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THANK YOU SOMEBODY GETS ITIn post 518, TwoFace wrote:
tbh this is how we should be treating SS.In post 55, TwoFace wrote:I'd rather pretend the claim never happened and judge him based how he actually plays. If he looks like scum, I'll lynch him. If he doesn't, I won't.
We should not ever advocate lynching him simply because he claimed miller.
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This is where I'm at:
RB, EagerSnake, and TB are obv-town.They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.Transcend is also probably town, since he's making a ton of sense so far and is pushing a lot of pro-town objectives.
Boon and TwoFace are ok, and I lean town on.Boon is active, but is being dumb and pushing a lot of mafia objectives (instigating suspicion against obv-townies). TwoFace is in a similar boat. Active, and contributing, but not suspecting the right things. Regardless, I don't think the lynch should be going their way today.
Something_Smart I'm pretty null on.His activity is "meh". The miller claim is NAI. But I can't really find anything scummy or townie to point into his filter.
HorrorDude and I_am_innocent are not active.
Scumreads are Eddie, DarkShadow, and Aronagrundy.
For the sake of formatting, will elaborate on each of them in the next post.A TeamLiquid Mafia journeyman.
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: EddieCane
I'm probably most convinced on Eddie, because he's had the opportunity to post and contribute, but his contributions are pretty bad.
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Firstly, he has a bunch of janky town-reads. Bad reads aren't necessarily alignment indicative, but the lack of paranoia he's showing doesn't feel very townie.
Anyone can get run-up to l-1 early game... it's not exclusive to townies. Yet, Eddie is very against even considering the Transcend lynch, and posts #6-13 in his ISO all defend Transcend in some way.In post 146, Eddie Cane wrote:the fact transcend is l-1 already means he's probably town
This is probably correct. However it's the attitude that's scummy here. He's not interested in stopping suspicion on RB and Eager. He's just throws in a very dismissive comment and doesn't seem interested in elaborating on it at all.In post 484, Eddie Cane wrote:eager and RB r town lol
This read is the worst of the bunch. Reading Arona town because "gut" is both useless and stretches believability.In post 521, Eddie Cane wrote:I think arona is probably town
I think one or two bad town reads are individually excusable. All of them combined point to something mafia-motivated.
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Secondly, take a look at his scumread contributions (I've quoted them all here):In post 94, Eddie Cane wrote:I don't believe him noIn post 196, Eddie Cane wrote:fos ThinkBig
He's just not taking scumhunting seriously. Look in his filter, and compare the effort he puts into justifying setup speculation and town reads. By contrast, his scumhunting is shit, and he's voting TB (who is obv-town as all hell).In post 467, Eddie Cane wrote:VOTE: thinkbig
Transcend I'm obviously a pr playing shitty so I'm not nkd cmon man...........A TeamLiquid Mafia journeyman.
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hapahauli Goon
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Formatting. See post above.In post 530, ThinkBig wrote:@hap - if you have a town lean on 2F, then why is your vote still on him?
No. Your fight is TvT. Hypocrisy is both subjective and non-alignment indicative.In post 531, TwoFace wrote:rb is not obv town, especially when he is guilty of doing what he says scum does. his own definition points himelf to being scum for fucks sakeA TeamLiquid Mafia journeyman.
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This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.-
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Fair enoughIn post 533, hapahauli wrote:
Formatting. See post aboveIn post 530, ThinkBig wrote:@hap - if you have a town lean on 2F, then why is your vote still on him?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Hapa's reason to SR Eddie is weak yet you want to see more Eddie votes?In post 535, Something_Smart wrote:hapa's reasoning is hella weak.
that said, I'd like to see more eddie votesI have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?A TeamLiquid Mafia journeyman.
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...In post 535, Something_Smart wrote:hapa's reasoning is hella weak.
that said, I'd like to see more eddie votes
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THANK YOU SOMEBODY GETS ITIn post 518, TwoFace wrote:
tbh this is how we should be treating SS.In post 55, TwoFace wrote:I'd rather pretend the claim never happened and judge him based how he actually plays. If he looks like scum, I'll lynch him. If he doesn't, I won't.
We should not ever advocate lynching him simply because he claimed miller.
VOTE: Eddie Cane
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Precisely.In post 537, ThinkBig wrote:
Hapa's reason to SR Eddie is weak yet you want to see more Eddie votes?In post 535, Something_Smart wrote:hapa's reasoning is hella weak.
that said, I'd like to see more eddie votes
Some of both...In post 538, hapahauli wrote:
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?-
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That's a false dichotomy btwIn post 540, Something_Smart wrote:
Some of both...In post 538, hapahauli wrote:
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?-
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This is a good point. I've lost so many games due to nasty TVT and the scum team just sitting back and letting town eat itself alive. It's one of the things I need to work on in my playIn post 538, hapahauli wrote:
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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How is it false? It's what I see happen repeatedly in games on this site. People go after the loud, controversial targets for lynches, and mafia lets town eat itself alive.In post 541, Something_Smart wrote:
That's a false dichotomy btwIn post 540, Something_Smart wrote:
Some of both...In post 538, hapahauli wrote:
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?
