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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:02 am

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Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:42 am

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Yay
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Post Post #82 (isolation #2) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:59 am

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Niv wrote:
Blackberry wrote:
Niv -- tell the truth about who you targetted last night or you die.
No one.

My question to you, Are you insane?
This seems to be going pretty slowly...

Why are you voting for yourself?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #3) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:30 am

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Glork wrote:
Monkey wrote:
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I'll be gone until Sunday night/Monday afternoon due to getting married tonight ..
Congratulations!!
Yeah Congratz :)
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Post Post #90 (isolation #4) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:24 pm

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Blackberry wrote:
Niv is scum. He targetted MBF last night.

farside22 wrote:
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Niv -- tell the truth about who you targetted last night or you die.
You have to explain better then this. Your vote alone does not send someone to the gallows.
Are you trying to protect him? >_<

FOS: farside2.
What? How do you know this? Are you claiming?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:58 am

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unvote vote niv
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Post Post #98 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:17 am

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So I guess he's probly the Godfather...That would be quite useful.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:34 am

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Xtoxm wrote:So I guess he's probly the Godfather...That would be quite useful.
If he DOES turn out to be the Godfather, FOS: Xtoxm... simply because that makes no sense whatsoever to guess he is the Godfather?
What? FOS on for saying he's probably the Godfather? The Godfather submits the kill's, so he's probably the Godfather, no?
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Post Post #103 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:42 am

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On the site I came from Godfather submits the kills
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Post Post #105 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:55 am

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Blackberry wrote:
Submitting the kill is different from performing the kills.

EXAMPLE: Godfather sends NIV to kill MBF"
Oh. I didn't know that. I never been mafia on this site.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #10) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:33 am

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Niv wrote:Bah. Go scum, town longer deserves to win this.

/out for any game with blackberry.
Well we were obviously going to lynch you if you didn't say what you actually did...
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Post Post #118 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:43 am

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That's so absurd I think I have to believe Blackberry...
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Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:57 am

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Cyberbob wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:That's so absurd I think I have to believe Blackberry...
This is WIFOM.
What?

I know that means "Wine in front of me"

But, what??
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Post Post #123 (isolation #13) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:07 am

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Cyberbob wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Cyberbob wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:That's so absurd I think I have to believe Blackberry...
This is WIFOM.
What?

I know that means "Wine in front of me"

But, what??
It's recursive logic. You can say that it's too absurd of a story for scum to try and pull, but the scum could know that it's too absurd to be taken suspiciously, but they could know that someone would see through that... and so on.
Oh...Right...Well, I don't think so. And he sounds accepting of being lynched to prove it. So I don't think he's lying.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:40 am

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You really think there'll be a vig in a game this small? I don't think so. Maybe a one-shot. But I doubt a normal vig.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:56 am

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I'm also thinking Monkey's lack of vote means he was probably trying to stay away from the vote so he could look innocent.
He was away the weekend that speedy lynch happend, remeber him say he had a wedding.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:58 am

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I think you may have a point about Monkey finding me suspicious and not mentioning Gorrad.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:32 am

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Actually, my name is just my rolename too.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:42 am

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Wow...This should make the game fun whne the roleclaims start spilling out. There's 16 of us, and only 1 vanilla...Hope i'm still alive for it :P
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Post Post #144 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:50 am

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Blackberry wrote:
Gorrad wrote:And you completely failed to realise that maybe there was a power role that didn't take a night action? And you randomly chose Niv to attack about night actions, despite the wisdom behind, I dunno, waiting until someone else claimed vanilla?
My gut told me NIV was scum, I did not choose him randomly. And I have decided that is more important to go with one's gut (since I've learned in Psych and other courses that when people write down reasons for their decisions they are less accurate, surprisingly).
I wouldn't call it gut, more a subconsious scum vibe you pick from them.

