Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

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Grey
Pine
Implosion

Nosferatu
Fire
Prana
Persivul
TwoFace
Wheme

---------<--- line of lynchability

Desperado
Alz


VOTE: desperado

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whoa

what

no one's ever used the line of lynchability before!!!!

I have used your own weapon against you.. your one weakness!!!!

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vote: Alz

For not knowing fat bastards use Diet Coke to pretend they're dieting.

Bad rvs is bad. You are added to the hitlist and you should feel bad

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He's voting for someone you consider lynchable.

Why is it bad, exactly?

because he's clearly bussing bruh

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VOTE: pieg

OH YOU DID THAT DID YOU

VOTE: TwoFace

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He's voting for someone you consider lynchable.

Why is it bad, exactly?

because he's clearly bussing bruh

Why is his vote bad if he's bussing?

A scum lynch will go through easier if they're being bussed, so why exactly is that a problem?

did i say it was a problem

VOTE: prana

just try and unvote now u skinny fuck

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i have 2 votes btw this game

and i can put them both on the same person

VOTE: prana

GETTIN REKT M8

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persivul you may now abdicate your ability to perform the action 'tonal read'

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No I'm not.

VOTE: 2face

one of my votes is still on prana obv

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Naah that double voter will come in here and wreck you

it was mighty tempting ngl

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yeah he doesn't have a double vote. not sure why he is pretending he does

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VOTE: desperado

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oh yeah i have no avatar

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then you're an arrogant cuck

i now have an avatar

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ABLIST

i am now the police

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which reminds me

@nexus

, you missed my vote in the VC (assuming there's no shenanigans).

Desperado remains an excellent vote.

pieg is town. Persivul is town. Wheme looks somewhat town, but not as town as I thought he likely would if he was town so we'll see. massive is likely town. Fire's decently likely town, his early tone felt off but i like his reads.

these kind of posts never bode well imo

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Curious what others think.

i think you're a townie quavering against the sr in your gut

i think desp's angermoments are contrived

and i will quote something for truth values

I think Desperado is still a lovely wagon.

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i think you're a townie quavering against the sr in your gut

Why is implosion town?

tone doesn't suck and i like his reads

Anger?

More like confusion/exasperation.

these are included

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you don't the word i coined

i am offended

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you don't like the word i coined

i am offended

edit

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the fact that pieg is perpetuating a read implosion has of him that he obviously knows is faulty is awful
VOTE: pieg

let's not pretend this isn't omgus

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the fact that pieg is perpetuating a read implosion has of him that he obviously knows is faulty is awful
VOTE: pieg

let's not pretend this isn't omgus

how about pieg willfully letting implosion have a read that he knows is faulty in reasoning?

pedit: then why are some people who haven't posted in the readlist while some people aren't? Desperado frequently uses that readlist. If you can't see that as RVS idk what to tell you. HE EVEN JOKES ABOUT IT IN HIS NEXT POST.

i = they. also bruh you're trying too hard. imp's reasoning was a-okay, readlist was sirius i get early reads and fly with 'em and joke about it all the while that's how i do

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the 3rd used vague scummy buzzwords.

ohh noooooooo!!!!!!!¡¡¡1¡1¡11¡1¡1¡1¡11¡1¡¿!!¿!¿!¿!¿

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why did i quote that twice

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pine is my top tr btw

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we do? you are grasping at straws now, scummymcscummer

VOTE: nos

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Pine
Grey
Firebringer
massive
WhemeStar
implosion
Persivul
TwoFace
[] - GATE O' DETH
Desperado
Alz
PranaDevil
Nosferatu

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bc ur obvtown obv

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we do? you are grasping at straws now, scummymcscummer

VOTE: nos

what are you doing

that seems a rather aimless question. in the post you quoted, i am calling you scums and voting you because i want you to die more than i like the desp wagon. do you need help reading any other posts?

I don't understand why pieg is townreading me so much.

considering pine is my top tr, what does so much mean to you?

Eat deth

did u just scumclaim

Eat deth

deth Eat

deth Eat re

deth Eater

Death Eater

I don't understand mafia, someone teach me

it goes like this:

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Eat deth

did u just scumclaim

Eat deth

deth Eat

deth Eat re

deth Eater

Death Eater

Obviously I didn't, since you had to add the

e

and

r

yourself.

Close! But no cigar...

i only needed the er from your name hence why scumclaim!!

but let us cease this shittery

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I would vote pieg if I took their posts more seriously.

my posts are very serious at heart if not at surface

pedit the a was a simple matter of typo correction

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pieg, are you townreading pine just for the post restriction, or do you think his play is town beyond that? If the latter why?

no yes because gut

but his posts are actually meaningful if you take the imaginative leap and look at what he's actually trying to express, not to mention they're fucking hilarious so idk why people are hating on the memes

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Looool look at 1 scum jumping on my wagon and 1 scum jumping off.

