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Post Post #11250 (isolation #600) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:53 pm

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Oh nvm, it was Aslan who was TRing Nero.
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Post Post #11260 (isolation #601) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:39 pm

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In post 11257, Nero Cain wrote:Nancy is scum
Gork is scum
Math is scum
Senpai is scum
RC is scum.
Did you just call Notice scum? Notice? The most obvtown player in this game? You really just called Notice scum?
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Post Post #11262 (isolation #602) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:44 pm

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So out of Maxous and Notice you're picking Notice as scum?
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Post Post #11265 (isolation #603) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:46 pm

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Which buzzwords? Obvtown? Lol. Answer the question, because I'm having a hard time believing you believe it.
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Post Post #11267 (isolation #604) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:48 pm

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In post 11263, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 11260, nancy wrote:Did you just call Notice scum? Notice? The most obvtown player in this game? You really just called Notice scum?
Even though you are scum I enjoy your use of throwing around buzzwords.
In post 11264, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 11262, nancy wrote:So out of Maxous and Notice you're picking Notice as scum?
yes. The only way I could see Max scum is if you are.
Oh, the cognitive dissonance is excruciating!

pedit we're not talking about me, we're talking about Notice. Tell me why they're scum.
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Post Post #11268 (isolation #605) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:50 pm

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I'm listening. This is your chance to convince me and everyone why Notice is scum.
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Post Post #11271 (isolation #606) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:01 pm

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No other reasons, though? Just that they "corroborated a lie"? They're not a girl, btw.

I'm obvtown because I've been the only Town doing any significant gamesolving for the past two days, Notice is obvtown because they AtE'd me into believing it.
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Post Post #11274 (isolation #607) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:06 pm

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RC go away I'm talking to Nero.
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Post Post #11276 (isolation #608) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:09 pm

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Your case so far on scum!Notice:

1. PoE
2. Corroborator of lies

Anything further to add?
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Post Post #11277 (isolation #609) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:09 pm

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Vecna has been spamming the game with walls, not gamesolving.
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Post Post #11278 (isolation #610) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:10 pm

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And Creature can't even come up with a readslist.
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Post Post #11280 (isolation #611) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:13 pm

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Your quote only displays lack of knowledge of my reads. It isn't your fault, they probably weren't public, I don't remember. Now, let's not get distracted. scum!Notice. You were saying?
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Post Post #11286 (isolation #612) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:24 pm

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It's mightily convenient, yes. O, all the towncred that I needed so badly but didn't have because I wasn't TRing the person who got quicklynched!

C'mon, don't you want to sell this scumread to everyone? I'm right here, listening to you openly. Who's going to follow you if you don't sell it? Here's their ISO, dig in and show us where scum!Notice lives: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=70415&user_select[]=29415
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Post Post #11288 (isolation #613) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:47 pm

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Please, Nero? Just 1 scumpost. How about that? If they're scum I'm sure you'll be able to find something in there. You're a good scumhunter after all, aren't you?
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Post Post #11290 (isolation #614) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:01 am

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I'm not mocking dude. I'm trying to be encouraging. I want to see if your SR is legit.
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Post Post #11316 (isolation #615) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:43 am

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In post 11305, Vecna wrote:
In post 11239, nancy wrote:
In post 11233, davesaz wrote:I must be in your must live pile. I even have a feeling that Creature and Maxous are the same alignment. It would be odd if they weren't.
If Maxous is Town then Caesar and Vecna are scum.
What makes you say stuff like this?
PoE.
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Post Post #11354 (isolation #616) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:27 am

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In post 11317, Vecna wrote:How can PoE be used to go from 1 townread to two scumreads? Explain it to me.
Reads-based PoE, I have slots that I'm confident in my reads on and slots that I'm not.

In post 11318, Vecna wrote:As in, you say if 1 slot (maxous) isnt scum....then two others have to be?

Also please answer my other question. What game did you read of mine to conclude im more easy going as town?
Several games, but it's mostly irrelevant.
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Post Post #11355 (isolation #617) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:28 am

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In post 11342, MathBlade wrote:I think you and I are the only ones that scumread Nero and I gotta go.
I've been scumreading Nero since I replaced into the game :P
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Post Post #11356 (isolation #618) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:29 am

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In post 11353, Maxous wrote:
In post 11347, RadiantCowbells wrote:Max what's your read on Nero?
I was strongly town-reading in the early days, plus that read was backed up by Pine's confident meta read on Nero.

