In post 1358, ChrisOrmie wrote:Grey did some things that made me suspicious that he was scum, however there are more than a few posts that are highly town motivated from the slot too. It's either scum gambiting like mad, or town that wasn't paying attention to the game. I've not seen a lot of their games, but Ali was convinced the slot was scum, and TB's play is not improving my opinion one bit. I still see the slot as shady and wouldn't be opposed to seeing their flip, but Mastina is the one I am reluctant to let go of. I feel she's too good a player to give time to.
@oldwino I was townleaning on RC, and Ali's only improved the slot imo. Highly doubt that he's scum. I was worried it was confbias as I usually read RC as town (and just played with town-Ali where he was very similar to this game) but ISOs do nothing to make me suspect the slot.
I get a similar feeling but didn't think it was AI, but do you think this is more indicative of scum than newbie - if so, why?In post 1325, Blawb wrote:VOTE: DogWatch
I went through DogWatch's ISO, and can say with confidence that he is more concerned looking townie than helping the town.
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In post 1359, Icy wrote:Yes. Mastina is still my strongest scum read.
No need to go over day 1 again, but on Day 2 Alisae entered the game post 892 to a slot Mastina and I were both town reading. Three hours later Mastina voted Alisae.936
Three....Hours....Into...Day....Two.
Not exactly giving him much time to get established, like she was willing to do with Thinkbig.
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In post 1360, Blawb wrote:Still staying on DogWatch, sorry guys.the only argument here is that we might be mistaking scuminess for newb-ness. I don't like that argument, because I still think that DW's main focus is appearing town - more so than helping the town. Even newer players would have the tone of wanting to Lynch someone / help the town, but I'm really not seeing that in DW.We all mostly agree that DW is scummy;Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1361, mastina wrote:IC note: this is borderline against site rules as we have rules against trust tells and also rules stating you must play to your wincon--deliberately sabotaging one alignment for the sake of another violates those standards. Never ever do that. EVER.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1385, Blawb wrote:The fact that the only two cleared townies (myself and Icy from lack of CC) are off the wagon should say something.. I'm willing to Lynch either of them, but mastina and TB are off the table.My money is on oldwino and DogWatch, which could very well be a scum pair from what I've readSpoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1387, ChrisOrmie wrote:Intent to put TB at L-1.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1388, Icy wrote:Obviously my preferred lynch today is Mastina. I believe Thinkbig will flip town. Not only that but it's possible Mastina has been lining up his flip for town credit the whole game. Thinkbigs lack of participation is questionable, other than that I just don't see it.
Alisae is town because RC was town.
Chris is town. I don't even remember who was in the slot before Pieg, but he was town, Pieg was town, Lemon was town until he left the game (that was a bit questionable) but his posts read town to me.
That leaves me with a Mastina partner of Dog, or OW.
Either could be her Scum buddy. This is my third game, and the first two were won by scum teams consisting of a newb player who played exactly like Dog has this game. Both got town credit for townslips from the veteran players. Given that, my gut still tells me Dog is town and the other scum is OW. He has been driving the train for TB sense the start of the day. He does post LAMIST often, and (in my view) at least subconsciously hinted both his top reads would flip town. He has also held on to the RC/Grey scum team well past it's expiration. Town OW would not be pushing that scum team.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1393, Icy wrote:But you see she didn't disappear at the end of D1 as a matter of fact she already posted that she came online right as grey hammered.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1402, Blawb wrote:This sums it up for me, minus the mastina part. If town can narrow it down to {mastina, oldwino, DogWatch}, and everyone pretty much agree on that, I'll lynch mastina today. I'll be watching this thread - if that's the decision you guys want to make, give me hammer and I'll get it done.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1402, Blawb wrote:Although I think it's slightly scummy to not even support someone you read as town, this is what mastina would do as town. The games I've read show that mastina acts scummier when town, and acts townier when scum. I still believe that she is town, but I'm willing to Lynch her if it pushes oldwino and DogWatch into the center stage.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1406, ChrisOrmie wrote:
TB/Wino/Dog for me tomorrow right now, but out of the three I'd rather have TB. Have to see if TB actually posts anything good, or the flip/nk tells us anything fun, before I know where I'm going to push the most tomorrow.In post 1404, Blawb wrote:I really don't like where my top two scum reads are in relationship to this wagon. I hope I'm wrong and mastina is scum, but I doubt it.
Intent to hammer.
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In post 1408, oldwino wrote:Chris, if TB is your top scum read, why didn't you join that wagon and take him to L1?Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Town has... a 5% chance? And it's sad since scum is playing badly too.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Mastina prioritizing postgame talk from her scum win over participating in this game when it's like 12 hours to EOD and she's l-1 and she's the IC is I think typical of her investment in this game. I say this knowing that I've actually been talking to her there and that she will very likely see this soon but not caring about a game this close to deadline as an IC is not ok, even if it's technically not against the rules.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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????????In post 1421, mastina wrote:
What if I told you that RadiantCowbells is notorious for having a good scumgame and that him looking so town is probably a sign that he is scum? (Also me having initially read him as town. That's a fairly good sign he's actually scum. Go ask him yourself postgame; he knows I'm right about me needing to flip my read on him. )Alisae is town because RC was town.
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