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@implosion: I was avoiding putting the blame on you because I didn't want to be upfront and call you a fucking dumbass. You're trying so hard to believe in something that is obviously fake as shit. He copied desp's read format to vote him, included many people who weren't present in the list, and included them indiscriminately. Copy this down in your notes, do whatever you have to do to consult this later: This right here is why I think it was RVS.

horsepucky, the fact that i used desp's readslist as a joke has no bearing whatsoever about the fact that the reads were real. i voted him because his tone was wut and there were already 2 votes on him so it was fast-track wagon to getting out of RVS. your shit is fake you're pushing bad pills you're fucking dead as today's lynch buh-bye scum signed sealed and delivered.

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you had not even posted yet lol

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You should really make some sort of tutorial for talking out of your ass I'm really finding difficulty with it.

do you have a habit of talking yourself in mafia or just when you're scum?

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You should really make some sort of tutorial for talking out of your ass I'm really finding difficulty with it.

do you have a habit of talking yourself in mafia or just when you're scum?

I want you to try your best to fix that sentence to make any sense whatsoever

sry i forgot you don't know how to read posts v well. your iso = talking out of ur ass

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these exchanges are unproductive and just inflate the game post count, so unless you've got something to say, just stop.

i like how you spew a bunch of bullshit about my and implosion's slots and then repeatedly pretend like nothing happened hoping that i'll just lose interest and go away

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VOTE: devil

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Desp and Pine are Town tho.

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why did this game die

i should probably call one of my trs scum

that'll get people riled up

.. grey why did you have to roll scum this game

VOTE: grey

fite me

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how is your join date 2010

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I could see myself lynching Persivul over Firebringer if they decide to 1v1.

I could see myself misspelling Persivul.

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UNVOTE:
Pers isn't that scummy. Just wrong.

speaking of which,

@pieg: one question for you, how exactly did you come up with the order for the players who hadn't spoken yet in your read list? I'd be willing to change my read based on your answer.

Oh I love appeasing scums! I read activity overview and randomly entered them. How in the world could you consider changing a read based on that?

VOTE: nos

I misspelled Persivul because foneposting.

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yeah, figures. I was considering that you might've taken from the activity overview which would invalidate my case. Which you just did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

what was your case lol

how were you scumreading someone based on how they wrote their readslist

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Hitlist is nos and alz so far. Don't tread alz for his waffle walls, that's his scum meta

Zero reason for massive to be a tr right now, even if he's town

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Nvm you did say it was weak

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alisae what are your thoughts about the current gamestate and leading wagons?

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alisae what are your thoughts about the current gamestate and leading wagons?

You should read my ISO!

no need, i've been here since before you arrived. you should read the game. you've been posturing since replace in.

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how wrong is he on a scale of 0-10?

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also you're talking to desp not grey

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if this game is as easy as {nos, alz, wheme} i'm gonna laugh

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if this game is as easy as {nos, alz, wheme} i'm gonna laugh

well Alisae is scum so at least one of those is incorrect

generally just assume that at least one is going to be wrong

how wrong is he on a scale of 0-10?

What...

how wrong is he that you are scum on a scale of 0-10, it's a very simple question

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if pine is going to sheep alisae, alisae should sheep me, and we can be a happy family

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helpful hint: your reads aren't godperfect

alisae is probably actually town

bye won't miss the attitude

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i kinda want to quote every post where i'm misgendered in one post and edit them all to reflect my actual pronoun with a big ftfy at the bottom so that people will finally get the fucking picture that i'm not a male human being

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also i'm pretty sure everyone here is sufficiently familiar with each other's games for the poe to be pretty fucky easy and considering desp fire ali pine 2fslot are all obvious town we basically only need 2-3 lynches to crack the scumteam and win

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game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum

VOTE: wheme

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so have i tho

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guys it's day 1 why are we talking about making cases lmao

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game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum

VOTE: wheme

I can't see scum literally asking to be part of a townbloc :/

so have i tho

which game was that?

why can't you see scum asking to be part of a townbloc? is this in reference to you?

i am a secret alt!

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what made you decide to break out of that mid game?