My read on him has been starting to sour though, idk.
His meta on Nero is clearly outdated.
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Post Post #11500 (isolation #619) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:05 pm

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VOTE: Leonshade
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Post Post #11522 (isolation #620) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:19 pm

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Sorry for being nasty all this time Nero, I thought you were scum and it was all in the spirit of the game.
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Post Post #11524 (isolation #621) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:24 pm

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I already explained that I thought the lynch happened while I was asleep because I didn't check it until late, Notice. It wasn't a lie, I just didn't look at time stamps.
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Post Post #11526 (isolation #622) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:34 pm

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I'm sorry, I didn't think I was stressing it. I was just trying to helpful with a gentle reminder to all.
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Post Post #11555 (isolation #623) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:46 pm

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Instead of being all over the place we should all be in one place and lynch Leonshade.
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Post Post #11560 (isolation #624) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:49 pm

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Nero's AtE was blatantly Town, Leonshade jump onto the wagon was blatant scumping.
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Post Post #11563 (isolation #625) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:50 pm

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Nah Cloud is Town too from his reactions to Nero's meltdown.
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Post Post #11573 (isolation #626) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:57 pm

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Wanna hear something funny LUV? Something I honestly never thought I'd hear myself say this game or possibly ever.
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Post Post #11575 (isolation #627) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:58 pm

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You're my top TR :P
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LOL a pagetop, how fitting.
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Post Post #11581 (isolation #629) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:01 pm

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I didn't call you scum lol
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Post Post #11584 (isolation #630) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:03 pm

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Please don't be insulted, you'll always be my big fav regardless of the gamestate
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Post Post #11587 (isolation #631) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:05 pm

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Oh I meant to apologize for telling you to go away yesterday when I was talking to Nero. I didn't mean to be rude I just didn't want the conversation to be interrupted. Of course that whole exchange is moot, now.
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Post Post #11591 (isolation #632) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:09 pm

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Don't worry we have docs, you won't get NKed.
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Post Post #11592 (isolation #633) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:11 pm

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Leonshade had a few REAAAALLY sketchy votes Day 1 on top of the way he hopped on Sondam's wagon, on top of the way he hopped on Nero's wagon. He be scum. I am as confident about this as I have ever been about any lynch in my life.
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Post Post #11596 (isolation #634) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:13 pm

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Nero's Town RC, your read is off on this I promise. If I'm wrong I will sheep you blindly for the rest of the game, that's how confident I am.

pedit Nero won't flip scum, the game is solved when Leonshade flips scum.
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Post Post #11597 (isolation #635) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:14 pm

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Vecna help me save Nero and push the Leonshade wagon.
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Post Post #11600 (isolation #636) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:15 pm

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In post 11598, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Like I'm trying to figure out why we can't do a mutual scum read. You're acting like Nero's flip here makes everything suddenly clear.
Was this @me?
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Post Post #11608 (isolation #637) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:22 pm

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Venca first of all I'm townreading you so I already decided the tonal difference is irrelevant (you're more forceful and rigid with your tone here whereas in those games you seemed more chilled out, I guess because you're assuming the role of Town leader), second of all there is a result that indicates that Maxous and Creature share alignments, third I read Death Note and Code Geass.
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Post Post #11611 (isolation #638) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:27 pm

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Is that a dare? :P
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Post Post #11613 (isolation #639) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:28 pm

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Nero is a mislynch. Leonshade is scum. We lynch the scum. It's simple. Join us on the scum lynch RC.
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Post Post #11617 (isolation #640) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:32 pm

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The way he suddenly came out just to suck up to RC and vote Nero was so beetlejuicey and sketchy and now he's vanished again.
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Post Post #11620 (isolation #641) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:34 pm

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Stop what?
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Post Post #11621 (isolation #642) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:35 pm

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I don't want another mislynch.
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Post Post #11625 (isolation #643) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:43 pm

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LUV I wish I could help you fix your reads :/

pedit I voted ABR when I had just replaced in and no idea what was going on, that was my bad and I own the decision but I was operating on very limited information. Things are different now.
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Matter of fact I've had little idea what was going on this game until today.

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Post Post #11633 (isolation #645) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:48 pm

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He's having a bad game.
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Post Post #11638 (isolation #646) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:53 pm

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I find it very difficult to read LUV, I was TRing him after he explained his reads to me but it wasn't until his exchange with Nero that he jumped to the top.
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Post Post #11642 (isolation #647) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:59 pm

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In post 11639, Vecna wrote:
In post 11597, nancy wrote:Vecna help me save Nero and push the Leonshade wagon.
Not quite sure I want to, yet. Im rather intrigued by these recent devellopments.
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Post Post #11651 (isolation #648) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:08 pm

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Nero isn't flipping scum, we aren't lynching Nero end of story. Vecna you've been TRing Nero all game don't let that change now.
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Post Post #11653 (isolation #649) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:09 pm

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Just read the meltdown he had after that push. There's no way that comes from scum.

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Post Post #11655 (isolation #650) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:11 pm

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RC I've been working super hard for like three days now on this game and I'm 100% positive that lynching Leonshade here is the play. Let me do this. You've powerlynched enough things in your time, let me have this one. Leonshade is scum and if I'm wrong I will sheep you for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #11662 (isolation #651) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:18 pm

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It's ludicrous yes but scum are far from desperate in this game. They don't need to do anything to widen the mislynch pool.
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Post Post #11666 (isolation #652) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:23 pm

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Don't forget I was trying to kill him too (before I wised up) :P
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Post Post #11671 (isolation #653) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:29 pm

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In post 11668, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 11664, Vecna wrote:Also, im just going to put this forward; I could still see a minor connection between Nancy and Nero - where Nero has been hardbussing but is now getting protected by her.

