2017 NFL Football

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The most interesting thing about the Osweiler thing is that I'm surprised it doesn't happen(in football) more often, because it's a textbook basketball trade - bad teams taking on bad contracts for assets. And maybe giving up a decent veteren with a better contract in return.

football contracts have much less gauranteed money in them if I recall correctly

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Not sure how I feel about Eagles WR pickups
Though at least more likely to work out than their recent draft choices

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What's everyone's team - and after FA so far, what position/player are you expecting them to pick up in the draft?

Before FA, I would have expected drafting a WR early. But now, I'm guessing CB in the first round, and RB/OL in 2/3 maybe stocking up on a second DB in later rounds. And probably look for a DT to replace Benny Logan later on as well.

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I think it really depends on what they see in this and next year's draft class. Also depends of Jimmy G is willing to take a discount as Brady did. But if he's still playing as backup it'd have to be a hell of a discount.

I think they're hoping for either a draft day run up, or something Bradfordish happening to skyrocket his value. Either way I think Romo has to resolve, and maybe teams courting McCarron

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What's with the Belichick leaving with Brady rumors? I don't buy it.

I don't either, but I think the logic is that it's the only way they can both remain undisputed GOATs forever and ever.
If he succeeds without Tom, then it was the system and not Brady
If he doesn't, then he was riding the GOATs coattails

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Doubt it
Vegas is just a gaudy version of things players already have access to
the ones doing stupid crap in clubs are already managing to do that

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but damn the rendered stadium plans look siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

You can do a lot with $750 million free money

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prostitution isn't legal in vegas either

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Not in Vegas, but nearby it is

P much same distance as from Sacramento, and I haven't heard of any issues with the Kings

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It's probably best for his long term quality of life

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And we got rid of Phil Simms
great news

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He'd have to be in Marino's league

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really depends on the era
are they all playing at the same time
Also I know which one is Romo because every article must mention his QB rating

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I think of the QBs you mention, Aikman is the overrated one not Warner or Romo

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merited
there are older HoFers that also had very short careers

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Gale Sayers didn't have a lengthy career. Only two season rushing for more than 1,000

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obligatory -My Team- doesn't need a -insert position- moran

EDIT: damnit Kmd already did it

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always know the QBs will go higher than the mocks, but this is p funny

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Think I can see the Eagles taking a RB in round 2 if one of the remaining top talents is left for them. Then maybe trading up in Rd 3 for a cornerback

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I'm still laughing at the Bears

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Welp looks like the Raiders aren't going to last very long
Brady's (and others') hometown discount is the major crux of the Pats dynasty
Paying your QB that much means lots of people aren't getting paid

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Hey, Marcus Smith got cut, in case anyone forgot he was still playing. And Nelson would be out if not for the lost cash, though he still might leave. Good going dropping two relatively recent first round picks in the same off season. Great drafting there.

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at least one of Miami or Buffalo has to miss the playoffs after a heartbreaking end of season loss to a team they were supposed to beat. So I'd say they beat whoever in division they play last that isn't the Pats

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https://twitter.com/NFLSTROUD/status/896404919841939456

Bucs release K Roberto Aguayo

Taking this guy in the second was possibly the dumbest draft move of all time.

marcus smith

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but they're so old
theyre probably too old to even run anymore
adn they don't train like Zeke and OBJ do
or watch any tape
cause theyre old

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they're even more older than ever now

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everything is replacable on the Pats

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think you mean punching

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200 scouting combine

wow
older than i thought

you also forgot to mention the best offensive line in football evar TM

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yeah what happened to the Giants
after last year and offseason I was expecting decency
they are p much just bad righ tnow

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around the one minute mark

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aside from the TO years, iggles never really had much in the way of receivers

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i'd say he's a bit above average. Though no Cunningham for sure

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I think Reid and McNabb were about equal in their ability. Both somewhat above average. Neither could pull it out when it mattered, but I'd say their inability to win a championship with their better squads was much more on Reid than McNabb

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brian hoyer played good today but on all the important shit he consistently fucks up.

interception on first play. interception on extra point to tie the game. sacked on last drive of the game that could have won it all.

this isnt putting into effect the terrible two previous games.

i recognize im being hard on the guy but im just so pissed from those firdt 2 games that the anger wont dissipate for a while. the extra point interception and last drive was also really frustrating to see.

yeah don't blame the kicker that missed the extra point or anything
def qb's fault for not converting the 2 pointer and getting sacked on 4 and 20 after the ref's took away an obv first down on 3 and 10

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to be fair
he is old
some say older than ever

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Man the Iggles look to have gotten a clutch kicker
hope this wasnt a fluke

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I'm p happy that we seem to have lucked into a clutch kicker

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Aikman wasn't a great qb
thought we've already been over this

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Yeah, fuck mcadoo

i really dont know how he's a head coach
but hey it's not like I haven't lived through much worse in Philly
Rich Kotite and Chip Kelly as examples

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I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the first year of Kelly. Moving the game so fast they couldn't even show replays and all the ridiculous pictures on the side of the field for play calling were great.

