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I've been in two games with Mr. CKD. He was townie, I was scum, I got him lynched! Haha! Um, also, Peers, why can the SK kill not be as well informed as the Mafia kill? Perhaps the SK knew how good of a player Timmytuttut is or was. Never played with him before. But I don't see how the scum kill is any more informed than the SK kill, except for the fact that there are four scum.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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I don't care that he is voting me. A random vote is all well and good. But he can't seem to get his facts straight. First he says it's a random vote. Then he says it's not, in the same post. Then he says it was a random vote again, and then once more he says he had a reason behind it. So he's either lying or confusing his story.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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vote:Shteven
Take a look at his first line. Okay, it's the second line, but I don't count agreed as a line.
He says it's likely Jesse was doctor protected, he didn't say that the scum thought that Jesse was doctor protected. This means he was thinking about Jesse being protected. This makes me think he is scum who made what I believe is called a Freudian slip.Shteven wrote:Agreed. I'd say it's most likely that he was doctor protected, and that mafia chose other targets instead of taking the chance on there being a doctor protection.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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My point, Shteven, is that you had no reason to be thinking about it. It's possible for a townie to think it, but why would you? It doesn't do us any good to think about, therefore why bother? However, for scum, thinking about whether the cop will be protected is high on the priority list.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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Gracious people, I responded to this already... you just aren't reading!
I already said, I was more suspicious of the way he worded it, not the fact that he was thinking it. I didn't really explain it in my first post, but oh well. My mistake.[/quote]SomeStrangeFlea wrote: When it boils down to it, you're suspecting Shteven for thinking outside your box, which is quite sucky, TBH.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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Okay... I think I found a better way to explain it. For instance, would a townie have to deliberate about whether or not the cop is going to be protected? No, we have no reason to, whether we think about it or not has no bearing on whether the cop survives the night.
For a scum, he has to sit and think and mull over the fact that there is probably a doctor, so should he take the chance and try to kill the doc, or should he just kill someone else.
But it was the wording that tipped me off to this fact. He doesn't say the mafia thought that he would be doctor protected, he just said, it's probable that he would have been, or something along those lines. So I took that to mean that he was deliberating about whether or not the cop was going to be protected enough, deliberating enough to post that fact.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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I agree that a particular scumtell, or even town tell, cannot be placed on everyone. Take vollkan for instance. His large posts, contentful, appear pro-town. But he also does them when he is scum. I want to wait for a recent vote count before I vote, mostly because I don't have time to check myself. (I'm lazy and busy, sue me!)I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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Just expressing my opinion, Shteven. That way, when people ask what it was, I can go back and point to a specific spot and say, Look there it is! Instead of saying "Well, judging from how I worded this post, I felt XXX." Much more concrete, more helpful to the town.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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Well, my first game was with vollkan here on MS. I was town, he was scum. He did exactly what he is doing now: long posts, responding to everything thrown at him with long posts. He was scum in that game and I knew it, but no one else believed me. And I can't help feeling that this is exactly how he acted that first game... and I know I said it was how he plays everytime... but something just seems different. But yes, it was vollkan I was considering putting my vote on. I believe my vote could do better on someone other than Shteven.Justin Playfair wrote:All right, so you have warned us twice that Vollkan may be scum however town he may seem. Do you have any reasons for suspecting Vollkan beyond his usually seeming town that would warrant two warnings about him in the first nine pages?
Well, I was saying that we don't necessarily need to concentrate on him at the moment. We keep him as a possibility in the back of our minds, only as a possibility, because I don't really think he is scum, but there is a slight chance, and then if we are really stuck, we can go back and investigate him more thoroughly.Justin Playfair wrote:If you could please explain both how saying that Jesse might be scum or he might not but we can find out later is “concrete”, and how it is “helpful to town”. I understand how it might later be useful to you.
Well, I don't like it when people just ask me questions without providing reasons. It can provide false links between persons that the scum might manipulate to get a townie lynched. So I don't like it when I am just asked a question without a reason or case on it.Justin Playfair wrote:While it is perfectly appropriate to ask the question you are asking in return, it would also have been appropriate to answer Farside22’s question. In this case it actually would provide something “Much more concrete, more helpful to the town”.
And now that she has posted, I will respond. I haven't pushed it because I haven't seen him around here very much, and I hate it when I keep asking and asking someone who isn't there to provide an answer. So I just dropped it. Saved it for a later date.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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That is idiotic Rigel. The only reason Wesaq isn't here is because he chooses not to be or because he cannot. My not putting pressure on him does not make him more inclined to lurk. You are grasping at straws and I believe you were expecting more people to start ganging up on me, so you seized the first opportunity you could find to get on board and be suspcious of me.unvote, vote:RigelI put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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Okay, I'm sorry I've been an ass up til now. I really don't mean to, sometimes I just get carried away, and I've been sick for the past week, so I've just kinda been blah. Now, if someone wants to attack me, I will defend myself in a much calmer manner, one that benefits the town more than just sarcasm.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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I wouldn't just ignore a question if it were of major concern to me, that would be a stupid scum mistake. Basically I wanted to find out if I had been right in that first game, so I looked up vollkan on wiki, and found out that he got his nickname "Interrogator" because he still made long posts grilling his opponents. And it had certainly seemed town back then as well.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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That was still when I was being a pretentious dick. I wasn't actually playing as JDodge, I was just being a sarcastic prick at that moment.
@vollkan: I am composing a list of comparisons between this game and our last one, and I will search for relevant information in other finished games. Just so you don't think I am skimping out on you.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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I'm actually having a little more trouble than I originally thought I would in coming up with a solid comparison. I thought that by perusing your games I would find some kind of difference. I've got to hand it to you, vollkan, your play in most of your games is similar all around. However, I am very much a feel player, and perhaps, in viewing it again, I had more of the same feel of the posts in this game and the first. Which, though I regard feel and tone of posts important, it is not enough for a vote.
And, though I wish I were more, I am but a simple townie. No powers at all.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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Well, LaptopGun's post strikes me as slightly suspicious. He says he should just hammer me and end the day, but he says in the same sentence that he believes me to be town. So he would hammer a person he thought was town. Probably gonna piss him off with this and he'll hammer then, but there you go. I find it suspicious, and, as Phate put it, "setting it up" for when I am revealed to be townie.I put the "laughter" in manslaughter.- kabenon007
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