Talking about ludicrous ideas, amirite?
I'm not going to lie I'm considering it.
What happened to "grok an SR from someone who didn't understand me" :P
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Post Post #11673 (isolation #654) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:51 pm

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<3

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Post Post #11712 (isolation #655) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:22 am

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Leonshade your case on Nero is contrived, you aren't scumhunting you're just trying to find fault with his play and manipulate it into a scumread. I don't buy that you forgot why you were townleaning Nero. I don't buy any of your stances. You haven't been evaluating anything in this game with the slightest degree of genuine thought.
In post 11686, Leonshade wrote:I don't think you've been scumhunting, I think you've been throwing shade at poorly/weirdly playing townies.
Most of Nero's aggression has been directed towards the most widely read players so saying that he's attacking slots playing poorly is just factually incorrect.

Nero's play has not been great by any means but his exchange with you at least actually displays the desire to analyze what is going on rather than push a narrative.
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Post Post #11723 (isolation #656) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:29 am

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He's trying to scumhunt he's just doing a poor job of it.

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Post Post #11728 (isolation #657) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:32 am

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In post 11725, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 11723, nancy wrote:Math is TRing me.
maybe now but not always
Yeah he started TRing me today I think. My play has been progressively more obvtown as the game has gone along I suppose.
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Post Post #11736 (isolation #658) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:37 am

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I don't think there's much Town discord at the moment to be honest. Aside from Nero and LUV thinking I'm scum, we're running a fairly tight ship today.
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Post Post #11738 (isolation #659) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:38 am

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@KidAmn already did that :P
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Post Post #11740 (isolation #660) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:39 am

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Oh Aslan also thinks I'm scum. Meh.
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Post Post #11747 (isolation #661) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:47 am

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Why would you lock me as Town for the rest of the game simply because of a replace out? That doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #11748 (isolation #662) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:48 am

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In post 11745, Leonshade wrote:Even if all my other reasons for scumreading Nero are shit, Nero's reactions today have been scummy as hell.
They've seemed pretty townie to me.
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Post Post #11751 (isolation #663) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:54 am

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People have mentioned Spiffeh's play as a reason why they're TRing me, the replace out being one part of that, but not as the sole reason to deadlock me as Town.
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Post Post #11756 (isolation #664) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:07 am

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Agree on Spiffeh's pushes. I'm fine with you SRing me as long as we hang scum.

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Post Post #11763 (isolation #665) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:16 am

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Vecna Gorkington is very likely a mislynch.
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Post Post #11764 (isolation #666) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:18 am

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Eh, it might not be I don't fucking know anymore about that slot but I do know that Leonshade will flip red.
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Post Post #11766 (isolation #667) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:18 am

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And when it does I'll have solved the game.
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Post Post #11770 (isolation #668) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:20 am

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Nero I didn't say that Fro99er's reads where the sole reason he died. I went back to look at his reads simply as an exercise to see how my reads compared with his. If a Town leader is leading Town in all the wrong directions them scum aren't as likely to kill him. It would potentially follow them that his reads may have been on-point at least to some degree.
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Post Post #11775 (isolation #669) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:22 am

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In post 11769, Nero Cain wrote:Nancy why not just tell us why Gork is a mislynch instead of just repeating "Gork is a mislynch." Why?
Because I'm reading him as Town and a couple of other things that would not be pro-town to mention right now.
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Post Post #11785 (isolation #670) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:29 am

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In post 11779, Nero Cain wrote:
but Gork isn't pushing me or even posting in this game. He lurks and lurks comes in and lays down some posts and goes back to lurking. As bad as Leon is I still feel like he's a Gork counterwagon, idk.
Talk about this more?
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Post Post #11786 (isolation #671) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:30 am

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Hmmmm.
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Post Post #11790 (isolation #672) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:31 am

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In post 11783, Vecna wrote:It might be the case Nero - im finding this a difficult decision.
Me too.
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Post Post #11793 (isolation #673) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:32 am

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In post 11787, Vecna wrote:Nancy, a question for you - do you feel it indeed has been Jaereed posting only? Id really like him to use my olive branch and start enjoying and posting this game.
They/them pronouns. 100% JaeReed is the only poster except for that one post mastina made saying hi to Gin.
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Post Post #11804 (isolation #674) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:37 am

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OK semi-full disclosure the reason I think Gork might be a mislynch is because I'm scumreading Maxous strongly and there's a result that Maxous and Creature are the same alignment. Creature came out with the roleblock on Gork and people piled on his wagon. The entire wagon is Town by my reads except Leonshade. It looks like Town lynching Town to me. The Leonshade wagon only popped up only after I WKed the fuck out of the Gork wagon, so I don't think it was actually a counter.
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Post Post #11810 (isolation #675) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:39 am

