~laundry~ FIN

[McMenno]

So unless you're now saying you actually don't give someone a sock...I'm still going to lynch you because that's scummy as fuck

I read my role pm wrong holy fuck idk what I can say without breaking the rules

am I allowed to say words in my role pm

vanilla

tee hee hee

Despite what people say I can see a Limited (1shot) Scum Vig in this game given the surprising lack of scum power we've seen so far and the speculation that we have two protective roles, even if one is non-standard.
I know this means little but hey, its here and I'm dying so let's get this clear.

if you believe drealmerz is scum then

three

protective roles

[Andrius]

Look, Menno.
I'm getting my incoherent thoughts out here given my death approaches.
I'm not SAYING he's a Scum Vig, I'm SAYING that it wouldn't be OUT OF REALITY.
I could FURTHER ARGUE that Ep, Spy, Magna were all in THE THING MAFIA and probably all were like YEAH SOMEONE HANDING OUT BULLETPROOF VESTS IS A GOOD ROLE.
I also think that the same THREE PEOPLE, 2 of whom were THINGS WITH ME as SOME OF YOU UNFONDLY REMEMBER, were part of a SCUMTEAM WITH A 1SHOT VIG THAT NEVER SHOT.
I do not think it would be TOO OUT OF SPECULATION to think that a Scum 1shot Vig might be in a game, especially if we're factoring in good protective roles, the synergy it has with the Scum 2shot RoleCop, and the dearth of Town PRs.
And the Bomb. Because that also increases the chance the bomb is USEFUL to the town.

I'm not SAYING HES SCUM 1shot VIG 100% certainty.
I think he's likely scum of SOME ROLE and I'm arguing DONT THROW OUT 1shot VIG given he held his one shot to N2/3 (whenever he claimed to shoot SAD I cant remember) especially given a failed shot is easy as crap to fake.

[McMenno]

no no I'm just correcting you because I'm a pedantic mofo

you said there are two protective roles in that case
I said there would be three: fb, zach and maria

of course we're talking in hypotheticals here

[Andrius]

I follow you.

Again, the point isn't trying to convince you DREAL IS LIMITED SCUM VIG.
I'm saying don't throw it out so easily esp given THE MOD TEAM ENJOYS SHENANIGANS.

[Andrius]

Still Want:
+Claim Info from Dreal
+Claim Info from Gerry

[Desperado]

i could vote dreal at this point

all of the vca pointed to him as well but i was reading him as town indepedently

and scum vig does indeed make the setup make sense

[Andrius]

I don't care that dreal doesn't like me asking this happens every game we're in together and I know THIS ISNT HOW YOUR HOMESITE WORKS AND WE DISAGREE ON POLICY but I don't care.
We're at massclaim and it would help.

[drealmerz7]

andrius I kind of have a hard time believing you believe my scum game is "this good"

I told all there was to tell

[drealmerz7]

and sure, WIFOM, but, I fake-claimed vig in In Memory as scum just a couple weeks ago...not something I'd do again, especially how it came out here

[Desperado]

you wouldn't really be fake claiming here tho

[drealmerz7]

oh right, well, either way

just N3 or later 1-shot vig. - I had to wait until the laundry got going before my power got utilized, like detergent

really bummed I shot the BP, and for the record, I will always shoot a fake claimer, no matter how likely it is they're town doing it

[Andrius]

andrius I kind of have a hard time believing you believe my scum game is "this good"

I told all there was to tell

I mean, saying that you'd fakeclaim vig as scum
and saying your scumgame is good
are two different things?

[drealmerz7]

nah it's about surviving and instilling doubt at this point, if I were scum, pretty ballsy position I'd be in right now

but I'm just craptown this game

[Andrius]

[Menno, Gerry, dreal, Desp, Maria, Pine]
+Pine town.
If: Menno Town.
And: Dreal town.

[Maria, Gerry, Desp]
A fullclaim from Gerry would be nice at this point.

[Andrius]

I didn't really want to full claim results but you guys are intent on lynching so..

Wait don't hammer yet. What nights did you use the role cops and on who each night.

N1: Fire
N2: Gerry

Gerry is a double visitor. It's also compulsive and with a loved modifier. There's also a potential effect but idk what that means.

Fire is a vest giver. He's not a gunsmith. Like idk where tf that would even come from.

[Andrius]

Okay I'm Jailkeeper

N1 McMenno (Wasn't here up to lynch - either way I missed Fro99er's claim and didn't go back to see anything)

N2 Maria

N3 Firebringer

N4 Pine

[Andrius]

Assuming that the LOVED modifier does what it did in the project I was reviewing for SpyreX, then there should be some sort of attachment.
hrm

[Andrius]

Also assuming Nos isn't making shit up.
But given he would have been CC'd that's less likely given both [FB, Gerry] were alive for Nos' lynch.

[Andrius]

FB also died the night after.
Gerry is still here.
If he is indeed loved, someone would know that.
And die with him.
Hrm.
So why isn't he dead?

[Andrius]

Pine also claimed Hated.

[Andrius]

1. Desperado, Miller 1shot Commuter
2. drealmerz7, 1shot N3-And-After Vig
4. Pine, 2shot Hated Bomb
6. MariaR, Twice-Consecutive Doctor
11. McMenno, VT
13. gerryoat, "Compulsive Loved Double Visitor"
17. Andrius, VT

[Andrius]

This is definitely biased but I don't see six votes on Creature in the 1.16 area and zero scum bussing the Goon.
[Menno, Gerry]

[Andrius]

Magna and Spy would get a kick out of having a Miller and a Weak Cop.

