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School Survivor (Game Over, Congrats Hermione!)

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:27 am

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Welcome to Ned's Declassified School Survivor Guide, or
School Survivor
for short!

It's your middle school graduation ceremony, and you know what that means. You're about to enter the frightening world of high school, filled with cliques, bullies, and unrealistic expectations. While you're in it, everything seems like the most important thing in the world, but once it's over, no one will care about anything that happened in it. So there's already a large amount of similarities with a game of Survivor.

School Survivor
is an anonymous Survivor game for 27 players. The game will be more fast-paced and involved than most anonymous games, so we recommend that you only sign up if you are willing to devote at least a couple hours a day to the game, especially at the start of the game.

APPLICATION FORMIf you'd like to sign up for this game as a player or spectator, please fill out this application form.


GLOBAL RULES

[A01]
This is a game. You should play to have fun, and to win. You should not prohibit others from doing the same. You should show respect to all participants at all times. We understand this is a game that deals with a lot of emotions, and you should feel free to show that emotion -- just don't push it too far. Where "the line" is will be handled on a case by case basis.

[A02]
This game is anonymous. You should at no point hint at your own identity, or communicate with any person about the game outside the private message system unless permitted to by the mods.

[A03]
You should not take any action which disrupts or undermines the integrity of the game. You should also not take any action that brings the game into disrepute. This includes, but is not limited to, cheating in or explicitly seeking to break challenges, communicating with players you are not permitted to, communicating information using screenshots or PM forwarding. If in doubt, ask.

[A04]
If there is a problem, or there has been a mistake made, discuss it with a mod.

[A05]
In superficially breaking one of the rules in this ruleset, an Official Warning will be given. If the breach is substantial, or a second breach of any named rule is made, discretionary sanctions will be applied. If the breach if excessive, or a further breach is made after sanctions, you will be modkilled. This is your only (unofficial) warning.

[A06]
We reserve the right at any time to implement new rules. We reserve the right to use our discretion in disciplining players as we see fit, if a situation not covered by these rules arises, using A05 as a guide. We reserve the right to refrain from disciplining players if we believe the offence is sufficiently minor. Should these rules be substantively altered at any time, you will be informed.

FORMAT


[B01]
Generally, in Survivor, players are split into tribes and participate in challenges. After each challenge, losing tribes must vote off one of their own, in a secret vote. After a period of time, the tribes merge. The last player standing wins.

[B02
At an unknown point in the game, players voted out will begin to form the jury, which will vote on the winner from the final two or three players remaining at the end of the game.

[B03]
You may only PM members of your tribe. You may use any provided forum spaces to communicate with anyone who has access to them.

[B04]
You will have a confessional that only the mods, spectators, and you can read. We expect players to make at least one post in their confessional each game round.

MECHANICS


CHALLENGES


[C01]
Each round may have immunity challenges and/or reward challenges.

[C02]
All outcomes are final, subject to A04.

[C03]
Winners of immunity challenges will be safe from elimination that round, and will not be eligible for being voted out in a tribal council. Winners of reward challenges will be eligible for a reward, as described in that challenge.

[C04]
A range of challenge styles has been designed, to test different skills. We cannot provide for all players all the time, but we have tried our best to make challenges as level and fair as possible.

TRIBAL COUNCIL


[D01]
Each round will have at least one tribal council.

[D02]
All outcomes are final, subject to A04.

[D03]
Tribal councils will always last 24 hours from notification. A failure to vote will cause the offender to self-vote. Repeated self-votes, deliberate or accidental, may result in punishment, as per A01 and A05.

[D04]
You may modify votes at any time, but please use a new post to do so. The moderation team will not alter council results due to a missed edited post. This is your only warning.

TRIBAL COUNCIL TIES


[E01]
In the event of a tie at a council, a revote will take place. Only those players tied for the highest number of votes will be eligible candidates. Those eligible candidates will not be able to vote.