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In post 11794, Vecna wrote:At any rate I feel like I want to lynch in those two a hell of a lot more than Nero atm.
I am not going to let Nero get lynched if I have anything to say about it.
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Post Post #11814 (isolation #676) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:40 am

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In post 11811, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 11804, nancy wrote:I'm scumreading Maxous strongly and there's a result that Maxous and Creature are the same alignment.
confirm that you are chichen itza.
Not me.
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Post Post #11830 (isolation #677) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:48 am

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Maxous is my highest preference lynch today as I stated earlier but I doubt we get the support for it.
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Post Post #11831 (isolation #678) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:49 am

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In post 11828, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:We need to actually get something out of Ceasar before ending the day here.
Caesar is heavily occupied by RL and is also overgamed.
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Post Post #11833 (isolation #679) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:49 am

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Even moreso :P
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Post Post #11851 (isolation #680) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:57 am

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Aslan buddies and sheeps a lot as either alignment. It's NAI for them.

We have time Vecna but RC is tunneled on Nero.
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Post Post #11857 (isolation #681) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:59 am

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Don't stress it Cloud he thinks I'm scum too.

Heck even I thought you were scum for a bit there. (Oh because you didn't meta defend davesaz when I knew you could have, that was why btw.)
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Post Post #11865 (isolation #682) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:00 am

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My bad I thought you were familiar with his meta for some reason.
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Post Post #11867 (isolation #683) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:02 am

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^ Same.
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Post Post #11871 (isolation #684) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:09 am

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I would follow all 3 of you into the darkness btw.
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CK I would follow you into the dusk and probs no further :P
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Post Post #11878 (isolation #686) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:26 am

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Yeah, I was looking for scum in the wrong places. I'm confident that I have at least 3/5 scum though right now and the remaining 2 are in a limited PoE so my reads feel very secure for the first time in this game. You're locktown. If that ever changes consider it a scumclaim.
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You were provoking me and I wasn't sure on my scumpool so I basically just OMGUS scumread you.
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The past 15 or so pages have provided amazing clarity to this whole game. Town synergy is fucking amazing. If we win this it'll be because of those pages.

You don't think I'm honest? Why rolling eyes?
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Post Post #11887 (isolation #690) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:40 am

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Original Town read on you was just sheeping Caesar. Then other of my TRs were TRing you so I sheeped them. Without the sheeping I was mostly scumreading you since replace in until just earlier.
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Post Post #11890 (isolation #691) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:41 am

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Don't think it's been any secret that my reads have been all over the place this game :P

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Post Post #11895 (isolation #692) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:44 am

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Nero is Town. Math if you are Town check your conf!bias and reset.
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Post Post #11899 (isolation #693) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:48 am

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His response to being lynched was completely Town and that's what made me realize I was wrong. He's just had not the best game so far. You're reading anti-town as scum but it's not scum it's 100% Town on my life.
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Post Post #11901 (isolation #694) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:49 am

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Also look for his exchange with LUV shortly after that. They are both 100% obvious Town there.
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Post Post #11904 (isolation #695) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:51 am

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The AtE, the wild panic, the way he threw himself at everything as if it were his last gasp, it just doesn't come from scum the way he did it.
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Post Post #11908 (isolation #696) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:54 am

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The way that Creature didn't want to have anything to do with the Gork lynch after instigating it tells me it's a mislynch.
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Post Post #11910 (isolation #697) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:54 am

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VOTE: Maxous
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Post Post #11912 (isolation #698) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:56 am

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In post 11907, Vecna wrote:
In post 11904, nancy wrote:The AtE, the wild panic, the way he threw himself at everything as if it were his last gasp, it just doesn't come from scum the way he did it.
Hmmm dont be -too certain- of this quite yet, I could see Nero fake this. I think its not what happened, but it could be what happened.
Scum faking it looks different. And everything since then has just reinforced the read.
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Post Post #11919 (isolation #699) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:59 am

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In post 11913, MathBlade wrote:
In post 11904, nancy wrote:The AtE, the wild panic, the way he threw himself at everything as if it were his last gasp, it just doesn't come from scum the way he did it.
He did the same in gunslingers. Kept trying to make Titus scum.
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Post Post #11925 (isolation #700) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:01 am

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Maxous is anything but memorable this game.
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Post Post #11931 (isolation #701) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:03 am

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In post 11920, Leonshade wrote:The result confirmed Maxous as town, not Creature as scum.

If you scumread me, lynch me today. It'll show how ass-backwards your reads are.
Supposing you were Town, that is literally the worst possible response you could ever have.
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Post Post #11956 (isolation #702) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:13 am

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In post 11939, MathBlade wrote:viewtopic.php?f=53&t=66474&user_select[]=12589

Nero's ISO in gunslingers. He literally throws anything to the wall to see what sticks while scumreading his buddy then keeps trying that. Same thing is going on here IMHO.
Not at all similar.
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Post Post #11960 (isolation #703) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:16 am

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In post 11947, Vecna wrote:
In post 11654, Vecna wrote:Townblock:

Vecna
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Potentially to give invites to Jaereed and RC.