Or maybe your talking about some alien experience to me, but that's just how I find it.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:26 am

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I can't bring myself to believe it. But at the same time, if Blackberry ends up scum, my vote is going for xtoxm next.
Or maybe we're pulling a WIFOM on you :lol:
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Post Post #153 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:57 am

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Twomz wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
I can't bring myself to believe it. But at the same time, if Blackberry ends up scum, my vote is going for xtoxm next.
Or maybe
we're
pulling a WIFOM on you :lol:
You do know that that makes me WAY more suspicious of you right?
Yup :wink:
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Post Post #154 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:59 am

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Twomz wrote:@ BlackBerry: Glork could have easily put "there are no vanilla roles" in a mafia goon's role PM. Or you get to ask a yes or no question each night (to Glork). Regardless at this point I don't trust you to do anything beyond attracting the towns attention... omfg... Glork wouldn't put a jester in his game would he?
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Dammit... jester makes almost as much sense as scum and is more dangerous (unless it is an alternate win condition). Stupid brain :(. Who else thinks it's a possible role? Or am I just being really paranoid now? Because it doesn't explain xtoxm's puppy dog behavior to Blackberry... /shrug oh well, I can always revote for him later.
I heard in another game that the one who brings up the possibility of Jester is almost always mafia. Can't remember the exact statistic, something like 5/6 I think.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:57 am

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Dam, no matter how hard I try not to I always seem to look scummy :(
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Post Post #176 (isolation #24) » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:45 am

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The WIFOM thing was a joke btw, cos of what cyberbob said. Not some tactic to tryt and make you think i'm town because i'm scum.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:19 am

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I'm surprised a claim like that has come out this early. He was ambiguos about what he got for me, but i'm going to have a hard time believing blackerry is scum, so i'd say he's probably paranoid/insane.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:35 am

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I think Monkey is telling the truth, but dismissing the claim of being the only vanilla? seriously...

You could well have your results affected by the weather, I think it's likely, rather than just being paranoid/insane. You should try and figure out what the weather does to your investigation.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:27 am

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FUTR?
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Post Post #198 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:04 am

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Monkey wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:FUTR?
Flying under the radar
Ah right. Yeh they have. I hate lurking as a strategy.

Mod please prod skitzer.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:15 am

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I would support a Twomz lynch. I think your trying to dig yourself out of the hole of mentioning jester.

And how can anyone think Blackberry is scum when he has proved he is the only vanilla townie?
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Post Post #202 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:02 am

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I think monkey is telling the truth...I don't the weather on either night (cloudy then windy) is likely to affected either investigation, and I think Monkey is more likely insane than paranoid, in a game like this.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

We really shouldn't be lynching Blackberry. As he said, Twomz or Gorrad are better targets.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:26 am

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Gorrad wrote:Anyone know why Blackberry and Xtom are showing up as one less vote than there are people?
Um, what?
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Post Post #207 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:30 am

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Oh..I see..Lol :P
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Post Post #214 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:40 pm

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Blackberry wrote:
farside22 wrote:I will give in to the fact that no I haven't played at this site for long. However you didn't address my other concern.
farside22 wrote:
What if Niv had, had a power role when you pointed at him and asked who he targeted? Aren't you giving the scum the opportunity to know one power role with that type of play? Do you see my issue's?
Yes--I see your issues. I did not care at the moment cuz my gut told me NIV was scum.

And saying who he targetted wouldn't give away his role.
He probably didn't target anyone. Look at what his role was...
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Post Post #217 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:01 am

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Twomz wrote:@ xtoxm: You are now trying to say you would support a lynch on someone who is attacking you (and the guy that you have been puppydogging after) when there are two guilty investigations on the two of you?

I'm adding OMGUSing and deflecting to the xtoxm tally.
You are trying to tell me i'm OMGUSing when the fact is I think you are scum.

I'm supposed to go vote someone else I don't find suspicious just cause you're voting for me? lol..
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Post Post #222 (isolation #35) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:44 pm

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Hey, thnx for replacing ;)
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Post Post #224 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:21 pm

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How do you explain no counter claim for being the ONLY vanilla?
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Post Post #227 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:49 pm

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I believe i've seen good evidence...
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Post Post #230 (isolation #38) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:58 pm

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Gorrad wrote:I'm with fhwqwgads here. Xtom, YOU'RE ON MY LIST! #2 on my list, to be precise.
You share the same position on mine :wink:
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Post Post #231 (isolation #39) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:00 pm

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hasdgfas wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I believe i've seen good evidence...
That he can be trusted? He was responsible for the lynch of Niv on Day 1 because of a lie. Why would that make you believe that he can be trusted?
Monkey getting the same result on him as me, and his claim of only vanilla. I can't see scum being told this, I can see a townie being told this.