[E02]
Reward items will carry through a tie vote. Reward items, unless otherwise stated, may not be played in a revote.

[E03]
If a plurality is not found in a revote, or there is otherwise still a tie, all non-tied players without immunity, whether via Individual Immunity or via Rewards, will randomly draw a rock. The player who draws the sole purple rock will be eliminated.

[E04]
Should there be only four players remaining in the game, a tiebreaker challenge will instead take place.

TWISTS


[F01]
Twists have been preplanned and placed ahead of time, to be enacted without provocation. Twists are not designed with any player in mind, but have been blindly designed. We have made every effort to ensure the fairness of twists.

[F02]
Should there be a conflict between in-game explanations and these rules, such as the text of a Reward Item, that in-game explanation will supersede these rules.

Please note: even if you are not immediately accepted, that doesn't mean you are out! We will be keeping a list of potential replacements in case we have any no-shows in the first 24-48 hours.
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:32 am

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Signups will remain open for a week, and the game will begin on January 16th at 4PM EST.

(expired on 2017-01-16 16:00:00) to game start!
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:25 am

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Me bumping a pinned topic? More likely than you'd think.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:55 am

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As the number of applicants who prefer to play has exceeded 27, we will be ending signups for players in (expired on 2017-01-12 13:55:20). You may still apply to be a spectator after this point. Thank you to everyone for your willingness to play.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:05 pm

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Applications for players are now closed, but you are welcome to still apply as a spectator. Get ready for game start in under 4 days!
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Post Post #5 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:11 pm

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In post 1, CuddlyCaucasian wrote:
(expired on 2017-01-16 16:00:00) to game start!
Get ready!
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Post Post #6 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:00 pm

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Post Post #11 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:12 pm

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The forums have been opened for all to see, here's the link for anyone interested: http://s15.zetaboards.com/School_Survivor/index/

After this game, I don't know if I can ever mod another Survivor game again, and I unfortunately don't have any desire to. Hermione, you played great and we couldn't have asked for a better winner (besides Dick obviously). To everyone, I apologize, but this was not a super fun time, and being involved in all the pettiness has made me question why I do this at all. I'll continue running non-Survivor games where people don't act like high schoolers (ha) and may try my hand at modding Survivor off-site after this.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:13 pm

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It's a game, I hope everyone had fun, but don't treat this as more than a game.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:41 am

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Aeronaut you were robbed!!!!!!
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Post Post #49 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:50 pm

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Those are good points Reck! I hadn't thought about how juries lately have been punishing risky play, although that may be a result of jury members not caring as much and voting for who they like more. Either way, a large part of it is jurors making everything about themselves. I think this could be countered by only allowing each jury member 1-3 questions like we did in RSX.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:08 pm

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Yeah, I'd definitely say the reason I find it hard to keep modding is that players who maintain the status quo and just play with their friends keep being rewarded, and while I don't think that's not a valid way to play or anything, it's boring to watch it play out every game. I don't know if anything really needs to change though, and I could very well be the problem; my views of what makes an enjoyable game simply don't align with most of the community.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #12) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:26 pm

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Spectators have always been pretty vocal about not liking games, I know all the way back in Season Finale everyone tore the purple tribe apart for not taking out Jesse. I think the biggest change is that spectator forums are more active now.

Also maybe I'm overreacting, but there's gotta be some reason that over the course of this game all three mods of it have grown to hate the state of the Survivor community, to the point of wanting to leave
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Post Post #79 (isolation #13) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:37 pm

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In post 73, BROseidon wrote:
In post 72, hiplop wrote:Im quitting because the meta sucks right now and Juno doing so well confirmed that to me. Nothing against juno.
Kilby, I'm going to be nice when I say this.