Scumteam Option 1:
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Scumteam Option 2:
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Floaters:
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Nancy, given recent devellopments - how do you feel about these ideas I floated earlier? Can you see my reasoning here of two potential scumteams? Are you seeing the same global outlines of two different teams?

Try and mix in your own reads and see where we get with this? Maybe we can find the ideal lynch for the day that gives us a ton of guidelines for lynches going further, regardless if its a town or scum flip.
Option 1 is closest to my reads. I don't think Option 2 is remotely likely.
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Post Post #11963 (isolation #704) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:20 am

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I disagree that Creature is obvtown.
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Post Post #11970 (isolation #705) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:25 am

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I'll believe scum!Nero when I see it flip red.
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Post Post #11981 (isolation #706) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:37 am

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Going to bed. Catch you tomorrow.

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Post Post #12003 (isolation #707) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:59 am

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In post 11983, MathBlade wrote:
In post 11981, nancy wrote:Going to bed. Catch you tomorrow.

VOTE: Leonshade
Yeah nancy why did you draw scums? I has sads :(
You has conf!bias :(

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Post Post #12006 (isolation #708) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:01 am

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OK actually going to bed now.
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Post Post #12037 (isolation #709) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 12025, Creature wrote:ffs players

Leonshade is like one of my strongest reads.
You're TRing him?
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Post Post #12038 (isolation #710) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:47 am

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Post Post #12039 (isolation #711) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:51 am

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Gork, stop voting Vecna.
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Post Post #12044 (isolation #712) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:02 am

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He's only bringing it back to you and Leon because those are the two wagons he sees on the table.
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Post Post #12045 (isolation #713) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:05 am

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In no world is davesaz scum.
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Post Post #12049 (isolation #714) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:08 am

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Voting him isn't exactly going to help change his mind. Unless you just think he's scum.
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Post Post #12052 (isolation #715) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:11 am

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Is that a meta read?
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Post Post #12056 (isolation #716) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:25 am

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Post Post #12059 (isolation #717) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:43 am

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Lol.
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Post Post #12060 (isolation #718) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:44 am

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Are we really going to do this RC?
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Post Post #12063 (isolation #719) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:47 am

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Not how I see it.
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Post Post #12066 (isolation #720) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:48 am

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The wagon wasn't alive long enough to take any other votes.
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Post Post #12124 (isolation #721) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:53 pm

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Isn't it interesting that as soon as I figured out what was going on and started pushing on it everyone started being active again.

RC, we're supposed to be dancing. You're just being clumsy right now.
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Post Post #12125 (isolation #722) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:11 pm

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Oh well, since you ruined the fun I'll just join in.

This is RC's scum game. This is how I knew Nero wasn't scum. And all of the people RC had on his list of people to kill. Convenient that his lynchpool had 2 of the names that were in my pool, but left Maxous out. Convenient that Leonshade, Creature, and RC all have pretty much identical scumpools. No one is going to believe your push, RC. You're transparently trying to lynch the only slot in this game capable of beating you. You entered the game threatening to lynch anyone voting me and repeatedly said that I was obvtown until it became clear that I wasn't going to play ball and let you lynch Nero. Everything about you here is fake, RC. You've lost. Even if you lynch me here, you've lost.

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Post Post #12151 (isolation #723) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:36 pm

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Davesaz is essentially conftown. Maxous and Creature share alignment. RC doesn't do cases as either alignment. He "checks out" as scum. I can read RC better than nearly anyone on site. He's just waiting to read the room right now.

{RC, Leonshade, Creature, Maxous} are all scum.
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Post Post #12562 (isolation #724) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 12154, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:jesus fucking christ CREATURE IS NOT SCUM

please nancy if you're town
listen to me
. No one did on Sondam and no one did when I thought beeboy could be town so please just listen to me and never lynch Creature. No one listened in HoH either when I called Alisae and TOWN LOST BECAUSE OF IT
While I respect your read on Creature I don't feel comfortable reading someone as Town purely because of meta that may or may not be outdated. Creature has done things in this game that do not read to me as Town therefore my read on him is ambivalent and if the parity result is real my scumread of Maxous is strong enough to overrule the weak read I have on Creature. That aside, if Creature isn't scum then this game is multiball and Maxous and davesaz are on separate scum teams. We're going to find out one way or the other with tomorrow's results.

In post 12240, Creature wrote:What is town nancy?
nancy.

In post 12343, MathBlade wrote:Fuck the green I can't read shit...But either way if you have Yuri scum nancy HAS to be there.
Not how partner interactions work.

In post 12385, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No reason for RC to come out the way he did when his slot was widely town read. Like why? Why does he not coast and fake death tunnel here as scum?
RC doesn't coast.

In post 12518, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am not responsible for idiocy. And I can't share this till postgame but I pmed Nahdia a readslist on the latter half of D1 calling ABR and Sondam slots as locktown along with Titus and Yume hydra.

If you are town Vecna you can get out of my way and let me do things or I will lynch you and not care about the result. Decision's yours.
Why did you try to lynch me?

