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VOTE: rb for lynching a miller, hello again by the way

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DS im town dw, lets lynch scum together i think ur town because ur jovial attitude and internal humour is reflective of town mentality

"Dw" please clarify

your avatar is broken

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hope ur marathon goes well

Thanks but that's not til the fall. How did you know?

You told him...

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As such you mind getting me a drink?

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Damn, I feel like I'm back in the dessert mafia...

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HURT: transcend, can we get something other than a name from you?

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Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)

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thanks for the OMGUS, now actually post something...

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For reference transcend has checked into the thread and posted THREE seperate times now and has posted nothing but unexplained votes, that is suspect as hell to me.

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I think we have found our first lynch

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I can keep this up all day, jester is impossible and unless the mod was a total dick and gave you a "must only vote/shitpost" restriction you are my top pick right now

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Maybe this is easier for you to understand:

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Dumb question, why would transcend even get cc'd? This isn't an open setup...

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I missed checking in for one day and everything exploded...

rb, thank you for FINALLY fixing your avatar, it was really fucking with my phone's browser

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DS, please look at aronagrundy and Eddie Cain.

Ok, my feelings after a quick iso reread of aronagrundy and Eddie Cain:
aronagrundy - I REALLY don't like this slot
Eddie Cain - I'm much happier with this slot but not seeing a hard town read yet

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Can I get a second opinion on Boonskiies?

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Which parts don't you like?

I have an idea, but I want to see what you come up with.

The setup fishing, the awkward speculation, the nonsense logical statements, most of all post 279. I can go on...

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DS, please look at aronagrundy and Eddie Cain.

Ok, my feelings after a quick iso reread of aronagrundy and Eddie Cain:
aronagrundy - I REALLY don't like this slot
Eddie Cain - I'm much happier with this slot but not seeing a hard town read yet

Wait, I fucked up, I iso'd eagerSnake, not Eddie... give me a few minutes....

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Ok, iso'd eddie cain (actually him this time), I hate 80% of his day one but day two is better, currently neutral leaning negative.

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Someone talk to me about horrordude

I actually feel rather good about him, neutral leaning town. roughly where I see eagersnake.

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Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)

He votes Transcend for what seems like very policy-esque reasons, and not because he's suspicious. Also, he throws in an attempt to discredit SS's claim without really doing anything with it. I see mafia very frequently doing these types of discrediting plays - they throw something at a wall and don't really do anything with it (and hope other people latch onto it). I feel like if his suspicion on SS was actually legitimate, he'd be much more concerned with him on D2.

I've also been pretty displeased with his contributions today. A lot of null-leaning-one-way reads, and suspicion on aronagundy that he didn't elaborate on until he was asked to do so.

And how exactly was my vote on him bad? Up until that point Transcend had posted nothing but 3 naked votes, after the vote he then instead of posting normally he proceeded to dump a pile of shitposts into the thread. How exactly is this town behavior? Yeah, I admit missing checking in on the 29th and the thread was locked due to a rushed lynch by time I logged in on the 30th, I know that doesn't exactly look good.

As far as the miller claim, if it's not listed in the game's setup I will ALWAYS be suspect of millers.

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You say the claim is convenient for mafia to make, but never really make an attempt to determine SS's alignment. Stuff like that reads like you're discrediting him, rather than actually trying to figure out his alignment.

What do you think about SS anyway?

I didn't attempt to determine his alignment due to getting tunnel vision on transcend, his damn trolling got to me...

As far as SS, I actually like most of his posts but due to the role he claimed I will NEVER see him as better than neutral.

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I've played with rb before (in a game where I was an uninformed deathmiller), he normally shitposts regardless of alignment but tends to tighten up and get more serious as the game goes on.

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Eagersnake, please concisely explain your case on rb, all in one post.

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I don't have the time for a detailed post right now but I am town but I refuse to claim exactly what, thank you boon for the confirmation.

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On a side note every single game I played so far has had me seen as scum, what the fuck am I doing to cause this?

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aronagrundy really needs to return to defend themselves as he is my current top scumread

also why the hell is hapahauli still voting me?

I actually think the theme change was necessary

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I don't have the time for a detailed post right now but I am town but I refuse to claim exactly what, thank you boon for the confirmation.

you will claim exactly what because there's already a vig and a cop to nk and adding some other role isn't going to hurt.

There's a nice quote I want to bring out here:

"players who speculate about the setup more than they ask for other players' reasoning and/or accuse other players of being scum are probably group scum"

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i have something to say but I want the claiming to finish before I say it.

horror and dark are left, correct? and no dark, claiming town does not count as claiming.

If you insist I'll claim VT...

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@horror -please quote the specific things you said in the pt that boon is town reading. you can quote things YOU say in the pt, just not what OTHER people say.