If you go back my reasoning was that I was starting to get votes on me. Which got me even more SR by town, same thing Fire is doing to me now

VOTE: wheme

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Actually no I changed my mind I'm not explaining my Fire TR today.

why

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read the post again and try to follow the vote to its logical conclusion

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you win all the prizes now give me prizes in return by dishing out reasonings

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if you are town it is in my best interest to keep you alive

in order to keep you alive i must know that you are town

in order to know that you are town i must receive tributes of reasonings and myrrh

once i know you are town i may direct my attentions to the other scumlord candidates

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let me give you an example

alz is a scumlord candidate because his posts are long and ask many questions but do not display any original thought

because he voted desperado without reason and did nothing with the vote

because he voted me without reason and did nothing with the vote

because when i revealed that i was familiar with alz's scum meta he immediately started buddying me

alz's postings seems very busy but actually do nothing

is that helpful?

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regardless of whether you think you can get a read off pine's actual posts due to them not containing words, you are still able to see who he interacts with and how

saying that you can't get a read off pine's posting is just lazy

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But I read his frustration as genuine.

I am a tone reading and I don't feel any sense of frustration from Whemes posts tbh.

ditto

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i hope you realize that my vote on you is with the intention to kill, wheme

i would not vote you for any other reason

if you want to convince me and everyone else not to kill you, you had better start offering those tributes

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regardless of whether you think you can get a read off pine's actual posts due to them not containing words, you are still able to see who he interacts with and how

saying that you can't get a read off pine's posting is just lazy

Or saying you

can

get a read from it is just BS.

Do you believe the post restriction?

I can get a read from it, albeit a weak one. He has taken stances and responded to thread. Other slots have responded to him. There's very little in mafia that is not ai if you grok it well. For instance, do you think that people have expressed displeasure over the memes without wagoning him is alignment indicative or pine indicative? It's irrelevant whether i believe the restriction or no, what's significant is why he would be faking one, and what the implications are for treating the slot if it continues beyond d1.

Also, why is there only one interpretation of wheme's behavior under pressure? If he's scum with no clue what to do and people want to kill him, why would he not simply feel more paralyzed? Why the need to impose a stereotyped behavior pattern on him?

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VOTE: Aliz by far my first choice today, all his posts are cautious and non-committal

pieg, Alisae, Firebringer and TheRealGin-N-Tonic are all obvtown

Leaning town for Desperado and Nosferatu

Never played with Persivul or Pine before and their play didn't really stick out to me... null

I'm going back and forth on Wheme being scum or town with no motivation

scumleaning massive, his 729 post is just awful and shady

Why am i obvtown? Why is 729 awful and shady and how is that ai? Why is nos a townlean?

Phone posting is shit

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VOTE: alz

Your mislynch is shit pine

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Hitlist: alz, nos, massive, pine

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Hitlist: alz, nos, massive, pine

Care to explain change of reads

pine's vote was crapgalore and put the rest of his content today in perspective. why are you asking me to splain when you can't do the same in the slightest?

VOTE: alz

Your mislynch is shit pine

you're at the back end of my hitlist bruh but that vote was lazy and bad, and not lazy in a imma get fat way

First, consider the timing - this post came shortly after I called for a wagon. Prior to that we got nothing.

Second, this is really vague stuff. Only two people got reasons of any sort, and those were just "cautious and non-committal" and "his 729 post is just awful and shady."

It's pretty underwhelming and could easily be scum seeing my vote and trying to head off trouble.

know whose posts are even more underwhelming? alz's. and yet people pile onto the darklyn wagon and no one except imp, desp and me seemed bothered by it. something going on here, ye thinks?

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UNVOTE:

scummy unvote m8. your darklyn vote was also scummy af and even worse than pine's

don't you have any opinions of your own?

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UNVOTE:

scummy unvote m8. your darklyn vote was also scummy af and even worse than pine's

don't you have any opinions of your own?

Are you genuinely stupid?

I don't mean to tap dance around rule 0 but like...mate I bloody started the Dark wagon. I pushed my own reasons and multiple times analyzed different parts of Dark's play to explain to implosion as to why I thought he was scum and no one mentioned jack in the thread to what I explained.

Also, when analyzing someone's play, you're basically scum reading me on the "damned if I do, damned if I don't" fallacy and that's fucked. I voted Dark and you say it's scummy. I unvote Dark and you say it's scummy. Either way you're trying to paint whatever I do as scummy. No bueno senior.


Be like implosion and Desp and try to show me why I'm wrong instead of simply discrediting my slot in general, mkay? Thanks.




Oh and you could always ask for why I unvote before you damn something... Let me go ahead and kill your whole "scummy" concerns here.

Pro-Town for unvoting

Pro-Scum to keep vote on

L-1 slot, gives slot breathing room

Easy vote

Allows slot time to prove me wrong

Quick wagon so I wouldn't be blamed.

Since i just joined in, it's a self check that I don't rush into the day

End day without needing to add on much content

Unvoting shows I'm not deathtunneling

Shows I wish to continue talking and get more reads before EoD.

