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You're actually trying to float the setup your mason partner would let you be lynched...In post 2398, drealmerz7 wrote:if they care to, yep, I think they probably will, up to them
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Wtf u doin. The mason claim is obviously fake.
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Good, so we make sure his scum partner is aware he has to fake by voting him.In post 2403, Infinity 324 wrote:If dreal turns out not to be a mason, we lynch him. Simple as that.
Like I know I SR masons but Dreal is just terrible.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why are we unvoting before his Mason partner claims?
This smells like dreal claiming Mason to cover for a scum bus that was already on the wagon.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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*shrug*
Pretty sure I've read something wrong here as the procedure for when scum fake a mason is to force the scum buddy to vouch. Yet, a counterwagon comes up on me for actually putting the worst slot in the game to his claim.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I did a quick google search on Queen Mary (II) of Orange, and I'll be damned if that doesn't make sense as a Mason.In post 2407, Wraith wrote:Why are we unvoting before his Mason partner claims?
This smells like dreal claiming Mason to cover for a scum bus that was already on the wagon.
Fake claims do NOT provide/include Masonry either, so it would be like dreal actually dug into the flavour to tailor his own fake claim. Nah. This claim is authentic as far as I'm concerned.
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I think a Mason fakeclaim by dreal was intended to open a lot of possibilities for his buddies:
1. dreal claims Mason, vouched for by his scumbuddy. I don't think this was going to happen since it means that fake Mason buddy is dead meat as soon as dreal flips scum
2. dreal claims Mason, no vouch by a scumbuddy and the scumbuddy joins the wagon. This is risky because it allows the town to wagon PoE his potential partner that he was hoping would vouch for him via PoE.
3. dreal claims Mason, no vouch by a scumbuddy because the scumbuddy was already bussing him. This is pretty cunning because the town might be seduced into determining the scumbuddy via wagon PoE as per #2, which can potentially give a false clear on players who were on the dreal wagon before the claim.
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Yes, it makes sense in flavor terms. But did people not already warn me that scum could easily have prepared flavor fakeclaims?
It also means fucking nothing until the partner actually vouches for him, and that you're taking it at face value without someone backing it up is fucking suspicious.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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So you did a quick google search but Drealmerz couldn't? Like the mod has to give a fake claim. Drealmerz couldn't get lucky?In post 2409, Almost Chara wrote:
I did a quick google search on Queen Mary (II) of Orange, and I'll be damned if that doesn't make sense as a Mason.In post 2407, Wraith wrote:Why are we unvoting before his Mason partner claims?
This smells like dreal claiming Mason to cover for a scum bus that was already on the wagon.
Fake claims do NOT provide/include Masonry either, so it would be like dreal actually dug into the flavour to tailor his own fake claim. Nah. This claim is authentic as far as I'm concerned.
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Yes, and I pushed on masons thatIn post 2410, Almost Chara wrote:@Titus: If I hadn't scum read CK from before, I would have still voted you right now just for the push on the claimed Mason. WWE wasn't too long ago, you know
~A50claimed their partners. Masons should be flipped day before lylo if vouched for and all still alive.
You're missing the part where the partner has to claim.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Also I feel the need to say that I brought up these concerns because I literally started doing #2, trying to find his possible Mason partner via wagon PoE, assuming the partner would not already be voting for dreal since he "knows dreal is town". Then it struck me that it could easily just be Shepard or AC and thus a lack of vouch for dreal could be used as cover for a bussing attempt. Especially since those two immediately tried to jump off the wagon without the partner confirming dreal's claim.In post 2411, Wraith wrote:I think a Mason fakeclaim by dreal was intended to open a lot of possibilities for his buddies:
1. dreal claims Mason, vouched for by his scumbuddy. I don't think this was going to happen since it means that fake Mason buddy is dead meat as soon as dreal flips scum
2. dreal claims Mason, no vouch by a scumbuddy and the scumbuddy joins the wagon. This is risky because it allows the town to wagon PoE his potential partner that he was hoping would vouch for him via PoE.
3. dreal claims Mason, no vouch by a scumbuddy because the scumbuddy was already bussing him. This is pretty cunning because the town might be seduced into determining the scumbuddy via wagon PoE as per #2, which can potentially give a false clear on players who were on the dreal wagon before the claim.
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Yes, it makes sense in flavor terms. But did people not already warn me that scum could easily have prepared flavor fakeclaims?
It also means fucking nothing until the partner actually vouches for him, and that you're taking it at face value without someone backing it up is fucking suspicious.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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Yeah but Infinity has already claimed so changing his story at this point would invite a policy lynch.In post 2417, Commander Shepard wrote:So did Infinity. #NotAMason2017
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In games like this one, scum are PROVIDED with fake claims from the mod. The thing is I've never seen a mod that provided a Masonry for a fake claim. Such gambits only occur in non-flavoured closed setup games. They're way too hard to pull in a themed game. Like, what if the supposed Mason flavour did exist in the game and came out to say: "NO. I'm NOT Masons with drealz."?? There's ONLY ONE FLAVOUR that could be Masons with drealz now, so how does he know that's not already in play if he was faking?In post 2411, Wraith wrote: Yes, it makes sense in flavor terms. But did people not already warn me that scum could easily have prepared flavor fakeclaims?
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In #2 and #3, can't we just lynch dreal when we're in mylo/lylo and there's no other mason claim?In post 2411, Wraith wrote:I think a Mason fakeclaim by dreal was intended to open a lot of possibilities for his buddies:
1. dreal claims Mason, vouched for by his scumbuddy. I don't think this was going to happen since it means that fake Mason buddy is dead meat as soon as dreal flips scum
2. dreal claims Mason, no vouch by a scumbuddy and the scumbuddy joins the wagon. This is risky because it allows the town to wagon PoE his potential partner that he was hoping would vouch for him via PoE.
3. dreal claims Mason, no vouch by a scumbuddy because the scumbuddy was already bussing him. This is pretty cunning because the town might be seduced into determining the scumbuddy via wagon PoE as per #2, which can potentially give a false clear on players who were on the dreal wagon before the claim.
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Yes, it makes sense in flavor terms. But did people not already warn me that scum could easily have prepared flavor fakeclaims?
It also means fucking nothing until the partner actually vouches for him, and that you're taking it at face value without someone backing it up is fucking suspicious.- Wraith
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Like as far as I'm concerned the short list for his partner is down to these people:
Tea and Biscuits
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It's probably not Titus because he pushed for the claim. It's not me because I say so and I've already claimed. It's probably not Infinity because he's already claimed Miller. It's probably not Shepard because he's claimed it's not him, but he could just be lying, though I think he's town and being truthful.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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