grendel,Akarin are all town. Don't need to worry here.

There has to be 1 or 2 scum that bussed Jar, because only people that didnt vote him was me(town), Rc(town), Kesyer(town), and Sheep(???)

[LYNCH ACHIEVED] JarJarDrinks - Akarin(town), Grendel(town), Lil Uzi Vert(???), nancy(???), Rautherdir(town), Fro99er(???)

This leaves Lil Uzi Vert, nancy, and Frogger as the possible bussers.



Possible scumteams(in no particular order):

(1){JarJar,LUV,Frogger}
(2){JarJar,Nancy,Frogger}
(3){Jarjar,Sheep,Frogger}
(4){Jarjar,Sheep,LUV}
(5){Jarjar,Sheep,Nancy}
(6){Jarjar,LUV,Nancy}

(1) - I think is the most likely team
(2) - It's possible that Nancy bussed JarJar, and flipped on her reads after Rauth cleared RC, but I don't think that's too likely with how the Transcend wagon shaped out. It would mean both Vifam, and Jar were bussing Transcend for barely anything more than policy reasons. Transcend's lynch was easily avoidable given how little of a case was given on him, so I don't think they'd go with it that easily. Probably least likely team.
(3) - Someone else can go until more detail about this as a possibility. Probably second most likely team
(4) - Idk what to say about this one. Maybe someone else can give some input if they think this is likely.
(5) - For the same reason I think (2) is unlikely I think this one is unlikely.
(6) - This one would be a weird team. Idk the liklihood of this being the team.

Actually now that I think about it more it doesn't look like Nancy would fit well in any team. She's probably not scum.

Why Frogger is scum, and should be lynched today:

1. His entrance of the game reads like a super hard bus on JarJar to try and gain towncred
2. He scumread on ne was super weak and nongenuine but tried to push it off as truth. Seriously look at his reasons for scumreading me yesterday. Said I was scum for scumreading Jar for a weak reason, and then townreading him day 2, but Vifam(his slot) did the same exact thing. Says I'm scum because I didn't want to policy lynch transcend and announced he was at L-1. Then misrepresented my reason for not hammering Transcend (he said it was only because my scumreads were on the wagon, but ignorned the fact that I didn't want to policy lynch). Says I'm confirmed scum because he doesn't like my reads post.
3. After his back and forth with Jar he backed off of Jar, and started pushing me even though there was nothing that Jar said that warranted him to back off of him. He then pushed me, and tried to get others to push me because he knew it would be better to get a mislynch on me first before lynching Jar day 3.

VOTE: Frog

Good shit RC. Keep pushing me Frog. I wanna see how it's going to work out for you.

[mattblackguy]

matt why is Grendel a hard TR for you?

I already said this before... I don't see any scum motivation in his play at all. Almost all of his posts is him townposting. It's all genuine too. Not sure how else I can say this. Can you actually quote some things that make Grendel scum?

[mattblackguy]

Alright,

I'm going to do a big VCA so that when I'm dead and town you all can freaking listen to me.

Don't hammer me before then.

It'll probably be tonight after I watch some basketball and my wife goes to bed.

Oh shit guys he said not to hammer him in big text. He must be scum! /s

[mattblackguy]

Spoiler: Keyser

You are in no position to say this. Only Rauth.

Fuck off. I will give my thoughts if I want to give my thoughts. If you don't like them I don't care.

Scum had the choice to bus but it is not certain. JarJar was a dead man walking, so less townpoints to win. What's your thoughts in regard D1 VCA?

At least 2 scum on Gerry wagon. Maybe 3 if Sheep is town.

All 3 lynched gerryoats. I'm finding it hard to believe all 3 scum would be present on that miss-lynch. Am I being foolish and short-sighted to rule out the possibility?

Why do you find it hard to believe that all 3 scum mislynched Gerry? Either 2 scum were on Gerry's wagon or Sheep is scum. Those are the options.

LUV-Frogger: What do you make of their D3 interactions?

I don't even know what you're asking. I make nothing out of their D3 interactions.

As it's the second most likely team, tell me more about Sheep.

I already said what I wanted to say about Sheep. I don't like the wagons that he is pushing. I didn't like his push on Transcend and Grendel.

Scum-Fro99er would have just kept to his bus-plan and finished off the job on JarJar. JarJar was a dead man. If scum-Fro99er had pushed through a 'miss-lynch' on you, his name and word would have meant nothing by D3.