That's just a couple things I threw together. You can paint it as scummy all you want but analyzing the play itself is pro-town as fuck.

Spoiler:

you act like scum can't be superficially pro-town. your vote was scummy because it was easy and on a superficially scummy slot. your unvote is scummy because you only unvoted AFTER there was resistance to the wagon, not when he got to l-1. saying that it was because of the l-1 is a great bit of crock because your iso proves otherwise (not that he was even at l-1). anyone on the table who is remotely perceptive will be quite aware that darklyn is not going to do jack shit to appease anyone or make himself appear towny so the unvote is functionally useless unless you expect a lolhammer from somewhere. for all the reconsidering you're apparently allowing of darklyn, you've done zilch to encourage it. a passive unvote is pure posture.

can't help but notice thatall of the reasons you listed why it was pro-town aside from giving the slot room to breathe actually only serve to make you look towny.

your arguments for darklyn's scumminess came after your vote when there was already support for the idea of scum!darklyn and therefore are not indicative of hunting on your part. your analysis of darklyn's play is blowing surface-level scumminess out of proportion and therefore garbage. if there is 1 scum in this game i'd hang my hat on it's you.

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I can see Dark and pieg being scum together.

from this post alone i can reasonably safely deduce three things about you as a player

1. you are highly prone to conf!bias
b. you aren't attuned to gamestates
5. you don't grok readily

in this gamestate the chances of dark and i being scum together are astronomically miniscule. if i were scum with darklyn's sorry ass i would absoluuuutely never hunt on his wagon. i would powerbus him like there was no tomorrow.

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Bold 1:

You're telling me a slot is scummy but damning me for voting for something scummy.

superficially scummy is very different to scummy. i don't think i have to tell anyone here that scum (eg you) love to jump on superficially scummy behavior as if it's clear-cut scum indicative

Italicized 1:

Resistance equals counterarguments, counterarguments equal discussion, discussion equals town wins. Simple game philosophy.

great philosophy, but you're basically just saying words in the attempt to deflect my point. 955 956 was when you would've unvoted if you were town. instead you said "let him die". unvoting when you did without a word is just scum trying to make itself seem towny.

Underlined 1:

I'm pretty sure when someone is at 6 votes and it takes 7 to lynch, that's at L-1, there was a vote count and everything lol
945 Looks clear to me like an L-1

974

Bold 2:

So....you're telling me that Darklyn will basically always be a scummy slot and you don't wish to vote a scummy slot. Bad.

again you twist my words. superficially scummy is very different to scummy. i will gladly wagon superficially scummy players if i think the threat of dying will cause them to begin hunting their way off the wagon AS LONG AS i do not have any other wagons that i want to push at that time, i will not wagon superficially scummy players in lieu of actual hunting and pushing slots that are actually very likely to flip red. i have no interest in lynching bad towns (which is what darklyn/wheme are most likely to be) when i have strong scumreads.

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What if I also secretly told you, but make sure to not tell anyone, I might have moved my vote. WAIT, did I have possible other scum reads and want to pursue those as well? Nah that couldn't be it. I should have given a reason saying it was so I made sure I wasn't death tunneling. OH WAIT.

nothing in your iso indicates any of those things are the case so this is just post-hoc

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You're saying right here. Gin, this makes it look like you're making a town post. Fuck you must be scum. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

there's a significant difference between a superficially towny post and a town post. the former is a good post coming from scum. the latter is a bad post coming from town. your posting is good, you're just scum

Bold 3:

Yes, the dick sucking and the analysis of him replacing in was told by whom before me? My guy, he was at 1 vote and I said a couple things, obviously new things, and people were swayed to move onto Dark. If my ideas were already stated before, the wagon wouldn't have formed and someone would have told me that it was already discussed; but it wasn't.

jokes about dick sucking are now scum indicative? i don't believe you are so influential in this game that you swayed people to the dark wagon when persivul was the one who first started pushing dark and there were yet other players who had been more or less peeved at the slot before you even replaced in (yours truly, for instance).

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Nah son, this is an all town game There wouldn't be any scum in it.

the meaning of the idiom is that if i had 1 and only 1 pick to make this game for scum, it would be you.