Nope, that's still a violation

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I have confirmation I'm not allowed to quote anything from the neighborhood topic into the thread. I can paraphrase that before Boon joined my neighborhood I had commented that I was nulltown reading him but I had picked up his PR Crumbs and I wanted to take a closer look at him. Boon can confirm this if he wishes.

that's not list mod ruling but whatever mods can do what they want of course it doesn't really matter

I've received a warning for quoting a message I sent to a mod in my last game after the mod reviewed it with the list mods

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Expressing intent to vote aronagrundy, holding back until they attempt to defend.

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Anyone have a link to some of RB's scum games? I need to go ahead and resolve this in my mind once and for all.

Here's my game with him, I was the uninformed death miller
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69636

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Anyone have a link to some of RB's scum games? I need to go ahead and resolve this in my mind once and for all.

Here's my game with him, I was the uninformed death miller
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69636

I was town in that game u boob :@

sorry, I misread hapahauli's post...

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Eagersnake, please concisely explain your case on rb, all in one post.

Please do this

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I'm starting to having a craving to see some tb blood tbh

VOTE: ThinkBig

This guy was around when he claimed friendly neighbor, actually voted him AFTER the claim

Top 2 after tb would be idk

Hapa or whatever his name is

And the other dude I didn't even know was playing

Explanation? Day 1 was pretty shit

Now everyone else out your hypos

OK here's where I'm at rn

Eddie is town
ThinkBig leaning town but IGMEOY
hapa leaning town but IGMEOY
IGMEO rb

town bloc {Hap, TB, self, Eddie, arona}

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Eagersnake, please concisely explain your case on rb, all in one post.

Please do this

Rb please do the same on eagerSnake

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Both of you would get much better results if you actually gave fully reasoned cases instead of childish yelling

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I still see arona as scum, I think one of rb or eagersnake is scum but I'm having trouble figuring out who with the constant childish fighting.

I think after this game is over I'm going to take a break from mafia, I've already sub'd out of my other game. I'm sick of being seen as scum/lurking in almost every game without learning WTF I'm doing wrong (oddly my most townie looking game was my one scum game...)

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Well, I doubt she's posting tonight (arona). As much as I'd love to listen to Eager vs RB for another 10 pages, I think we should lynch this scum and move on.

I think we should wait till she shows up but I won't lose any sleep over this
VOTE: aronagrundy

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TODAY IS LYLO. PLEASE HOLD YOUR VOTES!

This feels disingenuous to me.

Actually if you think about it this is a reasonable request, it only takes one Townie's vote to cause a mislynch today.

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Eddie's death casts massive shade on RB

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DS, it's lylo so what PR are you and what are your results?

I am not an investigative role.

I don't think rb is the lynch today, I think it's eagersnake.

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DS, it's lylo so what PR are you and what are your results?

I am not an investigative role.

I don't think rb is the lynch today, I think it's eagersnake.

So what PR are you then?

What do you think I am?

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My intended vote is eager and I believe boon is also going to vote that way

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VOTE: eager

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Considering that I was the one who leaned on him to vote, I don't see any problems with it

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The only confirmed town players

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In answer to the statement in the dead chat, yes, I am very new. But even that doesn't explain how the hell I missed that I was being conned...

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Sorry I single handedly lost us the game, I think I need to take a break than go back to the newbie queues...

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Sorry I single handedly lost us the game, I think I need to take a break than go back to the newbie queues...

you definitely didn't single hand lose the game.

I started the transcend wagon, pushed aronagrundy's lynch, got conned into starting a mislynch today, sounds like single-handedly losing the game to me...

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Sorry I single handedly lost us the game, I think I need to take a break than go back to the newbie queues...

every single member of the town made some fuck up that created the inevitable loss. i feel like i'm responsible for 50% of it for my strategy backfiring and responding to pressure horribly.

plus the scum team had really good unity as seen in their scum pt. good job guys. i ain't even mad.

Your strategy was not a good one, to avoid a NK you need to look vanilla, not shitpost...

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What am I doing wrong and how can I improve?

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Both would have given us a chance...

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Sorry for being awful, I'm going to take a few weeks off then return to the newbie queues, after a bit of that I'll try the main queues again, hope next time I see you guys I have improved a bit.

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I gotta go back and practice the basics, no town ways around it...

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*two, damn autocorrect...

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I might join, I have 4 (plus a sub out) games played

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On 2nd thought I need to work on not being seen as scum and basic scumreading, I think that's best done in weaker games.

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like it should just be a really basic thing for town players to say, "we haven't got much content from a lot of slots, let's just chill"

or to sort other slots in the meantime while you wait for certain others to return

Then eager comes on and is like "j knew the scum was boon + SS + 1 but u guys r fagz" - except i also came to that conclusion and just wanted him to talk so i could rally together and cut throuh the wifom

Dark votes 12 hrs into Lylo and doesn't unvote when i say unvote because there's more to worked through in the game

TB deathtunnels ALL GAME ON ONE SLOT

2 vig shots, never hit miller

town actually voting transcend through his d-1 claim

Etc, etc

i'm not sulky at scum, but i don't think the win was much to do with what you did - especially not when many people saw straight through it

Good NK choices I guess?

I thought you were scum with eagersnake, why would I listen to you telling me to not lynch who I saw as your partner?