Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[bangthemafia]

Idk. I don't think it's something that we deal with right now. If a scum watcher flips though we pretty much autolynch Spade.

@Prince, please explain this for lesser mortals like me! What has a scum watcher flip got to do with Spade?

I have no idea what you guys are rambling about. Stop overanalyzing my posts.

I thought it would bring a wifom situation essentially. Me saying protective powers please protect Schadd, means they can choose to protect or not. So mafia would have to take a risk in trying to night kill Schadd.

Sheeesh!!!

I know Spade's style too. This is just his playstyle. Though those posts about Schadd being Nighkill target were unnecessary, I dont think Scum!Spade is naive enough to suddenly come into limelight by making these posts out of blue.

So you find the above two reactions as town but the below one as scum? Care to explain it further?

The others are less cautious and follow the more likely path of starting with the lurker might be scum (though that's a site meta that needs some serious fixing imo). Though Persivul's is more the skeptic path, it's still a "this might be scum" kind of reaction which is weakly townie. You on the other hand seem to have a preconception that I'm town, which only scum should have.

Seems like you are just going along with what everyone is saying.

Who or what sayings am I going along with? Are you concerned about something here?

Diasgree. A pissed off Town!Spade can talk very curtly. Nothing scummy about it

[bangthemafia]

By the end of page 15, my scumleans are
Daves for throwing shade on Spade out of a small reaction of "Your thoughts?"
And Kill for buddying Trans

[bangthemafia]

VOTE: Spade

This was a BAD vote and without any reasoning. Thats BAD.

I don't necessarily disagree, but care to explain why?

VOTE: Spade

Sheeping Titus. Don't hink i have ever done that before.
I also don't like Spade's speculation on reasons for schadd to be alive tomorrow. Setting up WINFOM shit.

That was a quick wagon!

That sounds like a setup to explain why they are still alive.

I also don't like Spade's speculation on reasons for schadd to be alive tomorrow.

Why do you say that? Do you feel Schadd is scum??

I can see people jumping on Spade for those 2 posts. But I dont think that was scummy. Like, yes, Spade could still be a scum, and he is quite good at it. But I am not ready to suspect him for those 2 posts right now.

VOTE: Spade

VOTE: Titus

That was quite a quick change of mind!

[bangthemafia]

Sorting Uzi will be unnecessary, except as it relates to Titus.
I think Titus is very unusual this game. Upbeat entrance "let's rock this" or something like that, and then she fell flat. Which is kinda what Uzi did too.
That is informative, but unfortunately it may not be AI.

At this point, Spade wagon had started dying with 4 votes on it, and Titus wagon had started building it.

Just few posts back, Daves had agreed with Titus about Titus's Spade vote with "Kinda agree, but give your reason". Still Daves himself was not voting anyone. Now, that the Titus wagon started building up, this post (405) looks an attempt to fence-sit. Saying "yeah, this is unusual, but may not be AI". Like a background work to go whichever way the balance tilts.

[Transcend]

VOTE: davesaz

[schadd_]

VOTE: bangthemafia

i got a false positive on him reading open 657 but this feels different

wait jk i got a correct positive on him

[bangthemafia]

VOTE: Titus

not really liking the refusal to explain why alban's town when your answers haven't been clear

spade vote also seals my tr of that slot

^that's L-2 if my count is correct

Agree and like this thought process.

VOTE: Spade

Sheeping Titus. Don't hink i have ever done that before.
I also don't like Spade's speculation on reasons for schadd to be alive tomorrow. Setting up WINFOM shit.

also i want to say this is town

but now that i am 99.9% sure that lyon is who i think he is and he scumreads it i really want to know why he didn't like this slot earlier

Not so confident as Giga, but for this same post, Whemme leans townier to me.

VOTE: Titus

not really liking the refusal to explain why alban's town when your answers haven't been clear

spade vote also seals my tr of that slot

^that's L-2 if my count is correct

According to you, i am scum. Why? Coz I posted very suspicious content. How long was the content? All of 3 lines. Have you posted scummy posts yourself? Check. Have others done that this game? Check.

Who else is scummy? Titus and their slot must be scum. Why? Coz they think i am town.

Point no. 3. Spade must be town. Why? Coz Titus thinks Spade is scummy. Titus, who is scummy because they dont think i am scum, finds spade scummy, hence spade must be town.

As if the scums can't fake any of these things just for your convenience.

You are one of the most confidently naive players i have seen in my 1 year on the site.

Either that, or all this bad play style us a facade.

I know it sounds weird, but I agree with alban too. I feel alban is not unusual in any way in this game. I have had a very bad experience with scum!alban my last game. And still I maintain, this is alban's usual playstyle. His frustration here comes from a town mindset, is what I feel.