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i only have one vote m8

your point is completely irrelevant

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i'm not interested in your approval implo

and i'm pushing a different wagon right now that will probably also flip scum, so your cutesy attempts to distract me go unheeded

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i'm pushing a different wagon right now that will probably also flip scum, so your cutesy attempts to distract me go unheeded

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if you were aware of the gamestate right now ali, you would be keyed on the fact that the likelihood of gin and alz being scumpartners just went up by a fair bit

not only is gin failing to address anything in my attack on him (because he can't, he knows he'll lose if he tries), he's trying to derail the alz wagon by drawing a vanity vote from the person pushing it

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i've been sassy all game bruh

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bc i know his scum meta and he's blatantly trying to avoid me after buddying me failed to work and he's done jack shit all game whereas dark has actually voted scum and dark's wagon composition is disgusting so he's either scum with like massive and pine or he's just a ml

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already cased him in my iso

notice the tonal switch after i called him scum

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plus nos already offered to bus alz

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you don't understand how i play

at that point in the game my vote was best put to use on wheme

vanity wagons are of no interest to me

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already told you why i think he's more likely to be town

like two posts ago

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i'm not even defending dark lol i'm just hunting

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nah m8 i've attacking the living shit out of you

dark is incidental to all this

1033

not a case just gamestate analysis

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i've been*

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bruh read 1033

his iso contains 1 meaningful post contain two very meaningful words: vote: alz

i don't see any content that damns him as scum or thrones him as town either way

gamestate says he's slightly more likely to be town than scum

i want alz to die

i am hunting, idc who is incidental to my hunting i will hunt

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almost the only way dark flips scum in my mind is if two of you, pine and massive

maybe you unvoted when it looked like he may be saved

idk

but i sr alz and nos more than pine and massive

so it remains hockitypock

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almost the only way dark flips scum in my mind is if two of you, pine and massive were bussing

maybe you unvoted when it looked like he may be saved

idk

but i sr alz and nos more than pine and massive

so it remains hockitypock

edit

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hadn't looked at his activity

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ok

i'm willing to hammer

let's see where this goes

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just under 2 days to deadline

optimal time for a lynch

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either way this flips we have excellent info from wagons

if alz flips scum that was officially the most obvious distancing by nos

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VOTE: dark

your hammer gin

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can't comment on ongoings naturally but he seems fairly unreadable, as in he's just always surface scum and doesn't do shit. i'm inclined to think it's playstyle which is why i don't get scumvibes off it

his post was bad as i've said before but i like his vote

either way i rescind my sr on you from this exchange

postures on voting on alz in 989

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ali
imp
desp
pers
fire
gin
wheme
dark
pine
massive
nos
alz

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kk

sweet dreams

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that was a self-hammer

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You can of course do whatever you want based on meta, but to say that dark has done more than alz this game is just objectively wrong. Anyone can look up their isos and see that.

alz has done diddly-squat to advance the gamestate i don't give a shit for his walls of nothingness

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btw dark as long as you keep playing like this you will keep getting lynched like this

it's anti-town and not even good mariar anti-town it's just crap and you're a nuisance to town and a pawn for scum to play with

like i'm saying this with all the love in my heart

please stop playing so intentionally bad like this

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lol nos you are so blatantly scum i want to cry

and yes it was hammer unless i am miscounting he voted alz earlier and i put him to l-1

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VOTE: Alz

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i'm not completely sold on scum!alz yet and i want way more content before we think about ending the day

i'd be more confident in fire flipping scum after seeing him d2. he's waffled about pine all game and looks like he's operating off more information. hasn't done jack. complaining about the dark wagon even though he said day 1 that he didn't care enough to try to stop it. didn't really express a read on wheme yesterday aside from saying he didn't read his frustration as genuine and now has him as town. i wouldn't oppose a wheme wagon.

VOTE: fire

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i'd be more confident in fire flipping scum after seeing him d2. he's waffled about pine all game and looks like he's operating off more information. hasn't done jack. complaining about the dark wagon even though he said day 1 that he didn't care enough to try to stop it. didn't really express a read on wheme yesterday aside from saying he didn't read his frustration as genuine and now has him as town. i wouldn't oppose a wheme wagon.

Theres a lot of false statements in here and I am trying to unpack how you got to these.
1) I didn't waffle on Pine at all Day 1, I called him town and said I wouldn't lynch him.
2) How have I not done jack if you just listed stuff I have done (even if the things you listed is inaccurate)
3) yeah i complained about dark wagon, but you complained about it too. So.....does it mean something?
4) I totally did express a read on wheme, it was as desp said, half the day i called him town half the day i called him scum, and even in this sentence you say I am calling him town.

5) Why wouldn't you oppose wheme wagon? What does that have to do with me?

I am so confused.