In post 12527, RadiantCowbells wrote:He is playing like he usually does as town, and while my only experience with him as scum is as Cheetory this isn't at all like that. Scum!Cheeto was a useless lurksack and didn't really do anything. He's doing things this game. Also the fact that in the Leon/Gorkington duelling wagons most of the scum votes were on Gorkington and scum haven't been bussing and Gorkington has not played like scum who is being bussed.
I know who Yuri is and I know you know who Yuri is so why does your read on Yuri not factor into this?
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So you're TRing me, Aslan?
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If I'm scum your reaction makes no sense.
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Post Post #12571 (isolation #727) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:24 pm

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Anyone who genuinely thinks I'm scum this game is SERIOUSLY overestimating my skill at mafia.
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Post Post #12578 (isolation #728) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:38 pm

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RC if you're Town there are four things you from you to convince me of it. My read on you is not fake. This is not 1875. I am townreading some of your recent content but you scumtold hard after you replaced in. I never called you 100% scum, I said I recognized your scumgame. I was TRing your slot on replace in even though Brian's Towngame is more powerful (explainable by disinterest). It isn't conf!bias.

1. Stop dropping RC scumtells
2. Explain to me why Leonshade responded to your replace in the way he did because that was scum central
3. Tell me why you tried to lynch me
4. Explain your scumreads and tell me why you're ignoring Yuri's content in your read of KidAmn

PLEASE RC. IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU ARE WHAT THIS GAME NEEDED BUT I AM SCUMREADING YOU SO IF YOU ARE TOWN THEN BE A GOOD BOY AND HELP POOR NANCY SEE IT.
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In post 12579, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't townread Yuri. Let's start with why I should townread them?
Didn't say you should.

In post 12585, RadiantCowbells wrote:also what are these rc scumtells that you speak of cuz like if you're scumreading me in this particular game I think that you're tells are absolute crap
Only 1 of them is mine and I'll talk to you about it post-game privately regardless of your alignment here.


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In post 12589, RadiantCowbells wrote:Is it really so different from the way you reacted to my replace in?
Yes. I was already scumreading Nero at that point and Brian was like a townlean.
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Post Post #12596 (isolation #731) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:15 pm

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Who else is scum besides Nero and KidAmn and why?

pedit OK. But you should know by now that I always overcompensate.
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Post Post #12597 (isolation #732) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:17 pm

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I've had KidAmn as Town essentially by PoE. I don't have a functional read on the slot. When I read Yuri early game it looks like scum. I lose my confidence in the read the more I dive the ISO.
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Post Post #12601 (isolation #733) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:25 pm

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Post Post #12606 (isolation #734) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:28 pm

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That's just.. yum BUT HE'S NOT KISSING ANOTHER BOY SOOOO....

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Post Post #12608 (isolation #735) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:29 pm

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Actually he's not even cute what am I saying.
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Post Post #12610 (isolation #736) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:31 pm

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In post 12600, RadiantCowbells wrote:I stand by the fact that scum!Drixx would never have pulled what he did in this game and that anyone who knows him would know that.
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Post Post #12612 (isolation #737) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:33 pm

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In post 12609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Lol first girl to say that
I mean I'm gay soooo.. but also am racist I don't like white people xP
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Post Post #12613 (isolation #738) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:34 pm

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In post 12607, Vecna wrote:And if Gorkington -is- scum he's the one with the janitor ability.
Huh?
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Post Post #12616 (isolation #739) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:37 pm

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In post 12604, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:So I don't think everyone is going to answer but that's fine. I don't think town would neigborize The DEO and the small sample size I've gathered either points to:

Alisae scum
Alisae and Math scum
Alisae in over his head

I don't believe the last one.
What's your reasoning here? You're saying Aslan is scum?
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Post Post #12617 (isolation #740) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:38 pm

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In post 12614, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Lmao aren't you Italian?
Location: Italy doesn't mean I'm Italian ;)
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Post Post #12621 (isolation #741) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:43 pm

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Fro99er is an objectively bad hood choice and I'd have hooded Titus 100% if I were TRing them.
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Post Post #12629 (isolation #742) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:53 pm

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Oh right. Well why don't you ask Aslan why they hooded DEO?

pedit doesn't Aslan know Math really well?
peditx2 Caesar is the opposite of a weird choice for Aslan.
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Post Post #12630 (isolation #743) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:54 pm

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In post 12625, Vecna wrote:Wagon responses today;

Gorkington; FU ALL, let me townpost and try to salvage my slot and fuck up this vecna scrub in the process
Nero; Boohoo, selfvote - followed by a lot of posting of varying quality (some of which I thought was pretty indicative of town)
Leonshade; Boohoo, im so demotivated, I have no defence except that I dont care about solving the mess that I was a part of creating
Kidamn; Boohoo, too much posting, go ahead and lynch me.

yeah.....
Don't forget nancy: RRRRRRRFGHHHHHH I WILL POWERLYNCH YOU SCUM
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Post Post #12636 (isolation #744) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:04 pm

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The picks make perfect sense from town!Aslan to me tbh and I TR all of them.
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Post Post #12638 (isolation #745) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:06 pm

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Then you don't know Aslan's relationship with Pine :P
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Post Post #12640 (isolation #746) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:11 pm

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They're close as baby kittens.

