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Initial first glance is I am thinking this is scum sidedShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Ohh wait, I misunderstood the "Neighbor Cop" I thought that was a Cop who could only check if someone was in PTs or not.
Okay, that changes it to town sided.
It would probably be better if you limit Cop to only checking the neighbors to make it like a "Mason hood"
That could be your grey list role.
Problem is that there is a "Follow the Cop" issue even with the role blocker for scum team.
I would really still limit scum power here. A strongman and role blocker isn't necessary.
Either or, but both don't seem needed.
I guess the power is to justify a Cop and a Doctor being in same game, but still makes it very "Swingy" and unbalanced.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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I am actually not sure if this initial setup is town sided or scum sided. But considering scum usually always have more info, it probably still is scum sided since theres two ways to stop the Doctor or Cop (Strongman or Roleblocker)Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Yeah, thats the problem with putting in a cop and doc into a setup. you have to give scum pretty powerful guns in order to "deal" with it.
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Yes, since Doctor cannot be blocked for all their shots or waste shots anymore. Would definitely improve the Doctor+Cop combo, and kind of allow you to keep scum power as is.In post 16, Shaziro wrote:Secondly, would removing the 2-shot modifier on the doctor make it sufficiently less scumsided?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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This is good.In post 15, Shaziro wrote:You are a Scum Traitor
You are a member of the Scum Faction, along with X and Y. They do not know who you are, but they are aware that there is a Scum Traitor in this game.
If your faction members target you for a nightkill, you -will- die. You cannot privately communicate with them in any way. You cannot be directly recruited by any means, and if you are the last remaining member of your team you will be endgamed.
Your powers include your voice and your vote! Use them well.
You win the game when the Mafia control 50% of the vote
Confirm your role by replying to me with your Role and Alignment.
Good luck!Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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I think this is going too far in other way? I mean, if the Roleblocker at all gets lynched early, scum are really screwed on a full Cop and Doc game.In post 19, mhsmith0 wrote:Town
Cop
Doc
Fruit vendor or bodyguard
However you want to do neighbors
Scum
Roleblocker
Goon
Traitor
I guess you could do something like a Even Night and a Odd Night role blocker for scum team, so that makes that problem less of a issue.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Yes.In post 25, Shaziro wrote:Sounds interesting. So it'd be a traitor, an even night RB and an odd night RB?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Is traitor required to be known to scum team for normals (I am having a brain fart)In post 26, Empking wrote:I think three Neighbours - particularly with the Cop in the Neighbourhood and godfathers being banned - work perfectly fine without feeling the need for a Fruit Vendor or similar. Particularly with the traitor being so weak.
I also think the traitor mechanics ought to be in the main team's PMs.
I have no problem with Fruit Vendor, especially if Shaziro makes it so scum can act and perform kills on same night, reduces fruit vendor to complete fluff. Right now its only marginal good at telling you thats unlikely scum.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Shaziro, do you want to keep the Fruit Vendor?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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That seems fine to me.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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i already said this but ill repeat:
Approved with FireShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown - Firebringer
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