Mini Normal 1893 - I Keep Modding Minis Ending in 3 -endgame

[Alisae]

Hey guys I came here to hunt scum not shitpost
VOTE: Garrybote
the bote dies.

[Alisae]

stawp that meme is terrible ;~;

[Alisae]

yeah this table is going to be enjoyable.

[Alisae]

OMGUS!
VOTE: projectmatt
I don't have the real OG frog with me but it's nice to be playing with you again.

[Alisae]

Or are you

[Alisae]

~Oh, oh, oh,
Oh, here we go
Walkin', Talkin' like you know
I want your Pretty Little Psycho~

[Alisae]

Impo why did you like it?

[Alisae]

Oh? What's making you feel as if you need to reconsider? @Impo

Why? @Darklyn

[Alisae]

@Impo so who's the scum voting you besides Trans?

[Alisae]

@Dark what about that feeling seems scummy?
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

50 - Why? @Dark
51 - Why? @Dunn
52 - A. Don't like the shades of oppertunism being shown here. B. VOTE: Impo 38 and 42 seem like you're talking to someone you think is town. Why the sudden change?
54 - Why is he scum again? Educate me.
-sees a bunch of matt votes that I don't really understand-
79 - I don't read them as either alignment personally.

[Alisae]

I'm a survivor now Trans and how happy are you that I'm town on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest?

[Alisae]

A. Pretty much. Hmm, how does trying to read the room to lynch town further a scum's wincon. hmmmmmmmm, I wonder...
B. I thought you said that Dark could be scum ;~; But on second thought I just remembered that only 2 people did vote you and I thought 3 did, so I double checked. My baaaad.
C. Kaaaaay.

BTW who do you townread real quickly if anyone.

[Alisae]

projectmatt more like projectrena more like projectpsycho eeeeeeeey
UNVOTE:
Yeah this is most likely town.

[Alisae]

This as in Impo

[Alisae]

I don't got one as of yet tbh.
hold on
/me isos
Don't really understand what he saw in 56?
Trans isn't really someone I can get a read on within the first 5 pages.

[Alisae]

Projectmatt push is garbage

Why?

[Alisae]

Gerry is town maybe

Why?

[Alisae]

no he can fake his posting style as scum I'm pretty sure.
He hasn't really done anything AI yet to my knowledge.
Don't like your self-consciousness. Any reason for that?

[Alisae]

i think alisae's town

You're wrong there

You're wrong there

[Alisae]

no he can fake his posting style as scum I'm pretty sure.
He hasn't really done anything AI yet to my knowledge.

As best I can tell, almost nobody has done anything that's worth hanging reads off of. I am watching Impo with interest, but don't really have a bead on her alignment as yet. The activity is nice though.

Don't like your self-consciousness. Any reason for that?

Self-consciousness? I dunno man

A. Fair I guess.
B.

Plus it seems like there's a bunch of experienced folks here so I'm probably also liable to get owned by making too many assumptions.

This is what being self-conscious looks like.

[Alisae]

no he can fake his posting style as scum I'm pretty sure.

So what would you be looking for in a scum Gerry then?

I would rather not out how I read Garrybote.

[Alisae]

go on

he received a scum role pm

You're wrong there

[Alisae]

In all seriousness Bae, why?

[Alisae]

Jae, are you actually going to give me a reason other then I didn't drop your super secret super special awesome towntell you have on me or are you just going to sit here saying "Ali is scum."

[Alisae]

lol it's not your town game, has nothing to do with the towntell. Sorry dunno what to tell ya, there was too much posturing going on and buddy attempts, and the defense of pjm was cute

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
If this is a really shitty joke you should take it back in your next post.

[Alisae]

Jae, are you actually going to give me a reason other then I didn't drop your super secret super special awesome towntell you have on me or are you just going to sit here saying "Ali is scum."

Didn't you just say you wanted to sandbag tells yourself? Howcome everyone else has to have a reason.

He doesn't have to say what the tell is.

[Alisae]

juri tell me in 10 words or less why you're scum

Received a scum role PM. I'm the roleblocker. VOTE: Juri

I believe it.
VOTE: Juri

[Alisae]

oh shit

jaereed is RIGHT

VOTE: Alisae

lol it's not your town game, has nothing to do with the towntell. Sorry dunno what to tell ya, there was too much posturing going on and buddy attempts, and the defense of pjm was cute

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
If this is a really shitty joke you should take it back in your next post.

discredit

juri tell me in 10 words or less why you're scum

Received a scum role PM. I'm the roleblocker. VOTE: Juri

I believe it.
VOTE: Juri

opportunism

opportunism

VOTE: dunnstral

opportunism

[Alisae]

Ring ring!
Pot: Hello.
Kettle: Who is this?
Pot: Hi Kettle, it's me Pot!
Kettle: Well hello Pot! How can I help you?
Pot: I just wanted to let you know you're black.
Kettle: Well I just wanted to let you know you're scum.
VOTE: Transcend

[Alisae]

Impo nice avi.

