[SETUP] Watchmen Wanted

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Actually, this is kind of interesting. Since scum know town always has a watcher, they have to make their kill choices carefully. However it is kind of a guessing game ultimately and a lot of the game is decided by whether the watcher happens to choose the right target.

Given the fact that the watcher claim is a conftown that just creates a different conftown when the scum kills it, plus the fact that the watcher can claim results with impunity, makes me think the setup should be 8:3.

Interestingly enough, scum could just refuse to kill and make the game nightless (especially if it's 8:3). Probably wouldn't help them but it's an interesting consideration.

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Basically, I think it's correct for scum to just leave alive the watcher, which means town basically gets a BP IC watcher.

Roleblocker would be interesting though. In that case, town would probably have to hypoclaim (i.e. everyone gives results as if they were a watcher). Then the watcher probably would not claim until lylo, to avoid being roleblocked. My gut says it's about as powerful for scum as one less mislynch because town doesn't get guilties until later on and there's a chance that the watcher actually does get blocked.

Funnily, it's probably sometimes correct in the roleblocker case to lynch the watcher once it's outed, because it gives town another confirm and scum don't know who to roleblock.

Interesting setup.

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Hmm, didn't think about scum counterclaiming watcher. That means watcher claims the day before lylo with a roleblocker probably. That's a significant advantage to scum. With no roleblocker, scum can't really counterclaim anyway.

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True, but then that just gives town another conftown. Might be a reason for watcher not to claim d2 without a roleblocker, if it has a guilty I'd still claim though.

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Well the scum get their choice of who to kill if they don't keep killing the watcher, but I agree that the risk of getting watched outweighs that.

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Thing is the watcher can just not claim until day before lylo then.

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I don't think scum giving the town a total of 2+ extra mislynches is better than just hoping to outguess them at night

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9v3 is even worse for town than 8v3. Maybe 10v3 with roleblocker since roleblocker doesn't actually do that much if town doesn't claim

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That one is 9:3