XnadrojX's Mini Normal Review the Second

XnadrojX · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:33 pm

I wanted to play with the idea of someone getting someone else's results, I think it's balancable with a bit of power shifting. I overestimated the power of getting someone's results though, I didn't consider the overlapping power. Possibly replace one of the friendly neighbours with a inspecting role? I can probably cut the mafia jailkeeper and/or traitor.
I think replacing Mafia JailKeppeer with another VT and replacing the omeshot friendly neighbour with a 1-shot rolecop(?) Should balance it better? Or maybe if it's hopeless I can probably remake the whole setup

XnadrojX · Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:34 pm

I've checked and it should fit under normal boundaries, "inspecting" should fit the bill there

XnadrojX · Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:23 pm

Oh, I see.
I can probably remake the setup and change a few things, like cutting the mass result obtaining and balancing a few more things.
New setup coming in a moment.

XnadrojX · Post Post #9 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:28 pm

Changes:
Psychic having it's mass result obtaining removed (now a miller doublevoter)
Mafia JailKeeper changed to a Vanilla Townie
Mafia Traitor changed to Mafia Traitor GodFather
1-Shot Friendly Neighbour changed to Even-Night Cop

XnadrojX · Post Post #11 (isolation #4) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:41 am

Really? Must have been some time since I last checked. Change to an Ascetic instead, and I think it looks balanced?

XnadrojX · Post Post #14 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:09 pm

I think I'll keep them as cops, it makes the Miller Doublevoter have more of a ppint. Also I've been using MafiaScum's definition of Normal before I joined MafiaScum, on another site, and I've pretty much not really seriously looked through the list since then.

XnadrojX · Post Post #15 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:17 pm

In post 0, Nexus wrote:
XnadrojX wrote:

The Setup
Town

2-Shot Friendly Neighbour

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
2-shot Friendly Neighbour

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
Not only that, you are also a very friendly person, so during the night, you may head out to town to inform someone of your faction. You only have enough confidence to talk to two people however, so choose wisely.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (2-Shot Friendly Neighbour) and faction (Town).

Odd-Night Cop

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Odd Night Cop

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
Not only that, you are also a very alert person, so during the night, you may look out of your window and spy on one person's door to look at what activity goes on there so you can determine their alignment. However, you are incredibly superstitious, and you only believe you should inspect on odd-numbered nights.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Odd-Night Cop) and faction (Town).

Even-Night Cop

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Odd Night Cop

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
Not only that, you are also a very alert person, so during the night, you may look out of your window and spy on one person's door to look at what activity goes on there so you can determine their alignment. However, you are incredibly superstitious, and you only believe you should inspect on even-mbered nights.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Odd-Night Cop) and faction (Town).

Foreign Psychic

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Foreign Psychic

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are trained in the arts of the psychic, which allows you to view events from a disembodied perspective. This allows you to have a second which you cast through PMing me. This vote will NOT be registered in the VC but it will be counted. The second vote may be on two different people, or all on one person. Due to the fact you come from a foreign land, people have some doubts about you, and you will inspect unfavourably to cops. This is not explicitly Normal, and you will flip with this Role PM.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Foreign Psychic) and faction (Town).

VT X 6

Mafia

Mafia Traitor Ascetic

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia Traitor

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are a old cast-away from the group of Mafia. You now wish to return but due to the chaos, you do not know who the Mafia is. However, the Mafia have been notified of your return. They do not know who you are as you sent the return letter anoynomously. You are Ascetic, and cannot be affected by any action other than kills.
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Ascetic Traitor) and faction (Mafia).

Mafia One-Shot Ninja

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia One-Shot Ninja

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are a trained disciple of a master of stealth. You were lured to the dark side by promises of power and cookies. You know the techniques of stealth, which means that actions you perform will not be seen by anyone but yourself. However, you only have the confidence to perform it once, which means you may only use your ninja techniques once
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Your faction has a factional kill at night which anyone of the Mafia faction may utilise to kill. You are informed that there is a Mafia Traitor out there on your side.
Your Mafia Private Topic is
here
, along with your partners ____ and ____
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (One-Shot Ninja) and faction (Mafia).

Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia Goon

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You were a regular citizen, but the Mafia have lured you to the dark side with promises of power and cookies.
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Your faction has a factional kill at night which anyone of the Mafia faction may utilise to kill. You are informed that there is a Mafia Traitor out there on your side.
Your Mafia Private Topic is
here
, along with your partners ___ and ___.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Vanilla) and faction (Mafia).

