Can we have rule on "political slur"?

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Take this nonsense to PMs

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Isn't this ongoing?

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Actually Republicans are more than happy to talk to you at tedious length and explain in a very convoluted way why global warming is a hoax, even though it's all wrong.

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Curious: Grey, supposed someone with their location set as Texas, USA flipped Vigilante, and someone went "hah! Of course the Texan flips vig!" is that OGI?

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Curious: Grey, supposed someone with their location set as Texas, USA flipped Vigilante, and someone went "hah! Of course the Texan flips vig!" is that OGI?

Nice strawman.

If it only had a brain!

>tfw legitimately trying to understand your pov without making any point geared towards one side or another and gets called a strawman

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You sound like a Muslim, demonizing anyone you disagree with.

Next thing you know, you'll be calling me an infidel and blowing me up with a suicide vest.

(Since such bigotry is fair game, I'm sure you're not offended by this)

Not only does this violate your own rule about being a dick, it is also a strawman - Infinity clearly does not think bigotry is fair game, and any reasonable/good faith reading of their posts would support that.

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Oh, this arguing is really tedious. Let's just skip to the part where we determine who is right.

@Infinity: Was your post 61 signalling that you had no problem with bigoted speech?

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I think that no amount of deduction can overrule a person's own authority over their mind. I think that it is dangerous, rude and extremely bad behavior to attempt to instruct someone on what is inside their mind.

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And, like, Infinity thinking that it's not reportable or indefensible for Realeo to say "spoken like a true Republican" does not imply that they believe that it's okay for you to say "all Muslims demonize people they don't agree with". That is a strawman.

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The generalizations are different in the level of loadedness and bigotry that they represent and the context is widlly different.

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The point that sways me is what the substance of the negative remarks is. In the first case, Realeo was implying that Republicans have dubious explanations for their ideas. This is, while inappropriate for a mafia game, not reportable. In the second case, you are implying that Muslims actively demonize and mistreat people who are not Muslim or who disagree with them. This is a level of insult that goes above and beyond saying that their logic is dubious, and therefore to consider the two equal is strawmannish.

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Regarding the original debate, I feel that Grey's point is correct. "Don't be a dick" and moderator judgement is more than sufficient for mafia games. If the line is not clear, simply take steps to ensure that you're very far away from the general vincinity of the line, like I do.

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The point that sways me is what the substance of the negative remarks is. In the first case, Realeo was implying that Republicans have dubious explanations for their ideas. This is, while inappropriate for a mafia game, not reportable. In the second case, you are implying that Muslims actively demonize and mistreat people who are not Muslim or who disagree with them. This is a level of insult that goes above and beyond saying that their logic is dubious, and therefore to consider the two equal is strawmannish.

I feel also like the bigotry is a step above due to the level of misrepresentation of the victim category in question. Republicans not believing in global warming isn't a far fetched claim; their political candidate announced his belief in this. They would certainly contest that they do explain it, but this is at worst a quibble about how they go about pushing their claims onto others.

On the other hand, saying that Muslims demonize others is completely false and a blatant caricature of Muslims and the Islamic religion in general. That is nowhere near reality and can be construed as an inflammatory picture only used to mock Muslims, hence why it is worse.

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Well, I've laid out my arguments as to why I think Realeo's statements about Republicans aren't as dickish as your hypothetical post about Muslims.

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Religion is a physical part of you?

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Let's face it, if you went into a game and called someone scum and someone told you your scumread was similar to Hitler's arguments, you'd probably find it more amusing than anything.

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Mafia scum is draconian?