You're part of the problem.
good thing he's leaving then, we're already one step closer
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Post Post #83 (isolation #14) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 82, Vijarada wrote:This ain't no argument bout karass. Let's not do that again.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #15) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:44 pm

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Sens I've told you that you were playing an incredible game up until final five when you shit the bed, and I'm pretty sure that one mistake is why a lot of spectators were confused by you being so close to winning. None of that was anything personal against you.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:46 pm

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I think my biggest problem is everyone taking everything so seriously to the point where it isn't fun at all to be involved in, and makes people feel like shit afterward. That's why I had such a good time with Spookz and RSX, cause no one gave a shit. Like hiplop said, people aren't leaving to send some message, people leave because it stopped being fun.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:02 pm

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In post 98, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 96, CuddlyCaucasian wrote:I think my biggest problem is everyone taking everything so seriously to the point where it isn't fun at all to be involved in, and makes people feel like shit afterward. That's why I had such a good time with Spookz and RSX, cause no one gave a shit. Like hiplop said, people aren't leaving to send some message, people leave because it stopped being fun.
That's fair, too.

I've long been arguing for the "game is a game" mentality, but I see how that can be problematic too.

But I also think you're shining a dried turd in saying you loved Spookz because you didn't and you bitched on Skype to me about that, too. About how people weren't taking it seriously or trying and that bothered you.

On the one hand: if someone is being sorta emotional, that's part of the game we all play.
On the other hand: if someone is being too extra emotional and is being toxic, that saps the fun for everyone.

There is a middle ground that is hard to define.
I didn't think me jumping on the DAN IS SOOOO MEAN bandwagon would be bad because it helped my game to paint him that way.
After the fact? I see that Dan's perception in the game was a source of stress for you guys, and that makes me sad that I helped fuel that.
That's very fair, at the time of Spookz I was frustrated that no one cared about it to the point of active discussion that people constantly have about past Survivor games. I was bummed that no one was doing much, but I'm always a pessimist in the moment, and looking back on it I have so many more fond memories of that game than I do of any Survivor game. My complaints were with the "legacy" of the game rather than how much fun it was for me personally.

RE: Vijarada, yeah not wanting people to give a fuck is very much an exaggeration haha. I put a lot of care and effort into these games, and deep down I don't think I'll stop wanting the best for this community. I'm tired of people putting themselves above the game and disregarding whatever doesn't have to do with them, because it makes whatever I do feel thankless (I'm not gonna keep going on this point because I complained enough during the game).

tl;dr I want people to try and win and appreciate what the mods do, but not hate life
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Post Post #115 (isolation #18) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:15 pm

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In post 112, Vijarada wrote:Oh no not the mythical line. I'd even rather talk about karass than discuss the line.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:34 pm

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My enlarged security in myself is because i'm compensating for everything downstairs
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Post Post #220 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:14 pm

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My biggest regret this game is certainly the way I spectated. I approach viewing the game from a very story-centric perspective, which is how approximately 0% of the players are looking at it! So any comments I make shouldn't ever be viewed as a critique of someone as a person or of their gameplay. And there's the over the top stuff like talking about blacklisting players that I regret because whether I mean it or not (I probably don't) it's publicly shaming that person. :/ I can see how a lot of things I say look personal too even when they're only relating to that character's role within the season. OGML is one of my favorite people on the site and I hated Damian. Do I hate OGML? Obviously not, but it's hard to tell that line for a lot of people.

tl;dr I should probably stick to gameplay commentary only
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Post Post #268 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:00 am

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In post 229, UpTooLate wrote:
In post 223, BROseidon wrote:This is why specs need to not talk about things. Because they don't understand what actually happens in the game because they don't see 95% of it
Yeah and people watching survivor at home shouldn't talk about things either because they don't see 95% of it.

....
This.