Why are you even attacking my reasoning if you are suspicious of EddieCane as well? To be voting him in this spot, you should realize that most of what I'm saying is valid.A TeamLiquid Mafia journeyman.
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o.oIn post 532, hapahauli wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: EddieCane
I'm probably most convinced on Eddie, because he's had the opportunity to post and contribute, but his contributions are pretty bad.
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Firstly, he has a bunch of janky town-reads. Bad reads aren't necessarily alignment indicative, but the lack of paranoia he's showing doesn't feel very townie.
Anyone can get run-up to l-1 early game... it's not exclusive to townies. Yet, Eddie is very against even considering the Transcend lynch, and posts #6-13 in his ISO all defend Transcend in some way.In post 146, Eddie Cane wrote:the fact transcend is l-1 already means he's probably town
This is probably correct. However it's the attitude that's scummy here. He's not interested in stopping suspicion on RB and Eager. He's just throws in a very dismissive comment and doesn't seem interested in elaborating on it at all.In post 484, Eddie Cane wrote:eager and RB r town lol
This read is the worst of the bunch. Reading Arona town because "gut" is both useless and stretches believability.In post 521, Eddie Cane wrote:I think arona is probably town
I think one or two bad town reads are individually excusable. All of them combined point to something mafia-motivated.
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Secondly, take a look at his scumread contributions (I've quoted them all here):In post 94, Eddie Cane wrote:I don't believe him noIn post 196, Eddie Cane wrote:fos ThinkBig
He's just not taking scumhunting seriously. Look in his filter, and compare the effort he puts into justifying setup speculation and town reads. By contrast, his scumhunting is shit, and he's voting TB (who is obv-town as all hell).In post 467, Eddie Cane wrote:VOTE: thinkbig
Transcend I'm obviously a pr playing shitty so I'm not nkd cmon man...........-
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Like Eddie and DarkShadow are basically doing what you did as mafia in Open 678.In post 542, ThinkBig wrote:
This is a good point. I've lost so many games due to nasty TVT and the scum team just sitting back and letting town eat itself alive. It's one of the things I need to work on in my playIn post 538, hapahauli wrote:
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?
I understand there's always margin for error in Day 1 cases, but going after people that are sitting back in the shadows are far more likely to turn up mafia than loud, controversial, and emotional players.A TeamLiquid Mafia journeyman.
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It implies that the answer can't be both. With the amount of idiots screaming at each other this game has had, one of them is almost certainly scum. Though I am in agreement that the right place to look for scum right now is in the people in the background.In post 543, hapahauli wrote:How is it false? It's what I see happen repeatedly in games on this site. People go after the loud, controversial targets for lynches, and mafia lets town eat itself alive.
Why are those two things inconsistent? I think Eddie is scum, but not for the reasons you listed.Why are you even attacking my reasoning if you are suspicious of EddieCane as well? To be voting him in this spot, you should realize that most of what I'm saying is valid.-
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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=70754In post 545, hapahauli wrote:
Like Eddie and DarkShadow are basically doing what you did as mafia in Open 678.In post 542, ThinkBig wrote:
This is a good point. I've lost so many games due to nasty TVT and the scum team just sitting back and letting town eat itself alive. It's one of the things I need to work on in my playIn post 538, hapahauli wrote:
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
This does not equal town.In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?
I understand there's always margin for error in Day 1 cases, but going after people that are sitting back in the shadows are far more likely to turn up mafia than loud, controversial, and emotional players.
my only scum game on this alt. meta is bad and ur obviously gonna come back with that so idc, but u tried to read me and darkshadow off of how someone else played as scum...?-
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Why do you think I'm scum?In post 547, Something_Smart wrote:
It implies that the answer can't be both. With the amount of idiots screaming at each other this game has had, one of them is almost certainly scum. Though I am in agreement that the right place to look for scum right now is in the people in the background.In post 543, hapahauli wrote:How is it false? It's what I see happen repeatedly in games on this site. People go after the loud, controversial targets for lynches, and mafia lets town eat itself alive.
Why are those two things inconsistent? I think Eddie is scum, but not for the reasons you listed.Why are you even attacking my reasoning if you are suspicious of EddieCane as well? To be voting him in this spot, you should realize that most of what I'm saying is valid.
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