Mini Normal 1893 - I Keep Modding Minis Ending in 3 -endgame

[Impoetic]

I throw games and then get mortified when I lose, hi!!!!!

[Impoetic]

that wouldn't be an 'oh no' and you know it

VOTE: projectmatt

[Impoetic]

I'm not scum though??????????

[Impoetic]

Alisae was my tr ;-;

[Impoetic]

how do you fail to reconsider when you consistently scumread me and I consistently flip town?

predit: I liked alisae's daystart. Why did you SR them?

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That I wanted to know why you sred them was supposed to be the implication of my statement and also seems like it should have been your initial thought when having someone disagree with the read, maybe.

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VOTE: Impoetic

of all the votes to sheep

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Impo why did you like it?

your tone was towny and your mind was on hunting scum relative to the others. I'm reconsidering now, but I don't think you're the scummiest here.

[Impoetic]

VOTE: transcend

I'll give you an OMGUS vote and think you're actually scum

edit: I'm town and you're sheeping scum

[Impoetic]

transcend why do you think I'm mafia? Why don't you question darklyn sheeping you? if you're town you should be thinking that you sr me all the time and if you're trying to liability lynch me then that's just really upsetting but I'd like to know

[Impoetic]

Oh? What's making you feel as if you need to reconsider? @Impo

Why? @Darklyn

just the fact that I thought the read was weak and other people disagree with me which makes me instinctively feel like I might have been stupid

@Impo so who's the scum voting you besides Trans?

I never implied there was more than one scum and if I had it would have to be darklyn because as far as I know there are only two people voting me.

She's seems too nervous for page 2 tbh

It's my first time playing in a while and I want to tryhard, but also I'm not really nervous, just a little annoyed.

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@Impoetic, who would you consider to be the scummiest here?

I wanted to get Alisae's reaction because I thought one of their opening posts was tonally kind of strange. I might have a light TR on them now.

why do you have a light tr on them? in your words.

[Impoetic]

pjm you asked me my top scumread after i voted transcend

I think he's scum again

[Impoetic]

and if I didn't I couldn't be expected to have a top scumread on page 3

[Impoetic]

it's the fact that he's voting me + his energy + his ignoring someone else and it reminds me of his scumplay every other game. If he's town it's because I forgot how he acted as town and have only played with him when he's scum in the last like decade. I guess I could metadive, but later.

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VOTE: projectmatt

56 is pure manipulation

can you please explain

[Impoetic]

faulty meta if it's meta since I don't play with him that much. It was basically tone though.

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VOTE: alisae

reason: has 2 votes

you lucked out jessica

pedit: pjm has two votes too but scumfuck impoetic just voted him jajaja

hello darklyn we're gonna be GOOD FRIENDS this game

these two posts

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and the fact that I think unless he's just trying to get a player out that he dislikes playing with, there's no reason for him to be so steadfast knowing he would misread me all the time when we played

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VOTE: projectmatt

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50
52 - A. Don't like the shades of oppertunism being shown here. B. VOTE: Impo 38 and 42 seem like you're talking to someone you think is town. Why the sudden change?

Opportunist because I'm openly sheeping reads at daystart? How does that further scum's wincon?

I never once SR'd darklyn. Why do you keep implying I sr darklyn? Most people in this game are town, of course I'm going to give people the benefit of the doubt. But also, I thought transcend was scummier at the time and didn't think both the people voting me at once would likely be scum together.

54 - Why is he scum again? Educate me.

I gave my reasons in #59, #64, and #65

-sees a bunch of matt votes that I don't really understand-

matt seems to have a lot of reads and do little with them just from a superficial pov, but also tone, but also I seem to SR him in forum mafia (unlike in the version we usually play) so I might switch if I see a better vote.

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My reads have been almost exact opposite transcend's except the projectmatt read so far. like, timing at all. i don't know what to make of it or if it means anything at all

[Impoetic]

VOTE: unvote

[Impoetic]

My reads have been almost exact opposite transcend's except the projectmatt read so far. like, timing at all. i don't know what to make of it or if it means anything at all

it probably means my reads are bad or he's scum or both, most likely the first or the last

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A. Pretty much. Hmm, how does trying to read the room to lynch town further a scum's wincon. hmmmmmmmm, I wonder...

obviously the current SRs aren't going to continue and obviously if mafia actively seeks to further scum's wincon they have no obligation to be outward about it except for wifom purposes which doesn't really make sense there -- not to say you should townread me for it, but it doesn't make sense except on a really superficial level to say "this person started doubting themselves when others did and announced it, which reeks of opportunism and thus is a scumtell" this early in the game. I announced it because I was being honest in my answer because I'm naive and expect honesty to work when i'm town, and the honest truth is I doubt myself when others question me on reads that shallow, and I also don't think it's really a bad thing there although it is in other times.

I also started scumleaning you (where I was nullreading you before) like a few posts before this one which is what spurred the comment about having reads almost exactly opposite to transcend's. My reads are shaping up to be all over the place again.

BTW who do you townread real quickly if anyone.

i actually kind of townlean dark right now but I can't really explain it. I think that's kind of it because everyone else here really intimidates me and I can't be confident in reads on them or you. :T

[Impoetic]

matt seems to have a lot of reads and do little with them just from a superficial pov.