I also have got a general town vibe off his posts today. He sounds pretty sincere in what he's saying should he be lynched.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #40) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:24 am

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If it comes down to choice between Gorrad and BB i'm definitely voting Gorrad.

I'd quite like to see a new vote count.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #41) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:47 am

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I think monkey's telling the truth cos making up a claim like that is a bit pointless if you're scum, as far as I can see.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #42) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:10 am

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Post Post #252 (isolation #43) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:13 am

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Monkey, I believe your intentions are good but your results are tainted.

Take another look at your role PM, see if anything suggests if you are insane or paranoid.
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Post Post #255 (isolation #44) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:08 am

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Blackberry wrote:Does anyone know WHO Inspector Hound is and can help me find evidence that this person is "paranoid" or "insane."

K, thanks.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #45) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:48 am

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scum could easily claim a cop-type role as they know who the scum are and can get accurate results.
1. I don't think scum would do that this early
2. His results are inaccurate
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Post Post #261 (isolation #46) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:19 am

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ChaosOmega wrote:Gorrad: I'm going to drop the jester thing, because as we've both said, it probably has no bearing on the game at all. I was just a bit wary seeing you advocate meeting the win condition of a non-town party.
Xtoxm wrote:
scum could easily claim a cop-type role as they know who the scum are and can get accurate results.
1. I don't think scum would do that this early
2. His results are inaccurate
1. WIFOM
2. That is from a very biased opinion on the situation.
That's true, but they are.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #47) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:41 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
ChaosOmega wrote:Gorrad: I'm going to drop the jester thing, because as we've both said, it probably has no bearing on the game at all. I was just a bit wary seeing you advocate meeting the win condition of a non-town party.
Xtoxm wrote:
scum could easily claim a cop-type role as they know who the scum are and can get accurate results.
1. I don't think scum would do that this early
2. His results are inaccurate
1. WIFOM
2. That is from a very biased opinion on the situation.
That's true, but they are.
Then argue your case rather than just saying that they're wrong. Why should we believe you over him when I haven't really seen anything pro-town from you.
I have already. What about my play do you think hasn't been pro-town?

Atleast you are actually listening to what I am saying though.

Armlx is just insisting i'm scum without listening to anything I say which is leading me to believe he is scum, as only scum wouldn't care about what someone else has to say.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #48) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:05 am

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Bookitty - Those are valid possible no night action roles, but there are some - And I would suggest most roles are - Imaginativley thought up weather related roles.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #49) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:08 am

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hasdgfas wrote:I spy Xtoxm answering for BB again. let BB answer these questions himself.
My post about weather related roles has absolutley nothing to do with BB. Especially since he's claimed vanilla.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #50) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:14 am

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Bookitty wrote:I'd still prefer that Blackberry answer for himself. Thank you though :)
That wasn't answering for BB! What's wrong with you?!

How does what I said relate in any way to BB??
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Post Post #296 (isolation #51) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:15 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:I spy Xtoxm answering for BB again. let BB answer these questions himself.
My post about weather related roles has absolutley nothing to do with BB. Especially since he's claimed vanilla.
but your post still answered questions that Bookie had for BB, like I said. Just because he may or may not be vanilla doesn't mean he can't answer questions about power roles.
My post answered NONE of Book's Q's.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #52) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:17 am

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Porochaz wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Bookitty - Those are valid possible no night action roles, but there are some - And I would suggest most roles are - Imaginativley thought up weather related roles.
that looks like your answering bookie
Oh really? Which question?
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Post Post #300 (isolation #53) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:23 am

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Bookitty wrote:Xtoxm, your comments seem rather leading. "Weather related roles" isn't something that I asked Blackberry, true, but it might be incorporated in part of his response now due to your interjection of that idea. Your comment was directly in response to a post that wasn't to you nor about you, but was directly addressed to someone else. People answer for other people all the time, but you seem to be acting as Blackberry's press secretary, which isn't helpful in getting HIS unaided responses to questions posed.