XnadrojX wrote:
Results
Spoiler: Friendly Neighbour
You were visited by a very friendly looking ___ last night, who informed you that they were town.

Spoiler: Cop
Your investigation revealed ___ to be Mafia/Not Mafia. {inspect succesful}
Your investiagtion did not return any results. {inspect was blocked}

XnadrojX · Post Post #16 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:18 pm

I'll fix the colouring in the role PMs when I PM then, am phonepost rn

XnadrojX · Post Post #19 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:29 pm

I can fix the role names and flavour and stuff, but the balance looks a bit hard.

I think I can cut the Friendly Neighbour.
I think I can make the Traitor a full goon and make one of the cops a RoleCop and change it to X-Shot(2-3?) instead.
I could also give the scum a RoleBlocker now that I've broken the balance in the other direction.

1 3S RoleCop
1 Odd-Night Cop
1 Miller DoubleVoter
1 Mafia Ascetic
1 Mafia OS Ninja
1 Mafia RoleBlocker
7 VTs

3:10 with scum having a RoleBlocker and Ascetic with Town having an OS RoleCop and Odd-Night Cop as well as delaying LyLo for a day with the Miler double voter seems balanced to me.
The Cop can force the claim off the DoubleVoter and get his inspect stopped by the Ascetic.
The RoleCop gets one-shot, which most likely hits a vanilla, the Miller DoubleVoter or the other cop, a Roleblocker or Ninja. Pretty much 9/12 times it is useless while 2/12 times it confirms a town, 1/12 it gets a scum.
RoleBlocker gets to fuck with all the investigative power but is otherwise not incredibly powerful with the VTs around.

Town potentially gets max 3 confirms day 2, possibly 2 confirms day 2, and scum has less must-kill targets, with the Miller DoubleVoter needing to be killed whle the cops can be roleblocked. It cuts the issue of the massive number of potential confos, but not too imbalanced when LyLo is further because of the miller doublevoter.

The setup right now

Town

7 VTs

Spoiler: Role PM

3S RoleCop

Spoiler: Role PM

Odd Night Cop

Spoiler: Role PM

Miller DoubleVoter

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia

Mafia Ascetic

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia RoleBlocker

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia One-Shot Ninja

Spoiler: Role PM

I think it looks balanced, but my balancing skills are incredibly bad, so yeah.
I've always wondered how do reviewers get so skilled at telling balance of a game.

XnadrojX · Post Post #21 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:16 pm

I always have this problem of overcompensating. ;;

I think I like the newer setup actually (looks cleaner) so I think I'm going to replace a VT with a 2-Shot Tracker, to give the Ninja an actual point. And change the RoleCop to a Gunsmith, which can catch scum more reliably but can also force a claim from a cop.

7 VT > 6 VT and a 2-Shot Tracker
3-Shot RoleCop > 3-Shot Gunsmith

And I think it looks like the old setup but with more scum power and more town power. Looks a little swingy but otherwise I think it looks like pretty balanced.

XnadrojX · Post Post #22 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:20 pm

Bump? Mastina mykonian smith?

XnadrojX · Post Post #26 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:06 pm

There's a lot of investigation power but a lot of it is mitigatable by potentially guiltying on a town and the amount of scum power.

The tracker is generally not considered am incredibly strong investigative due to the fact you can only guilty one person at most and it's easy to fakeclaim out, as well as potentially guiltying the other investigatives.

The gunsmith, although strong, is offset by the RoleBlocker and the potential to guilty on the cop.

The cop can guilty on the Miller, who itself is a power role, as well as being blocked by the RoleBlocker.

Scum can roleblock and kill the investigatives quite easily, and all but the cop can be claimed out of. The cop itself only gets at most 2 inspects out, and the inspects are stoppable by Roleblocker and the Ascetic. The gunsmith can be fakeclaim out of followed by a NK, Tracker has minimal power, and Cop can be Roleblocker until it can be killed in a timely manner.
And then the Miller Doublevoter's great power is offset by the fact that it can be guiltyed by the cop and that it's vote is hidden, meaning town has to waste a day to confirm the claim.

It's a little more to town favour than mountainous 10:3, but the chances of all the investigative power to not be incredibly successful offsets that. The best part of the power roles here is it's claimability, but investigatives in LyLo gets suspected more than usual.