What, realistically, do you think I should be doing with my reads that I haven't? This seems like a superficial read or maybe just a poor articulation.

poor articulation is my middle name but it's more an overall feeling and I don't know how to explain it any better in that case. Maybe it's a superficial read.

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Impoetic, are you gonna answer my question in #96?

Also, what spurred your scumlean on Alisae?

at the time I thought his questions didn't seem to be particularly genuine and one other thing I changed my mind about

if I were confident I would vote it, but I need to reset my reads now

[Impoetic]

As in, so far I feel like I'm just gonna be in limbo all game again, and I need to reevaluate all the thoughts I've had so far or just ignore them and start over because I'm hoping that'll help me stick to things, like pjm advised a while ago

otherwise I'm just a useless piece of discolored insect diarrhea.

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SOMEHOW I FORGOT USAGICHAN WAS IN THIS GAME

I STALKED THE /INS AND SAW HER BUT I FORGOT SHE WAS IN THIS GAME STILL

idk if you know I'm elephantasm bc my main used to be impoetic on EM but then schutzekatze reversed it and tyler stole the old one

OK so

yes, i am sure. they bw your vote for no reason.

Darklyn is either trolling the whole game so far or mafia. that's my only read so far

he's relaxed enough but wagoning isn't scummy

just because reasons weren't voiced doesn't mean there were none, there was legitimate reason to wagon pjm there and even if there weren't, forming wagons early on as good. PJM's reaction was telling I think. He fools me sometimes in normal mafia though

yes. i know impoetic does flop votes back and forth like a dying fish constantly as town, so i am willing to give them the botd right now

;-;

fun fact: dunnstral has been mafia with me before. he knows this isn't my scum play.

but i don't feel like omgus reading him because iirc sometimes he just doesn't take the 2 seconds to think about how it can't be my scum play (QC maf for example)

if you're aware of what can be your scumplay and what can't why can't you manipulate it? You posted unprompted, you had all the time you wanted to prepare that post.

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No you weren't. And your logic for alisae being town was bad, too.

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Impo nice avi.

Nice avi alisae

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Transcend - reads are ok, maybe town, kinda tryharding tho so paranoid of this

I view this as more non-commital than just a way to approach you. This could be a legitimate read, but surely you see that it gives him wiggle room to scumread you later in the game.

your point?

gerryoat - tryharding, probscum for it

This is a bad readbecause Gerry is barely tryharding, and the basis of "tryharding" making someone scum doesn't make sense, unless this is a very specific meta read. Even so, this seems vague.

this is definitely a very specific metaread, as jae has voiced it to me before, but I think they also voiced it to gerry, so I've been torn about it personally.

Darklyn - obvtown

At least FMPOV, I don't see a good reason to mark Darklyn as obvious town, and it made me think he was potentially parroting off of Transcend's read.

hey, I had the tr on darklyn before transcend did, and no I don't think he's obvious town but I haven't seen a reason to change it and felt like he was good earlier on.

projectmatt - scum, most posts are posturing

"Posturing" is a vague buzzword that doesn't explain anything at all, and it looks like he scumreads me largely because he sees that me and Alise are an easy pick for partners if one of us is scum.

"Posturing" amounts to the concerns I had earlier. You think I'm town, right? I don't think that makes jaereed town at all and something about this post bugs me but the read itself makes sense to me personally.

Alisae - scum, I can read this with scary accuracy, trans he was trying to buddy you earlier and there are also partner pings with matt if you check

I think this read is trash, particularly before Alisae reacted to this thread. There's nothing about Alis's opening play in this game that indicates that they are scum, but quite the contrary. The only reason given here is meta, which is something that I have trouble buying. Meta can be valid, but it seems like a fallback excuse or something that's easy to coast on. Also, I am an incredibly easy person to paint as a partner of Alise since we've -defended- each other, wihch makes me feel like he was going for people he percieved as easy targets.

if one of you gets lynched it doesn't matter that the other is the partner, and I really don't buy people strategizing this hard with early reads like this.

[Impoetic]

Hey Impoetic



How's it going

Also I disagree - I'm not a big fan of that one from Alisae

hey dunnstral, my endeavor to start afresh with reads was met almost entirely with frustration, but I like your manga posts.

[Impoetic]

if one of you gets lynched it doesn't matter that the other is the partner

I don't quite get what this means

if jaereed is tunneling an "easy lynch" (implying that person is town) because of partner tells, and that person gets lynched, the person they have partner tells with isn't implicated and jaereed is.

Sorry, that was terrible wording on my part

His current one is fine but doesn't really fit his streak of anime girl gifs and I'm looking forward to what he has in store next

good choice

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your point?

It's not a good read. It lets him out a read on a player while giving himself room to scumread them later. This is something that mafia do a lot, which is my point.

you're complaining about jaereed's certainty.

This is jaereed's only uncertain townread, to my recollection.

Transcend's a player to be paranoid about.

Jaereed being uncertain here isn't scummy. You just said he was scummy for calling people obvtown and scummy for being paranoid about a townread. What are they supposed to do? Never out townreads at all?

this is definitely a very specific metaread, as jae has voiced it to me before, but I think they also voiced it to gerry, so I've been torn about it personally.