[Alisae]

Impo nice avi.

Nice avi alisae

Why thank you.

[Alisae]

His current one is fine but doesn't really fit his streak of anime girl gifs and I'm looking forward to what he has in store next

[Alisae]

nah I'm kiddin I'm probs gonna change it back to luluco eventually or yoshino. The yoshino avi was adorbs.

[Alisae]

good choice

????

No, that's what mine was-

So this one isn't?

[Alisae]

Still waiting for BaeReed to be like "LOL IT'S JUST A JOKE GUYZ"

[Alisae]

last time dunnstral faked a post restriction he was

M

A

F

I

A

hahahaha my vote isn't leaving you.

[Alisae]

So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.

[Alisae]

Jae and Trans can both be scum.

[Alisae]

Jae and Trans can both be scum.

you think 2/3 (assuming 3 mafia) mafia are gonna target you aka someone that's fairly hard to lynch as town?

You seriously think I'm hard to lynch when I'm town...
I'ma take that as a compliment?
I dunno how to treat this...

[Alisae]

u wanna be trash tier that's ur problem

...??

Jaereed you seem to be quite on edge

It's because he rolled scum this game and is trying to push me because he thinks it's cute and adorable.

[Alisae]

So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.

u wanna be trash tier that's ur problem

...??

Jaereed you seem to be quite on edge

It's because he rolled scum this game and is trying to push me because he thinks it's cute and adorable.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah notice how Jae hasn't voted me yet?
It's because he knows I'll flip town and he doesn't want to be on the wagon when it flips

[Alisae]

alisae's the one that threatened to change their icon to one of yours, not me

I WAS JOKING

[Alisae]

Triv will you be sticking around

[Alisae]

Triv will you be sticking around

I will be, depending on what you mean by that

aaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww boy

[Alisae]

Triv do you TR me?
I thought that quesiton I asked you sounded towny.

[Alisae]

Triv do you TR me?
I thought that quesiton I asked you sounded towny.

I have no idea what you are ut this post makes me feel you are scum.
Also crash I gauge scumminess on whether people change their ideals in their own favor for something.

Why? I mean, I'm sad my man Trivium doesn't TR me but why?

[Alisae]

Triv do you TR me?
I thought that quesiton I asked you sounded towny.

I have no idea what you are ut this post makes me feel you are scum.
Also crash I gauge scumminess on whether people change their ideals in their own favor for something.

Why? I mean, I'm sad my man Trivium doesn't TR me but why?

Alisae talk to someone else. I'd like to watch. Ask a question or something idk

Am I town yet?

[Alisae]

Triv on a scale of 1-10, how happy will you be when you come to the conclusion that I'm town?

[Alisae]

Sure!
A. Why aren't you voting me?
B. Why are they scummy.

[Alisae]

Triv stawp ignoring me

[Alisae]

A. Why?
B. Your pre-flip associations are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

[Alisae]

Alisae, I'm sorry to break the news with you, but you're scum. Same with transcend. Imp is town. Jae is town. Juri is town. Matt is scum.

Alisae, I'm sorry to break the news with you, but you're scum.

you're scum.

you're scum.

you're scum.

[Alisae]

Jae/Trivium/?
VOTE: Trivium

[Alisae]

Jae is also a viable wagon.
Maaaaaaaybe Juri.

[Alisae]

Jae/Trivium/?
VOTE: Trivium

Your preflip associations are bad.

Not really associating you two.

[Alisae]

In all seriousness, you have one more post to suddenly townread me.

[Alisae]

That's not what suddenly townreading me looks like.
ok now you're answering why scum!Me would try to buddy you as blatantly as I did.

[Alisae]

Alisae why am I not in your scum list anymore? I've done nothing that could possibly change your opinion of my alignment from the time you fosed me til now.

Scum!Trans will reveal itself to me eventually.
Now is not the time nor the place my friend.
*woosh*

[Alisae]

That's not what suddenly townreading me looks like.
ok now you're answering why scum!Me would try to buddy you as blatantly as I did.