The Ninja can be made a full Ninja but that just cuts into the Tracker's usability even more, which at that point I would prefer to cut the ninja and Tracker for a goon and VT instead.

XnadrojX · Post Post #27 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:29 pm

XnadrojX · Post Post #28 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:14 pm

Bump?

XnadrojX · Post Post #30 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:00 am

Smith mastina?

XnadrojX · Post Post #34 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:13 pm

3 roles, but not if they're all investigatives?

Usually it's a X-shot/X-Night Investigaive/Protective/utility with scum having a few power to compensate. But here the restrictions on the power roles aren't very restrictive, and they're all investigative and different types of them. They don't overlap like how a JK/Cop/Random Utility does.

And then we have a double voter. Who in fairness is a miller but having one more vote is immensely powerful imo

XnadrojX · Post Post #36 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:18 pm

No. If it's 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch. Which is why the DoubleVoter is so powerful. Town gets an extra vote which doesn't affect the threshold or is revealed, meaning that Town has a higher level of power over the day, making it harder for scum to drive mislynches..

XnadrojX · Post Post #37 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:25 pm

Well, even if it's weakened investigatives, they still collectively have a lot of investigation power in total. Roleblocker can't block 3 people and not likely allof them will target the ascetic or ninja in the case of the tracker.

XnadrojX · Post Post #38 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:30 pm

That's why I'm so unwilling to cut the RoleBlocker, I'm afraid the sheer collective power of the 3 town investigative are able to overwhelm the scum.

I might be more open to weakening the RoleBlocker, like make it X-shot or something. That way scum loses half a role.

XnadrojX · Post Post #43 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:47 pm

So the Final Setup is:

3-Shot Gunsmith
Odd-Night Cop
2-Shot Tracker
Miller Doublevoter
VT x 6

Mafia Ascetic
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Goon

XnadrojX · Post Post #45 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:53 pm

I guess you're right, but i think you're not considering that cops claiming also count as a clear, assuming it was not done under suspicious conditions.

XnadrojX · Post Post #48 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:23 pm

What do i do when different reviewers give conflicting advice?

I can't finalise the setup and redo the OP without everyone's approval, and having two reviewers with different opinions of balance makes it hard for me to balance it to everyone's standards.

I'll probably go home and do some EVing and see for myself how balanced the setup is.

XnadrojX · Post Post #56 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:55 am

Bump?

XnadrojX · Post Post #58 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:04 am

Currently only waiting on smith and mykonian to decide whether the rb is necessary or not

XnadrojX · Post Post #64 (isolation #24) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:53 pm

Mykonian?

XnadrojX · Post Post #66 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:16 pm

It appears that my reviewer is dead

XnadrojX · Post Post #65 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:16 pm

It appears that my reviewer is dead

XnadrojX · Post Post #67 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:16 pm

Oops double posted soz

XnadrojX · Post Post #71 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:48 pm

3-Shot Gunsmith
Odd-Night Cop
Miller Doublevoter
VT x 7

Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Was the agreed on setup?
It certainly doesn't look boring to host.

XnadrojX · Post Post #73 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:35 pm

Roles:

3-Shot Gunsmith
Odd-Night Cop
Miller Doublevoter
VT x 7

Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Rules:

The All Important Rules

General:
1. All site-wide rules apply here.
2. You may not quote your Role PM or any other moderator provided information directly, paraphrasing or copy/pasting is OK so long there is NO QUOTE
3. All votes must be in the format "VOTE: Nexus" and all requests to the moderator must be in the format "@MOD: (request)". These may NOT be hidden in any way.
4. Although this is a game about being an asshole, please be asshole to a certain extent. Do not go too far with your words or I may warn you or even replace you without notice. If you are unsure of what is OK, please PM me first (I'm generally quite tolerant).
5. Please inform of any mistakes I make
6. Do NOT use any form of sneaky tactics including but not limited to encrypted text, hidden messages, hard to see colours and small text
7. Do not attempt to game the system or pretend to break the rules in any way. If you do, sufficient punishment will be dealt.
8. I reserve the right to edit, add, or remove the rules to fix any loopholes.