Good.

what's good? that wasn't a greeting, that was, "Are you glad I'm not sure about Gerry's alignment and the validity of the read on gerry or are you glad jaereed has a metaread on gerry which denies one of the problems you had with jaereed?" and if it's the latter, which I'm inclined to assume it is... why is that a good thing?

hey, I had the tr on darklyn before transcend did, and no I don't think he's obvious town but I haven't seen a reason to change it and felt like he was good earlier on.

Why do you townread Darklyn? Regardless, I still think the read is likely to be forced. In particular, it's the "obvious town" part of his read that I don't like, especially since mafia try to find reads that are generally agreed upon by the rest of the players and then state them for towncred, like he might have down by calling you obvtown as well.

my read on darklyn, from what I remember, was I guess just gut, and unabashedly sheeping in a way that made me think it wouldn't come from scum. I don't really think jaereed would actively try to have their reads agree with everyone else as scum, but maybe they'd be biased towards it? Transcend had obvtown on darklyn too though, so if your complaint is that the read is unjustified...

"Posturing" amounts to the concerns I had earlier. You think I'm town, right? I don't think that makes jaereed town at all and something about this post bugs me but the read itself makes sense to me personally.

Yeah, but the word "posturing" is like a rorschach test - it can literally mean whatever you take it to mean. The read is vague and has no substance.

it might be vague but it's a specific thing.

if one of you gets lynched it doesn't matter that the other is the partner, and I really don't buy people strategizing this hard with early reads like this.

I don't understand what you mean by this. You don't buy players strategizing with early team reads, right? Then my point about Jae should stand.

[/quote]I. Do. Not. Understand

why scum would want to hard-SR someone BECAUSE that person has partner-tells with someone else, which is what I thought you said.

edit: juri asked why normal websites didn't show all previous posts instead of letting you post when you tried. This is why

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VOTE: alisae

jaereed your scumread reacted really crappily to the pressure on him

come vote with me

i've been waiting for a vc, i dont like yolo voting v much

if you're certain alisae is mafia, you should be doing something to convince town. Why are you content with just saying that and not trying to get her lynched?

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him*** sorry!!!

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OK someone tell me: does scum REALLY make CONSCIOUS PLANS to target certain people or not

fresh out of RVS

in mafiascum? Is that the meta here? Because 3 distinct individuals just implied they do.

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no it's not "x's problem" if you know someone's town and scumreading you part of the game is to convince them you're town, regardless of your alignment.

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him*** sorry!!!

Don't be sorry, that's what he gets for having a girl avi

agreed, I'm glad he's the only guy in this game who uses female anime/manga character icons

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you don't have to CASE to push for a lynch. Having a scumread and not getting it lynched is effectively the same as having no reads at all, isn't it?

I know I'm being unfair but I also know you probably know that as well as -- or better than -- I do.

predit-that-comes-from-20-minute-distraction: NVMVm

i esd bring stupid

i was being stupid*

i'm sorry about your hangover ):

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I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game

207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjm

hahahaahahhaahhahaahahahaha

vote: jaereed

don't ignore me. I'm a cat now. I will pace in front of your face and sit on your keyboard, bish.

[Impoetic]

jaereed is the type of player to project confidence in their reads as their signature should indicate pretty clearly

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jae "I'm hungover, now let's make sure everyone else has a headache too" reed

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?????????????????????????????????/

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I'm more than a little confused because I'm town and nothing I've done could really be construed as a scumtell since earlier @dunnstral

@PJM if it's playstyle that's the problem how is jaereed's worse than people like transcend and gerry and why re you calling himscum

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VOTE: Darklyn

I changed my mind

the same applies for this.

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it's not about self-consciousness

nothing I've done could really be construed as a scumtell since earlier

...?

How would you know, or are you just getting self conscious

Pretty bold to say "nothing I've done is a scum tell"

And pretty weird to see that coming from a town mindset - scumtell? really?

VOTE: impoetic

"since earlier"

AKA nothing i've done is telling at all or could be construed as such

Darklyn's iso is worse than I remember him in realtime but it's also early on and they aren't here, far from something I'd want to vote right now

[Impoetic]

nothing I've done recently**** as I specified the first time

bold isn't bad

it's also not really bold fmpov, at all

[Impoetic]

It would be bold if I let relevant reads stick in my head long enough to post them even once

it's not bold to say I don't get why you'd think I'm scum right now when you didn't earlier

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jae "I'm hungover, now let's make sure everyone else has a headache too" reed

ahahahahahaha +100

also i love how pjm and dunnstral are both pointing out my arrogance and cockiness which are not only fairly standard towntells but also towntells specific to me. dunn also should know that given the hydra double day game we played.

im annoyed because there's a reasonable chance that youre town but you just happen to be one of those kinds of players whose playstyles that i despise with the passion of a thousand burning suns

what changed your mind?

and why is jaereed's playstyle any worse than anyone else's if they're town lmfao

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"

bold isn't bad

" is what I meant to say when I said "bold isn't bad"

sorry about that grammatical error on my part

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like I guess you could scumread me for coasting? but to my memory I've been pretty obvious about where that's coming from

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You don't scumread me for self-consciousness

you voted me before I worded it that way

darklyn has been distinctly not self-conscious and you haven't outed what you disliked about his iso, though maybe I got distracted and forgot to ask

predit: I care because it means that your vote most likely isn't motivated by getting darklyn's reaction.