So what reason did town!frogger have to back off of Jar, and ask the town to lynch me instead? Frogger said he was never more confident on his scumread of Jar, but then backed off after their back and forth. There was nothing that Jar said in that back in forth that should have made Frogger less confident in a scumread that he apparently was his strongest ever. Seriously 90% of his read on me was associations with Jar, but then he said he was unsure of Jar, and instead wanted to lynch me.

Like, I don't dislike the MBG case. I seem to recall that I pushed it. But I don't want anyone, Fro99er included, pushing town to end today in the first 24 hours. That's how towns that are doing well end up throwing.

Seriously what about Frogger's case did you like? It was absolute shit, and most of it was based on associations with Frogger, and Nancy. Go back and look at it again. I already disputed his bad case, and all he had to really say in response was "who will you lynch when I flip town". Frogger is not town.

[mattblackguy]

I will say this again, Frogger backing off of Jar, because he is not sure that Jar is scum after he said that he was never more confident in a scumread, but then pushing me on mainly associations with Jar, and Nancy is scum! If he wasn't even sure Jar was scum anymore, but then pushed me on a case that was mainly built on my associations with the person he is not even sure if scum anymore is stupid as shit, and I don't know why anyone can't see it.

[mattblackguy]

based on associations with Frogger, and Nancy

Jar, and Nancy*

[mattblackguy]

>Frogger enters game
>Frogger says Jar is scum
>Frogger says he has never been more confident in a scumread before.
>Frogger says by association with Jar, Matt is scum
>Frogger says he is not sure if Jar is scum, and could be wrong
>Frogger pushes Matt on association with Jar even though he is not too sure if Jar is scum

The train of thought makes no sense. If Frogger was town he wouldn't be pushing me after he said wasn't too sure of Jar. Not sure how many ways I can post this until people understand it. Frogger is not town.

[mattblackguy]

Whatever, I'll just claim. I'm town Jailkeeper. I jailed Rauth obviously. Now can we lynch scum today?

[mattblackguy]

This is a scumclaim from Matt

This is a scumclaim from frogger

[mattblackguy]

So can we lynch scum today?

[mattblackguy]

How was claiming here bad?

[mattblackguy]

I was at L-2, and I was pretty sure you would put me to L-1 since RC switched over to me.

[mattblackguy]

I wasn't going to vote you. Anyway please answer Fro99er's questions.

Didn't seem that way when you were sheeping everything RC did.

I jailed Keyser night 1, because I felt like he had a decent chance to be killed, and would be a decent person to keep alive.

[mattblackguy]

Why did it take you so long to give us your N1 jail?

You asked me at 6:42, I answered at 6:46...

[mattblackguy]

I saw it, but you're doing whatever you can to try to push the mislynch on me so I don't care about answering scum's questions.

[mattblackguy]

I saw it, but you're doing whatever you can to try to push the mislynch on me so I don't care about answering scum's questions.

[mattblackguy]

I don't care about meeting the demands of scum that is trying their very best to mislynch me

[mattblackguy]

I'll cooperate with townies. Not scum

[mattblackguy]

If this is really {JJD, mbg, Sheep} then yeah, this could just be scumteam given up.

I'm not scum. And I haven't even given up.

[mattblackguy]

Scum role blocker doesn't work well with jail keeper in a closed set up due to priority issues.

Scum roleblocker can stop both jailkeeper protecting, and the cops. I don't understand what you mean by priority issues exactly.

[mattblackguy]

Solving the game by trying to mislynch town jailkeeper. Makes perfect sense.

[mattblackguy]

what if its just scum jailkeeper?

The thing I'm a town jailkeeper, and if he was town he would try to look at both sides to figure out if I'm town jailkeeper or not. That's not what he's been doing. He's been nitpicking at every little thing to try to push my lynch through.

[mattblackguy]

My flip will be good for town.

If you actually were town, your flip would be bad for town.

[mattblackguy]

I almost want to gamble and say that he is the scum rb. Since role blocking Ruath as scum makes sense. And the over all distribution of town power also makes the jk claim tough to shallow.

So you think scum decided to nokill?