Because that's what scum do, they try to be super blatant about buddying people. I'm not getting into WIFOM with you alisae, I'm saying you're scum because you're doing things scum do, in my not very humble opinion.

naaaaaaaaah dude.
You're not getting away with this shit.
How about you look at things at a not surface level way and PROVIDE ME WITH YOUR TOP TIER ANALYSIS.

[Alisae]

Also scum alisae tries to screw with me rather than actually interacting with other people meaningfully.

You haven't even played with scum me...
Have you even read Spyro or Hogwarts?
I can provide links.
How am I even screwing you over? This is so baseless lmao.

[Alisae]

B. Your pre-flip associations are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

bad in what way? scummy? bad play? why?

Bad play tbh I don't think he's scummy right now.

[Alisae]

TRIVIUM IS IGNORING ME AGAIN -_-

[Alisae]

being read town doesn't make you a good player lol

Read beyond this surface level shit.
It'll help you get back into the grove.

[Alisae]

matt do you want a cookie?

[Alisae]

Dude, I would LOVE a cookie

VOTE: Matt

[Alisae]

BaeReed is in a tunnel and tbh I don't really care, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they voted me over matt and they had a matt read just do distance things. BaeReed isn't even interested in pushing me, and has pratically ignored everything directed at them all game. This is scum!BaeReed. He's not even argueing against that.
matt, in all seriousness I'm done with this buddying shit and this "Let's proxy our vote behind Alisae" shit got old really quickly.
Trivium's read is fake and bullshit. He's only doing surface level work because he knows if he tries to analyze and go deeper he'll actually realize his read is bullshit.

[Alisae]

JR on a scale of 1-10 how much do you scumread Alisae?

I'm getting towny feels from him at the moment

10

Alisae also stopped pretending to try to gamesolve since I called him out. He's trying to minimize the damage.

Yeah you haven't been reading anything at all.

[Alisae]

Compare how BaeReed is interacting with me this game as to when he interacted with me in MariaR's 9:12
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69960

"Hi, look at me, I'm a towny interacting with you" ----- MariaR's 9:12
"I'm not even going to talk to you." - Mini Normal 1893 - I Keep Modding Minis Ending in 3

[Alisae]

Also scum alisae tries to screw with me rather than actually interacting with other people meaningfully.

You haven't even played with scum me...
Have you even read Spyro or Hogwarts?
I can provide links.
How am I even screwing you over? This is so baseless lmao.

Triv you still need to talk to me about this.

[Alisae]

matt, in all seriousness I'm done with this buddying shit and this "Let's proxy our vote behind Alisae" shit got old really quickly.

Uh what the hell are you talking about?

Alise still leans town but they became mildly worse in the last few pages. I'm really cynical of the push on him, and I don't see it.

This SCREAMS buddying to me.

[Alisae]

matt, in all seriousness I'm done with this buddying shit and this "Let's proxy our vote behind Alisae" shit got old really quickly.

Also seriously what the fuck is this? Are you under the impression I've been camping my vote behind your or something?

So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.

Later.

I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game

207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjm

hahahaahahhaahhahaahahahaha

vote: jaereed

And then

Jae/Trivium/?
VOTE: Trivium

After this:

Ugh.

Vote: Trivium

[Alisae]

Again, that post was really disingenuous, and it concerns me.

What if I voted you just to fish for reactions.
VOTE: Trivium
Because I really like your tone and Triv + Jae are being scummy again.

[Alisae]

Matt what do you make of how Jae and Trivium responded to said explaination on why I faked an SR on you?

[Alisae]

Spoiler: :Posts I am refering too.

Actually I think I see what you mean

matt, in all seriousness I'm done with this buddying shit and this "Let's proxy our vote behind Alisae" shit got old really quickly.

Also seriously what the fuck is this? Are you under the impression I've been camping my vote behind your or something?

So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.

Later.

I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game

207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjm

hahahaahahhaahhahaahahahaha

vote: jaereed

And then

Jae/Trivium/?
VOTE: Trivium

After this:

Ugh.

Vote: Trivium

hm..
UNVOTE:

Come on Jae that post was grasping at straws

matt, in all seriousness I'm done with this buddying shit and this "Let's proxy our vote behind Alisae" shit got old really quickly.

Also seriously what the fuck is this? Are you under the impression I've been camping my vote behind your or something?

So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.

Later.

I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game

207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjm

hahahaahahhaahhahaahahahaha

vote: jaereed

And then

Jae/Trivium/?
VOTE: Trivium

After this:

Ugh.

Vote: Trivium

hm..
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

stage

Like this would be a townpost if what followed never happened.

[Alisae]

Yeah that's concerning.
Like I feel like I was silently strongarmed into voting you by Jae and that's concerning to me.