After the league realized he was just running the same two plays over and over, Nick Foles voodoo curse that prevented DBs from catching all of his surefire interceptions, and the shipping out of most of the Eagles talent the following season just didn't really make it all worth it. But it was fun while it lasted.

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It's so weird for me because growing up no one was a Pats fan. Pats fans literally did not exist to my childhood. The team was just known for having a crappy looking logo
All the bandwagoners were mostly Dallas since they were winning all the time, or Raiders because of their team colors.

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ppl like winning teams

so I don't have to like the Eagles anymore?

or
maybe I'm not a person

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Also, all you people whining about being fans of bad teams, please spare a thought for those poor bastards who're fans of the Cleveland Browns. Now they're true sports fans. Or massochists. Either/or.

I mean...I root for the

Mets

Eagles, Sixers, Flyers.

If not for the Phillies of the 00's, I'd have never experienced a title in my lifetime, and I'm from a 4 sport town
and old

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Curling is legitimately the best thing in the winter olympics.

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Yeah I feel bad for Bills, Brown, Lions, and Jags fan.

Everyone’s time will come though. Circle of life.

why would you feel bad for Jags fans
they're an expansion team
Lions and Browns have been sucking for decades on end

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the issue with the browns is the ravens. That was just savage.

yeah twas brutal

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the issue with the browns is the ravens. That was just savage.

yeah twas brutal

almost as savage as the sonics going to oklahoma city...

nah
seattle, actually any city, is better off without a team holding it ransom for huge handouts they can easily afford

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prostitution isn't legal in Vegas anyway
and yeah, the gambling arguments are decades out of touch

I think it's mostly because Vegas is a tourist town. A lot like Orlando
And the local population there is, for the most part, transplants from other states/countries so there is less of a 'city pride' that people think is required to support a sports franchise. The worry here is that you end up with something like a Charger effect where home games turn into road games as fans come into the tourist town an attend games in larger numbers than the home team. That's kind of why the Raiders are one of the few teams that makes any sense in Vegas as they have a broad geographical distribution already due to their bad boy persona and team colors that people without a team tend to support.

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owners need to sell jerseys
how else are they gonna put food on the table?

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Again, instead of putting the Raiders there you might as well put the chargers there, they have 0 fans.

I'm p sure St. Louis would be more than happy to have yet another franchise lease out their city

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think you meant Dominik Hasek

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oanzer you just got wrextalled

wrecked

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ftfy

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Eagles of recent years tend to start the season a lot better than they finish
I think their coaching staff just isn't very good at adjusting over the course of the year after other teams figure out what theyre doing


I'm actually quite surprised about the Giants. But I guess I should have just been surprised that they managed to do so well last year. If you're lucky you'll have a new head coach and draft a highly regarded QB (or sell off your pick for a buttload)

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The giants will surely come up with a way to win 6 games this year and not even profit off of our ineptitude.

prob true
plus they've been in quite a few of their games this year. Just shitty play calling/clock management gave the other team a foothold

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If I remember right the NFC East plays both AFC and NFC West this year. Then you would tack on the remaining #2's from the NFC North and South

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Philadelphia
Detroit
Cleveland
Jacksonville
Houston
Arizona
San Diego
Buffalo
Atlanta
Minnesota
Cincinnati?
Tennessee?

should be roughly accurate

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p happy with the Iggles
If not for that boneheaded roughing the passer and some really borderline PI calls Carolina isn't even in that game. Of course they were gifted an interception. But either way, not used to seeing them play so well. The D line brought be back to the Buddy Ryan years.

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Dude, we're on the same side but you are coming off like an insane person.

sure
coming off like

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Did GB have one of those "process of the catch" TD overturns?
I was doing other stuff so couldn't pay attention, but those are such BS

Also, what is going on this season? It's ridiculous seeing what happens week to week

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as a further slap in the face to Kaepernick.