[Impoetic]

she never realized I recruited her to my cult and then I died night 2

RIP

Though I had a townread on her this game, but this game...???

so what changed?

[Impoetic]

You don't scumread me for self-consciousness

I was talking to jaereed

My read's really got you on edge huh?

not even remotely. And you talking to jaereed doesn't mean I'm not going to address what you said, and shouldn't

AKA nothing i've done is telling at all or could be construed as such

You're not the one who decides this

no but I decide whether or not I think you're scum or town and whether your read is genuine

[Impoetic]

so what changed?

you

What changed about me?

[Impoetic]

this game is a pile of poop

appears I injected my toxicity into it by accident when I got exasperated and resorted to making bad jokes. I apologize. Oh wait, I got exasperated because

this game is a pile of poop

[Impoetic]

alisae's the one that threatened to change their icon to one of yours, not me

[Impoetic]

What changed about me?

Presumably your alignment, I'm sure you know it this time too

my alignment changed??????????????????????????

I checked my PMs, it says 0.

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my memory is pretty bad, you don't want your memory to be like mine

predit: OH, okay. you're right I'm not sided with the cult. Why do you think what you think, dunnstral?

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FRICK you MADE ME CHANGE MY CP now I have to go back and find PjM's post again which I NEEDED TO DO ANYWAY to check something else but it's all your fault anyway

jaereed.

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i did really check my PMs to be sure it was 0 when you said that yes, because all it takes is refreshing the page which takes a lot less time for me than employing common sense

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I'm not very good at explaining my reads, but I'll say that impoetic is a mixture of seeming not quite right earlier on and then what she said that I called her out on + her reaction to pressure

that's a fine explanation and all I wanted. It's wrong, and you still voted two people that I felt seemed easiest to push at the time simply due to inertia that, through my confbias lens, isn't scum-indicative (in my case because there was a bunch going on and I voiced my frustration several times and in darklyn's case because he was literally not there) so in this case I believe you misinterpreted my alarm at the vote being weird and confused it for alarm at being voted if you're town.

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but he forgot to upload the file.....

it's "However, he neglected to upload the password file..."

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I thought the part right before it was scummier.

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Just a second and I'll finally pick a vote I have set clear restrictions for myself and if I break them someone murder me IRL pleasepleaseplease

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ffs just sheep me on impo she is bleeding town

if you know me this well you should know every time you assert this I get a little more scared out of my (already severely lacking) wits about you

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Like I guess I don't say it much but getting townreads asserted a lot is a scumtell in my book and I think you might be an exception to that rule but it still bugs me irrationally?

predit: I was coasting/procrastinating and still kind of am, darklyn was AFK and I don't like your read on it. Other people around were loud but also creating a clearly-not-entirely-town dynamic and it was weird for you to ignore that and pick players I thought you'd think were towny, AKA me and my tr.

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@Dunnstral: when you voted me I was shitposting and actively staring at my screen without fully processing everything or voting/outing reads, I'm pretty sure I was posting enough for that to be like the definition of coasting. you let up AFTER my reaction was intense which you claim to have interpreted as scummy.

Hey imp if I said I hard townread you how would that make you feel

what does this even accomplish

What have you even accomplished I'm asking a question

it would make me feel like why are you outing that read and what does that even accomplish, as in the read itself, not the question, but also the question come to think of it. if that's you outing the read, it makes me feel weird about you. if it's just a hypothetical, i'm indifferent; it depends how you say it. I was referring earlier to a dislike for people constantly reiterating the same read. Or semi-constantly. Or occasionally.

in the way jaereed has been, that is.

predit: help I can't keep up pls everyone freeze and drop your weapons

I think jaereed could be town doing that though, so it's pointless. and i still haven't reread.

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Crazy imp left right before I ask my question. So, all of you- If a person said they think you're solid town, how would that make you feel?

I didn't leave I was thinking about something else and it was a hard question. like how do you take that question? it depends on the situation. if that question had been a tr on me I would probably suspect you for it, for a completely different reason from why I'd suspecT JAEREED more if they were anyone else doing what they're doing right now.

HOLY FK YOU GUYS POST SO MUCH SUDDENLY

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@Dunnstral: when you voted me I was shitposting and actively staring at my screen without fully processing everything or voting/outing reads, I'm pretty sure I was posting enough for that to be like the definition of coasting. you let up AFTER my reaction was intense which you claim to have interpreted as scummy.

So if that's the case, how can you have said there's no reason for me to read you as scum?

Also, you seem to be implying this somehow is scummy of me

it took me a minute to think of that is how.

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Whatever. Catching up. I disliked it at the time, because I was focused on the other two and you opted specifically to go for me and dark. It's something I can't fully voice and don't care to continue trying to do.

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projectmatt more like projectrena more like projectpsycho eeeeeeeey
UNVOTE:
Yeah this is most likely town.

Projectmatt push is garbage

Why?

juri tell me in 10 words or less why you're scum

Received a scum role PM. I'm the roleblocker. VOTE: Juri

I believe it.
VOTE: Juri

The alisae scummy post zoo roll up roll up

fight me alisae

eli5?