[Andrius]

D4 Recap without fun pictures and gifs because I don't care to put in this kind of effort for only a couple people.

Spoiler: Pt I

Pine and I open voting drealm out of the gate. I was still operating under the false pretense that we had a tracker guilty on dreal.

also gerry is probably scum more i think about it.

This is the day before he dies, for the record.

In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry

In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry

Itshappening.gif

vote: gerry

Maria should also prob be lynched cause she TR both obvious mafia

Leaning Town on Maria now. I don't think she hard defends both scum lynches as their buddy.

I literally can't believe i'm wagoned after i called out both mafia day 1. i can't believe people are this bad at mafia and have been on the site for so long.

This was kawaii desu the first million times you said it.

Now it's time to put up or shut up and full claim.

You do seriously think you should be getting anywhere near lylo with that attitude?

On day 4 you're still being anti-town. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt early on, but now it just sounds fake as hell.

There is zero evidence of a SK

Well if mafia shot the sheriff, who shot the deputy???

Also wanted to repost this for Firebringer because I saw it last night and want to remind him of his obligations:

by the end of this game, mark my words.
you will be drowning in dirty laundry andrius.
all over your profile image.

FB is now BrokenPromisesBringer.

drealmerz has been calling me scum all game, for example.
He's made zero effort to push a wagon on me. Instead he pushed Sly, who flipped town, and doesn't re-evaluate his reads.
So now he's on Gerry which, assuming they're not buddies, is going to be an easy lynch to push through and then spend all of D5 calling me scum (again) and not doing anything about it.

Coasting.
STRAHD and THING he screams over his scumreads.
Hell he engaged Tammy late D2 (or was it D3 I can't remember) into a screaming match that put THE FIRE in Tammy and I was super impressed with how easily he got her to fight.

He is doing 0% fighting.
0% solving.
0% pushing his scumread on me.
After screaming for my blood the other two games I've been in with him.

if you guys dont want maria for w/e reason, desp is the best vote

VOTE: Desperado

But I thought Maria was scum.
What gives.

You don't want the person who led on 2 mafia in lylo is comical

Wtf are you talking about.

You did literally nothing.

frankly if ur in lylo gerry, i am 100% sure u will be the scum of the group right now.

VOTE: drealmerz7
Scum whining he's caught for the wrong reasons.

*sigh* unfortunately.
VOTE: dreal

In a new revelation

Vote: Gerry

pls no

Town:
Zachstralkita
Pine
Ser Arthur Dayne
MariaR
Firebringer
gerryoat

Which leaves a current lynch pool of:
Desperado - on creature, off sly, off nacho
drealmerz7 - off creature, on sly, off nacho
McMenno - on creature, on sly, on nacho
Andrius - on creature, off sly, on nacho

Not entirely sure if menno would jump outta the gate bussing both of his scumbuddies, but he's also been on every lynch this game and doesn't ooze town like others in this game.
Andrius was on both scum lynches, off of sly, and interactions with Tammy seemed like they were on the same team, and since Tammy was a mason, ipso facto, you get the deal.
Desperado I honestly stopped paying attention to awhile ago, but he hasn't exactly been hitting the mark on his reads so far with creature push and gerry push along with nacho townread (although admittedly I thought nacho was town too).
Dreal was flailing really hard for most of this game pretty unnecessarily which is why assumed he was a VI in this game too, but maybe this is just his scum meta? Idk since I've not read any of his games.

In terms of likelihood of flipping scum:
1. Dreal
2. Desperado
3. McMenno
4. Andrius

Nos's sudden enthusiasm against drealmerz makes me really uncomfortable.

VOTE: Nosferatu

I'd like to see this flip.

Why? Also dreal can have really bad actions as town. Why do you scum read him?

His consistent flailing at basically everything. I feel like town dreal would get the memo by now. He's so jumpy.

There's glimpses of Zach-town in nacho's ISO.

Maria is p town from nacho's ISO.

mcmenno scummy, nos never mentioned, pine might look like double bussing, Gerry reads fake as hell. Andrius is mehh I don't think partners would go back and forth so much idk maybe they both like scum and are willing to out that much effort but I don't really see it.

wow that quote failed completely

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

vote: nosferatu

But Gerry isn't on it..

I think one of {Gerry, mcmenno} scum + Nos.

Like, "player X hasn't done shit but has been on the right wagons" is a pretty good definition for good scum play

Re: Gerry, Menno
The Inverse being Maria who's off all the good wagons [Creature, Nacho] and on the bad ones [Sly].

I've witnessed him do that in games he will say stuff like "yes that is a very good lynch" but his vote will just be somewhere else but he doesn't act like it fazes him

He did it last game and he was town ... I think when he says he doesn't care about the game he really means it

Then why does he care so much about getting lynched.

Seriously gerry + dreamz's attitude of "I don't give a fuck about the game lololol" "Oh holy you're gonna lynch me you're all fucking stupid how can people be this bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Yeah okay.

How many is it to lynch?

With 11, 6.

{Me, Desperado, Maria, Andrius, Firebringer, Pine} voting bloc would be good. Majority to agree to a lynch. I doubt there's more than 1 scum in here, if any.

Friendly reminder that we're now down two bloc members.

[Andrius]

I am discussing something with EP.
I will not resume until it has been resolved.