Also confessionals are always more of a courtesy thing, unless it's a game like Hogwarts or LoL where players are incentivized with gold for answering all confessional questions. Usually I just expect/hope to be shown that courtesy with at least minor updates
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Post Post #288 (isolation #22) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:36 am

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In post 284, KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:If you can't take getting your feelings hurt you shouldn't be playing these games. Survivor is always being prepared for the worst backstab to date. If you can't get over that these games aren't for you
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Post Post #342 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:48 am

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I'm terrible at commenting on what game moves people should make because I'm not good at the game. Most of it consisted of "vote out Aria" every round for Juno and Hermione, etc. It's especially hard to know what people should do when we thought Dan had a lot more jury votes and Juno had 0, so if people want more constructive feedback on their play they need everyone else posting in their confessionals about them or else we have no idea how whatever they're doing is perceived. My biggest issue with Aria's game was that every round her strategy from our perspective just seemed to be "keep voting out the people I don't like, vote with my friends" and also she was worried about Juno beating her in the end. It's hard to comment on what she should be doing differently other than not be such an obvious jury threat.
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Post Post #364 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:09 pm

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In post 363, Malkon05 wrote:
In post 342, CuddlyCaucasian wrote: It's hard to comment on what she should be doing differently other than not be such an obvious jury threat.
Ummm like what? :P *gets out notepad*
I just said I don't know! Don't be a jury threat, stop being so liked by most people geez!!
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Post Post #368 (isolation #25) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:46 pm

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In post 365, Shadoweh wrote:I like self-awareness so for me that was the biggest annoyance with Aria not knowing she was a social black hole sucking up everyone else's games. Herm got to narrate moves and what should be happening a lot so even the villainous moves made sense from her perspective? I think it's easier to like someone whose thoughts you understand.
Oh yeah you nailed it, the lack of self-awareness was what annoyed me the most
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Post Post #427 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:04 pm

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What about extravagant lies about your personal life
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Post Post #429 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:05 pm

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same, but amish
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Post Post #432 (isolation #28) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:09 pm

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yo i said mine was different man come ahhn

iirc the problem xof had with the hyrule stuff also had a lot to do with PMs showing up as read when the player themselves hadn't looked at them yet
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Post Post #450 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:08 pm

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In post 449, BROseidon wrote:Just because it's a game doesn't mean that basic aspects of human decency go away.
same
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Post Post #453 (isolation #30) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:12 pm

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Post Post #457 (isolation #31) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:43 pm

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Post Post #477 (isolation #32) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 470, BROseidon wrote:(in b4 "but Penny was mean to Tracy" while ignoring the entire context within which that existed)
I don't think you can defend implying someone is an actual sociopath with "I was trying to make a point"
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Post Post #480 (isolation #33) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:11 pm

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No I understand you

EDIT: Vijarada's post pretty much says it all, it's a total double standard
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Post Post #485 (isolation #34) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:21 pm

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PiggyGal15 told me in DBZ that she would blacklist me if it turned out I was lying about being a newbie :(
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Post Post #492 (isolation #35) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:26 pm

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I agree with you zor, I mean my entire thing in DBZ was "opening up" to people about how my dad left me and my mom, and I was trying to get on Broadway to impress him or whatever. Also yeah I didn't think about that PiggyGal comment until now but I probably should have said something to the game mods at the time, idk if that's something that's okay
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Post Post #499 (isolation #36) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:29 pm

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I think the whole issue here is how attacking the merits of someone's game isn't equivalent to attacking someone's character outside of the game
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Post Post #509 (isolation #37) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:35 pm

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In post 506, Vijarada wrote:21 pages of drama...previous record is 9... even PSV and BotB only had 5 page threads...
Hey now, about 4 of these pages were people fantasizing over how they'd be edited
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Post Post #513 (isolation #38) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:37 pm

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Bad Santa was the best Santa
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Post Post #517 (isolation #39) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:39 pm

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I'd rather be an asshole and win though
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Post Post #519 (isolation #40) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:39 pm

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Someone bring in Big Jeff
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Post Post #531 (isolation #41) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:56 pm

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Some clips then some cutting wrists maybe some blacking of eyes after
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Post Post #536 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:58 pm

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she's lying, I know for a fact she read it
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