Micro 691: Just Mafia (Game Over)
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Does the latest posting by Schadd alleviate or strengthen your concerns?In post 74, Maxous wrote:he strikes me as over-cautious and i want to check if he's normally like this- Hiraki
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In post 86, Tenshii wrote:You can't argue for lack of elaboration when most of the playerlist, including yourself, hasn't done so.- Hiraki
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Maxous seems to care about the game and isn't looking for people to lynch in an overall stagnant game.In post 96, hapahauli wrote:What about Maxous and Shadd's play do you like?
Schadd seems to care about his posting from a town perspective. That could be swayed quickly.
You knew it was a weak vote and you decided to care about it?In post 97, Aj The Epic wrote:Also Hiraki I can't imagine you making a single weaker vote than that. You:
Not defending that either - it is quite plainly a weak pressure vote and I don't like this reaction.- Hiraki
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For the single fact that if you know it's a weak vote, then why should you care about it?In post 111, horrordude0215 wrote:why are surprised that AJ cared about it?
Because scum are looking for people to lynch while town is looking to lynch scum.In post 107, hapahauli wrote:How is it townie if he isn't looking for people to lynch?
Are you trying to say that I'm looking for someone to lynch? Because I could've voted Soblev pages ago on very bad tenses and no one would've batted an eye.In post 107, hapahauli wrote:Like, if you care about the game, you should be trying to find mafia.
It means that he's being very careful with his posting but from a town perspective rather than a scum perspective.In post 107, hapahauli wrote:What does this even mean?
It's a bad thing I'm not voting one of them and TRing the other!In post 111, horrordude0215 wrote:This is a bad 2nd post, and reeks of intentionally not chiming in on his thoughts of the previous page.
Oh...
Curious how you're able to accuse every post of mine on being scummy. Additionally curious on how you're not able to say how I've been defensive. When is defensiveness scummy in an argument anyway?In post 111, horrordude0215 wrote:Hiraki also gets very defensive in his back and forth with Sobolev.
Clearly was speaking to the intensity of it. Both Hapa and AJ realized that.In post 111, horrordude0215 wrote:If you admit it was a weak vote, why are surprised that AJ cared about it?
It didn't. Would've taken it off if you didn't give the worst reaction possible.In post 106, Aj The Epic wrote:You're acting as if having no justification EXCUSES your lame excuse for a vote.- Hiraki
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In hindsight, the worst reaction possible would've came with a vote. I think we both know that I was active last night and I was waiting to hear more AJ. The following doesn't help his case:In post 116, hapahauli wrote:I still don't understand why you think AJ had "the worst reaction possible."
In post 147, Aj The Epic wrote:My entire contribution to this game has gone after people who haven't been playing to a town wincon this game, from Hiraki using weak reasoning, to Temphq being noncommittal to you using spam posts early to try and get a foothold in this game.
I would have unvoted if he had a normal reaction to it.In post 117, horrordude0215 wrote:Weak votes are opportunistic and scummy.
The game stagnated.In post 117, horrordude0215 wrote:(and in fact stated that you agreed with his read on LUV in your very next post)
What's wrong with that?In post 117, horrordude0215 wrote:because it felt like you were pushing Sobolev to the wall in an attempt to get him to out his read on you.
Everyone's activity spiked down but I also agree with Lil Uzi's 130 (Activity is NAI).In post 123, Sobolev Space wrote:Tenshii's activity shot down right after people started voting for him.- Hiraki
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When was the last time that you made a list on why a vote was bad? AJ isn't some new player.In post 151, hapahauli wrote:Why was AJ's reaction bad?- Hiraki
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says the person voting meIn post 169, horrordude0215 wrote:If AJ flips scum, Hiraki deserves some attention too.- Hiraki
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Is there a possibility that me and AJ are BOTH scum in your opinion?In post 238, horrordude0215 wrote:Deadline is approaching and he's the scummiest read I have out of the 3 wagons above.- Hiraki
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Do you guys know how many times LUV actively flakes from games?
Like - I really don't want to bring it up but since you're forcing my hand - LUV is not allowed to join games due to actively replacing out. If he's scum here, it's not because you guys did literally any scumhunting. It's not a bad D1 lynch but not by any means great either.- Hiraki
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I don't have a read on LUV - I just know he's not a good lynch for today.In post 339, Maxous wrote:like, if i'm to trust Hiraki's read on LUV, that he's just a player that regularly pulls shit like this...i'm not gonna be delighted, sorry- Hiraki
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You don't have to repeat something 10 times for people to understand.In post 413, horrordude0215 wrote:I still want a Hiraki lynch fwiw. I have a stronger read on him than anyone else.
