[Game Over] Open 673 - Tit for Tat

[Charloux]

VOTE: Cooperative Sheep

[Charloux]

Also Charloux, I swear I won't be bad at the video game this time.

-Ali

I'm not mad at you! I just pretended to be so i could get some info from you!

VOTE: Sesq

Anyway, RANDOM.ORG COMPELLS ME...
VOTE: Charloux

I used that as well, but since i was first on the list, i decided to vote for someone else.

[Charloux]

And happy scumday Bella!
Now get that damn vote off me please! It kinda stings

[Charloux]

theplague42: What's your usual Day One strategy to sniff out scum?

Why ask how he plays as town and not as scum? And nonchalantly saving it for last. I like to think that preserving your cards is essential in mafia regardless of alignment, so i consider this question kinda bad.
What's your prior experience with mafia? Face to face maybe?

[Charloux]

What's more important to you; Having fun or winning? And how far would you go to win a game?

[Charloux]

Baaaaa
I could also lynch Sesq

I know this isn't really a scumtell, but i always get scum vibes when people talk about lynching 1/2 days into the game.

Liking intermission for town.

[Charloux]

Intermission said that this is his first game in years. I can't help it but think of him as a time traveler; So i tried thinking about it and him playing overly cautious fits the picture. My questions towards him were mainly to see what kind of person he is. If he made a facade, there will likely be ripples in the future. So far i think his scum game is nearly identical to his town ones, but him putting in additional effort and his answers in general are enough for a townread at this stage of the game.

[Charloux]

Well it's more effort than you or me did at least.

[Charloux]

I think there is a misunderstanding. For me content=/= effort. Effort is purely how much time you spend making posts. Content is something noteworthy that happened in the game;
For example we are looking at a dog
Me: That's an ugly dog - Useless fluff
Intermission: Wow, what a dirty dobberman, bla bla bla - Elaborate fluff with a lot of effort put into it
Jester: Broken leg, beaten up. Calling the cops to arrest his owner. - Short, shrewd deduction that actually has a purpose.

Basically i give Intermission town points for effort.

[Charloux]

I did say at this point of the game. If no content is provided after a while even a saint would get lynched.
Reads will change soon most likely so i don't feel like sharing my other reads that are based mainly on gut. The only reason i mentioned Intermission is because he is the only one with non-rvs votes currently.

[Charloux]

Just skimmed through, mentally exhausted rn.
@Transcend: You occasionally go into this state where you vote someone and then don't want to elaborate on it or cooperate with us. What happens actually? Are you a lazy bum or your reads are purely gut and it would be a drag to explain them?
@Frog: Could be because i didn't read this properly, but i see some unlaborated naked votes that are just staying around. How do you tell the difference when it's scummy and when it's not?

[Charloux]

All votes are for pressure actually, so you using it as a scumtell is ridiculous. And sesq did provide reads after sheeps vote. The other things you noted about him seem legit so i think i'll shift my Rvs vote to a real one.
Sesq's vote in 115 could be a preemptive strike on his wagon, but i don't currently see the possibility of sheep and him being scum together.

[Charloux]

I think this is the 3rd game i'm playing with him, and i remember him doing this before. Not wanting to elaborate his reads is NAI in his case. Btw being a lazy bum isn't AI, so he can be scum.

[Charloux]

I sr Kop

[Charloux]

I claim Town backup cop. Now that the Mafia backup jailer is dead, I am just a named VT. Will catch up soon because I didnt have acess to the computer for 5 days. The guy who hammered early has my thanks because I wouldve been replaced.
Transc is scum most likely. Kop was never a SR, was just copying how trans does his reads to try and annoy him because he didnt answer my filler question

[Charloux]

Town backup rolecop*
I cant find goons and I dont have the night ability before the mafia rolecop dies. So, yeah pretty much a named VT

[Charloux]

His fake hammer on Sheep. He either knew he would flip scum and so decided to hammer him, but whoops he was already on him. OR he forgot about his vote on him and he wanted to cut the day short. Note that the vig would shoot him most likely like he shot our local drunkard.
I can't deny him just wanting attention. Bella you played with him the most right? Which of these is most likely for town!Trans and scum!Trans?