ALSO WHY THE SUDDEN EXPLOSION OF ACTIVITY

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a) matt is worse
b) defending matt followed by questioning others for defending matt

oh. sorry. I really can't keep up with this.

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WHY THE SUDDEN EXPLOSION OF ACTIVITY is something you fake as scum, dunnstral?

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it takes clicking submit at least 3 times before I can get a single post out.

NOW i'm going to reread.

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Don't get me wrong, I know the feeling of a strong gut read. But you came up with that read in the first few pages and now are tunneled into that (typical of you I imagine) which doesn't help if you're wrong which happens

not gut.

impo is practically family to me, i can read her. i have hydra'd with her as scum, I know the difference between her pretending to be town and being town, and her reaction to pressure is the easiest way to read her. as scum she reacts really badly, as town she's just self conscious about how she comes across but still genuinely tries to sort people through their push on her, and usually ends up w/ nothing substantial as far as a solid read from it.

this is just impo town.

I thought I faked that as scum before.

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In an EM game. at least I tried to...

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well I certainly will in the future, thanks jaereed

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WHY THE SUDDEN EXPLOSION OF ACTIVITY is something you fake as scum, dunnstral?

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well I certainly will in the future, thanks jaereed

and I'll still read you correctly <3 because I pay far too much attention to your quirks.

because I'm fucking bad at this game.

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does anyone know what the votes on alisae are currently at?

I think leaving that and its pursuers unflipped is a bad idea, unless something changed that I missed. Really out of it right now.

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Actually I personally find alisae towny right now. this isn't the time for me to play I guess. Pretty sure I'm currently unvoted but just in case

unvote

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Dissecting 149 and posting my thoughts in

GREEN

Transcend - reads are ok, maybe town, kinda tryharding tho so paranoid of this

This is a decent way to approach me. It's never a good idea to townread me super early since I'm capable of a good scum game.

gerryoat - tryharding, probscum for it

I don't sense tryharding but I don't feel good about gerry this game either.

Darklyn - obvtown

Agree

Juri - dunno, maybe town

Agree, not a super strong read.

Trivium - null
Crash - null

Two null reads zzzz

Impoetic - obvtown, this just isn't her scum play, i'd know considering we hydra'd as scum

Agree, although Impoetic wasn't really being voted at the time so I'm not sure why they offered heavy defense.

projectmatt - scum, most posts are posturing

Agree

Dunnstral - null
JaeReed - me!
nancy - null

zzzz

Alisae - scum, I can read this with scary accuracy, trans he was trying to buddy you earlier and there are also partner pings with matt if you check

Wish they went a bit more into this, but it doesn't look artificial.

usagichan - null

zzz

if you want a free scum lynch then it's Ali, if you want to save him for later that's fine too just remember he's scum when i'm nightkilled.

seems like cocky town.

pedit trans you always scumread me early game, i wouldn't play this way as scum so you're wasting your time

this was the only part i really didn't like

pedit2 lol ok that was actually funny

jajaja

okay there you go i don't see anything too bad. what am i missing?

I'm gonna tryhard now cause of all the EM people in the game

and why does epicmafia=tryhard? seems like it should almost be the opposite to me tbh

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Jae is also a viable wagon.
Maaaaaaaybe Juri.

I actually kind of like this. I think that shooting for me (as an actual wagon canditate rather than as pressure) is not a very opportunistic thing to do. Seems driven by genuine thoughts about me, however tentative they might be.

I actually kind of dislike this.

Also jae I'm prone to omgus as town????? I'm pretty sure I've been prone to omgus this game. I omgused transcend, I still have doubts about dunnstral. I remember thinking I omgus a lot in the past too. How is that an explanation?

I feel stupid for barking down this alley if you're town but there's a lot that sticks out to me and I will be pretty demoralized if I let you buddy me

all fucking game

and you flip scum

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so please don't do that. try to ml me instead or something. please

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never mind jae's town

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impoetic do you think it's possible for jaereed to hard TR you right away? have they ever tried to buddy you befoee?

probably.

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literally had to click submit 3x

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where are you at right now gerry? I kinda missed all the stuff I just reread I guess

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how are you trivium? scared i'm scum again. well i have good news.

lmfao, this post feels so genuine

come to think of it, is this sarcasm or a real read? I genuinely can't tell

predit: YOU'D BETTER NOT BIDHFJFDLKG;LN;'

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Alright guys, I am gonna extreme tryhard from page 25 on to the rest of the game. ur gonna think someone hacked my account

"Radical."

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and why does epicmafia=tryhard? seems like it should almost be the opposite to me tbh

because I actually enjoy playing with you all, and i dont have to deal with people trying to policy lynch me day 1 for my attitude, because you all know how i act.

(also d'awwww)

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Jae is also a viable wagon.
Maaaaaaaybe Juri.

I actually kind of like this. I think that shooting for me (as an actual wagon canditate rather than as pressure) is not a very opportunistic thing to do. Seems driven by genuine thoughts about me, however tentative they might be.

I actually kind of dislike this.

Also jae I'm prone to omgus as town????? I'm pretty sure I've been prone to omgus this game. I omgused transcend, I still have doubts about dunnstral. I remember thinking I omgus a lot in the past too. How is that an explanation?