[mattblackguy]

Why are you guys suggesting no lynch? Seems awful to me. I think we should lynch in {Frogger,LUV,Sheep}

[mattblackguy]

@Nancy, If Grendel was scum with Sheep he would lose the game by bussing him right now. No way he can get past Jailkeeper, and cop.

VOTE: Sheep

Yeah this is the best lynch for today.

[mattblackguy]

Oh hey I just found out that I actually suck at this game. So RC you're a doublevote for as long as I'm alive. I'm not giving any more reads on anything. Not voting myself because it's against my wincon.

UNVOTE:

I suck at this game too! *HighFive*

[mattblackguy]

[mattblackguy]

[mattblackguy]

Or maybe me, RC, and Rauth are all town (ps. this is the correct answer)

@Keyser, End of day 1 you were a townlean for me. I didn't read over your ISO more until after Vifam said you were a strong townread. And when I said you could be scum because you didn't try to counter Gerry wagon by creating a wagon of one of your scumreads (after the Grendel wagon collapsed), it was what I was honestly thinking at the time. I can see scum motivation in saying you don't agree with a lynch on a townie, but not trying to counter it with a different wagon because you don't care if the townie gets lynched. The fact that day 1 ended in 2 days though makes all of this meaningless because I will never know if you would eventually try to start a counter wagon. This is why I didn't push you for this reason, because after I said that I understood the day was too short for this to be a substantive read. I understand why you are saying my read on you was bad, but I don't understand why you keep pushing me on that bad read.

[mattblackguy]

Yeah I don't believe 5 strong town PR roles. And I believe Rauth.

VOTE: LUV

LUV, why did you visit Akarin when yesterday you were talking about me and sheep as your top suspects?

RC those are kinda weak PRs though. Not a full Cop, full Jailkeeper, full bulletproof, full motion detector, and backup.

[mattblackguy]

Frogger, and LUV scum

[mattblackguy]

Alright well after LUV is lynched I'll jail you and if mafia kills then you're cleared. If not then you're scum simple.

[mattblackguy]

Fro99er I'm not getting the impression that you've seriously thought through the majority of the stuff you're pushing and yet you're pushing it like you have a guilty.

RC it's obvious he's been doing this all of day 2. He's saying anything and everything to try and paint me as scum.

[mattblackguy]

Matt's don't.

Yes it does

[mattblackguy]

LUV
{Frogger,Sheep}

[mattblackguy]

How is he Confscum?

[mattblackguy]

Because you guys won't lynch Frogger

[mattblackguy]

No it would be better to lynch scum here.

[mattblackguy]

I'm fine with lynching in VT. But I'm not going to push a townie lynch. ThinkBig is town

[mattblackguy]

If we lynch in VT. It's sheep or frogger

[mattblackguy]

Read the ducking game Frogger. I'm not going to baby you.

[mattblackguy]

Nancy reminds me of Cass. I know she means well but :/

[mattblackguy]

@Rauth, why aren't you voting LUV then?

[mattblackguy]

MBG is the obvious scum RC. It's either that or the meta has changed where town just gets a whole bunch of PRs.

Please tell me more about this.

"Obvious scum" via meta analysis.

I've never played with Matt prior to this. I find him obvious scum for the reasons I stated before and because I don't buy his jail keeper claim.

What? We played in Normal 1874. Remember you tunneled lucca for no reason and then replaced out because no one was joining u on ur tunnel?

[mattblackguy]

Yeah me too

[mattblackguy]

I lost my patience for this town a long time ago.

[mattblackguy]

[mattblackguy]

Only person ThinkBig can be scum with is Rauth, but I still think luv!scum is more likely than Rauth!scum.

I don't see scum!rauth clearing someone that his partner is tunneling on.

[mattblackguy]

Unless JarJar planned for his partners to turn on him and gain a bunch of towncred in the process. But still think it's weird for him to put the game in the hands of 2 newbies.

[mattblackguy]

Still don't think Akarin's questioning of JarJar was SvS though.

[mattblackguy]

So ThinkBig is obvious scum because he got motion detector confused with Voyeur?

[mattblackguy]

@Keyser, So I decided I'll answer your questions

But my concern was the discrepancy of your changed read of me.
Why were you t/leaning me D1 then?
Why didn't you jailkeep one of your two strongest t/reads (Alisae / Grendel)?

You were asking questions that made me think you were trying to sort others, and didn't see anything scummy from you. If I think someone is putting in a genuine effort to sort others, and scumhunt I usually townread them unless I see something that pings me as scummy.

