Open 677: See Nayne Ples Ples [THE END]

[Antihero]

i'm just about ready to vote no lynch and wash my hands of this

[Antihero]

closest i can figure is it's fitz and he's dredging up the e+o "scumread" for lylo so he doesn't look completely indecisive and stalling until i tip my hand to see which way he should go on sakura and e+o

[Antihero]

so.... i take that as everyone else is ready to no lynch?

i am

[Antihero]

i'm the only one who's clear and I'M the one getting pestered to do something?

VOTE: no lynch

enjoy your lylo

[Antihero]

legit questions:

what am i supposed to be doing when all you three are doing is lurking?

how am i supposed to tell which two of you are town?

i'm open to any suggestions.

[Antihero]

We just need to make a lynch happen today! The only reason you're being bugged is because you're conftown. I don't think anyone is going to change what they think at this point so there's no point delaying things!

well holy fuck i wish i knew what ppl thought

[Antihero]

If Sakura doesn't quickhammer, we know she is town and then you only need to sort Fitz and I, and I know that we are town so it's 100% FitzScum for us then.

sakura has given me no reason to think she's town

[Antihero]

On one hand 2591 feels genuine, but then again i have a weak spot for buddying.
On the other hand Fitz has promised some work to try to sort this out. Tbf he still hasnt shown any results and i kinda want to wait for him, but idk how long can that even take really, im not an expert in reading back.

Why u guys make this so hard @_@

oh... ok so it could be either of them....

[Antihero]

So did E&O.

yeah, e+o thinks it's fitz after i think it's fitz

ain't that swell?

[Antihero]

oh boy, so everyone who's not fitz thinks it's fitz after i say i think it's fitz

SEE ISN'T IT GREAT I SHOW MY HAND FIRST?

good grief...

[Antihero]

Seeking replacement for havingfitz.

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[Antihero]

I feel like we both described how we feel about Sakura to make us TR her (BTW love your Avi)

'mkay i see what you're saying

(bonus points if you know where the avi's from)

[Antihero]

what i still don't get is why any of you three would kill etl but pbpbpbpbpbbppbpbpptptptptptptptpbptpbt

[Antihero]

i still kind of think scum of all flavors would want to avoid the d1 kop wagon and etl being scum reinforces that

on the other hand i could maybe see sakura killing etl...?

[Antihero]

there was absolutely no indication creature was changing his mind.

if it's not fitz what kind of sk doesn't take creature to endgame?

[Antihero]

errrrrrrr yeah i am unimpressed w the sakura case

361...gives townread on Anti. I think scum would know Anti was off limits to vote during the day. So a
towncred fauxpaus by Sakura?

i mean... momo didn't get any towncred for "forgetting" i was an ic so why would sakura expect any?

854...LAMIST?

ok so you use lamist a lot but i'm not sure how this is assigned. you pointed to 1053 being lamist but i don't think sakura expected any towncred from telling someone to spoil their quote tags. your liberal use of "lamist" is drifting towards "you are scum and therefore EVERYTHING you say is scummy LOL" which is ... terrible.

1502...unvotes the person she has been giving the most shade to (momo).

The momo unvote is followed by a few setup spec posts (in her ISO).

the obvious, and important, context here is that momo claimed 1-shot cop and everyone was pretty much forced to unvote him. i unvoted him and i still "threw shade" at him after i did.

2285...discussion on people massclaiming. Says something about having to go get her letter thingamajig (role PM).

Not sure why that would be necessary for a VT.

i'm not sure what her being a vt would have to do w having to go look at the setup when things were being claimed.........

i mean.... the OVERALL point that sakura's been kinda bland this game isn't a terrible one but the case still feels artificially padded. :\

[Antihero]

why was e+o ever a scumread, fitz?

i see a couple later vestiges of an e+0 scumread in your iso:

2205...I hate these kinds of posts. More scummy than SKish IMO so not sure it's of any worth towards E&O being an SK.

but you've had that read since day 1

[Antihero]

P.edit...iirc they looked scummy to me following my initial catch up. And they did look scummy to me...but now that we're looking for the sk....scummy isn't what I'm looking for.

soooooo you thought there were a lot of associatives between e+o and other people or what?

i don't get the new distinction

[Antihero]

e+o what's your impression of sakura v fitz

if we don't take the shot now, you probably will tomorrow

[Antihero]

i.e. you can pick apart any specific comments you want but they rarely stand on their own imo. The bulk of Sakura and E&Os posts are what matters to me.

i'm not rly trying to nitpick, but adding these points makes it look like your intention is to make the case appear strong rather than be honest about how much evidence against sakura there really is.

am i just confbiasing now...?