I feel stupid for barking down this alley if you're town but there's a lot that sticks out to me and I will be pretty demoralized if I let you buddy me

all fucking game

and you flip scum

Not like how you were when we hydra'd babe. Your scum omgus has a bad tone.

It's fine for you to be paranoid. I won't flip scum though, so you don't need to worry about that <3

VOTE: dunnstral

chew on that suckers

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I wish I could relate to the transcend tr

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VOTE: Impoetic

you're voting town, scum. who else do you think is scum, scum?

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I actually think dunnstral's scum right now. That wasn't a joke vote. I will unvote and lynch in you and alisae if you're 100% certain alisae is scum because I don't like letting that sit at all

you could even say it...

sits wrong with me B)

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Alisae, can I get you to respond to whatever question jaereed asked?

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I'll come and tap you with my kitty paws until you do. :3

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by tap I mean
VOTE: alisae

unvote

VOTE: dunnstral

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Depends. Can you get alisae to respond to that question I asked?

(what question did you ask and why is it all-important)

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Wait. Fuck. I broke my restriction I LITERALLY GAVE MYSELF and announced
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asdfgs

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Are you Asian, Nancy? Your name isn't Asian. Your name is very distinctly not Asian. It's like the most Western/European name you can possibly have. I don't even think Asians can pronounce the name Nancy. They'd probably say like, Nanusi, or something.

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dunnstral where are your reads at, overall, and why are you completely ignoring the big fight that went on for a while and not making an attempt to cause it to settle down

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Jae is also a viable wagon.
Maaaaaaaybe Juri.

I actually kind of like this. I think that shooting for me (as an actual wagon canditate rather than as pressure) is not a very opportunistic thing to do. Seems driven by genuine thoughts about me, however tentative they might be.

UNVOTE: juri

whydoyoutrjuriforthatmafiascum

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and why are you completely ignoring the big fight that went on for a while and not making an attempt to cause it to settle down

What? I'm not your babysitter LOL

alisae and jae.

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UNVOTE: dunnstral

I'll grace everyone with my lack of presence

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You're trying to say I should be "stopping their conflict" as town - why should I do that?

I didn't understand why you just silentvoted outside of it the whole time with like 1 remark on what's probably svt or else going to drown out the chance to lynch scum, but i think my mind was foggy.

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Is. My mind is foggy.

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LMFAO IF THEY'RE BOTH

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I am currently leaning that alisae is more likely to be scum than jaereed

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and would not in a million years lynch jaereed today, despite not really wanting to lynch outside, for a couple reasons everyone would look down on me for but that I believe to be game-relevant in this case probably.

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Trivium, projectmatt or Juri would be my first choices for a lynch today I think
VOTE: Trivium

I think a projectmatt lynch or a juri lynch would be better than a trivium lynch and how did you decide to vote trivium over the other two

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wait why triv?

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I don't think so. He's stayed natural all game and the last post is a problem I have with other players too, and I've probably done the same. Certain posts indicate that he is fairly relaxed and I feel like it's hard enough to fake as scum, + if he's mafia he can be dealt with later. He has the lowest quantity of posts that make me doubt him, although there are still a couple. I could see him flipping scum but I think he's more likely to be town right now, especially considering how many scummy players are in this game.

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yes

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I don't think so. He's stayed natural all game and the last post is a problem I have with other players too, and I've probably done the same. Certain posts indicate that he is fairly relaxed and I feel like it's hard enough to fake as scum, + if he's mafia he can be dealt with later. He has the lowest quantity of posts that make me doubt him, although there are still a couple. I could see him flipping scum but I think he's more likely to be town right now, especially considering how many scummy players are in this game.

granted he also has the lowest quantity of posts. I meant ratio of posts there, not quantity.

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no pjm i want to lynch you because I think you're town that just happens to be trying to further scum's wincon and avoiding detection and using faulty logic earlier on.

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I am currently leaning that alisae is more likely to be scum than jaereed

I think it's town v town

but why

I don't scumread either of them yet

but why are you confident they're town v town?

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trivium is still scum

can we get the quick weigh in from everyone as to who is on team alisae and who is on team jr

Crash don't do that, maybe you're from a different time or something, but this is bad, don't do this. Nobody's on any sides, nobody's taking any sides, and town sure as hell is not going to focus on 'sides'.

um actually i said teams

ill rephrase

do you think they're both full of shit
neither of them are full of shit
or one of them is full of shit

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frick

I am currently leaning that alisae is more likely to be scum than jaereed

I think it's town v town

but why

meant to quote this

I assume you think jae is scum. so you think trivium's jae's partner?

sorry for all the spamposting

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@PJM you said "but why" and I assumed that was an expression of disagreement

I FOS you because I feel overall like you're trying not to get lynched more than anything else right now

juri and trivium it's mostly tone

trivium came in late and picking him over you and juri seemed weird to me but is ultimately not a scumtell.

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Jaereed: omgus is a scum tell from impoetic

Impoetic: vote:dunnstral

and your point?