Game Related:
1. My life sucks so I occasionally may not be able to provide a votecount. if this happens, I am incredibly sorry.
2. Days last 14 days, Night 48 hours, extensions may be granted on a case-by-case basis (e.g site crash, other major issue)
3. If you do not post within 48 hours, I will prod you.
4. If you are prodded, respond within 48 hours or I will replace you.
5. If i find a replacement at Night, the night will be extended by 24 hours to accomadate the new replacement.
6. You may make a "BAH!" post ONLY IF: You were not present during the twilight, and your post may only contain the letters "b", "a", and "h" along with an optional "!"
7. If you will be unable to be active in thread for over 48 hours, please make a V/LA post in bold. As long as the time is reasonable, you will be exempt from prods.
8. If someone receives 3 prods, I will forcefully replace them.
9. I reserve the right to edit, add, or remove these rules as well.

Sample PM:
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a Vanilla Townie
You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Vanilla) and faction (Town).
The game thread is here

This is my Mod Colour, all edits and VCs will be in this colour (#00FF00). DO NOT USE IT. (use #00FF40 for VCAing)

XnadrojX · Post Post #74 (isolation #30) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:49 am

Bump?

XnadrojX · Post Post #80 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:30 pm

3-Shot Gunsmith

Spoiler: Role PM

Spoiler: Results

Odd-Night Cop

Spoiler: Role PM

Spoiler: Results

Miller Doublevoter

Spoiler: Role PM

Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Role PM

XnadrojX · Post Post #82 (isolation #32) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:48 pm

Yeah, imagine that that's the real role PM ,re posting the thing will look ugly

XnadrojX · Post Post #85 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:00 pm

Scum can shoot and block simultaneously, i prefer PM and no show for the DoubleVoter (least information disclosed, inferrable after day one makes it not broken, as well as the fact it doesn't raise lynch requirements). I will send the scumtopic in a separate PM.

XnadrojX · Post Post #89 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:37 pm

I guess i could make the public double vote public if its the only one that conforms to normality. I guess it's Nexus' call as the List Mod to decide whether my version is normal

XnadrojX · Post Post #90 (isolation #35) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:46 pm

So Nexus?

XnadrojX · Post Post #92 (isolation #36) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:40 am

In post 0, Nexus wrote:
XnadrojX wrote:All right got everything ready.

First Post
A long, long, web in here, in a URL deep, deep, internal.
There was a website, called MAFIASCUM.
In this magical land, we played the amazing game known as mafia with people we've never met.
And that's what we're doing right now.

Welcome to Mini Normal ____ - In The Web

Spoiler: Players

Spoiler: Alive ?/13

Spoiler: Dead ?/13
Player Name: Player Role, Player Alignment

Second Post
The All Important Rules

General:

1. All site-wide rules apply here.
2. You may not quote your Role PM or any other moderator provided information directly, paraphrasing or copy/pasting is OK so long there is NO QUOTE
3. All votes must be in the format "VOTE: Nexus" and all requests to the moderator must be in the format "
@MOD: (request)
". These may NOT be hidden in any way.
4. Although this is a game about being an asshole, please be asshole to a certain extent. Do not go too far with your words or I may warn you or even replace you without notice. If you are unsure of what is OK, please PM me first (I'm generally quite tolerant).
5. Please inform of any mistakes I make
6. Do NOT use any form of sneaky tactics including but not limited to encrypted text, hidden messages, hard to see colours and small text
7. Do not attempt to game the system or pretend to break the rules in any way. If you do, sufficient punishment will be dealt.
8. I reserve the right to edit, add, or remove the rules to fix any loopholes.

Game Related:

1. My life sucks so I occasionally may not be able to provide a votecount. if this happens, I am incredibly sorry.
2. Days last 14 days, Night 48 hours, extensions may be granted on a case-by-case basis (e.g site crash, other major issue)
3. If you do not post within 48 hours, I will prod you.
4. If you are prodded, respond within 48 hours or I will replace you.
5. If i find a replacement at Night, the night will be extended by 24 hours to accomadate the new replacement.
6. You may make a "BAH!" post ONLY IF: You were not present during the twilight, and your post may only contain the letters "b", "a", and "h" along with an optional "!"
7. If you will be unable to be active in thread for over 48 hours, please make a V/LA post in bold. As long as the time is reasonable, you will be exempt from prods.
8. If someone receives 3 prods, I will forcefully replace them.
9. I reserve the right to edit, add, or remove these rules as well.