I hope that is more clear.
Well my intentions had nothing to do with that. I was informing you as you hadn't mentioned the idea. I'm sure there's quite a few weather related roles in this game.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #54) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:24 am

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Mod, I think CyberBob and Iammars need prodding
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Post Post #308 (isolation #55) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:22 am

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Lol Bookitty you remind me of a lawyer ;)
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Post Post #310 (isolation #56) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:45 am

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Bookitty wrote:Let's not argue about what is and isn't an argument again, X ;)
I don't even remember having this alleged argument with you. I even went back through Open 36 from the time I replaced and couldn't find anything...lol...
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Post Post #313 (isolation #57) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:13 pm

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I really don't know...although I have now broken my "never been scum" record, it's in a completely diff type of game and I have still no experience playing as scum essentially.

Sounds like the easiest thing to do would be to lynch you BB. I think you'll get more useful answers from ppl who've actually played games as scum...
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Post Post #316 (isolation #58) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:55 pm

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armlx wrote:On the topic of roles that have powers but wont activate Night 1:

RB's depending on what the player speculates on the set up.

Vigilantes of all types.

BB's responses have definitely checked out with what I read him as, especially his Iammars point. I agree on that too. Iammars has done the following so far:

Bashed someone for a minor early D1 scum tell.
Voted for Niv at about the tilting point between lynch and pressure.
Acted really knowledgable about cop results and BB's role..

Vote Iammars


BB: It honestly depends on a lot of info what I would do in the situation: number of people in the scum group, number of people with abilities in the scum group, when it was possible to get on your wagon, if I had voted for Niv. Probably would have gone for it though, assuming it wasn't a 3 man scum group all with relevant powers where everyone had voted for Niv and the first person could only get on the wagon to bring it to L-1.
I'd kill night 0 if I was a vig.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #59) » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:58 pm

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Yeh but there's still and good chance you'll hit scum, and what if you get killed that night or lynched day 1? You've just wasted your role doing nothing.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #60) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:05 am

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ChaosOmega wrote:And as a side note:
Xtoxm wrote:I'd kill night 0 if I was a vig.
I cringed a bit reading that.
Why?
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Post Post #333 (isolation #61) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:05 am

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Twomz wrote:
Gorrad wrote:The scum could know when to pick us off (ie right before our specified weather), so I'm against it.
Dammit Gorrad >.> I was trying to catch scum for that very reason. (capital letters in #3 spell "A TRAP").

Well, I guess bookitty kinda nibbled... but not enough to jump on :(. It was worth a try /sigh.
I fail to see how that's a trap. Care to explain?
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Post Post #337 (isolation #62) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:10 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Twomz wrote:
Gorrad wrote:The scum could know when to pick us off (ie right before our specified weather), so I'm against it.
Dammit Gorrad >.> I was trying to catch scum for that very reason. (capital letters in #3 spell "A TRAP").

Well, I guess bookitty kinda nibbled... but not enough to jump on :(. It was worth a try /sigh.
I fail to see how that's a trap. Care to explain?
are you in favor of a weather claim?
Is that supposed to answer my question?

I don't think claiming is a good idea this early. And it would give scum idea's of what our roles do.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #63) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:35 am

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@ Xtoxm: Do you really not get how that was a trap?
No...I see what hads meant when he explained to me like that though...But i'm not convinced by your so called trap.

Also, I think Gorrad sounds pretty sincere there, so i'm gonna
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Post Post #367 (isolation #64) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:34 am

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Twomz, Gorrad, BB.

No point putting myself in there is there. Seeing as I know my role an all.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #65) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:37 am

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Oh, and Twomz, for the part you bolded and underlined...You fail to see the "Not" at the start of the sentence?
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Post Post #374 (isolation #66) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:08 am

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You submarine for a week and turn up within 15 minutes of being prodded...hmm..
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Post Post #375 (isolation #67) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:09 am

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And who is curios George?
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Post Post #379 (isolation #68) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:11 pm

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Blackberry wrote:
Iammars wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:You submarine for a week and turn up within 15 minutes of being prodded...hmm..
I was reading and working on a post when Glork prodded me.
I've been doing the same in all my games right now.