VOTE: Titus
So unlike town!Titus I've seen many times. The one time I've seen Titus avoid she was scum and I called it.
L-2

This is bussing!

[bangthemafia]

According to you, i am scum. Why? Coz I posted very suspicious content. How long was the content? All of 3 lines. Have you posted scummy posts yourself? Check. Have others done that this game? Check.

Who else is scummy? Titus and their slot must be scum. Why? Coz they think i am town.

Point no. 3. Spade must be town. Why? Coz Titus thinks Spade is scummy. Titus, who is scummy because they dont think i am scum, finds spade scummy, hence spade must be town.

As if the scums can't fake any of these things just for your convenience.

You are one of the most confidently naive players i have seen in my 1 year on the site.

Either that, or all this bad play style us a facade.

first point, length of content has nothing to do with scumminess? forced reads are forced reads. you could write essays and i could have a nullread on you, you could make 1 post all game and i can have you as my strongest town/scumread. so you completely miss the mark on why i even scumread you but let's keep going

i don't think titus is scummy for thinking you're town. i think titus is scummy for not engaging with me on the specifics behind that read when the reasons they've given can make the read go either way. you could be town and titus scum, your alignment has nothing to do with titus's. yes, i think you're both scummy but it's not associative at all. your logic here seems to suggest it is

spade is town because i didn't like the way titus voted for them. it didn't look like a bus to me. that read is a little associative, but there's nothing naive in thinking that a wagon is on town lynchbait because people are overplaying how scummy he is and a scummier slot is jumping on him.

so i have no idea what you're trying to insinuate here

This seems more like the post hoc analysis rooted in being tunneled. Every single point in your 'essay' points to a presumptuous and naive rhetoric. This is still nai. Maybe a lil bit scummy. Right now i am not sure if you are a tunneled and patronising townie or aggressive scum pushing a less active slot.

Cant shake this feeling that this is town vs town

[Transcend]

dudes

[Transcend]

bang is town

[bangthemafia]

oh shoot bang might be mafia ;-;

Completed reading everything. And cant stop laughing!!! Understand why everyone jumped on me!

The thing is that I keep feeling getting influenced my last played game. Of course I can be wrong, but I tend to keep thinking the frustrations usually arise from town mindset. Whether that applies to Giga-Alban interaction or not, I am not confident. Nevertheless, I just hope it is not a scum-scum charade. Right now, I will ISO each player and then make up my mind.

By the way, my reads till now-
Strong town- Transcend, Prince Lyon, GigabyteTroubadour
Town lean- Alban, Spade_Ace
Null- Dunnstral, schadd_, PenguinPower, WhemePlay
Scum lean- davesaz, Killthestory, Persivul, Titus

VOTE: Davesaz

But I will shift to Titus if that wagon builds.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

gonna see if i want to respond to anything more in-depth later but

bang why does alban's frustration ping you as town?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

bang is so awkward

like scummy awkward

no

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also bang im not a he

she or they is fine for me

[WhemePlay]

We are townier to BTM, plus they will shift to Titus if the wagon builds!!!

VOTE: Titus

L-2?

What will happen next?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

didjebwnsufurheh

srceenplay ilu lmao

[gigabyteTroubadour]

team shitpost: {transcend, kts, srceenplay, dunnstral, schadd_}

^^ wont lynch these folks wo a guilty only for sheer entertainment value ^^

although i do tr all of them

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh lol i meant whemeplay not just the one head

[Killthestory]

what are you on about i didn't buddy transcend i just made him my b-

uh

yeah never mind i totally buddied transc but in a townie way you fool

[Persivul]

UNVOTE:

In this setup, first seed (Titus) should be here obvtowning herself. Disappointing that she isn't. That said, I'm not lynching first seed on D1. Gotta give her the opportunity for a night action and see what happwens.

Generally I don't read into replace outs, but this one was weird. Personally I play this setup because the draft mechanism is unique. Someone winning first seed then saying they can't get into the game is bizarre.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

by first seed do you mean the top portion of the draft

because schadd_ is technically the first seed...?

[Persivul]

by first seed do you mean the top portion of the draft

because schadd_ is technically the first seed...?

I shouldn't play sick. Was looking at the player list, not the draft...

That makes the replace out less weird.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i mean the idea still kind of makes sense considering luv was third in the draft

idk i dont think the replace out itself means anything but it's interesting

[alban]

Could mean they chose a role which was already taken, and ended up being vt or mg. Must be damn frustrating to be third and yet get nothing. But looking at their posts, it seems more likely that they were frustrated with the players rather than with their role.

[bangthemafia]

gonna see if i want to respond to anything more in-depth later but

bang why does alban's frustration ping you as town?

Because thats how he is. He gets tunnelled on someone quite easily, engages in one on one, and also gets frustrated easily.