Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[TwoFace]

Also TF would have just lynched town after town in this particular game

Sorry but transcend was scummy as fuck. He deserved that lynch and hopefully next time he won't play like scum.

Nothing he did was town motivated and then fucking up his own claim was the cherry on top. Like who the fuck messes up their own role like that?

I'll take the hate but I definitely wasn't wrong for the push.

[rb]

I townread transcend easy, so you could have too

[Transcend]

i mean i've never played with a friendly neighbor, only a friendly neighborizer.

[Transcend]

i do retract everything i said in the dead pt though

[rb]

Also lol, wouldn't you think scum who did what transcend did actually be careful about getting it right? Lmao

[TwoFace]

How am I supposed to townread a player who intentionally deceived town and denied content? Who when under pressure instead of scum hunting soft claimed and expected that to make things better, a player who when forced to full claim botched it so bad it looked like a scum slip?

It's impossible. Transcend fucked up. You really should have been day 2 lynched. Idk what happened cause I stopped following

I'm not going to say anything about your play cause I don't want to fight but I don't have a high opinion of it especially since town lost.

[rb]

he didnt deceive town and deny content lmfao

[rb]

he just didnt fit ur tiny box of what constitutes town or scum behaviour and ur scared to lose the tiny box

[rb]

imagine if discerning town or scum was more to do with the motivations behind actions in the context of the current game than the specific actions they take

[rb]

the difference between you and me TwoFace is that i can say that i fucked up when i scumread you, but you're so arrogant you still insist that i should have been lynched

[TwoFace]

imagine if discerning town or scum was more to do with the motivations behind actions in the context of the current game than the specific actions they take

Yes i used this. There is NO TOWN MOTIVE FOR WHAT HE DID. That's why I'm mad he played like scum.

[TwoFace]

I'm not going to engage in this argument you're trying to start. I stand by my opinions.

Transcend said he played how he played cause he was a powerful pr.

1. Transcend you weren't powerful at all. Technically I don't even consider your role a Pr
2. Playing different when you have some sort of role is the best way to appear scummy and draw attention to yourself.

Goodbye

[rb]

I've seen town fuck up claims and use their PR suboptimally plenty of times. That's not a scumtell

[rb]

Also no one plays like:

"I am town, does this next action have discernible town motive??" Before they do stuff. The ones that do are just bad players and they can be townread for other reasons.

[TwoFace]

Oh let's not forget he cc'd the Miller

[rb]

Yeah and the miller WAS scum. His setup spec was more accurate than yours...

[rb]

Also by not taking the miller claim at face value, we got boon to make the oddnight cop claim - which actually made it really obvious to find them as a scum pair, and if we didnt vig 2 town players and rush lynches - town would win.

Transcend did good, i townread him, and eagersnake also knew to unvote. The only reason you don't is arrogance.

[Transcend]

i accidentally claimed miller then in my next post correctedd myself

[TwoFace]

It's called body of work.

You fake a pr to deny content - bad/scummy
You get votes on you and instead of scum hunting soft claim instead of scum hunting- bad/scummy
You continue to not scum hunt - bad/scummy
You fake claim Miller and later try and play it off despite actually CC'ing the Miller- definitely bad/scummy
You claim a role that you don't have - bad/scummy

How can anyone town read that? If you can look through all that and still see town kudos for you. I can't and never will. It plays towards degrading the site which has obviously already been degraded if players think they can do things like that and get away with it.

[rb]

Degrading the site to focus less on specific claims and more on motivations.

Deary me

[TwoFace]

Cause town accidentally claims cc's Miller...

Like yes I know I was wrong about him, but you really can't blame me for being wrong. And if yo do, go read what I just outlined again and start blaming the person who did all that.

[TwoFace]

Already said there was no town motivation for any of the things he did.

[Regfan]

Probably best if you guys cease this conversation; games already over and it's not going anywhere fruitful.

[Transcend]

And Last But Not Least I Think That The Other Mafia Is Something Smart Not Of His Posts Are SCummy But I Think That He Cannot Be My Role Given That I'm Miller

Given that I'm investigative ASTERISK

[rb]

By your logic we would have lynched eager for fucking up as well - but guess who the scum ended up being?

Oh hehe, it was the ones who made "proper" claims. Which made sense for that to be the scumteam in the context of the game.

~ survival is a motivation for both alignments, and he already explaimed he wanted to get scum on his wagon then be able to claim and analyse the wagon