Sample PM:

Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Vanilla Townie

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Vanilla) and faction (Town).
The game thread is
here

This is my Mod Colour, all edits and VCs will be in this colour (#00FF00). DO NOT USE IT. (use #00FF40 for VCAing)

VC Template[ area=Official VC (day number).(VC number) ]

(Largest Wagon Name) is at L-X

Not Voting (13) [Player Name, Player Name ....... , Player Name, Player Name]

Accurate to Post #[ post ]number[ /post ]

With X Alive, it's (X/2)+1 to lynch.
[ /area ]
[ area=Mod Notes ]

Mod Notes go here(V/LAs, etc.)

[ /area ]

and my setup is here:

The Setup
Town

2-Shot Friendly Neighbour

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
2-shot Friendly Neighbour

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
Not only that, you are also a very friendly person, so during the night, you may head out to town to inform someone of your faction. You only have enough confidence to talk to two people however, so choose wisely.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (2-Shot Friendly Neighbour) and faction (Town).

1-Shot Friendly Neighbour

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
1-shot Friendly Neighbour

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
Not only that, you are also a very friendly person, so during the night, you may head out to town to inform someone of your faction. You only have enough confidence to talk to one person however, so choose wisely.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (1-Shot Friendly Neighbour) and faction (Town).

Odd-Night Cop

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Odd Night Cop

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
Not only that, you are also a very alert person, so during the night, you may look out of your window and spy on one person's door to look at what activity goes on there so you can determine their alignment. However, you are incredibly superstitious, and you only believe you should inspect on odd-numbered nights.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Odd-Night Cop) and faction (Town).

Foreign Psychic

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Foreign Psychic

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are trained in the arts of the psychic, which allows you to view events from a disembodied perspective. This allows you to have a second which you cast through PMing me. This vote will NOT be registered in the VC but it will be counted. The second vote may be on two different people, or all on one person. With your great power, you may unleash it all at once during the night, and gain ALL results I have sent. You do not who sent them or who received them, but you will know whatever results were obtained this night. However, this burns all your strength, and you may not have a second vote afterwards. Due to the fact you come from a foreign land, people have some doubts about you, and you will inspect unfavourably to cops. This is not explicitly Normal, and you will flip with this Role PM.
You win when all threats to your faction are eliminated, who are defined as having this win condtion.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Foreign Psychic) and faction (Town).

VT x 5

Mafia

Mafia Traitor

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia Traitor

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are a old cast-away from the group of Mafia. You now wish to return but due to the chaos, you do not know who the Mafia is. However, the Mafia have been notified of your return. They do not know who you are as you sent the return letter anoynomously.
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Traitor) and faction (Mafia).

Mafia JailKeeper

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia JailKeeper

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are an ex-JailKeeper which means you have knowledge of the art of imprisonment. You were lured to the dark side by promises of power and cookies. You hold the keys to your faction's dungeon, and each Night, you may lock up a citizen to prevent them from being killed, but also prevents them from carrying out any action they may have.
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Your faction has a factional kill at night which anyone of the Mafia faction may utilise to kill. You may kill and JailKeep at the same time. You are informed that there is a Mafia Traitor out there on your side.
Your Mafia Private Topic is
here
, along with your partners ____ and ____.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Jailkeeper) and faction (Mafia).

Mafia One-Shot Ninja

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia One-Shot Ninja

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You are a trained disciple of a master of stealth. You were lured to the dark side by promises of power and cookies. You know the techniques of stealth, which means that actions you perform will not be seen by anyone but yourself. However, you only have the confidence to perform it once, which means you may only use your ninja techniques once
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Your faction has a factional kill at night which anyone of the Mafia faction may utilise to kill. You are informed that there is a Mafia Traitor out there on your side.
Your Mafia Private Topic is
here
, along with your partners ____ and ____
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (One-Shot Ninja) and faction (Mafia).

Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome to Mini Normal _____, you are a
Mafia Goon

You have a power in your voice, and since you live in a democracy, you have power in your vote as well.
You were a regular citizen, but the Mafia have lured you to the dark side with promises of power and cookies.
You win when the Town have been eliminated, and your faction controls the remaining votes, who are defined as having this win condition.
Your faction has a factional kill at night which anyone of the Mafia faction may utilise to kill. You may kill and JailKeep at the same time. You are informed that there is a Mafia Traitor out there on your side.
Your Mafia Private Topic is
here
, along with your partners ___ and ___.
Please confirm to me by replying with your role name (Vanilla) and faction (Mafia).