1. you waffled about his meta. you didn't call him town you just said you wouldn't lynch him
2. you haven't done anything except push wheme after desp was already pushing him, so basically nothing
3. i didn't complain about it today or yesterday, and you're misrepping by trying to make it about yesterday because i clearly said you complained about it today which is fucking easy for anyone to do and isn't even in line with your stances when the wagon was happening
4. stating a read is not expressing anything. you asked him a few questions then didn't bother any further and all you seemed to have gotten out of it was that his tone wasn't genuine
5. because i think you're scum and i don't like your interactions with wheme so that wagon helps me sort you obviously

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yes.

tell me if this is an inaccurate summation of your stance on wheme

town, until people start pointing out how shit his play is, at which point scum, then later town again because you don't think pine could fake scumpartner interactions

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i don't see it in your iso. you interact with him as if he's town without calling him town or not scum. i think you commented once about the post restriction being dumb for scum to do. saying you aren't going to lynch pine d1 isn't a stance on his alignment so much as statement that you're going to forfeit any attempt at properly sorting him

i haven't moved goalposts. doing things is pushing the gamestate forward. idly asking questions and such is not doing things. pushing wagons and hunting is doing things.

blanking stating 'x is scum' is not expressing anything, no. you didn't do anything with your questions and he barely gave you anything and yet now your read has flipped

didn't say you buddied. i think your townread wasn't reasoned out, i think your scumread wasn't reasoned out. (also bussing and distancing are not interchangeable but that's an aside.) what he has done that is scummy is precisely nothing. he hasn't done anything. at all.

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blankly stating*

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cool. my vote on you stays.

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if you didn't want to deal with my hunting you should've killed me last night

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i wrote this and forgot to post it lol

i'm not completely sold on scum!alz yet and i want way more content before we think about ending the day

Did you not refuse to vote me and push Alz because you had meta on him pretty hard?

no, i didn't vote you because a you wagon wasn't happening whereas an alz wagon was

complaining about the dark wagon even though he said day 1 that he didn't care enough to try to stop it.

didn't you do the exact same thing except actually voted him?

i didn't complain once about the wagon, i just hunted on it

btw dark as long as you keep playing like this you will keep getting lynched like this

it's anti-town and not even good mariar anti-town it's just crap and you're a nuisance to town and a pawn for scum to play with

like i'm saying this with all the love in my heart

please stop playing so intentionally bad like this

like this.

how is this complaining about the dark wagon?

also what happened to your scum read on alz?

i have a scumread on alz so nothing happened to it?

I'm P-sure Alz never posted near the end of the Dark wagon nor has he posted today so how does it change?

is this addressed to me?

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doesn't feel forced to me. why does it feel forced to you?

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White knighting him while your buddies drive the wagon fits just fine

why is momomassive scum?

I had massive as null, the games I've played with Momo makes me want to vote him.

+1 this is obvtown

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because reasons

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is alz ever gonna come and play this game

nos come and talk to me?

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hi alz! talk to me about things

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anything you like. i've been trying to lynch you for a while now, how do you feel about that?

who are you scumreading?

who is your most favoritest slot on the board?

what do you think about pine?

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i'm dying to interact with you in realtimes alz

let's get a flow going

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mood: empathetic

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i'm not actually sring you btw i was townhunting but i was too aggggresssiivvvee and you ran away

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you always pocket me tho and it makes me paranoid

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are you still going to bed am i alone ??

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really? why?

pedit bc that's how i do baby

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faking an sr to sort town is standard pieg meta lol

so are those kinds of pushes

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keep in mind you did say you wouldn't get angry at the next person to sr you

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ok

pedit they're the one thing i think it's fine to test reactions on

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the only read i've faked all game is the sr on you. you were at the dead bottom of my town pile before i pushed on you

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like i get that you would feel miffed about being pushed on for asinine reasons but it's an excellent way to get reactions, and not just from you

pedit ?

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my trs aren't dirty so don't be rude

i vet the fuck out of them

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whatever fire

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i am ruined

o noes i alt slipped

guten nacht

i is lonesome

NOW MY EXPERIMENTAL ALT IS A FAILURE WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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wasn't trying to be a contrarian

was pushing you in specific ways for a specific reason. it may be asinine but that's the point of this alt, or was

pedit lol

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VOTE: alz

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sadly not indeed. pretty much no motivation to play now that i slipped

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yea i hate subbing out

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like i changed gender and all specifically so that ppl wouldn't know it was me and i couldn't try some dumb/weird style of play or whatever but *shrug*

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my only scumtell is that i just fucking suck when i'm scum

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xd

i think your scum game is good too

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and no, your town game isn't shit duh

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ur such a kidder

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night

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sweet dreams hon

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hi

why are ppl voting u?

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your claim was obv fake tho

do you have scumreads?

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why did you approve the vote with fire actually lol

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i see

pedit oh i guess that means i'd have to read ur iso

that would take effort

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can we talk about food instead

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nvm pine will get pissed at me

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fuck that's bad :////

i hope you're ok

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hi doggie

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fire i keep looking at this post where you say my wagon screams mislynch and i just dunno why you said that and every time i wanna give you the benefit of the doubt but i feel like that's something scums would say and i kinda wanna vote you

pedit hi space station

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i feel bad about it tho

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weeeell can you tell me why town!you says that?