Curious George is a children's book character.
LOL-- I don't think that is what Xtoxm was asking.

Xtoxm-- I assume Iammars and attempting to claim to have some sort of relationship with a mysterious Curious George... O_o.
It's an idea...

Iammars, what is the meaning of that claim request?
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Post Post #381 (isolation #69) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:50 pm

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Iammars wrote:I'm not saying yet. Stop probing unless you are Curious George. It is in the completely beneficial for Curious George to claim.
No.

I want to know why. What does it have to do with anything?

Why is it beneficial for some random player to claim, under no pressure?
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Post Post #384 (isolation #70) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:55 pm

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hasdgfas wrote:Xtoxm, stop fishing.
confirm vote: Xtoxm
Stop fishing?

Iammars is the one asking for a claim.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #71) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:00 pm

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How is curios george claiming beneficial?

I fail to see how it could be.

How do you know curious george is in the game?

And how do you know they are town?
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Post Post #391 (isolation #72) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:23 pm

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Cyberbob wrote:Urgh. Why would you continue to rolefish after having been told it's extremely scummy? :x

Vote: Xtoxm
How is it even scummy? Iammars asks for a claim I question it and that's scummy?

And you've just lurked for all of day 2 pretty much and now turn up and vote me
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Post Post #394 (isolation #73) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:03 am

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Like whoever has curious george is going to claim, even if Iammars is telling the truth.

I wouldn't claim if someone just picked my character and said claim. I'd want full details of why I should claim.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #74) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:15 am

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All these people saying I am very scummy and are going to vote me are probably scum themselves, looking for an excuse.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #75) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:36 am

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Iammars wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Like whoever has curious george is going to claim, even if Iammars is telling the truth.

I wouldn't claim if someone just picked my character and said claim. I'd want full details of why I should claim.
Consider the fact that I KNOW Curious George is in the game.
Perhaps. But why would that make them claim.

I'm not curious george, but I assure you, if I was I wouldn't claim it based on what you've asked. And I highly doubt the real one will either.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #76) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:48 am

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It's foggy tonight btw. But that has the same universal effect as blizzard, so ok...

Everyone post once, saying if you are or aren't. That would probably be enough for me to claim (hypothetically speaking).

Still, Iammars, (assuming you are telling the truth), if you weren't told he was innocent, he won't claim...
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Post Post #409 (isolation #77) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:07 am

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Monkey wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:It's foggy tonight btw. But that has the same universal effect as blizzard, so ok...

Everyone post once, saying if you are or aren't. That would probably be enough for me to claim (hypothetically speaking).

Still, Iammars, (assuming you are telling the truth), if you weren't told he was innocent, he won't claim...
Are or aren't what? Curious George?

The answer obviously for me would be not.
Yeh I know..But it's easier to say everyone rather than everyone except BB and Monkey, and saying that was pointless anyway cos everyone already know's your claims
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Post Post #411 (isolation #78) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:25 am

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hasdgfas wrote:I think I understand where Iammars is going with this.
Xtoxm: telling everyone that you want them to claim george/not george and that you want to go last isn't pro-town at all. I am willing to do my part, but you can't expect everyone to just let you go last just because you want to.
Um, what?
Where
did you get that I said I wanted to go last?

Oh...Did you also miss the part where I said I wasn't george?
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Post Post #414 (isolation #79) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:59 am

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hasdgfas wrote:but why are you unwilling to claim unless other people claim george/not george?
Not unless, 2 unrelated topics.

I said I would be unwilling to claim based solely on Iammars saying "whoever has him should claim"

...Seriously, say you're in another game, and someone says whoever has X should claim, and you are named X, based on that solely that, would you claim?

I said people should now say whether they are or aren't based on the new info Iammars gave.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #80) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:13 pm

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ChaosOmega wrote:
unvote, vote Xtoxm


You went from acting noobish and harmless to acting noobish and possibly damaging to the town. Did you set up the noob act to do something scummy later and not be accused by going "Oops, I don't know any better"?
I didn't set up a noob act. I'm not being a noob. I don't know how what I did is being considered so scummy.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #81) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:25 am

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I am clearly today's lynch so I will claim.

