Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[TwoFace]

Also by not taking the miller claim at face value, we got boon to make the oddnight cop claim - which actually made it really obvious to find them as a scum pair, and if we didnt vig 2 town players and rush lynches - town would win.

Nobody was lynching boon/ss clearly cause nobody lynched boon/ss

[rb]

Probably best if you guys cease this conversation; games already over and it's not going anywhere fruitful.

It's fruitful for my ability to always win as scum against TwoFace's hilarious 'scumtells'

[rb]

Also by not taking the miller claim at face value, we got boon to make the oddnight cop claim - which actually made it really obvious to find them as a scum pair, and if we didnt vig 2 town players and rush lynches - town would win.

Nobody was lynching boon/ss clearly cause nobody lynched boon/ss

I like how you lecture me about how outcomes aren't relevant, it's the overruling logic of your point that matters - only to try and discredit my point by saying "but the outcomes!!"P

[TwoFace]

survival is a motivation for both alignments, and he already explaimed he wanted to get scum on his wagon then be able to claim and analyse the wagon

Yeah cause acting scummy on purpose as a method to finding scum is actually useful...

[Transcend]

literally my entire 443 was scumhunt heaven you just didn't like what i concluded with.

[Eddie Cane]

First of all, well done scum. Had some early planned gambits and they worked. Flawless scum victories aren't a regularity around here so props are deserved!

Next blackvoid, awesome awesome job modding. I'll be taking off of MS for a couple of weeks but if you have a game after that I'd definitely sign up.

Now my turn to take some blame and apologize. I was a non entity this game and that wasn't fair to town so I'm sorry and I'll take some fair share of the blame for the loss.

DW I think you're being pretty hard on yourself. Everybody has good and bad games regarding their reads, but one thing you can do consistently as town is come off as townie, which I think you did a good job of.

If there was one mistake I'd like to point out is the scum gave a gift with the miller claim in a game with a town vig. Proper play is for the vig to shoot said claim N1. Not only do you take out a WIFOM target, it protects all other town power roles because you guarantee you aren't shooting them N1. Instead you shot TF who I'd argue might be the best scum hunter in this player list.

Huge mistake/turning point in the game in my opinion.

I think I'm the ONLY player who actively argued against both lynches, and considering 2f/hapa/the had 2 scum early d1 (rb and transcend... whatevet. I shot 2f because he has a hard policy against lynching claimed pre d1 and he lynched a confirmed. that's not how town 2f plays. also, I wasn't up for a day of defending rb. as for hapa, I was REALLY close to shooting boon but decided that hapa's reads were so bad they had to be scum.

every single town in the transcend lynch needs to take this as a learning experience. worst lynch I've seen outside of newbie queu. scum play definitely wasn't perfect but it was alright and town fucked themselves, partially due to myself via vigs.


gg all!

[TwoFace]

Let's make it easier. Transcend and RB

Stay away from me going forward
I'll stay away from you.

[TwoFace]

literally my entire 443 was scumhunt heaven you just didn't like what i concluded with.

List reads are garbage and I don't read them. Too easy to fake as scum and they really aren't useful. Wasted time that could actually be spent scum hunting/pressuring somebody which is the best way to scum hunt

[Transcend]

i mean you don't have to dodge me i've already forgiven you

but if you want me to dodge you i will

the 3 of us killed it in guyinfreeze's large normal, we didn't exactly have as much luck here.

[TwoFace]

every single town in the transcend lynch needs to take this as a learning experience.

No. The only one who needs to learn something is transcend

[TwoFace]

Forgive me? I haven't done anything that needs to be forgiven

[Transcend]

tbh the town were slightly justified but that's only because i fucked up my claim.

[Transcend]

you went way too headstrong on me day 1. and that pissed me off pretty hard especiallyy since there was others (rb, eddie, snake) all campaigning that i was town and you fell into scum's (literally in the scum pt) planned trap of lynching me.

[Eddie Cane]

if you're not going to do it that's up to you. you should think about how I was able to correctly tr transcend and rb if they were both such obvscum though.

also in fairness i did start to doubt rb but after hapa flopped town I did correctly nail the scum team and if I could that meant living ppl could to. MAYBE horror could've won but boon and ss should've been lynched quick as fuck

[Transcend]

everyone in the goddamn game (even the scumteam) has confessed error except twoface because he is so fucking full of himself lol

[ThinkBig]

Good game all. I really need to learn to break out of death tunnels.

[rb]

if you're not going to do it that's up to you. you should think about how I was able to correctly tr transcend and rb if they were both such obvscum though.

also in fairness i did start to doubt rb but after hapa flopped town I did correctly nail the scum team and if I could that meant living ppl could to. MAYBE horror could've won but boon and ss should've been lynched quick as fuck

Yep, after the hapa death it was Boon + SS and unfortunately I was at work and really limited in time I could explain properly - and I wanted to get eagersnake back so I could get him onboard with my POV and realise we were both wrong

TB's deathtunnel was super fucking frustrating because someone who's seen me play both alignments would rly know better

In any case i agree, eddie i just dunno why you didn't shoot SS day2

[rb]

didn't know he fell into the trap but that shit's even funnier

But transcend you were SOOOOOOOOOOO obvscum dude

[ThinkBig]

2F and hap were so obviously town. I'd have been a better vig shot than either of them.

[rb]

And SS+Horror were both such juicy targets as well. I woulda vigged the FUCK out of SS, would have PM'd BV in huge capslock rainbow text

[rb]

ya 2F was obvtown but unfortunately much too arrogant and stubborn

[ThinkBig]

Boon played well and I'd probably would not have gotten him until later on. Though a claimed cop not being dead day 2 should have been a red flag

[rb]

Yeah i just had to see arona flip first, before i knew

[Eddie Cane]

naH you were town on meta

the way I saw it is hapa has had very good reads every time I've played with them. additionally, his scum games are pretty close to his town ones, too close to meta properly. hapa was in the tb/2f side of camp as mods said and I figured there was probably at least 1 scum there. hapas reads being this off (scum read me, dark, transcend, rb, etc) is something I've never seen before and pointed me to hapa scum. plus, I assumed town would potentially lynch the Miller but if hapa was scum the game was already over.

my shots were off (worst I've ever done as vig) but I had justification and you guys didn't make it easy on me with 2 quick and stupid mislynches. ESPECIALLY THE SECOND ONE YOUR CONF TOWN AEGUED AGAINST.

[ThinkBig]

The Aron lynch was stupid as fuck and SS's quick hammer was god awful.