[Antihero]

You and Creature have both cast suspicions towards me in this game.

i did...?

this is news to me

[Antihero]

i guess it's plausible sakura left me alive thinking i wouldn't turn on her

[Antihero]

I wouldn't. I know it will get dismissed as wifom but no way would I put myself in a 1 in 3 chance over a 1 in 4.

reads aside:

killing me would've actually been a suboptimal move. sk already knew there had to be more PRs since there were two more letters unaccounted for.

[Antihero]

I'd rather not, unless that PR is being lynched.

this is prob what gave creature away

[Antihero]

sakura. ur killing me...

[Antihero]

honestly i'm not even 100% convinced it's not e+o. this hydra dynamic is weird

[Antihero]

when is this summitnw ari going to happen...?

[Antihero]

my ranking is fitz > sakura > e+o

if it is fitz or sakura i'm actually not expecting to die

[Antihero]

mostly bc creature dying and you're pushing the mylo case in kind of a scummy way

[Antihero]

Question for you Anti.
You and Creature have both cast suspicions towards me in this game. Why would I nk Creature over a confirmed town?

I wouldn't. I know it will get dismissed as wifom but no way would I put myself in a 1 in 3 chance over a 1 in 4.

and don't tell me anything about how you would've automatically killed me. there was never going to be a "1 in 4" regardless of the kill.

[Antihero]

you're pushing the mylo case in kind of a scummy way

How is my Sakura push scummy? I suspect her and am trying to get her lynched...hopefully for the win.

because a good bit of the case is innocuous stuff shoehorned into a scumread

[Antihero]

.if you had been the nk Anti we'd have 4 unconfirmed players. That's 1 in 4 by my math. You in the game just makes things tighter for the sk.

there
was
another
confirmed
pr
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setup

[Antihero]

though lol if fitz doesn't get what i'm saying that might make him town?

[Antihero]

somebody at a comp: plz link to the wiki page for this setup and walk through the letters

[Antihero]

if it is fitz or sakura i'm actually not expecting to die

lol

[Antihero]

sakura if you're town here this should be a fucking breeze for me

but it's not

[Antihero]

Oh dear apparently

i only said "buddying" which is something i actually didn't do

, i did also say you were repeating "I'm town" over and over to drill it into anti's head.

See post 375 and 378. Buddy buddy. That took about 60 seconds to find.

in the context of sakura having a bit of history w me prior to this game, this is a lot less sinister than you're casting it as

see... this is part of what i'm talking about. now it feels like you're just throwing everything and the kitchen sink at sakura and hoping SOMETHING will stick just through sheer numbers.

[Antihero]

i'm just stewing

leaning towards sakura now

[Antihero]

dont be like that

also my mind changes with the breeze. i'm back to fitz

who. else. kills. creature?

[Antihero]

it was rhetorical

[Antihero]

i got one

explain to me, in your own words, the setup

[Antihero]

i got one

explain to me, in your own words, the setup

The set up of this game? Like how it's constructed?

yes

[Antihero]

I've played in a few C9 games

see.... now i'm thinking you're faking a naivete re: setup bc the letters are determined by RNG. it says so right in the wiki and i have trouble believing you played this setup multiple times and don't know that nor do you know your way around the letters and piecing together the setup from the known ones.

the thing about you is that you only started really doing stuff when it got down to just you and what you have done would not be hard to fake as scum.

the thing about sakura is that you really don't make any wrong points about her.

[Antihero]

sakura, do YOU see what i'm saying about creature and why he was the kill?

[Antihero]

i'll hammer tomorrow night

it'll be a surprise who is it stay tuned

[Antihero]

i promised hammers and i did not deliver

VOTE: sakura

i'm sry if i'm wrong and i deserve the abuse i get if i am.

[Antihero]

i won

why do i still feel sad amd empty...?

[Antihero]

i won

why do i still feel sad amd empty...?

You should have seen Sakura Hana's private thread. I felt bad.

i think i'm going to be sick...

[Antihero]

i think the only purpose i served this game was to make RC frustrated, cause sakura pain, and occassionally antagonize havingfitz.