I thought you had a greater chance of eating the nightkill seeing as you were widely townread by almost everyone, and you seemed like a decent player that scum would want to kill off early.

Do you think people doubting your PR claim are bad-town or scum?

Do you think town or scum are more likely to push a no lynch today?

Do you think their paranoia given all the PR claims is irrational?

Can you see how people could doubt the reasons why you chose to jail me N1?

(1) Both obviously. Scum definitely would benefit a lot from me being lynched with how strong my role is right now. If I can stop one more kill it will buy us an extra mislynch which scum definitely don't want.
(2) Idk, but no lynching is definitely better than mislynching me today. Lynching in VT is preferable to both though. If we can nail the scum in VT then we basically win the game, but if we don't it still narrows down the game a lot if we lynch the right person. There's a good chance we can sort out the PR claims tomorrow depending on the night actions.
(3) No...
(4) I'm not going to lie about who I jailed night 1. I knew saying I jailed you night 1 would make people more suspicious of me, but it's what I did. I'm not going to start lying and say I jailed someone else when I didn't. If I was scum lying about my role don't you think it makes more sense for me to lie and say I jailed Grendel? I townread Grendel for mostly the entirety of the game, and no one would be suspicious of me choosing Grendel.

Please can you explain to me why Rauth's roleclaim meant Grendel, Nancy and Akarin were town?

...and the 3 scum HAD to be in the bottom list of 5 players.

I was townreading those 3 independent of Rauth. I didn't say they HAD to be in the bottom list. Everything I say is my opinion. Stop reading everything I say like I'm trying to pass off everything as facts, because I'm not. Those bottom were the list of people I wasn't townreading. Now I know you didn't care about any of my answers, which is why I didn't care about answering them in the first place, but just so you don't get continue to be cranky I answered them for you. I want to see if anyone is reading my posts. If you read this far say cheese in your next post. Here I'll give you some good questions.

(1) If you think I'm scum then who do you think my partner is? You already said you don't think Akarin(ThinkBig), and Sheep are scum. Then who else is there?
(2) Since you think I'm scum and want to lynch me you must be pretty sure that scum attacked RC, and that I wasn't the reason for the No Kill. Why do you think scum would attack RC when he already claimed Bulletproof. They can't kill him so what was the purpose of that? It makes 0 sense to me that people actually think this was the most probable reason for the No Kill. Seriously me jailing Rauth, and either protecting Rauth from the kill or preventing Rauth from making the kill makes a lot more sense. But it seems it's easier for people to ignore the facts and just say I'm scum.


I'm not sure about Nancy tbh, but I still don't think JarJar's vote on Transcend was a bus/distancing. His vote on Transcend looked a lot more like scum going for an easy mislynch. Why would Jar bus Transcend at that point in time when there wasn't good reason for him to be lynched? Most of the case against him was policy, and that people didn't like his vague reads. That's not really AI for Transcend afaik.

I'm not even sure about Rauth anymore. It's so odd for scum!rauth to claim backup cop, and clear the person his partner is tunneling on that I thought it was unlikely that he would flip scum. I basically cleared him as town for just that, but his play so far day 3 isn't good at all. He hasn't really done anything. Honestly Rauth might know that both I, and LUV are both PRs which is why he doesn't want to take a stance here. The fact that he said earlier that he thinks that both me and LUV can both flip town is really shady. @Rauth, There's almost certainly one scum in the PR claims, and one scum in the VT claims. Which do you think is more likely to be scum, and more likely to be town in each pool.

No matter who we lynch today, I want Rauth to give his stances on the whole playerlist.

VOTE: mbg

if this is scum then we win. If this is town then LUV is scum and we win.

And if LUV is town?

If we lynch in the VTs I'd rather it be in {Frogger,Sheep}. I can maybe see myself voting for ThinkBig today. {JarJar,ThinkBig,Rauth} isn't out of the question, but I'm not really feeling it too much either. I still think ThinkBig is going to flip town, but it's not as bad of a lynch as Grendel, or Keyser would be. I'd probably just deadline lynch him if it comes down to it.