I am Coroner Rick, a Coroner. Once in the game I am allowed to examine a dead body and find out what their role is (was). I was planning to use it during the first phase of fog/blizzard during the day, so we can find out if we lynched scum or town.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #82) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:33 am

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The name "Rick" on the end of it is pretty insignificant. It essentially is the same as my role. And from this you can clearly see that a vanilla townie being called townie is believable/likely.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #83) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:02 am

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Well i'm not scum. I'm telling the truth and that is my role. I'll C+P my notes on this game for future reference if i'm lynched.

Me - Coroner

Blackberry - Only vanilla townie
Armlx - Town
Monkey - Insane/paranoid Cop
ChaosOmega - Town
Iammars - Man with Yellow Hat

Twomz - Scum
Cyberbob - Scum
Porochaz - Scum
Bookitty - dodgy
Hasdgfas - dodgy

Farside - Probable Town
Gorrad - Probable Town, Weather related role

Note that where I say scum this does not mean I am certain, it means that's my opinion of them.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #84) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:17 am

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Why are you voting for me now? What about my claim makes me look anything other than town?

You are just admitting you are scum now...
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Post Post #428 (isolation #85) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:34 am

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Post Post #431 (isolation #86) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:59 am

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Cyberbob wrote:
Blackberry wrote:Errr--I have a role name--Who said I didn't? O_o
He was talking to xtoxm.
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What?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #87) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:07 am

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Blackberry wrote:
UNVOTE--VOTE: TWOMZ
(I thought I did this earlier but I suppose I didn't ... O_o?
I'm thinking Glork left your vote out of the count on purpose cos he doesn't like the caps?
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Post Post #445 (isolation #88) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:34 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Well i'm not scum. I'm telling the truth and that is my role. I'll C+P my notes on this game for future reference if i'm lynched.

Me - Coroner

Blackberry - Only vanilla townie
Armlx - Town
Monkey - Insane/paranoid Cop
ChaosOmega - Town
Iammars - Man with Yellow Hat

Twomz - Scum
Cyberbob - Scum
Porochaz - Scum
Bookitty - dodgy
Hasdgfas - dodgy

Farside - Probable Town
Gorrad - Probable Town, Weather related role

Note that where I say scum this does not mean I am certain, it means that's my opinion of them.
Twomz's mega-OMGUS looks really suspicious, but he has a good point that you shouldn't be labeling people without actually posting your reasons. If you post sensible reasons behind your thoughts on everyone, I *may* switch my vote. No promises though, as I still have a high suspicion of you. Suspicion of Twomz is growing greatly, however.
I will go back through the thread and post a more detailed anaylisis of everyone, and explain why I have people where they are.
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Post Post #447 (isolation #89) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:41 am

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3) BB: You said that your role was Vanilla townie, and that you had no "name". Xtoxm agreed that he too had no role name. Well, now he's trying to say that that's not true, and giving no real reason for it (Coroner is to a role as Coroner Rick is to a role name. Vanilla townie is to a role as _______ is to a role name).
I never said I had no role name, I said my name was the same as my role.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #90) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:49 am

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That would be Monkey. I never thought to ask. This will be interesting to see.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #91) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:28 am

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Okay so my analysis of all players, minus myself. (In no particular order...)

I am assuming, for the moment, that there are 4 scum in the game, given the 3:1 ratio. Does everyone agree with this?

Blackerry - Um, yeh. Uber pro-town. Completely foolproof claim, as far as I can see.

Gorrad - I was suspicious of but now think he's town. His claim seems to be sincere and he sounds like he's telling the truth. His hammering day 1 is definitely forgivable, given the "evidence" we had.

Twomz - Scum. I've kinda been going on about this a lot, so I don't think I need to restate it here, however if it's requested I will. Other than Twomz. He recently stated he doesn't care what I have to say about him so I will return that.

Cyberbob - I think he's scum. I don't like the way he's lurked for pretty much the whole of today, and turned up only to say i'm very scummy and add his vote to my bandwagon.

Armlx - I think he is town. He seems to be looking carefully and finding reasons to vote. His opinions on Blackberry seem genuine, and his change in opinion of me over time seems genuine also, and he has backed up with good reasons everything he has done.