I'm all for making this as obvious as possible

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I don't know about you guys, but nothing could be more 'exotic smash mouth' than Brandon Weeden

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oh and i saw the jets overturned TD
that was a big crock of BS

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I grew up watching Randall Cunningham...

didn't everyone?

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Kaep not old, tho.

still
he is the oldest he's ever been

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they wanted to double check that Kizer sucked heading in to next years draft

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I think theyd rather have draft picks than quasi-competent qb play

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kinda similar to last season
Iggles get off to a good start against soft competition
lose a talented tackle
....
profit?

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I'm guessing they move Lane Johnson over to left and Vaitai goes to right
but that didn't work last year when Vaitai was inserted for Johnson during the suspension
And if they don't swap, I don't see Vaitai doing any better replacing Peters if he couldn't replace Johnson last season

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yeah I think their schedule is soft enough and the rest of the team augmented enough from last year to make the playoffs

but they will probably lose to whoever is the hot team at the time, unless they happen to be I spose

Just kinda crappy since the O-line was playing so well thus far

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come on fhqwhgads

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come on fhqwhgads

that is some vintage meme.

everytime the phrase "to the limit" is uttered, that song automatically gets going in my head
impossible to stop

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The NFL scheduling feels badly organized this year.

I'm still trying to figure out how Philadelphia and Washington have already played twice before midseason

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i liked it because he kept calling them "broad street bullies" which is hilariously the wrong sport reference

yeah reminiscing on the Buddy Ryan era Eagles defense while using the 70s Flyers nickname was beautiful

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wonder why they finally traded him
also price seems on the low side from what speculations were in the past

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i dont really get the Ajayi trade
I guess Barner gets cut, again
maybe this is more for long term than this season though as a lot of the offense right now is on short term deals that will cost too much to keep going

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is his contract ups soon or something?
about to be suspended?

more likely he's about to get injured I guess. I mean he is going to the Bills as a WR

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I'm fantasizing that the Eagles cockblocked the cowboys from getting Ajayi

huh
good point

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Basically next year he goes from costing about 1m a year to 8m a year.

oh
then what's the problem?

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Thats so browns

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Blount has also been undewhelming at the goal line
not sure if Ajayi is an improvement though

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DRC should have been traded

would anyone want him?

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but they got a second round pick
theyre geniuses really

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i dont know how I'm supposed to feel when multiple people are declaring my team the most dominant force in the league
what even is this?

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is that assuming Jimmy G starts, or just vanilla 49ers?

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I have to say, I get a lot less excited about the Eagles destroying Denver, when I remember that they also lost to NYG

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yeah I loved that play

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meh, the DB was completely out of place from the play action

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and the run defense was shit all day

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the best part about when sam bradford was in Philly is when the Vikes traded a first and a 4th for him

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So apparently the giants are underdogs to the 49ers and if that doesn't just put this season in perspective I don't know what will.

this weeks office football pool essentially hinges on my selection in the Giants v 9ers game
i can't really decide who is worse a this point

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better coach

giants

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am I the only on that notices the musical difference between redzone and regular broadcasting?

Redzone still has that generic peppy 'murika electric guitar riff for its background music circa early 90s or some such. While rest of broadcasts have the more current clicky box of paper clips having a sex rave music

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probably watching the cowboys falcons game next

that sure turned out better

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WOw
Roger's a greedy little piggy
https://dve.iheart.com/content/2017-11- ... ged_social

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well we already knew Jerry was a greedy little piggy

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yeah, blitz was way better than Tecmo bowl
The latter was just the first playable football video game

did anyone ever play football on Atari 2600? You could literally run around to the other side of the screen with your players

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I hope Elliot's gonna be OK

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I honestly feel worse for Buffalo fans
Every year you get some glimmer of hope
then it all just goes to shit

At least with Cleveland by week 2 or 3, you just know you've got another bad year

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The Bills fans I know have no hope to begin with. They could be 8-0 and fans would still say "they'll find a way to screw it up"

I thought that was just Iggles fans
I guess losing 4 straight superbowls does things to you

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hey where is my share of the $$$ for being right about the giants vs. 49ers game?!