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examples would be good, i like examples

only if you want to tho

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i actually thought your response to me yesterday was really towny

i'm conflicted

kinda don't feel like i can vote you

you stopped using the shift key after i said that also ://

pedit oh posts

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Spoiler: Why Firebringer is Hard to Read

This is just my personal reason on why I am hard to read, I don't think you should let this shape how you read me this game, its just something i want to talk about because like i think its very introspective and insightful into how i operate.

I am a "In the moment" player, through and through.
None of my actions alone can be seen really through lens of "Ohh he was doing this" its more like a pattern of behavior that over time tells you what i am doing.

Like one minute I can be super townie.
The next minute I can be super anti town.

Its all about my mood at the time and how I am feeling.
Like I would think I am bipolar or some shit sometimes because my intentions are never really clear.
I have goals, obviously, but the way I go about achieving them seems completely backwards at times and nonsensical.

Sometimes I do something for the lols.
Sometimes I do something that I think furthers my win condition
Sometimes I just don't know what the fuck I am doing.

My go to strategy though in any game though is usually to make it up as I go along.
I don't plan that well, I have an idea of where I want to be and what I want to go, but I never know how I will get there till I get there.

Theres no "Okay I will do X, Y, Z" its more "got to do something immmmmmmmmmm claim scum!"

i am on a stupid rant and nobody cares now so I will end it here.

and i actually care and it wasn't a stupid rant. thanks for sharing. i'm similar in some ways i think. i do often have a long-term plan but the short-term stuff i just make up as i go. sometimes i end up randomly doing a bunch of shit that gets me in trouble in the long run. i don't really ever think about what i'm doing and it's really based on my mood..

pedit oh i see, interesting

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examples would be good, i like examples

only if you want to tho

I mean theres this:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70595

i called about 2-3 players mislynch bait in the game.
Hilariously I still lynched one of the players i called mislynch bait.

The stings from this game are still really recent so would prefer not to talk about it in depth.

oh that sucks :/

i hate mislynching people so much

it feels so shitty

sometimes i need a mislynch though for poe purposes. i can solve games via poe if i get the mislynches i need when i look at interactions with other slots throughout the game

but when i mislynch a slot i genuinely think is scum and it turns out to be town.. i feel utterly crap

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you should rant more tbh

it's insightful to see ppl describe their own play and such

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XDXD

i love that. great way to play. accurate description of you

i should figure out what my mafia spirit animal is lol

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if you had to guess or pick one for me what would you say

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yay!

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wow awesome! thank you you are so thoughtful!

i don't watch got but that seems pretty accurate mostly

i agree 100% on passionate and loyal, i am loyal above basically everything else

i also took two different spirit animal tests online and i'm a hummingbird and a bear apparently lol

Spoiler:

You‘re The Hummingbird

Hummingbird Spirit Animal
What It Means To Be The Hummingbird

The hummingbird spirit animal symbolizes the enjoyment of life and lightness of being. Those who have the hummingbird as a totem are invited to enjoy the sweetness of life, lift up negativity wherever it creeps in and express love more fully in their daily endeavors.

This fascinating bird is capable of the most amazing feats despite its small size, such as traveling great distances or being able to fly backwards

--
The Bear: You are the compass of love. People come to you with relationship issues, heartbreak issues, and you are perfectly fine with that. It's hard when you're away from the people that love you. You never do anything alone, a trip for one has no interest for you unless it's a trip to find love that you don't have.

To you, the best thing in the world is your husband or wife. To everyone else, they love you for your mercy and forgiveness, because your offer both easily. However, when someone makes you angry enough where it's hard to forgive them, just remember that they are human. You would want their forgiveness as well.

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apparently the second test didn't realize that you could be a lesbian

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well, or anything other than married

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LOL looooool

dabum-ch


mm also

He won't let anyone cross those who he cares about, and he will burn a town if necessary to protect them.

i played a game where you have to make a spur of the moment choice between saving your lover and letting like thousands of people die or saving all those people and letting your lover die and it took me all of 0.0000001 seconds to let them all die and save her

apparently supposedly to be the most difficult choice in the game

actually yes i did cry a lot then, so it was difficult, but only watching the repercussions, the choice itself was duh

i mean yes it's a game but still

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it's called life is strange

and the psychology argument of well it's all just unknown people so yes of course you chose to save your lover over blank masses doesn't apply bc there were many people my character loved dearly included in that, as well as my lover's family sooooooo

loyalty rooted in love is me

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but i'm very impulsive

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i think the only facet of your spirit animal that i disagree with meaningfully is arrogance. that's just something i put up for show. no one listens to you if you don't seem sure of yourself. arrogance probably comes across due to overcompensation

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Holy crap, Gin asks for a case where town faked a post restriction, and 6 minutes later you have an example from nine years ago? WTF? Looks like you had it waiting in case you needed it.

why would he have a case waiting for conf!scum? if he had a case waiting he would've used it yesterday?

