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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:17 pm

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He feels unfocused and unengaged like he was at Micro 688.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:18 pm

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(Just saying Sag it wasn't at L-1 Creature changed their vote to loopdan lol. Fykus is at 2 votes if I'm counting correctly now that Tarkus unvoted.)
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:19 pm

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VOTE: Loopdan
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:22 pm

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oh ok
well I may or may not be here for the lynch, still sick and shit but I'll try to be around to change my vote if something happens
don't ask me for big posts though or I might puke on you

btw the loopdan thing, is it just meta based or did he do something in this game in particular or what
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:24 pm

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It's mostly meta-based.

I'm sorta missing him this game.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:26 pm

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oh ok

meant to ask earlier but how far can you get without looking into player meta?
is it a big thing that is expected of everyone or is it an optional play style sorta thing?
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:28 pm

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I'm seconding both of Sagittarius's questions. I'm still preferring to lynch Fykus but if there's something important that you guys have on Loopdan I would like to know. Also how important is game/player meta on this site?
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:31 pm

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I still think there was scum on the rb wagon, he hasn't seemed towny to me, and I don't think sagittarius is the lynch tonight.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:32 pm

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Yeah there was - rb
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:37 pm

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hahahaha idek what your case on rb was fykus
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:41 pm

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In post 465, Fykus wrote:If you dont want prs to claim theyre a pr (not suggesting he is one) then how do you expect them to not be lynched?
Fykus still hasn't responded to any of what I've said about him. And what I've just quoted doesn't seem very towny either.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:51 pm

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I think he was saying that claims are a way to convince people not to lynch you, which is true and not scummy to suggest imo. I was hoping to get enough people onto someone else so that I wouldn't have to bank on people changing their minds.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:03 pm

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Point out what you want me to regute pyra.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:03 pm

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Refute*
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:07 pm

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Tarkus, what I meant was that doing the whole "claim or die" thing is a good way to get mislynches especially on Day 1 when any PRs are going to be very reluctant to claim and we have the least knowledge. Maybe Fykus actually isn't scum, I don't know, but for them to suggest "claim or die" specifically on the first day seems anti-town at the least to me (I would be sort of fine with saying "claim or die" if a player had generally been acting scummy and the game had been going for a few days). And I interpreted that quote as Fykus saying that the lynch or threat of a lynch should be used to force claims out of people.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:09 pm

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Fykus read my ISO and you'll see what I meant when I said that you weren't responding. My last post would be a good place to start, though.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:13 pm

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It should I think. We gotta lynch someone, and claiming is generally the move you make when you're about to get lynched (afaik). The problem's that fykus and I don't agree on who should be forced to claim.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:15 pm

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I only suggested to use it on rb to see if he would fake a claim. I asked what a pr is supposed to do when theyre at L-1 if we're not supposed to claim since my wagon was gaining traction. If you havent noticed ive been hinting the entire game that im a pr. Why do you think im so cocksure and taking charge of the game? I wont come out and tell you my role unless im at L1 again since i dont want to confirm scums suspicions of what setup we're in since theyd have a rough idea (if they have a rb or not). But anyway thanks for painting a target on my back tonight.

Heres why we should lynch rb: if he flips scum we know its either lemon or pyra thats his buddy. If he flips town it clears lemon. And town can start to figure out who the scum team is.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:17 pm

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Okay, don't specify your role.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:18 pm

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Yup. I noticed too late :facepalm:
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:19 pm

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The whole reason i brought up the bp strat was to try catch scum in a claim. Obviously that didnt happen but the reluctances etc was telling
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:21 pm

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If i survive the night somehow we'll have 4 conf town if my suspicions are correct
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:25 pm

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With the whole claiming thing didn't you think that someone else would ask you to claim as well? Why claim PR now I mean seriously you had no real pressure on you to claim as I was the only one on you (well besides Sag who isn't here) and I wasn't even trying to pressure you to claim, only to explain yourself. I already said that PRs shouldn't claim Day 1.

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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:28 pm

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The wagon was going to get traction again and i promised a claim in an hour i had no choice.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:45 pm

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Pyra what do you think of this?
In post 492, Fykus wrote:Heres why we should lynch rb: if he flips scum we know its either lemon or pyra thats his buddy. If he flips town it clears lemon. And town can start to figure out who the scum team is.

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