[Alisae]

oh yeah btw you did well here have a real cookie.
/me gives projectmatt a chocolate chip cookie.

[Alisae]

Like I feel like I was silently strongarmed into voting you by Jae and that's concerning to me.

what.

JaeReed's push was "Alisae is not hunting matt and I can soul read him."
Trivium's was "I am faking a SR with really surface level shit."
Notice how they both responded when I "pushed" pjm.
Jae's unvote said "Hmm, so they are aware that this is happening" but tbh they're still scum because they never decided to interact with me.
Trivium was at first like "STAGE! FAKE!" and then he was like "Wait, I am seeing things now" or something like that and it's scummy. Nothing about this post sequence screams natural.

[Alisae]

Did someone ask me a question?

[Alisae]

Like I feel like I was silently strongarmed into voting you by Jae and that's concerning to me.

what.

JaeReed's push was "Alisae is not hunting matt and I can soul read him."
Trivium's was "I am faking a SR with really surface level shit."
Notice how they both responded when I "pushed" pjm.
Jae's unvote said "Hmm, so they are aware that this is happening" but tbh they're still scum because they never decided to interact with me.
Trivium was at first like "STAGE! FAKE!" and then he was like "Wait, I am seeing things now" or something like that and it's scummy. Nothing about this post sequence screams natural.

You're misconstruing what I said and blatantly putting things in the wrong order/about different things. I said wait I'm seeing things now as a response to my own "grasping at straws" statement, I saw why he unvoted and understood after I made the grasping post, you're taking my words and dumping them.

First you said it was staged then you understood what Jae was saying this makes no sense and is most likely faked.

[Alisae]

If my townflip will get scum!Triv and scum!Jae lynched then I will gladly take a lynch.

[Alisae]

Triv's read on me is really surface level and shallow and he isn't making an attempt to look deeper because he knows his read on me is fake. Read 537

[Alisae]

Alisae if you're town I really need you to answer me.

NO!
You do NOT get to say this.
Not after YOU ignore me.
You do NOT get to say this.
idc what your read is on me.
You do NOT get to treat me like I do not exist.
And then say THIS!

I have made posts talking about you.
And you never interacted with me.
Until you asked THIS.
And when you did ask this.
You're just trying to be manipulative.
So no.
You do not get an answer to your question.

[Alisae]

If you're town your emotions are going to cause one of us to have to be lynched today if you keep this up.

You're scum so.......

[Alisae]

Trivium could be scum but the correct play here is to lynch in {Aslan, Jae}.

Even tho you SR me you're welcome to my masonry with matt.

[Alisae]

Either read my posts then understand I should be fucking conftown to you and back off this bullshit, or have fun eating rope.

Fake frustration.

[Alisae]

@Alisae I really need you to answer that question, please. I know you're upset at me if you're town but really please just give me the benefit of the doubt here and answer on that. Depending on the answer I may need a complete reread and I'll explain everything you want to know when I do so.

Oh come on!
Now it just feels like you're just trying to appease me to answering your manipulative question.
Hell, the fact you think I wouldn't be upset if I was scum is concerning as well.

[Alisae]

Fine.
My concern was genuine with matt.
However matt's tone when talking to me about said concerns made me think he was town.
His response to my vote even sounded towny to me.
Your response to said concern I still can't figure out.
Trivium's response is #Caughtscum

pedit: I still want that apology.

[Alisae]

Fine. I'm sorry if I upset you, that was never my intention, I don't deliberately try to do that and as town I know I can end up being an ass with my scumhunting. I'm sorry.

Now I can out my thoughts.
Genuine paranoia.
As scum I can't see you following matt's voting patterns that closely to pick up on that, which even I thought was just you bullshitting when you wrote about it until that post I quoted when I unvoted.
There IS the caveat that it could be you paying more attention to a scum buddy's voting habits and trying to distance because you thought you were going down, but that was a really nuanced read from you and was proof of you analyzing the game at a higher level than I had been seeing. Too nuanced for me to think it was a distancing tactic.

Thanks I felt genuinely hurt and what is this posturing bullshit?

[Alisae]

Jae I thought you were like "Guys I can soulread this slot, sheep me"
>Sheeps arrive
>"Hahaha I was just joking I was trying to see who would follow me on that.
Mostly because you didn't vote me and your post of "I'm waiting for a VC" I thought sorta confirmed this feeling.
Hence why I thought it was a joke.

[Alisae]

Lol. I'd say Jae was scum here for that post but I think they somehow aren't.