VOTE: Frogger

I was just going to vote Sheep, because I think he has a higher chance of getting lynched over Frogger, but I at least can see where he is coming from with some of his pushes (even though I don't agree with them). I still don't think Frogger was genuine with his push on me earlier. I don't think Frogger believes what he's pushing. I don't care if everyone thinks I'm wrong. I'm not forcing myself to vote in something I don't believe in.

[mattblackguy]

RC, why are u so certain that LUV is town?

[mattblackguy]

U said either me/Rauth is scum

[mattblackguy]

@Rauth, why do u refuse to do anything today?

[mattblackguy]

@Rauth, If u don't feel confident then read through the game again or ask questions that'll help u sort others. Doing nothing won't make u more confident.

Even if I do get mislynched today I don't want the day to end without u doing anything.

[mattblackguy]

I was typing up a post right before u hammered...

My mislynch was still extremely stupid though. Might as well post what I was going to say anyway

I jailed Rauth.

I stopped the NK one way or the other (Rauth attempted to kill or Rauth was attacked)

Scum are not idiots that thought "oh what if RC is lying, let's try to nightkill him just in case he's not actually bulletproof"

I jailed him because I knew he was the target most likely to be killed and wanted to stop a kill.

If I stop one more kill I buy us another mislynch.

If town wants to start being reckless and lynch me, then proceed to lose the game because everyone lacks common sense then go ahead.

There is really only two people I can reasonably be scum with while Rauth can reasonably be scum with almost any VT claim. Mislynching me today and then lynching Rauth tomorrow doesn't help town when there are 7 VT claims and only one mislynch remaining.

Everyone in this town wants to play all or nothing. If this flips town then the game is over, because I'm still town.



VOTE: Rauth

[mattblackguy]

RC just doesn't know how to read me even though this is how I always play as town.

[mattblackguy]

Went back through last few pages, and that wasn't hammer. It was L-1. Lynch Rauth instead. Me flipping Jailkeeper, and you lynching Rauth tomorrow doesn't help us when you have 1 mislynch left and 7 VTs.

[mattblackguy]

Rauth tomorrow doesn't help town when there are 7 VT claims and only one mislynch remaining.

With one dead scum, and you saying Rauth is scum, I'm pretty sure 7 VT claims have a few more chances than 1 to catch scum.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.

I'm pretty "meh" on the whole reaction test page - don't really believe anyone was fooled, Matt looks mildly good for the 4-5 minute timing, but on the flip side if Nancy is scum it's less impressive and I still kinda buy that. I get nothing really.

@Matt - why do you think Rauth is scum? I know RC is selling their Rauth/Matt theory - but do you also believe it for some reason? I find it not particularly telling as a theory, why wouldn't you suspect LUV?

lol I guess you haven't been reading any of my posts. Not surprised really. I did say I was suspicious of LUV before, and I was even voting him earlier. Rauth hasn't done anything all of day 3. That's why I kept pressuring him to get some reads out there. I don't think he actually reread through the game like he said he did. His reread post was just stupidly bad, and he doesn't even say he thinks Frogger is scum. I don't think Town!Rauth makes that kind of post at this point of the game. I know he's still kinda newbie, but that doesn't mean he's that bad.

@Keyser, Jesus man I don't even know what you want from me. You been tunneling on this stupid shit for so long. Look I'll say it again. You were Town lean end d1, Town lean start d2, Vifam posts you were strong townread. I get curious on why the townread is strong. I remembered you being townish day 1, but nothing stood out for a strong townread. I read through your ISO to try and get a more solid read on u. I notice something I didn't notice before. You were Town reading Gerry but wasn't opposed to his lynch or try to start a counterwagon. There wasn't much time for u to start a counterwagon day 1 so the latter is null. The former I still don't like but I don't know if that's just a play style thing from you. You wanna lynch scum with me now or you wanna continue tunneling on me because you think I'm a bad player?

[mattblackguy]

Not a "bad player" mate.
I just thought your two reads contradicted the decisions you made N1/D2.
I flagged this as suspicious.
I still don't think you fully grasp what I am asking for.
Nevertheless, I will unlikely be voting you today, because sometimes the obvious answer is the correct answer: 'the no night kill was likely down to you'

If my response didn't answer what you were asking then yeah I have no idea what you were asking then.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.

