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What? How do you know this? Are you claiming?Blackberry wrote:Niv is scum. He targetted MBF last night.
Are you trying to protect him? >_<farside22 wrote:
You have to explain better then this. Your vote alone does not send someone to the gallows.Blackberry wrote:Niv -- tell the truth about who you targetted last night or you die.
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So I guess he's probly the Godfather...That would be quite useful.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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What? FOS on for saying he's probably the Godfather? The Godfather submits the kill's, so he's probably the Godfather, no?Blackberry wrote:
If he DOES turn out to be the Godfather, FOS: Xtoxm... simply because that makes no sense whatsoever to guess he is the Godfather?Xtoxm wrote:So I guess he's probly the Godfather...That would be quite useful.- Xtoxm
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Oh...Right...Well, I don't think so. And he sounds accepting of being lynched to prove it. So I don't think he's lying.Cyberbob wrote:
It's recursive logic. You can say that it's too absurd of a story for scum to try and pull, but the scum could know that it's too absurd to be taken suspiciously, but they could know that someone would see through that... and so on.Xtoxm wrote:
What?Cyberbob wrote:
This is WIFOM.Xtoxm wrote:That's so absurd I think I have to believe Blackberry...
I know that means "Wine in front of me"
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You really think there'll be a vig in a game this small? I don't think so. Maybe a one-shot. But I doubt a normal vig.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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He was away the weekend that speedy lynch happend, remeber him say he had a wedding.I'm also thinking Monkey's lack of vote means he was probably trying to stay away from the vote so he could look innocent.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think you may have a point about Monkey finding me suspicious and not mentioning Gorrad.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Wow...This should make the game fun whne the roleclaims start spilling out. There's 16 of us, and only 1 vanilla...Hope i'm still alive for itSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I wouldn't call it gut, more a subconsious scum vibe you pick from them.Blackberry wrote:
My gut told me NIV was scum, I did not choose him randomly. And I have decided that is more important to go with one's gut (since I've learned in Psych and other courses that when people write down reasons for their decisions they are less accurate, surprisingly).Gorrad wrote:And you completely failed to realise that maybe there was a power role that didn't take a night action? And you randomly chose Niv to attack about night actions, despite the wisdom behind, I dunno, waiting until someone else claimed vanilla?
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Or maybe we're pulling a WIFOM on youI can't bring myself to believe it. But at the same time, if Blackberry ends up scum, my vote is going for xtoxm next.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I heard in another game that the one who brings up the possibility of Jester is almost always mafia. Can't remember the exact statistic, something like 5/6 I think.Twomz wrote:@ BlackBerry: Glork could have easily put "there are no vanilla roles" in a mafia goon's role PM. Or you get to ask a yes or no question each night (to Glork). Regardless at this point I don't trust you to do anything beyond attracting the towns attention... omfg... Glork wouldn't put a jester in his game would he?unvote... and hammer opportunistically.
Dammit... jester makes almost as much sense as scum and is more dangerous (unless it is an alternate win condition). Stupid brain . Who else thinks it's a possible role? Or am I just being really paranoid now? Because it doesn't explain xtoxm's puppy dog behavior to Blackberry... /shrug oh well, I can always revote for him later.- Xtoxm
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The WIFOM thing was a joke btw, cos of what cyberbob said. Not some tactic to tryt and make you think i'm town because i'm scum.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'm surprised a claim like that has come out this early. He was ambiguos about what he got for me, but i'm going to have a hard time believing blackerry is scum, so i'd say he's probably paranoid/insane.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think Monkey is telling the truth, but dismissing the claim of being the only vanilla? seriously...
You could well have your results affected by the weather, I think it's likely, rather than just being paranoid/insane. You should try and figure out what the weather does to your investigation.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I would support a Twomz lynch. I think your trying to dig yourself out of the hole of mentioning jester.
And how can anyone think Blackberry is scum when he has proved he is the only vanilla townie?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think monkey is telling the truth...I don't the weather on either night (cloudy then windy) is likely to affected either investigation, and I think Monkey is more likely insane than paranoid, in a game like this.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
We really shouldn't be lynching Blackberry. As he said, Twomz or Gorrad are better targets.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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He probably didn't target anyone. Look at what his role was...Blackberry wrote:
Yes--I see your issues. I did not care at the moment cuz my gut told me NIV was scum.farside22 wrote:I will give in to the fact that no I haven't played at this site for long. However you didn't address my other concern.farside22 wrote:
What if Niv had, had a power role when you pointed at him and asked who he targeted? Aren't you giving the scum the opportunity to know one power role with that type of play? Do you see my issue's?