XnadrojX wrote:
Results
Spoiler: Friendly Neighbour
You were visited by a very friendly looking ___ last night, who informed you that they were town.

Spoiler: Cop
Your investigation revealed ___ to be Mafia/Not Mafia. {inspect succesful}
Your investiagtion did not return any results. {inspect was blocked}

XnadrojX wrote:
XnadrojX wrote:...have a second vote which you cast ...
EBWOP

XnadrojX wrote:I have one Mini of modding experience (Mini Normal 1862)
I currently have no modding commitments and I am currently playing in one Mini Theme, one Large Theme, and one Micro.
I currently do not have a backup moderator.
I do not want the setup distribution to be revealed.

Ok, when you say public double votes does it mean they announce like "SECOND/DOUBLE VOTE: PLAYER"?

XnadrojX · Post Post #93 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:40 am

Ugm ignore the quote

XnadrojX · Post Post #95 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:29 am

Oh, so in the same post?

XnadrojX · Post Post #96 (isolation #39) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:30 am

What's the difference between making th announce second vote and doing it in a different colour?

XnadrojX · Post Post #97 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:31 am

In post 95, XnadrojX wrote:Oh, so in the same post?

Ignore this

XnadrojX · Post Post #100 (isolation #41) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:41 am

Welcome ____, you are a

Miller Doublevoter

.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast by voting someone with the word "SECOND" in front of vote tags in all caps in the colour #0000FF. This vote will be counted in votecount but will not affect the hammer requirement.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the

Town

, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.

XnadrojX · Post Post #101 (isolation #42) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:41 am

So fixing the DoubleVoter, do the reviewers approve this setup?

XnadrojX · Post Post #103 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:16 am

Mastina smith?

XnadrojX · Post Post #106 (isolation #44) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:16 pm

3-Shot Gunsmith

Spoiler: Role PM

Spoiler: Results

Odd-Night Cop

Spoiler: Role PM

Spoiler: Results

Miller Doublevoter

Spoiler: Role PM

Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Role PM

XnadrojX · Post Post #108 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:30 pm

In post 106, XnadrojX wrote:3-Shot Gunsmith
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
3-Shot Gunsmith
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 3-Shot Gunsmith, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target has a gun in flavour. You may do this up to three times.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]3-Shot Gunsmith[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 3-Shot Gunsmith, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target has a gun in flavour. You may do this up to three times.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Spoiler: Results
Your target has a gun.

Your target does not have a gun.

You received no result.

Odd-Night Cop
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Odd-Night Cop
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Odd-Night Cop, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target is aligned with the Mafia. You may only do this on odd-numbered nights.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Odd-Night Cop[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Odd-Night Cop, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target is aligned with the Mafia. You may only do this on odd-numbered nights.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Spoiler: Results
Your target is not Mafia=aligned.

Your target is Mafia-aligned.

You received no result.

Miller Doublevoter
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Miller Doublevoter
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast in secret by announcing SECOND in front of your vote, in the colour #0000FF (blue). You may cast this vote regardless of the state of your first vote. This vote will be registered in votecounts and will not change the lynch threshold, but it will be counted as a regular vote otherwise.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Miller Doublevoter[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast in secret by announcing SECOND in front of your vote, in the colour #0000FF (blue).  You may cast this vote regardless of the state of your first vote. This vote will be registered in votecounts and will not change the lynch threshold, but it will be counted as a regular vote otherwise.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Vanilla Townie

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the
Town
and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Vanilla Townie[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color] and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 2-Shot Roleblocker, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name, and your target will not have their night action will fail if they have one. You may do this up to two times.

You are aligned with the
Mafia
, along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#FF0000]Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 2-Shot Roleblocker, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name, and your target will not have their night action carried out this night should they have one. You may do this up to 2 times.

You are aligned with the [color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color], along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Mafia Goon

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the
Mafia
, along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#FF0000]Mafia Goon[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the [color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color], along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.

Fixed

XnadrojX · Post Post #110 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:12 pm

In post 108, XnadrojX wrote:
In post 106, XnadrojX wrote:3-Shot Gunsmith
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
3-Shot Gunsmith
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 3-Shot Gunsmith, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target has a gun in flavour. You may do this up to three times.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]3-Shot Gunsmith[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 3-Shot Gunsmith, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target has a gun in flavour. You may do this up to three times.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Spoiler: Results
Your target has a gun.