Makes two of us - I was stating that I don't get how/why you're saying we only have one mislynch left. How do we only have one mislynch left?

lol I guess you haven't been reading any of my posts. Not surprised really. I did say I was suspicious of LUV before, and I was even voting him earlier. Rauth hasn't done anything all of day 3. That's why I kept pressuring him to get some reads out there. I don't think he actually reread through the game like he said he did. His reread post was just stupidly bad, and he doesn't even say he thinks Frogger is scum. I don't think Town!Rauth makes that kind of post at this point of the game. I know he's still kinda newbie, but that doesn't mean he's that bad.

Are you basing this on experience with town Rauth, or just a presumption of what town Rauth would do?

I said if I am lynched today then we have 1 mislynch remaining. I haven't personally played with town Rauth, but I looked at his previous town game. In that game he also revealed as a PR, but after revealing he was more open with his reads, and thoughts. He hasn't been like that at all after revealing. I had to force him to contribute, and when he did do a catchup it was a vote for a silly reason especially at this point in the game. I don't buy his "I don't know why I voted Frog" story either. Just makes him look worse.

[mattblackguy]

Just going to say this now because I don't know if the day will end before I get a chance to post again. I'm jailing Sheep tonight, so if I die tonight then he's not scum.

p-edit: yeah RC was just gana say that

[mattblackguy]

Whichever one of them is scum has played shitty and we can both agree on that, no?

[mattblackguy]

Nancy, RC can't be killed he's bulletproof. I'm jailing Sheep because if mafia kills he'll be confirmed as Town.

[mattblackguy]

RC already is conftown though .-.

[mattblackguy]

Nancy pls

[mattblackguy]

I'm telling everyone I'm jailing Sheep, and this won't change. So if I die tonight you can be 100% confident I jailed Sheep.

[mattblackguy]

Me and gin both can confirm VTs

[mattblackguy]

hey guys so when we ending day?

[mattblackguy]

guys, you are making Frogger cranky

[mattblackguy]

GUYS, YOU ARE MAKING FROGGER CRANKY

[mattblackguy]

RC never had more than 2 votes on him but he acts like he was at L-1 lol

[mattblackguy]

Oh I forgot LUV voted RC at one point.

[mattblackguy]

What? Lol Third party?

[mattblackguy]

Yeah I did because I loved you

[mattblackguy]

I believe he is not town

[mattblackguy]

Jester etf u still think I'm scum?

[mattblackguy]

Keyser* I dunno how I typed jester

[mattblackguy]

Rauth are u a VT?

[mattblackguy]

I'll just wait for pine... you're trolling me too much lol

[mattblackguy]

Nancy, RC is bulletproof. There is no reason for me to jail RC

[mattblackguy]

I'm jailing Sheep

[mattblackguy]

Oh wait lol I'm stupid as shit. Rauth confirmed scum

[mattblackguy]

VTs aren't informed of roleblocks.


Anyway I'm jailing Sheep and won't change my mind.

[mattblackguy]

I TOLD EVERYONE IM JAILING SHEEP TONIGHT. I WONT CHANGE MY MIND

[mattblackguy]

HOW CAN RAITH FLIP TOWN? HE JUST SAID HES VT AND VT ARENT INFORMED OF ROLEBLOCKS

[mattblackguy]

Wtf why am I getting autolynched?

[mattblackguy]

What happened?

[mattblackguy]

RC are u stupid? U realize he can't be VT right?

[mattblackguy]

Jesus Christ RC

[mattblackguy]

I can't even tell if it serious or not

[mattblackguy]

This game...

[mattblackguy]

RC if this isn't another gambit then we just won the game
RC - town
Nancy - town
Sheep - town
Me - town
Gin - scum
ThinkBig - ?
Frogger - ?
Grendel - ?

I don't really think it's ThinkBig, but I can jail Grendel/Frogger tonight, and if the kill goes through we lynch the other.

If the other flips town too then we just lynch Think the next day.

[mattblackguy]

I jailed Frogger last night.

[mattblackguy]

wtf how could I be scum? Dude I stopped the kill lol.

Scum tried to kill Rauth night 2, and I blocked it.

[mattblackguy]

RC, did you hard push me in twilight phase to keep me alive today? Or did you actually think I was scum?

[mattblackguy]

Also it's just as possible that the shot was made at me so.

I think you're town but I'm not willing to write you off as confirmed at this time.

Are you a bulletproof backup cop? Not sure how the shot could have been made at you if you're still alive.