Spoiler:

VOTE: sheep

why didn't someone say he was l-1

oh i was already voting that way

boring

After a Sheep hammer was unavoidable he decided to... Cut the day short and get some town cred? Seems about right

Spoiler:

alternatively just lolhammer and be done with it

did it get hammered lol

His read progression on me. Note that i haven't said anything and it just naturally went from "scummy for discrediting my townreads" to "scum, lynch it"

Spoiler:

i did not like charloux immediately discrediting my tr on kop

Sheep/Sesq/Charloux are my current scum leans.

decent scumpile ngl. could rope up charloux too.

kop and bella opinions?

yeah im probably instantly egovoting charloux at the start of tomorrow

Okay then, how about this
VOTE: Charloux

[Charloux]

Read Sesq's and Sheeps interaction from D1, i don't see them being scum together.
VOTE: Transcend

[Charloux]

I have an inferiority complex concerning my reads, so Transcend getting 4 votes without any resistance is alarming to me.
He is at L-1 right now, you forgot to add btw.

[Charloux]

The flavor said that scum shot Plague, and then the vig came and killed him. Then the scum killed siblings.

[Charloux]

I'm reading the opposite. Killer said he's the vigilante when he shoots SQ. First killer just shoots.

I just remembered that the mod doesn't say who killed who, just who died. The story had to be like this because of wifom; But it's easy to conclude who killed whom. Like Kop said, the vig wouldn't kill siblings.

[Charloux]

Caps and cool words like eviscerate mean nothing to me. You just have him as scum, you didn't even say why except the L-1 thing.
At least make a case with something like "He is scum because he... i dunno claimed scum in post #, made a scummy statement in post #" or something similar.
And can someone explain to me what an Ego vote is? If you have a problem with me please say it to my face, i promise not to start an argument.

[Charloux]

@Transcend: You occasionally go into this state where you vote someone and then don't want to elaborate on it or cooperate with us. What happens actually? Are you a lazy bum or your reads are purely gut and it would be a drag to explain them?

If you answer this, I will sheep you once unless it's mylo.

[Charloux]

UNVOTE: Transcend
I'm a bit irritated you got off the hook without making a proper case on anybody, but *shrugs*. I think i'll implement your gameplay into mine a bit (the lazy part), i think it'll suit me nicely.
I don't have a strong scumread, so i will put my vote based on POE. Jester and Sesq seem town enough so i will leave them alone for today. I dont really see Bella's towntells though. Someone with a tr on her can freely share their view with me, but i doubt i will vote her today either regardless. Soo that leaves me with Inter, matt, mitchell, Kop. Need to narrow it down a bit more somehow. And as promised, you get to control my vote once Trans.

[Charloux]

I think i noticed something, but would be anti-town to say it.

[Charloux]

*head-desk* then you fake a reason. jesus.

Come on! You should know by now how i operate Bella. I don't like to lie, but i will try to get you to come to a wrong conclusion on your own accord by not saying everything or saying it in a way that can be easily misunderstood ~♪
@Sesq: Check my ISO m8; And how did you even miss it, there were about 5 posts about it at the start of the day.

[Charloux]

Charloux, can you tell me your reads on Sesq, Intermission, and projectmatt?

Not willing to lynch Sesq today. Inter and matt lynches are acceptable, but im reluctant in voting matt untill he gets his laptop fixed.
VOTE: Inter

[Charloux]

I see! Would you mind sharing your solid case on your current vote? Also, you voted for Transcend cuz of your own scum read on him, i would like to hear about that as well a little.

[Charloux]

We might also want to discuss the vig kill for tonight.

[Charloux]

If you don't cc me I am conftown, your current vote is essentially a scumclaim in that sense.

[Charloux]

Rather than matt, sesq should be killed by the vig. I don't want someone who doesn't know what a confirmed PR is anywhere near lylo. The weight of these words should be that much stronger because someone unskilled as me is saying them.

[Charloux]

You want to lynch me, who claimed a PR that is part of the setup and hasn't been counter claimed. Regardless of your alignment, that's a bad move Sesq. I don't even know what it is you want to accomplish by "pushing" me.

[Charloux]

I claimed to be a backup rolecop. If you are that role, you will know that i am lying about it and you would then counter claim me, or cc for short.

[Charloux]

Your reactions have still sat with me very wrong

*Face-desking*
I give up.

[Charloux]

Could you elaborate your reads on EMC and Kop?

[Charloux]

My gut is telling me that it's Kop.

[Charloux]

Scum had to go for the JK tonight, maybe they really thought Sesq was a PR

[Charloux]

gg, and thanks for carrying me guys!