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It wasn't really omgus, ftr. I literally quoted it for comedy's sake but it was mostly based on something else. If you really want to push jae's meta as a reason to lynch me you're being a hypocrite and you know it

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Jaereed: omgus is a scum tell from impoetic

Impoetic: vote:dunnstral

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:T

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you're all mean

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Would Nancy say that as scum? The thing about "proving you can't read your GF"?

shouldn't come as a surprise I'm sad about being such an easy metaread for so many people

I don't like how this game is progressing overall and I feel bad for not picking a vote after making multiple resolves to do so

I feel bad for the EM games I just played and really messed up

therefore you're all mean.

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I still need to catch up.

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Dunnstral has played with me in 2 blitz games (one we were both town, one he was scum I was town), Ari's donner party mafia (I was vig, he was town, and I tunneled him all D1 then shot his scumread who was the sk), Questionable Content mafia (he quickly realized I was town really early on after having an issue with me having early reads), Trial of the Evoker (we were scum together and I was in a hydra with Impoetic. Dunn counterclaimed a watcher that watched him make the kill and got that person lynched; i have a really hard time believing he can forget that kind of play), and Typhon (dunn was cult leader and realized I was town there too, and recognized Impoetic as obvtown there and culted her for it)

Like, Dunn pretending he doesn't know how I play is god awful.

are you town?

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Probably Darklyn even though all he' done so far is naked vote and flirt

Proof this guy hasn't read the game - no response to this? Really? Non-town

VOTE: Darklyn

not reading the game is a scumtell?

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VOTE: projectmatt

because everyone disappeared off this vote and it didn't change its behavior.

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There's a chance I'm wrong considering the last few games (of EM) I played where he was mafia but it's also forum mafia so it makes sense he'd behave more like this. I think even though I've overall failed to change my tone I've changed enough that town!Dunnstral could misread me, and I'm not sure what to think of the jaereed thing.

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Wait wait wait never mind I was being stupid about a thing

VOTE: trivium

this is okay

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but I might have been wrong on darklyn

UNVOTE: pjm
VOTE: nancy

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that sounds really cryptic and stupid. I dislike that pjm and alisae are both on the wagon, I'm a little worried about darklyn sheeping. I was wrong about PJM's unvote being inexplicable earlier and was wrong to vote there because it leaves the big ball of conflict alive. Nancy I don't have my qualms with either about. I still think pjm is potential mafia.

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just off memory I was disliking the way that wagon formed but I also really don't feel comfortable voting with projectmatt right now and I don't think mafia really busses d1 in these games? I also had an early tr on him when I was reading a lot closer than I am atm.

edit: hahahahahahahaha

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but if you want the real answer, it's because his icon is a giant space turtle.

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but if you want the real answer, it's because his icon is a giant space turtle.

stop

):

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UNVOTE: RC

not a removal of the read

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Dunnstral has played with me in 2 blitz games (one we were both town, one he was scum I was town), Ari's donner party mafia (I was vig, he was town, and I tunneled him all D1 then shot his scumread who was the sk), Questionable Content mafia (he quickly realized I was town really early on after having an issue with me having early reads), Trial of the Evoker (we were scum together and I was in a hydra with Impoetic. Dunn counterclaimed a watcher that watched him make the kill and got that person lynched; i have a really hard time believing he can forget that kind of play), and Typhon (dunn was cult leader and realized I was town there too, and recognized Impoetic as obvtown there and culted her for it)

Like, Dunn pretending he doesn't know how I play is god awful.

are you town?

Yes.

Also, you just broke your promise to me.

probably because i forgot that whole conversation until just now

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I was quoting something that made me doubt you, would not have SRed you if you didn't respond to that but I'm sorry I forgot the thing

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I wrote this

that sounds really cryptic and stupid. I dislike that pjm and alisae are both on the wagon, I'm a little worried about darklyn sheeping. I was wrong about PJM's unvote being inexplicable earlier and was wrong to vote there because it leaves the big ball of conflict alive. Nancy I don't have my qualms with either about. I still think pjm is potential mafia.

right before PJM asked this

impoetic what changed between you voting me and you voting nancy? what were you wrong about? i think youre town so walk me through this

trivium is fake and i guess i can tryhard and make an EffortPost on him if i need to

and it's not the first time he's asked a question that didn't look like it needed an answer

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PJM: I wanna know why you think trivium's fake, just any explanation, because if you gave one I missed it. alisae's posts weren't super convincing to me. Sorry if I'm being thickheaded. I feel a little out-of-the-loop

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Gerryoat's probably town this game and currently VLA

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Nancy and PJM are the slots that just subbed out and appear preoccupied respectively

I could see either one flipping scum but PJM I've misread before and Nancy has barely posted

pretty confident jaereed's town.

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And again, alisae has been using my existence as an excuse to talk about practically nothing else. It's like lurking but worse because alisae thinks it makes him look like he's doing something.

This reads as:

I have to desperately make an attempt to throw more and more shade because Alisae is right and I don't even want to make an attempt to re-evaluate my fake scumread.

It sounds more like YOU'RE doing what you're accusing trivium of doing right now

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It felt like a lot of people fosed you early on, then later all the other the scumreads suddenly seemed to have dropped off when I didn't feel like you had towntold at all, which was weird. After thinking on it more I realized that a bunch of people started posting and there were several tunnels that could cause that to happen, and I didn't feel the people on your wagon were scummy so if you're scum it would either mean that was just an irrelevant fact or that someone outside of that turned the attention elsewhere. It was a very superficial thought process in retrospect

Trivium is currently null to me except that the people voting him, and the way I remember it coming about, unsettle me.

nancy's slot is scummy. She had some towny lines but overall had a tone that feels really off (more off than trivium's) and reads that didn't seem to come about naturally for the most part (one exception being their entrance, which was sort of towny iirc).