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The obvious conclusion is that Pine was scum who didn't see mod's statement.

no mention of that being an obvious conclusion in your iso. didn't call him scum in 226, asked for opinions in 264, said you're "not crazy about" him in 425, said it's probably fake in 426, complained about no wagon in 432, considers whether he sucks at scum in 449, i don't see anything else. nowhere do you even seem convinced that he is scum, much less have the opinion that pine being scum was an obvious conclusion.

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why would he have a case waiting for conf!scum?

Because he's scum too. Thought the implication was obvious.

if he had a case waiting he would've used it yesterday?

It wasn't needed yesterday. People bought the excuses made for Pine.

if he's scum it makes no sense to defend pine's actions as town after he's already flipped scum..?

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my dude

it makes no sense to call fire scum bc he seems to have a case waiting for pine

you're assuming that fire is scum and had a case waiting to show people about how pine could be town despite the restriction but didn't use it yesterday bc he was afraid that pine was going to get vigged n1, so he waited to use it after pine had already flipped.

pedit scummy, yes, you established that, but nowhere do you say the obvious conclusion is that he's scum. if you'd made that conclusion day 1 and are town i should that you would've pushed his wagon hard as fuck rather than just weakly pushing it and complaining about it not getting traction

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i am baffled that we are talking about how obvious it was or wasn't that pine was scum

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i don't see why

noting implosion wholly ignoring pine early d1 fwiw

why are you confused fire

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i mean if you're saying that we compare ppl's stances to how obvious it was yes

but we're colored by conf!bias knowing that pine is scum

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gin does pine have a tendency to call tvts tvs?

pedit yea exactly

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i am baffled that we are talking about how obvious it was or wasn't that pine was scum

When someone flips red, looking at who pushed them, who defended them, who ignored them...that's pretty standard play.

not rly what i was saying but dw

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lol 278

VOTE: implosion

i wanna lynch this

pedit FUCKING LET ME POST HOLYGODDAMN

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i agree with fire fwiw, pers pushing this the way he is makes no sense from scum imo

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I suck at this game.

stop saying this please. you don't, it isn't true

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implosion is scum

join the wagon and feel better

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bc i don't like the pine associatives he does nothing rly but tr ppl a bunch?

pedit cuz he hasn't mentioned pine once and then randomly votes him

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like if implosion is scum then last scum is 100% in here {fire, pieg, twoface, alz, wheme, massive} (614)

and that townpool makes no sense btw

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nancy I've explained how to dissect his associatives >_>

yep and desp and wheme are both locktown. pine not bussing doesn't equate to none of his scumbuds ever voting him or pushing him

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gin does pine have a tendency to call tvts tvs?

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scum don't have daychat?

implosion moved vote soon after and did nothing with it while it was there

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i'm not shitposting with you anymore fire

i think i pissed dead!pine off enough as is

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sorry

i mean i could be conf!biasing gin but i lost my tr on implosion when i re-reasoned out my reads on the flip today and i don't see any reason to like the slot anyway, this just tips the scales for me

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lol

get me the fuck out of your trs then

holy shit

VOTE: aj

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Pers is making a case on me lmaoooo

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this push on nos is pretty blatantly scum motivated and the only thing that people are pushing him for is playing transparently clunkily which is not a thing that scum!nos does?

my lynchpool is aj, gin, imp

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he's truly a faffer and i have no love towards momo. but do you think that two scumfucks jump on the same ml quickly like that with darklyn?

gin is where he is because i don't like his interactions with aj. aj's casing posts just look to me like textbook good scumposting and gin handing out a tr on alz slot after 1 such post reeks

gin's analysis of massive is also lazy. like yes his jump on the darklyn wagon wasn't great but this all feels like surface level scummy stuff same as what he cased up on darklyn

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momo isn't town for me btw, he's just not in my scumpool

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not that i know of, i love vca but basically everyone just shits on it

you're already cool tho!

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tb's scumplay is the very picture of laziness, yes

oh, uhhhh

i don't actually remember that. i was sring him for just being a fucking scummy motherfucker through and through

like i guess i can sheep you if i can't get any of the wagons i want going and probably won't bc i haven't the carelevels for this game?

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anyway why are you being so nice to me *peer*

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