VOTE: Trivium

Trivium could be scum but the correct play here is to lynch in {Aslan, Jae}.

Oh no!!!!!!!1010!!!!!!!!!!!! My reads changed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oneone1

Why does this seem just so...fake to me...

[Alisae]

Jae I thought you were like "Guys I can soulread this slot, sheep me"
>Sheeps arrive
>"Hahaha I was just joking I was trying to see who would follow me on that.
Mostly because you didn't vote me and your post of "I'm waiting for a VC" I thought sorta confirmed this feeling.
Hence why I thought it was a joke.

No I don't fake scumreads. It's a shit thing to do as town because it makes it harder to ever gain credibility and be believed in your reads.

You didn't communicate that well enough to me you should have voted me right away so you got that across to me better if you're town.

[Alisae]

Jae/Trivium/?
VOTE: Trivium

Your preflip associations are bad.

If he's not scum why didn't he say "Your scumreads are bad"??!!?!?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Yeaaaaaaah, I never really said my Trivium read was changing.
dunno why you assumed that it was unless you're not talking to me.

[Alisae]

I don't do that when we hadn't even had a vc once. You could have had votes on you from RVS or something which would result in a hammer.

A. There's a thing called COUNTING!
B. Why are you worried about this?

[Alisae]

SEMANTICS!

[Alisae]

Jae is scumreading me proving that they can't read their own gf lol

Wait. This is offical?
I feel left out.

[Alisae]

MASTINA!

[Alisae]

btw if anyone is bussing tell me I wanna sheep the bussers.

[Alisae]

I scumhunt by using my 1-shot novice desperado on the rest of the other 12 players.

[Alisae]

pjm keep reading I'm wary of nancy now.

[Alisae]

Would Nancy say that as scum?

Wellllllll...
In reality
From my perspective and using
Open minded thinking
My brain thinks this is irrelevant.

[Alisae]

Guyz would it be mean if I decided to rickroll everyone in the game?

[Alisae]

Wait people are pushing Crash?
Why?

[Alisae]

Why aren't people willing to do the things to trivium yet?

[Alisae]

Impo why not trip???? ;~;

[Alisae]

did I say trump? Fuck mobile man.
Triv

[Alisae]

but if you want the real answer, it's because his icon is a giant space turtle.

stop

[Alisae]

Triv is fake why am I the only one that understands this matt please help me.

[Alisae]

Pjm i concur.

[Alisae]

nancy it's just scum.

[Alisae]

And again, alisae has been using my existence as an excuse to talk about practically nothing else. It's like lurking but worse because alisae thinks it makes him look like he's doing something.

This reads as:

I have to desperately make an attempt to throw more and more shade because Alisae is right and I don't even want to make an attempt to re-evaluate my fake scumread.

[Alisae]

Can someone explain to me how Trivium's scumread differs from mine? Because that's what I don't get, people are scumreading Trivium for the same things I was thinking?

He went from
>That was staged.
>Alisae is grasping at straws.
>Oh I see what you're getting at

In the most unnatural way.

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

So? I don't do natural, I do what I like. Screw off.

The tone here is telling me that I'm just being unreasonable and stubborn here.

[Alisae]

aka I read that as genuine.

[Alisae]

I still want you to stop reading my posts at surface level.
This isn't the newbie queue.

[Alisae]

I still want you to stop reading my posts at surface level.
This isn't the newbie queue.

Taking things 'surface level' is how I choose to understand this game. Mafia will make normal mistakes eventually, and I will see it. The worst thing I could do would be to get distracted by layers of over complex analysis: how many layers should I go? What constitutes WIFOM? Etcetera. There is no answer to any of these questions, not really a best answer anyways. So I'll stick to my guns, thank you very much.

No I mean you're not looking for motivations behind posts. You're looking for what people are trying to accomplish when they write a post. You're not making attempts to read tone.
This is the shit I'm refering to. I don't care about this complex analysis to the point where it becomes WIFOM. I'm not looking for you to try to decipher WIFOM. If anything complex analysis violates Occam's razor and produces silly theories.

[Alisae]

Like with my post sequence of me telling you that I'm town conversation I had with you.
Am I scum trying to buddy you in the most obvious way ever? If so, what am I trying to accomplish with that? If I'm scum, why do I think that will work? Why would I even try to bring a lot of attention to myself while doing that?

[Alisae]

RC STRIKES AGAIN

[Alisae]

RC STAAAAAWP

[Alisae]

I am about to be cunningly manipulated

[Alisae]

I'm ready plz be gentle -_-

[Alisae]

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?

[Alisae]

Replace out