oh it wasn't money
i got a cupcake

we bet for food
The loser of the week has to bring snacks for everyone betting

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isn't this also due to game planning? once teams get a year of tape and off season, they can figure out better ways to neutralize players. And it seems Dak last year hasn't really changed from Dak this year. Conversely Goff is in a new offense that has nothing to do with Jeff Fischer, and pretty much every offensive weapon in Philly changed over for Wentz, so strategies likely don't carry over as well. Also Rams and Iggles defense are ridiculous this season. Dallas hasn't been able to recover from losing Lee

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I'm just saying, the Eagles totally neutralized his play action pass

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not to mention Dak is as old as he's ever been

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Shea, Geno Smith is your new starting QB, are you okay?

lol
I think McAdoo wanted to get fired really really bad
he's probably disappointed its taking so long

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i mean
it'd be like ending Favre's streak in 2007 because the Packers had Chris Weinke on a one year deal
its crazy

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Also, unpopular opinion but Eli isn't that great.

genosmithattemptingtospike.gif

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Eagles losing again
everything feels normal in the world
hopefully rest of life follows suit

I didn't pay 100% attention to the game, but that coaching felt so Andy Reidish in it failures

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agreed

their whole offense was basically Wilson runs around until Philly DB commits a penalty

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it's a shame "Most Valuable Player" doesn't really mean what the title means

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i would like to see Brady play behind the Seattle O-line though
just for shits and giggles

either way youre going to get a butthurt fanbase, so its a win win

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I have more of an archetype in mind than a specific person. I would like a head coach who is:

1) Analytics minded.
2) Not old and "traditional" NFL.
3) Has experience with both sides of the ball.
4) Is known for having a good rapport with the players.

I'm not wedded to all of these criteria, but I think if I were making some sort of a short list it would include:
Teryl Austin
John DeFillipo
Matt Patricia
Dave Toub

I'm sure the giants will just hire Spagnolo and call it a day though because thats what we do.

Sounds like you want to hire Chip Kelly to me

it's only fair


I have a feeling Patricia is just going to sit tight and hope to inheret New England when Bill retires

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ppl who don't like the raiders on some level have no soul!

There appears to be a misspelled "doot" in there, buddy.

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I think the Browns probably wanted Dorsey since he became available. While Brown did a good job of accumulating picks, I'm not sure he showed much skill at actual drafting and roster building

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man this Bills game

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I woke up and the Steelers are the first seed in the AFC.

wut

PA hype

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Pederson is horrible

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that was seriously ridiculous

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i don't even think they called the stupid rule correctly
The ball doesn't look to ever touch the turf to me

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If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

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and the ball moves FAR too much as it comes into contact.

ball can move across the end zone and back as long as it doesnt touch the ground
there is not a single shot of the ball touching the ground

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4th down false start penalty at the end of the eagles vs. giants game, causing a 10 second run-off of the clock

eagles should decline the penalty so that a.) they don't give the giants' offense more space to work with and, b.) they don't get the 10 second run-off which, if the giants end up scoring, the eagles would want more time on the clock

meh, I think it takes away the option of a run play

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I mean really, what the Eagles should be worried about is how the hell the Giants are even in that game. Offense did it's job and special teams repeatedly saved the day. But their secondary was horrendous against a team that has been struggling to do anything on offense all season because it has zero run game, a bad O-line and an entire group of second string WRs.

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from a coaching standpoint and advantage standpoint

- the super bowl is in Minnesota, so which do you think is better (General Yu!) ? :

a.) the Eagles get home field advantage through the playoffs

b.) the Eagles travel to Minnesota for the NFC Championship and get familiarity with 1.) the travel there, 2.) potential winter weather conditions, 3.) the facilities and overall stadium, 4.) a dominantly Minnesota biased crowd conditions which in turn prepares them for super-bowl conditions as far as noise+unfriendly territory, and all of those making it 5.) a harder test overall to further help the Eagles be more prepared for the SuperBowl

6) Eagles lose their first game of the playoffs anyway, so this is all pointless speculation

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Slightly increased chance of winning in Philly is better than a slightly decreased chance of losing in Minny

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but that is superceded by rule 1 which is
1) Patriots always get bullshit calls in their favor

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except it was player with possession of the ball was briefly in the end zone
you know, the definition of a touchdown

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There's no metaphorical "order of operations" per say.

but that is superceded by rule 1 which is
1) Patriots always get bullshit calls in their favor

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is it just me or are the Iggles for some reason running the ball less with Foles than with Wentz?
how does this make any sense? Is this just trying to get him reps or something

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Ah, I didn't realize the Eagles also lost their left guard
should be back for playoffs though

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So James Harrison is a Patriot.