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UNVOTE: RC

not a removal of the read

so what is it

RC subbed in and I'm not voting them until they have a chance to form stances on the game.

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actually gerry might not be town

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UNVOTE: RC

not a removal of the read

so what is it

RC subbed in and I'm not voting them until they have a chance to form stances on the game.

So what is the thought process behind this? How does this work?

He's not near lynch

I didn't check voting logs

he subbed out so I unvoted. Where are you going with this line of questioning?

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hahahahahahahahahahaha
no, she wasn't

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not even a little, if she was town she was probably gonna be MLed at some point at the game since I wasn't the only one who scumread her

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No, it's not a posture, it's me trying to laugh at things that annoy me like everyone else seems to, because SHE WAS NOT OVERALL TOWNY and I can't believe you don't see how her attitude could look scummy to some even if you personally townread her. You're not doing too well on changing my view so far either because you claimed to be prepared to vote anyone who thought she was scummy

despite the fact that many people declared her to be scum

without any further analysis and have yet to change that.

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Can you get me a basic list of thoughts you've had other than how towny nancy is? That might inspire me to do anything except recount off memory that transcend fosed nancy and jaereed fosed nancy earlier.

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Okay you're trolling

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no you didn't and if you did you'd know that i lied and jae townread nancy.

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radiantcowbells is either trolling or extremely scummy for the remarks that preceded that

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NOW it's proven you didn't read the game

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you don't think his trolling could be alignment-indicative?

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thanks

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it was policy, i didn't feel comfortable having my vote on the person who hadn't contributed yet because i wouldn't want them lynched, which is what votes are for

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it was totally irrelevant and i COULD have left the vote there, but i didn't. now I'd like the answer to my question that you just quoted

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im too late to flashwagon because i was busy calling my partners in the scum PT so the lynch would go through but my mental flashvote is there

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preview edit: let me post

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i do want an answer about where the line of questioning was going though, triv, unless you answered and i missed it.

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you're supposed to keep it in the PT...

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VOTE: radiantcowbells

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doesn't matter i'm pretty sure you're town now though i'll feel really awful if i'm wrong

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I also don't really remember

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Actually I think the correct solution is to replace out.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

This is symbolic, I'm thinking of replacing out because I really don't want to play with scum!RC again. I don't have the energy to push something that will never go through and he's unlynchable as scum.

That said, he

is

scum, 100%.

this is gross and never say anything like this ever again

replace me

wha

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Gerryoat's probably town this game and currently VLA

Why do you think he's probably town? Why do you feel the need to point out he's VLA?

idon't feel comfortable lynching someone who's VLA, even if he's possibly mafia. I thhought he wwas town earlier because I didn't feel like he was really tryharding even though he said he would.

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darklyn might actually be mafia

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actually no not if rc flips scum anyway

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sorry i'm stupid and relapsing into my old tendencies fuck

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over their reads agreeing?

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actually gerry might not be town

Not like you ever read me right anyway. So this post confirms me as town l0l

I mean, I scumread you in the EM game and you were scum, though maybe that was a coincidence

I was townreading you early on, too, and for a while.

Maybe my read's on you a coinflip but that doesn't confirm you as town or make you in any way townier unless my read is completely antithetical to your play, which I'd like to think it is not

sorry for misreading you a lot :c

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VOTE: Jae

I think Jae is town

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UNVOTE:

fro99er is towny and I don't think rc and dunnstral agreeing isindicative of a team read

sorry for not being more invested

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I didn't feel like gerry was tryharding like he does normally he just has a weird tone

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meh maybe i'm being buddied after all

i had a really strong townread on jaereed before though

everything sucks

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i thought his response to my question was scummy but am currently ambivalent and i think i have trouble reading people like him overall

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or just people, in general. do you still scumread fro9?

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explain the weird tone? or that I don't feel like he's tryharding? I assume the former

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what the fuck is going on

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Frogger quit trying to kill yourself and vote for what you believe in.

I honestly believe that I should be dead. That was a lynch.

ALISAE SELFVOTED

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I mean I thought it was wifom at the time but then

ALISAE GOT HAMMERED

and subbed out

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beforehand, you didn't have time

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selfvoting is dumb as either alignment and even if you flip scum I don't feel happy about it

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I don't even think you're flipping scum anymore

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I probably got buddied by jaereed because I'm a nimrod with more than a couple screws loose

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and selfish, and easy to sway through AtE

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I won't be having a train on darklyn until somebody tells me why.

he sheeped all game, most likely

why would you NOT see reasons to lynch darklyn

the question is whether the reasons are right

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I think I want a trivium lynch more, I dislike his buddying and I dislike his play here, his tone has been getting worse and worse

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mhsmith chose not to make you hammered so you aren't hammered, it's not fair to force us to lynch you

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Frogger quit trying to kill yourself and vote for what you believe in.

Wow i feel betrayed

nvm sorry trivium thanks for agreeing with me

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so then why do you want to be hammered?