nancy's Mini Normal review

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:18 am

Oh dear this gained a lot of prs since last time I looked at it T:

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #43 (isolation #1) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:14 pm

What's teh setup with gunsmith removed?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #48 (isolation #2) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:29 pm

I don't feel like it needs the commuter. maybe put an encryptor instead

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #50 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:32 pm

Ok then I would say just goon or if you're not willing to you could throw in something that's purely wifom like a 2-shot cop

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #53 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:39 pm

1-shot Roleblocker / Jailkeeper is a really really swingy interaction

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #56 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:42 pm

idk like I feel like right now the power is at a stage where no one would expect a roleblocker in the setup and a false clear there could just end it for town in a very dissatisfying way

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #57 (isolation #6) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:43 pm

the second setup feels better to me personally

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #58 (isolation #7) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:43 pm

but it might still be scumsided

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #63 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:30 pm

Well this comes down to you. Which version of the setup are you more interested in and I'll focus on reviewing that?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #70 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:49 pm

2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Gunsmith
Town Vigilante
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

2-shot Mafia Doctor
Enabled Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Roleblocker Enabler

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #71 (isolation #10) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:54 pm

If anything I'd remove the vig tbh

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #72 (isolation #11) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:54 pm

Vig has SO much potential to fuck up town in this setup between the mason recruits which will be targeted at scummy people and the fact that they might not even kill scum they shoot

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #103 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:58 pm

Verified that bulletproof is a modifier so we're good to go on normalcy.

The setup as is is kinda scumsided now

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #104 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:00 pm

Ehh maybe not that weak neighbourizer packs one helluva punch

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #106 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:04 pm

Well meh.

I would not like it if there was no neopolitan because that'd be townsided.

This setup's ridiculously swingy. I don't know where it goes balance wise.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #108 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:07 pm

I think weak neighbourizer is an inherently swingy role

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #110 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:09 pm

Well I don't want to discourage you from doing innovative stuff

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #112 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:10 pm

Weak Neighbourizer is technically normal

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #114 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:11 pm

Neighbour is a role, not a modifier, so unfortunately yes that is non-normal

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:12 pm

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Uhh.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #117 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:12 pm

Nope it's both. You're good.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #119 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:13 pm

In post 102, nancy wrote:For the new page.

Town 2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Goon

Tbh this is fine. there's some niche really shitty cases but ehh

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #139 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:34 pm

I'm fine with that setup balance wise. VERY swingy but it's always going to be with that weak neighbourizer.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #142 (isolation #23) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:38 pm

It's a sketchy setup in a lot of ways but I also don't see how to do it better sorta

town is going to murder each other on setup spec

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #145 (isolation #24) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:41 pm

just tell the players no setup speccing if they setup spec and you should be good to go

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #147 (isolation #25) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:45 pm

WELL WHEN THEY START SETUP SPECCING U SAY NO SETUP SPEC AND SLAP THEM WITH UR MOD POWERS

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #149 (isolation #26) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:48 pm

I was joking.

Uhh Mason Recruit isn't actually a thing. Don't worry it's fine I think?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #179 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:08 pm

Hold on I'm busy tonight i'll be on later

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #183 (isolation #28) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:36 am

This will be today but not right this minue

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #185 (isolation #29) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:33 pm

I see what Empking is saying about the amount of protectives potentially feeling bad for scum and I think that because of the setup if town gets really ahead they will stay ahead

but

I don't think that it's imbalanced. If you reduce the power of the JK/BG I'd want town to get some other power I think

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #187 (isolation #30) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:49 pm

Honestly I'd rather leave it as is and just call it a game where scum have trouble making predictable kills and I would be happy with that.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #189 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:02 pm

I'm wondering about scum having two investigatives though but ehh

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #192 (isolation #32) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:37 am

It has the potential to go really badly for scum if they don't reevaluate the first time one of their kills fails

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #195 (isolation #33) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 am

Nahhh

What about giving scum a watcher instead of a neapolitan?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #203 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:25 pm

That should make Empking happier because that's definitely a buff to scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #206 (isolation #35) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:27 pm

Not 10

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #212 (isolation #36) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:09 pm

If the resolution for the same target being bodyguarded and jailkept is sorted out then I can pass it

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #214 (isolation #37) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:27 pm

If others can confirm that is an acceptable normal resolution then I

pass

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #227 (isolation #38) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:03 pm

I SEE A NANCY

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #229 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:05 pm

Uhh this isn't really my place to interject so I'll bail out.