Tbh I'm kind of tempted to compete for the IC with Pine just because there are so many Town SRing me for god knows why and if Town could just stop SRing Town we might actually lynch scum in this game.
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Post Post #12643 (isolation #747) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:19 pm

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I guess. Just feels weird that anyone is actually SRing him in the first place.
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Post Post #12644 (isolation #748) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:21 pm

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Oh yeah Vecna is trying to PL him I forgot.
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Post Post #12645 (isolation #749) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:22 pm

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Meh it sucks that he found the flavor tiring in the end, I thought he was having a lot of fun with it.
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Post Post #12659 (isolation #750) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:06 am

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Leon that readslist is honestly abysmal and I think you can do better.
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Post Post #12753 (isolation #751) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:51 am

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In post 12695, Creature wrote:Then nancy questions why she's being ignored.
I'm not being ignored at all so remind me when I questioned it? Lol. Not even a good attempt at shading.

In post 12718, RadiantCowbells wrote:leon flips town we gain virtually nothing from it and are stuck where we are today but at least it's going to be a lot easier to powerlynch nero
leon flips scum he could still be scum with Nero given nothing in their associatives prevents that but there wouldn't really be a way to get Nero lynched short of a guilty and town probably loses
No regardless of flip lynching Leonshade should bring us within reach of solving the game.

In post 12731, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Nero we're not lynching RC lol. There will never be enough support for him.
Naw if I wanted RC to be lynched he'd be lynched. (<3 RC)

In post 12610, nancy wrote:
In post 12600, RadiantCowbells wrote:I stand by the fact that scum!Drixx would never have pulled what he did in this game and that anyone who knows him would know that.
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Post Post #12758 (isolation #752) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:55 am

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Well, there's a caveat to that naturally, being that if he were scum I wouldn't have a snowball's chance of lynching him.

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Post Post #12760 (isolation #753) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:55 am

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Answer the damn question please hon.
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Post Post #12765 (isolation #754) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:04 am

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So then the issue is that people have been gunning for Leonshade for so long that there's really no way of pulling people off the wagon.
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Post Post #12769 (isolation #755) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:10 am

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No. I'm saying that I think you are Town and therefore that I think Leonshade is Town but that I don't think we have a good chance of lynching someone else because people are tunneled. I am only saying that I am aware of the problem.
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Post Post #12771 (isolation #756) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:11 am

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People were spooked off that by Leonshade I don't think it's gonna happen.
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Post Post #12775 (isolation #757) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:07 pm

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So can anyone tell me why I'm supposed to be TRing Creature aside from the fact that he hasn't been lurking all game?
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Post Post #12778 (isolation #758) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:26 pm

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Post Post #12786 (isolation #759) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:14 pm

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In post 12779, Maxous wrote:
In post 12775, nancy wrote:So can anyone tell me why I'm supposed to be TRing Creature aside from the fact that he hasn't been lurking all game?
me and creature were cop investigated

this was pointed out
Have you not been reading the thread
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Post Post #12791 (isolation #760) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:18 pm

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RC where did you go

I wanna lynch scums
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Post Post #12792 (isolation #761) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:18 pm

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In post 12789, MathBlade wrote:
In post 12777, Vecna wrote:Nancy, Nero, and one from the KidAmn wagon: Its hammer time. Hammer leonshade.

Go.
Don't even think about it. Leonshade is town.
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Post Post #12793 (isolation #762) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 12784, Maxous wrote:
In post 12724, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 12722, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Lot of ways to take this honestly. I do think that if we mislynch today though we lose.
Then let's vote the person who is most likely to flip scum, which is Nero
@CAESER WILLS IT:
do you still bank on Nero being town?
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Post Post #12798 (isolation #763) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:10 pm

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I'd rather lynch CK.
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Post Post #12799 (isolation #764) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:13 pm

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VOTE: CK
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Post Post #12804 (isolation #765) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:38 pm

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Welp. None of the wagons I want are happening so.

VOTE: Leonshade
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Post Post #12815 (isolation #766) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:14 pm

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How the fuck do I have six scumreads what even is this game.
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Post Post #12816 (isolation #767) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:14 pm

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IS EVERYONE IN THIS GODDAMN GAME SCUM EXCEPT ME?????????????????????????????????????????
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Post Post #12819 (isolation #768) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:31 pm

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davesaz should just be on whomever he likes.

I mean my scumreads are kind of irrelevant at this point in the day because Leonshade is clearly the only lynch that is happening.
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Post Post #12821 (isolation #769) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:34 pm

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My Yuri TR?