Guess Pats are expecting the Chiefs

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I don't see how the Steelers overcome the biggest weapon the Patriots have when facing them. They certainly didn't have an answer last time.

Gronk or the refs?
Think this mostly comes down to AB's health and if Steelers' talent can overcome coaching differential

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I wouldnt be surprised. Jags have been terrible the last couple weeks and their rushing def isn't all that great really.
Depends on McCoy's recovery obv, and which Bortles shows up

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the bills are a really bad team that got obscenely lucky.

And thats not just, like, my opinion.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... s-century/

how much were their metrics changed by the Peterman start?
Granted you have to have a pretty stupid coaching staff/dysfunctional front office for that to occur. But 5 INTs into the second quarter has to hurt a lot of their stats.

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if you give up 5 ints, youre going to give up a lot more points

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Still that was some vintage Andy Reid and Kansas City postseason
I can see why he went there after Philly

Not sure what to think about Eagles facing Atlanta. Was pulling for Carolina. I don't think Philly has the talent to stop Jones and ATL defense was looking p good last night. Though Rams special teams really gave them a huge hole to climb out of.

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They have been passing the ball more often than they should.

left guard has been injured since Foles took over
he will be back for playoffs

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Still that was some vintage Andy Reid and Kansas City postseason
I can see why he went there after Philly

lol, just read that Hunt got all of 5 carries in the second half

that's so Andy

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yo so the patriots are gonna lose this week.

you have all been informed.

I mean last week was the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object problem. This week its more the unstoppable force vs. the small object on a frictionless plane

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NFC games were quite entertaining
Also really happy with the Iggles D holding Atlanta to 10 even with the turnovers
that is impressive

Really wondering how Minnesota v. Philly will work

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McAdoo interviewing in Cleveland
could there be a more perfect pairing?

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in OT you dont have to line up right?

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Anyone who saw the 10 point lead in the fourth and didn’t expect Brady to make a comeback must not have been tortured by us for the last two decades.

after Jax went three and out after the fumble, you just new it was happening

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so Iggles are exceeding expectations

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it ain't over till the clock hits 0

not really

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definitely after halftime when the eagles are down 20

Patriots SOP is to be down at the half, make adjustments and then win in the 4th quarter

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I had some horrible daydream wherein Foles repeated his performance and won Philly the Superbowl, but in the off season he was traded to the Patriots and became Brady 2.0 leading to 12 more years of dynasty

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I could see him competing to start in:
-Buffalo if Tyrod is out
-Arizona
-Washington (If Cousins is out)
-NY Jets
-Jacksonville
-Miami
-Cleveland
-Denver
-NY Giants (depending on what they do with Eli but even then)

If he goes to Oakland, it's strictly a backup gig or at least it should be.

New England when Brady retires after this ring

no way Brady retires unless Jimmy G goes back to New England, which he won't because SF will tag him

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I'm a Cowboys fan, but I'm rooting for the Eagles in the Super Bowl just like I rooted for the Giants twice.

Anti-Patriots sentiment trumps divisional rivalries.

as an eagles fan, I think a New England v Dallas Superbowl would just have me cheering for a meteor

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I'm a Cowboys fan, but I'm rooting for the Eagles in the Super Bowl just like I rooted for the Giants twice.

Anti-Patriots sentiment trumps divisional rivalries.

as an eagles fan, I think a New England v Dallas Superbowl would just have me cheering for a meteor

I'd root for the pats. Fuck the cowboys.

rocks fall everyone dies

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Shurmur seems like a decent hire
didn't he make the Browns not suck for a season or something like that?

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at first i was kinda sad that Smith was coming to the NFC East
then i saw Fuller traded and was feeling p good about it

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i had to stop watching as it seemed the Eagles D was imploded
then they didn't give up another score
sadface

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I'm so happy for Nick Foles

me too, I've been a fan of his since he was drafted and have known he's great

yeah was glad to see him get in his groove for the playoffs

I strangely think Brady should have been MVP though
the whole giving it to the winning team never made sense to me
dude have over 500 yards

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I had some horrible daydream wherein Foles repeated his performance and won Philly the Superbowl, but in the off season he was traded to the Patriots and became Brady 2.0 leading to 12 more years of dynasty

also
god i hope not

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Forgot to comment on Pederson. That was an amazing show of coaching I never expected when hearing he'd be coming to Philly.