[mattblackguy]

Yeah I'm fine with spending some more time sorting VT claims. All we need to do is confirm 1 of 4 unconfirmed VT claims as town to win the game, and I'm pretty sure Nancy is town. I don't see why Nancy would try to drive the lynch off of me and onto one of the VT claims (at least this is what she tried to do at first before like 3 people told her no)

[mattblackguy]

So Frogger says he's really good as town but has been 0/4 since JarJar hmmmmm

He said I'm scum with sheep, and if I'm town then Keyser is scum. Also said LUV is confirmed town lol

Bad town or scum?

[mattblackguy]

Nancy you knew RC wasn't bulletproof?

[mattblackguy]

Tbh though it's probably more likely Grendel and not Frogger :/

Grendel was nullreading LUV, and JarJar this entire game.

Day 2, he says me and Rauth are his top scumreads, but he never even votes for either of us or tries to push either of us. In the same post that he says me and Rauth are his top scumreads he says Jar is null. He later votes Jar, because "I rather lynch Jar over LUV". Not voting Jar because he thinks he's scum. He's voting him because his only options are his 2 teammates.

[mattblackguy]

At least that's my theory right now.

[mattblackguy]

Either way it's impossible for us to lose at this point. Scum fucked up by not killing me.

If scum kills RC, I jail Grendel if kill goes through then we lynch Frogger. I block Think if kill goes through town lynches Nancy. 100% chance of Town victory

If scum kills me, I confirm Grendel by jailing him, and RC confirms one of the other 3 VT claims(lets say RC checks frog and he's Town). Town then lynched Think if he's Town then lynch Nancy.

[mattblackguy]

We can't lose

[mattblackguy]

Yes it is

[mattblackguy]

If scum kills RC, I jail Grendel if kill goes through then we lynch Frogger. I block Think if kill goes through town lynches Nancy. 100% chance of Town victory

[mattblackguy]

4 unconfirmed VT claims. If I die tonight I confirm 1 and u confirm 1.
If you die tonight I confirm 1 tonight and then 1 the next night

[mattblackguy]

Nancy wasn't Grendel one of ur top scumreads before?

It's Frogger or Grendel imo. I really hope it's Frogger though because that means my reads post day 2 was spot on

[mattblackguy]

I would have been fine with Rauths fakeclaim if he revealed he was VT on day 3.

[mattblackguy]

Im jailing Frogger tonight

Just letting u know just in case he self hammers.
If I change my mind I'll let y'all know before day ends

[mattblackguy]

RC is conf town. Scum tried to kill Rauth night 2. RC wouldn't try to night kill someone he knew was faking an inno on him if he was scum.

[mattblackguy]

No harm in giving Grendel and Frogger a chance to say something

[mattblackguy]

Hey, sorry for all the trolling RC, I've decided I'm not shitposting anymore which includes trolling so.

VOTE: Gin

This lasted long

[mattblackguy]

Gin can u tell us who your partner is?

[mattblackguy]

Also Nancy thanks for pushing the lynch off of me day 3. We might have lost if you didn't.

[mattblackguy]

Deadass, RC "scum read my slot" but if she was a cop, she didn't cop my slot on the previous nights, if she was actually suspect and had that power she would have actually used it then and not now.

That is a good point. Ugh I'm starting to get paranoid of RC. Wouldn't it make sense for her to immediately CC the fake backup claim? I'm gonna sleep on this some

UNVOTE:

[mattblackguy]

Hey Gin. Who's RC's partner?

[mattblackguy]

Today's Monday.

[mattblackguy]

Shit it's still Sunday for you... Well you win this time I guess.

[mattblackguy]

wow Frogger isn't voting me

[mattblackguy]

Uh u were also wrong on Sheep. Also wrong on me. Also wrong that Keyser is scum if I'm Town. Pretty sure that's more than 2

[mattblackguy]

So u base all of ur reads off of one terrible read that had barely anything to suppprt it? I can see if LUV was being super obvious Town but that didn't happen.

[mattblackguy]

I am a fucking good town player.

So this is a lie?

[mattblackguy]

It'd be good to know for future reference.

[mattblackguy]

I know you're not bad. You're just scum this game

[mattblackguy]

Also Nancy thanks for pushing the lynch off of me day 3. We might have lost if you didn't.

Nancy, I don't understand your memes.
Does this mean you're gana beat me up