ChaosOmega - Town. He brought up the wiki article about Inspector Hound, showing the rest of the town that he is indeed unlikely to be sane, as I know he isn't. This is a very pro-town thing to do IMO, and I can't see a scum doing this. And it's not like he was under any pressure to make himself look innocent either.

Bookitty - Leaning scum. Didn't like the banter with Twomz. Also didn't like the way Twomz said about Bookitty nibbled but didn't bite. Possibly an attempt at distancing? She also seems to have subsided into lurking now, which I believe increases the chances she is scum. Lurking always does.

Hadsfgas - Nuetral (newly upgraded) Always the one you can't get a read on. My opinion of him has swung from each extreme more than once in this game. Initially I didn't like his pressure on Farside for the "Doc's dead" syndrome. His supsicions of me at the start of today seemed genuine, and I settled into to think he was a townie that thought I was scum. But I didn't like the way he insisted it was likely that Blackberry was scum and Glork could have told scum that there are no vanilla townies in the game. Didn't like the way he said I haven't done anything pro-town, but that might be subconsioucly taken as a personal thing which i'm obviously not goign to like, so i'll overlook. He says i'm answering for BB and I think he uses it as part of a case against me. But I REALLY didn't like the way he started the whole "fishing" argument against me, I was not fishing at all. And it was this that started a bandwagon on me for nothing. However, the recent case of unvoting me and giving me time to defend myself I think is pro-town. So i'm gonna leave at nuetral for the moment. Blegh, hard to read :(

Porochaz - Don't like the way he has added himself to my badnwagon without actually voting, over the whole scummy rolefishing thing, which I believe is totally scum instigated. Possibly not Hadfgas who brought it up, but Porochaz and Cyberbob who are just bandwagoning me for it I am highly suspicious of.

Farside - Overall i've liked the way she's played and I think she's come to good conlusions recently and is getting progressivally more pro-town IMO, hard for me to see her as scum.

Iammars - Hate the lurking but His recent claim Probably isn't something scum would try to pull of, I don't think.

Monkey - I believe his claim and I think he's playing pretty well. Everything related to his claim seems to fit into line. I think it's more likely he's insane than paranoid.

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Post Post #464 (isolation #92) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:29 pm

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Ok - Point taken on the fishing.

About the "argument" that there's a possibility that Glork told the scum there are no townies - I isolated your posts and you did back it at one point.

Noted that you think it's unlikely...Personally think it's absurd.
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Post Post #499 (isolation #93) » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:50 pm

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Iammars, I ask again. Are you sure George is town? Cos if he's mafia he won't claim.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #94) » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:26 am

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No I believe BB...I don't think he is lying there...Agree with the first bit though
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Post Post #508 (isolation #95) » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:43 am

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Yeh that's probably not likely...I think there are 3 possibilties...

1. George is scum.
2. Iammars is bullshitting.
3. George wasn't told they are George.

In order of liklihood, IMO.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #96) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:46 am

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I just thought of something. Perhaps Iammars knows George is town cos he is scum. And when he finds George he joins the group.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #97) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:54 am

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Well if you look at the dead ppl Dr Neo Cortex is the antagonist in that game but he's townside here.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #98) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:38 pm

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oh, forgot to
vote Twomz


He's a much better lynch guys...
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Post Post #537 (isolation #99) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:22 pm

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I'll help you out mate it's clear i'm going to be lynched. End the day up now. Disappointed to have to leave this game :(

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Post Post #539 (isolation #100) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:27 pm

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Why? I thought you guys wanted this information. You're all willing to hammer me before the deadlne to get confirmation i'm telling the truth, which Glork will momentarily confirm, and a Twomz lynch was not forthcoming.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #101) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:29 pm

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The discussion was going no-where. I tried to make you guys change to a Twomz lynch but you all just wanted to sit around doing nothing and wait for the deadline. This was always going to happen.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #102) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:31 pm

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I'd done all I could. This was always goign to happen. From when Monkey decided I was lying.
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Post Post #544 (isolation #103) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:32 pm

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I'm not saying
you
wouldn't have but there were too many set on me.
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #104) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:58 am

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Aww..I named 2 of the scum correctly!

I think that's quite good. :P

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