In regards to Foles, he is clearly good with the right game plan and tools around him. These last string of games are not the only time he's played lights out. He had a down year after Chip Kelly shipped away all the talent on the roster. And look who else failed for the Rams under Fischer, Goff and Keenum. But there isn't any way the Eagles can keep both on the roster. I'm guessing they keep him around long enough to see if Wentz is fully recovered, then trade him mid season. Unless Wentz doesn't recover, or they want insurance for next year as most of the team is coming back.

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Collinsworth needs to never ever be near another superbowl.

He's bad enough regular season games fucking hell.

He was so bad.

Also, EAGLES!!!!!!!!!

^5

also, too
All hail the great Folololes!

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right, zero value

any football player will tell you it doesn't matter what their individual stats are if you don't win the game

DB can have 5 incredible interceptions but the value is null and void if the team doesn't win the game

that's stupid
any other QB and the Eagles run away with that game. Just look at the Minny game where their offense couldn't keep pace.

the only thing keeping the Pats going were Brady's fast releases to negate the Eagles' D-Line

I just think MVP should be renamed Best Player on the Winning Team trophy

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Also why aren't we discussing how dirty they did Malcolm Butler?
Can you imagine him riding the pine through that debacle, and by his coaches refusal to play they are just over and over saying "Do you see how bad this defense is? It's historically bad. But we think it would be even more bad if you were on the field"

That dude's gonna have a massive chip on his shoulder. I hope winds up in the AFC East so he can revenge on the Pats at least twice a year.

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God I hope he doesn't go to Cleveland, for his own sake
If he does, I hope he brings them a Superbowl too
Could you imagine one man bringing Superbowls to both Philly and Cleveland?

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look up for exact quotes but she told her crying children after the loss that it was okay because the eagles hadn't won in a million years and daddy won 5 times and sometimes you have to let others win and share with them

so she tried to console her children while teaching them about sharing?

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Difference between Foles and Brady in that game is that Foles caught his TD pass when Brady dropped his tbh

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I'm not ignoring 2013, I'm looking at his stats and that season looks like the outlier. I don't see any real reason to suggest that he'll consistently perform at that level. He did okay for Kansas City, sure, but he only started one game, so not a large sample size. I feel like the Rams Foles is what you're going to be getting here. This Eagles team he just won with is loaded with talent and a good coaching staff. The Browns are much more similar to the Rams in terms of what he'll be surrounded by. The Browns have been abysmal. He seems a lot like a Joe Flacco or Brad Johnson to me. With the right team and coaching staff he can do well enough to get them a super bowl, but no way do I see him being capable of singlehandedly carrying a team to the playoffs like that high of a draft pick would suggest.

All you have to do is look at Goff and Keenum on the Rams to realize it was a shit operation with a shit coach

On the other hand, 2013 Foles had so much luck on his side. Remember the failed interception for Atlanta because the DBs knee got in the way? That happened repeatedly in 2013, keeping his INTs artificially low. He was still ballin though.

I think you're going to get 2014 preinjury Foles. That's when a decent amount of talent was shipped out of Philly and you won't have Pederson game planning a totally different offensive strategy every week. Maybe not as predictable as Kelly in 14, but you won't get caught flat footed like the Vikings did.

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god i hate eagles fans

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Rice also admitted to cheating by using Stickum
so i guess he's a piece of shit too

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oh and how many times has Lane Johnson been tested positive for PEDs?

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http://www.newsweek.com/philadelphia-ch ... say-799421

wypipo

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what about that time phildelphia dropped an actual bomb on civil rights activists and killed 11 people?

yeah that was a tad worse i'd say

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jfc
now he's arguing in my inbox
very inanely I might add

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i thought this was supposed to be 'the year of the quarterback' for the last two or three years now

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what I mean is the last couple years people have been pointing to 2018 as the QB draft year

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except you wont be able to afford the rest of the team

it seems you either have to get a Brady discounted QB or win with a backup or QB on their rookie deal

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I loved the Mummer's gear
even though their kinda racist assholes and all
just quintessential Philly

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seems the Eagles coordinators are all getting poached
long as Schwartz and the OL coach stays, it should be ok

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Also, the best RB currently in the NFL was taken in the bottom half of the second round.

and the best QB was taken in the 6th

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Browns easily have the draft capital to trade up to 2 or 3 if they're worried about someone leapfrogging them

and pepole were "raving" (not really) about their offseasons because they were just hoarding picks. They weren't building a team

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theyre prob moving up further
this feels similar to Philly with the Wentz trade