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You are trying to tell me i'm OMGUSing when the fact is I think you are scum.Twomz wrote:@ xtoxm: You are now trying to say you would support a lynch on someone who is attacking you (and the guy that you have been puppydogging after) when there are two guilty investigations on the two of you?
I'm adding OMGUSing and deflecting to the xtoxm tally.
I'm supposed to go vote someone else I don't find suspicious just cause you're voting for me? lol..- Xtoxm
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How do you explain no counter claim for being the ONLY vanilla?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Monkey getting the same result on him as me, and his claim of only vanilla. I can't see scum being told this, I can see a townie being told this.hasdgfas wrote:
That he can be trusted? He was responsible for the lynch of Niv on Day 1 because of a lie. Why would that make you believe that he can be trusted?Xtoxm wrote:I believe i've seen good evidence...
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If it comes down to choice between Gorrad and BB i'm definitely voting Gorrad.
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I think monkey's telling the truth cos making up a claim like that is a bit pointless if you're scum, as far as I can see.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Monkey, I believe your intentions are good but your results are tainted.
Take another look at your role PM, see if anything suggests if you are insane or paranoid.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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1. I don't think scum would do that this earlyscum could easily claim a cop-type role as they know who the scum are and can get accurate results.
2. His results are inaccurateSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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That's true, but they are.ChaosOmega wrote:Gorrad: I'm going to drop the jester thing, because as we've both said, it probably has no bearing on the game at all. I was just a bit wary seeing you advocate meeting the win condition of a non-town party.
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1. I don't think scum would do that this earlyscum could easily claim a cop-type role as they know who the scum are and can get accurate results.
2. His results are inaccurate
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I have already. What about my play do you think hasn't been pro-town?hasdgfas wrote:
Then argue your case rather than just saying that they're wrong. Why should we believe you over him when I haven't really seen anything pro-town from you.Xtoxm wrote:
That's true, but they are.ChaosOmega wrote:Gorrad: I'm going to drop the jester thing, because as we've both said, it probably has no bearing on the game at all. I was just a bit wary seeing you advocate meeting the win condition of a non-town party.
1. WIFOMXtoxm wrote:
1. I don't think scum would do that this earlyscum could easily claim a cop-type role as they know who the scum are and can get accurate results.
2. His results are inaccurate
2. That is from a very biased opinion on the situation.
Atleast you are actually listening to what I am saying though.
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Bookitty - Those are valid possible no night action roles, but there are some - And I would suggest most roles are - Imaginativley thought up weather related roles.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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My post answered NONE of Book's Q's.hasdgfas wrote:
but your post still answered questions that Bookie had for BB, like I said. Just because he may or may not be vanilla doesn't mean he can't answer questions about power roles.Xtoxm wrote:
My post about weather related roles has absolutley nothing to do with BB. Especially since he's claimed vanilla.hasdgfas wrote:I spy Xtoxm answering for BB again. let BB answer these questions himself.- Xtoxm
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Well my intentions had nothing to do with that. I was informing you as you hadn't mentioned the idea. I'm sure there's quite a few weather related roles in this game.Bookitty wrote:Xtoxm, your comments seem rather leading. "Weather related roles" isn't something that I asked Blackberry, true, but it might be incorporated in part of his response now due to your interjection of that idea. Your comment was directly in response to a post that wasn't to you nor about you, but was directly addressed to someone else. People answer for other people all the time, but you seem to be acting as Blackberry's press secretary, which isn't helpful in getting HIS unaided responses to questions posed.
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I really don't know...although I have now broken my "never been scum" record, it's in a completely diff type of game and I have still no experience playing as scum essentially.
Sounds like the easiest thing to do would be to lynch you BB. I think you'll get more useful answers from ppl who've actually played games as scum...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'd kill night 0 if I was a vig.armlx wrote:On the topic of roles that have powers but wont activate Night 1:
RB's depending on what the player speculates on the set up.
Vigilantes of all types.
BB's responses have definitely checked out with what I read him as, especially his Iammars point. I agree on that too. Iammars has done the following so far:
Bashed someone for a minor early D1 scum tell.
Voted for Niv at about the tilting point between lynch and pressure.
Acted really knowledgable about cop results and BB's role..
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Yeh but there's still and good chance you'll hit scum, and what if you get killed that night or lynched day 1? You've just wasted your role doing nothing.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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