How is compromising on an SR sketchy?
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Post Post #12823 (isolation #770) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:40 pm

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Oh you're SRing Vecna
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Post Post #12826 (isolation #771) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:44 pm

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You said that Sondam was the "best lynch", actually, and that was a flashwagon when deadline did not necessitate a flashwagon so no I don't understand why you voted Sondam :P
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Post Post #12828 (isolation #772) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:47 pm

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In post 9807, Leonshade wrote:VOTE: Sondam

There won't be a better lynch today.
Sorry, not quite "best lynch", but yes, entirely different type of vote and entirely different context.
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Post Post #12888 (isolation #773) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:11 am

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In post 12883, MathBlade wrote:That is actually the best time to cop me because then when I die it acts as a traditional cop on the other player.
No one wants to kill town!Math. Regardless of the disincentive due to your wonder claim in this game, you will always be pocketed by scum due to your tendency to tunnel Town.
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Post Post #12892 (isolation #774) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:30 am

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In post 12882, Vecna wrote:
In post 12870, Nero Cain wrote:I have way more than 5 scumreads

Ali
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If you cross Math and Nancy off here, I think you might be eerily close.

Either that or creature + maxous replace any 2 here, but I do feel this could definitely be the scumteam.
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Post Post #12893 (isolation #775) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:31 am

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In post 12891, Nero Cain wrote:IDK. Like its
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That's a pretty simplistic version of what went on.
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Post Post #12894 (isolation #776) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:32 am

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In post 12879, Leonshade wrote:If you're a townplayer that isn't actively scumreading me, I recommend learning from my mistakes. Wait to see who will hammer instead of rushing to end the day. I'm getting lynched here 100%, so squeeze every drop of info out of it.
This is scumposting btw.
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Post Post #12897 (isolation #777) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:38 am

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In post 12895, Nero Cain wrote:like my wagon was donkey dick.

Alisae-sheeping RC
MathBlade-I am playing like a scum game from a year ago.
Leonshade-I suddenly stopped scumhunting and started arguing/sheeping RC.
RadiantCowbells-no reason
nancy-omgus scum reading me

like I could easily buy that the whole team wasn't sheeping me but its hard for me to pick out who are the bad townies and who are the opportunistic scum.
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Post Post #12900 (isolation #778) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:55 am

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My ISO contains all the answers, O Burner of Rome.

If you can't bear to read it, it went something like: replace in -> instant Nero SR -> Caesar telling me my read is bad -> sheep Caesar's TR -> bouncing back and forth between SRing you and being told my read was bad -> eventually my reads solidified to the point that I stopped sheeping anyone and decided that your antagonism made no sense from Town therefore SR -> .... -> AtE flip-out = Town.

I am currently voting Leonshade.
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Post Post #12903 (isolation #779) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:01 am

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I started SRing Aslan because their reads were godawful and they were behaving scummily and not doing anything at all and I started getting paranoid about Notice but then I recovered from my paranoia and also decided that Aslan was just being Aslan.
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Post Post #12905 (isolation #780) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:06 am

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I think this game is 517 pages long.
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Post Post #12970 (isolation #781) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:28 am

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VOTE: KidAmn
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Post Post #12979 (isolation #782) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:32 am

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In post 12972, Leonshade wrote:
In post 12970, nancy wrote:VOTE: KidAmn
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Post Post #12983 (isolation #783) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:35 am

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Aslan you be scums?
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Post Post #12988 (isolation #784) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:36 am

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OK just checking.
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Post Post #12993 (isolation #785) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:38 am

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Yeah me too.

Oh wait I don't bus looool
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Post Post #13016 (isolation #786) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:45 am

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I'm voting scum. Come join me.
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Post Post #13018 (isolation #787) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:52 am

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It'll happen soon. Scum just don't want to bus Leon because there's not a fake guilty on him.
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Post Post #13021 (isolation #788) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:57 pm

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I want someone else to hammer though.
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Post Post #13023 (isolation #789) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:00 pm

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Also there's a (very slim) chance that I may die tonight so I'm going to post my final reads after hammer. No WIFOM involved due to the off chance I do get killed.

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Post Post #13025 (isolation #790) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:28 pm

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So no one else wants to hang KidAmn..?
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Post Post #13029 (isolation #791) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:33 pm

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It's intentional, Math. They aren't able to reach a computer atm.
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Post Post #13031 (isolation #792) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:36 pm

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Nero and Vecna aren't getting hung on my watch.
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Post Post #13037 (isolation #793) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:33 pm

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Lol.
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Post Post #13038 (isolation #794) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:35 pm

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I thought you were SRing KidAmn.
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Post Post #13041 (isolation #795) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:40 pm

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Are you still SRing CK?
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Post Post #13043 (isolation #796) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:41 pm

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VOTE: CK
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Post Post #13045 (isolation #797) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:42 pm

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Just because I don't want to lynch Nero doesn't mean that I'm scumreading you
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Post Post #13049 (isolation #798) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:43 pm

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Is this a dream? Is this real life?

pedit I was voting Kid....
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Post Post #13052 (isolation #799) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:44 pm

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LOL
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