Mini 1894: DBZ Abridged Mafia - Arrival To Namek (Game Over)

[MariaR]

You have no reason to worry about that wagon so I'm wondering why you're worried or think they're scum on it compared to others you can give reason or give none at all that doesn't make it any more or less likely scum is on it.

[ɀefiend]

Oh it's Maria. Gonna take Almost's advice now.

VOTE: MariaR

[MariaR]

Oh it's Maria. Gonna take Almost's advice now.

VOTE: MariaR

You can't stab me this time

[Desperado]

are you suggesting that any discussion of the dragonballs is strictly nai maria?

cuz I dont agree

What makes it not NAI to you? o-o

???

not sure yet

but suggesting that it isnt!/never will be is pretty weird

[MariaR]

Talking on a mech is the game feels pretty nai to me

[Desperado]

if scum have more information about the balls than town does then....no

[Desperado]

did one of your buddies already slip and you're trying to gloss over it or what?

[MariaR]

if scum have more information about the balls than town does then....no

And why would scum have this???????????????

[MariaR]

did one of your buddies already slip and you're trying to gloss over it or what?

Yes

[Desperado]

if scum have more information about the balls than town does then....no

And why would scum have this???????????????

??

why wouldn't they? we already know they have more freedom to pass them so it's not a stretch to assume they know more about them.

[MariaR]

they're able to get them easier then us if they have info on them aswell that's just flat out op

[Desperado]

or it's...How mafia works???

[Desperado]

even if it's as simple as one of their PRs having additional info when a town PR has the same info (not op)

[MariaR]

How is this relevant

[Desperado]

lol

[MariaR]

So it's not good to know

[MariaR]

Like you saying scum have more info on the dragon balls mean the talk is AI? Even if they did we wouldn't know what info it was so we wouldn't be able to catch said slip.

NAI

[Desperado]

you're just... Wrong

[Imperium]

Nacho I am disconcerted that your two townreads are the two players I like least thus far.

If you'd like to talk about this I'm more than happy to jam with my beautiful boy! Was kind of hoping you'd move to chatting mode after I put you down

[Imperium]

Imperium, how do you feel about Almost popping up to say some stuff to Vifram on the very page people were talking about wagoning him without any acknowledgement ? Unless I missed a post.

I'm not sure what you're saying; the only post made towards Vifam that I think might be significant is the one where he kind of attacked Vifam for not knowing things but kind of didn't, but him backing off pretty much immediately makes me doubt he was trying to encourage a quickwagon. What were your thoughts?

[Not Chara]

early assessment of Almost here suggests he's leaning town. i like Desperado's assessment of that one Almost post coming from town (meaning i like Desperado), but Almost is a self-aware scum and is perfectly capable of forming such a thought. he remembers things and uses them, his alignment has little to do with it. that would be why Almost is only lean town. i certainly don't want him lynched, however. i haven't seen anything from him i don't like yet.

Imperium: i'd like to know about your push. you mention you have one, but haven't discussed me or spoken to me beyond the vote and then mentioning you have the push.

i find mechanics discussion largely NAI. in games with nonstandard public mechanics, there are always going to be disagreements and sifting through them for alignment information is usually fruitless and just leads to pointless fights. better to examine how players react to the disagreements and deal with them.

I find annoying that people think about the mechanics only in terms of how they can be used directly, not in terms of how they can be a vector for scumhunting. Scum can do a lot, but they can do very little without leaving a paper trail if we approach it correctly. I will have more to say on this day 2.

right now, i would say Socrates looks town.
i also want to say that giving my thoughts on how i think the dragonball mechanic will work out doesn't mean i won't be using it for scumhunting!

[Not Chara]

Alisae's relatively quick new decisions based on the posting from other players is something i've seen from town Alisae.
Tywin: have you seen town Alisae? what you described as scum just looks like the question-heavy town Alisae i've seen before. what's the difference?

135: acknowledges bias but doesn't make an effort to work around it, and wants to policy on page 6? i don't see an actual scumread here.

[Not Chara]

alright, scratch what i said earlier.
i'm townreading the intent of 121, but i dislike that Socrates's push on me so far is based on this tell that they've said twice isn't complete because i haven't scumread anyone for the dragonballs, just given my opinion.
for one, zefiend has come to exactly the same conclusion, and Socrates hasn't mentioned it. they've caught scum this way before, but 2/3 players with the same opinion haven't even been spoken to. if there was real concern, why isn't the same care being taken? Socrates only mentions Almost after he brings up this exact problem.
and reading 121 again, there's the main issue. Almost is fine because Socrate's agrees that Almost's reasoning is towny. therefore, the mechanics tell isn't that important. zefiend gets a side-eye for stalling in 217, but no mention of the mechanics tell. the reply to Almost sounds like a retroactive excuse.
so in the end it just looks like my post caught Socrates's attention as something they could push safely, instead of the tell being the cause.

[Not Chara]

Alisae: do you still think Tywin is scum?

[KuroiXHF]

"I would have been here sooner but I was too busy plowing your mother!"

Vote Count 1.03

MariaR

(0/7)

-

Clumsy Phoenix

(0/7)

-

Imperium

(0/7)

-

Majiffy

(1/7)

- Not Chara

Almost50

(3/7)

- ɀefiend, Albert B. Rampage, Majiffy

Not Chara

(3/7)

- Socrates, Imperium, Alisae

Tywin Lannister

(0/7)

-

Alisae

(1/7)

- Tywin Lannister

Vifam

(0/7)

-

ɀefiend

(0/7)

-

Desperado

(0/7)

-

Albert B. Rampage

(3/7)

- MariaR, Desperado, Vifam

Socrates

(0/7)

-

Not Voting:

Clumsy Phoenix, Almost50

Notes:

- Trying out the new format. Let me know your thoughts[/color]

(expired on 2017-04-04 12:55:00) until the end of Day One.
With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Fascinating. Remember this specific vote count and the pages leading up to it tomorrow if I'm no longer around.

mod: can the mafia pass balls when they are tied for leading wagon?

No. Tieing for leading the wagon is seen as sharing the lead for the wagon with someone else.