I didn't think I'd be here but I'll be on until the end. That being said, let's get some backlog out of the way:
Great, let's go over this:In post 352, Aj The Epic wrote:It also would be awesome if you didn't waste space lying about the reasons people wanted LuV lynched.
Uzi is L-1 as of 304 with the following on the wagon:
A) Maxous
B) Sobolev Space
C) Aj the Epic
D) Darklyn
Here are the reasons given:
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Wow...a flaky player being...flaky - I'm SURE that has NOTHING to do with what I just said!In post 191, Maxous wrote:Uzi just wants somebody else to end the day do he can stay off wagons and avoid giving any stance.
In reference to the above, I wonder if this has ANY coincidence!
The same argument can be made for the reverse tbh.In post 336, Maxous wrote:you don't lurk the game and give no effort to defend yourself as a doctor
if you're a town protective you will put more effort into getting the wagon off of you so you don't have to claim
Out of everyone's comments, these are at least the most thought provoking. I wonder why I TR Max!
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Voting him for being lurky and flaky? Check!In post 202, Sobolev Space wrote:VOTE: Lil Uzi
Try harder.In post 198, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
That's what I'm trying to figure out.In post 195, Sobolev Space wrote:Who do you think could be scum then?
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"He is flaky and lurky"In post 57, Aj The Epic wrote:LuV's play this game actually bothers me, and I consider myself fairly aquatinted with his bad habits of sounding scummy early. Here particularly, he's been as brief as possible with no real advancement to the game.
wow a meta attack, this is some good scumhunting dudeIn post 211, Aj The Epic wrote:This iteration of LuV is unusual even for him, though. LuV normally ATTEMPTS to have reads, even if they're not very unique.
173 does not say "let's end the day now" so your entire argument here crumbles pretty quickly.In post 241, Aj The Epic wrote:Actually, thinking on it: LuV's conclusion in 203 contradicts his conclusion in 173. If you're not clicking links, 173 is his "let's end the day now" post and 203 is his "I think Aj/Max is tvt" explanation, from his earlier statement that Tenshii/Max/Myself is tvtvt.
In response to Horrordude saying that he'll put an L-1 vote on AJ before the deadline.LUV wrote:Prolonging the day doesn't do any good.
LUVneversays that he wants to end the day. His question is literally:
Which has NOTHING to do with ending the day early!In post 173, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:What do you want to accomplish before you put him at L-1?
D)
In response to me saying that the LUV lynch produces no information. No response was given to this post. In fact, Darklyn asks LUV later on who he wants to lynch.In post 314, Darklyn wrote:It gives some decent ones for AJ and Maxous
So - I apologize. You're not wrong. The wagon isn't EXCLUSIVELY on lurky attacks. Here's what else is on the wagon:
A) META
B) False claims
C) An overall bad vote from Darklyn that was not followed up on
Yes. We've already had this argument. You're clearly not with me. Oh wait! Should we re-visit this little snippet!In post 353, horrordude0215 wrote:You put AJ at L-2 on Page 4 by sheeping someone else's "case", admitting it's a weak vote... AJ calls you out and tells you the vote is weak, so he's scum?
Hmm...that's odd...it seems that youIn post 169, horrordude0215 wrote:Based on AJ's recent reactions (trying to go powertown and dictate to everyone who the lynch is going to be), Hiraki's vote on him feels like a weak attempt to bus a partner.noticedthe change and just made it fit your agenda! Good looks!
Clown case hasn't changed since Page 4. Never change Toto.In post 354, Toto wrote:Clown case is good.
No! I said don't change! Don't start to look around a little bit!In post 356, Toto wrote:You seem to be attacking Hiraki for a weak case on AJ, but I think you had some issues with AJ yourself. Can you clarify this?
I have no intention of lynching Uzi or Tenshii after the following 2 pages.- Hiraki
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I'm requesting replacement after this lynch (just for the fact that I don't want to kill the game by causing a NL in case someone else comes in here).
I'm tired of you two telling me that I either haven't done enough work or haven't read the thread or haven't done enough to your liking. I'm just not having fun with you two and I don't expect that to change with D2.
The fact is that you DID SR AJ and me at the same time. That's the only thing that I was stating. I wasn't stating that you were doing so. That was completely irrelevant to my argument that is exactly the same as it was now.- Hiraki
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In fact, there iszeroclaim in the above post that you are scumreading AJ. Instead, there is a complete fact that the same changes that led me to SR AJ are the same ones that you did. The difference was the reversal on that scumread after people realized that it was very fishy that you were SRing both me and AJ at the same time.- Hiraki
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This was about Darklyn not posting since the 22nd.In post 476, Hiraki wrote:I'm going to stay quiet before I say anything but understand there's something I want to say but feel much better if I conceal it for the time being.
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