Your target does not have a gun.

You received no result.

Odd-Night Cop
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Odd-Night Cop
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Odd-Night Cop, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target is aligned with the Mafia. You may only do this on odd-numbered nights.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Odd-Night Cop[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Odd-Night Cop, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target is aligned with the Mafia. You may only do this on odd-numbered nights.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Spoiler: Results
Your target is not Mafia=aligned.

Your target is Mafia-aligned.

You received no result.

Miller Doublevoter
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Miller Doublevoter
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast in secret by announcing SECOND in front of your vote, in the colour #0000FF (blue). You may cast this vote regardless of the state of your first vote. This vote will be registered in votecounts and will not change the lynch threshold, but it will be counted as a regular vote otherwise.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Miller Doublevoter[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast in secret by announcing SECOND in front of your vote, in the colour #0000FF (blue).  You may cast this vote regardless of the state of your first vote. This vote will be registered in votecounts and will not change the lynch threshold, but it will be counted as a regular vote otherwise.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Vanilla Townie

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the
Town
and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Vanilla Townie[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color] and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 2-Shot Roleblocker, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name, and your target will not have their night action will fail if they have one. You may do this up to two times.

You are aligned with the
Mafia
, along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#FF0000]Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 2-Shot Roleblocker, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name, and your target will not have their night action will fail if they have one. You may do this up to two times.

You are aligned with the [color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color], along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Mafia Goon

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the
Mafia
, along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#FF0000]Mafia Goon[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the [color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color], along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Fixed

Fixed, also did another check and everything looks in order

XnadrojX · Post Post #112 (isolation #47) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:32 am

In post 110, XnadrojX wrote:
In post 108, XnadrojX wrote:
In post 106, XnadrojX wrote:3-Shot Gunsmith
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
3-Shot Gunsmith
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 3-Shot Gunsmith, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target has a gun in flavour. You may do this up to three times.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]3-Shot Gunsmith[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 3-Shot Gunsmith, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target has a gun in flavour. You may do this up to three times.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Spoiler: Results
Your target has a gun.

Your target does not have a gun.

You received no result.

Odd-Night Cop
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Odd-Night Cop
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Odd-Night Cop, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target is aligned with the Mafia. You may only do this on odd-numbered nights.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Odd-Night Cop[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Odd-Night Cop, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name and you will receive a result indicating whether or not your target is aligned with the Mafia. You may only do this on odd-numbered nights.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Spoiler: Results
Your target is not Mafia=aligned.

Your target is Mafia-aligned.

You received no result.

Miller Doublevoter
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Miller Doublevoter
.
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast in secret by announcing SECOND in front of your vote, in the colour #0000FF (blue). You may cast this vote regardless of the state of your first vote. This vote will be registered in votecounts and will not change the lynch threshold, but it will be counted as a regular vote otherwise.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the
Town
, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Miller Doublevoter[/color].
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast, and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a Doublevoter, on top of your regular vote, you have a second vote which you can cast in secret by announcing SECOND in front of your vote, in the colour #0000FF (blue).  You may cast this vote regardless of the state of your first vote. This vote will be registered in votecounts and will not change the lynch threshold, but it will be counted as a regular vote otherwise.

On top of that, you are a Miller, you will be inspected as being aligned with the Mafia should you be investigated.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color], and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Vanilla Townie

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the
Town
and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#00FF00]Vanilla Townie[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the [color=#00FF00]Town[/color] and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 2-Shot Roleblocker, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name, and your target will have their night action will fail if they have one. You may do this up to two times.

You are aligned with the
Mafia
, along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#FF0000]Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are also a 2-Shot Roleblocker, anytime during the night phase, you may send me a name, and your target will have their night action will fail if they have one. You may do this up to two times.

You are aligned with the [color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color], along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Role PM
Welcome ____, you are a
Mafia Goon

You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the
Mafia
, along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Code: Select all
Welcome ____, you are a [color=#FF0000]Mafia Goon[/color]
You have a voice to use and a vote to cast and you may use these tools anytime during the day phase.

You are aligned with the [color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color], along with ____, and win when your faction is the last one left standing, or when nothing can stop this from happening.
Fixed
Fixed, also did another check and everything looks in order

I'm bad

XnadrojX · Post Post #114 (isolation #48) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:28 pm

Smith?

XnadrojX · Post Post #116 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:33 am

Yay, Nexus it's finally done