Open 680.1 C9++ | Endgame

Titus · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:31 pm

In post 9, Narna wrote:Lookie me, mod confirmed! Godbless.

I confirm nothing!

VOTE: Brian Skies

Titus · Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:35 pm

Titus · Post Post #100 (isolation #2) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:28 pm

In post 88, Green Crayons wrote:Instead of 100, can we just do 10 and lynch Umlaut?

Why? Lol sleepy no read

Titus · Post Post #151 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:17 am

VOTE: shannon

Titus · Post Post #155 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:51 am

In post 152, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 151, Titus wrote:VOTE: shannon
Is anyone allowed to ask why or are you wanting to engage Shannon herself?

You can ask.

Titus · Post Post #162 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 156, FireScreamer wrote:Why?

Vuz lols

Titus · Post Post #297 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:15 am

Can we slow down? I do has work and other games? Is shannon lynched yet?

Titus · Post Post #305 (isolation #7) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:45 am

In post 303, Umlaut wrote:
In post 297, Titus wrote:Can we slow down? I do has work and other games? Is shannon lynched yet?
I just counted and you have 180 new posts on the site in the past 24 hours, 3 of which are in this thread. "I do has work and other games" just isn't enough to account for that kind of discrepancy.

Honestly I'm not as ready as some people are to scumread you for this. While I've never met scum!Titus, I've heard she's pretty crafty, so I don't believe she has a tell this blatant. But... what gives?

Trying to find gems in crap is insane. I just know shannon's scum.

Like whowver else has 3 votes prolly town too

Titus · Post Post #311 (isolation #8) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:41 am

*shrug* the votes talk to me.

There is no good case d1.

Titus · Post Post #344 (isolation #9) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:27 am

In post 342, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 311, Titus wrote:*shrug* the votes talk to me.

There is no good case d1.
So there's no reason for you to not join literally any other bandwagon that actually has votes (including the largest), so you can get to your vote count analysis?

Vca gives me info about players in relation to each other. I see a bunch of white letters on black paper.

Titus · Post Post #390 (isolation #10) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:23 am

Green Crayons is scum. Too much whining.

Titus · Post Post #401 (isolation #11) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:44 am

In post 398, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 390, Titus wrote:Green Crayons is scum. Too much whining.
Please explain this. Is your gameplan this game just to echo my suspicions or what?

Is there a word that is hard to define? I'm in a cranky mood.

I don't even know who you suspect. I have two suspicions at the moment.

Titus · Post Post #403 (isolation #12) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:35 pm

VOTE: Green Crayons

Titus · Post Post #407 (isolation #13) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:38 pm

In post 405, Narna wrote:Sorry for being afk yesterday.

Meh. I've been af brain sooo...

Titus · Post Post #523 (isolation #14) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:02 am

Omgus wall ewwww

Titus · Post Post #524 (isolation #15) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:02 am

In post 501, CommKnight wrote:Well at this point if FS flips red, I think we'd have quite a few associates to look at.

Fs might be scum, might be lynchbait.

Titus · Post Post #527 (isolation #16) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:09 am

What's your read on FS?

Titus · Post Post #614 (isolation #17) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:57 pm

I'll read this tomorrow.

Titus · Post Post #651 (isolation #18) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:51 am

Ok, I'm reading this up now. I haven't read in ages, so I'll just post my thoughts at the end, unless I get distracted/bored.

Titus · Post Post #663 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:07 am

I'm just going to read the VCs later. I need a nap.

Titus · Post Post #677 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:23 am

No one cares. You're spamming the game you two.

Titus · Post Post #698 (isolation #21) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:53 am

Ugh, I hate games that devolve into camps...

Titus · Post Post #702 (isolation #22) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:59 am

In post 700, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 698, Titus wrote:Ugh, I hate games that devolve into camps...
Define the camps as you see them please.

I'll do that if we ever get close to lynching someone.

Titus · Post Post #704 (isolation #23) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:03 am

In post 703, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 702, Titus wrote:
In post 700, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 698, Titus wrote:Ugh, I hate games that devolve into camps...
Define the camps as you see them please.
I'll do that if we ever get close to lynching someone.
Play the gaaaaaaaaame Titus.

Are you gonna be this evasive on everything? If I spend time trying to think of questions for you is it going to go nowhere? Have you explained why you defined me as lynchbait yet?

No. I just need energy.
*shrug* Depends on the question, but right now, probably.
Nope.

Titus · Post Post #718 (isolation #24) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:44 pm

I'm not voting CommKnight.

Titus · Post Post #721 (isolation #25) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:38 pm

In post 719, Umlaut wrote:UNVOTE: CommKnight
It's too early to lynch and I think we've gotten what we can out of this wagon. The premature claim is also making me think CK really is just like this, so I probably have to meta-dive him at some point for comparison.

VOTE: Titus
Start playing.

Ok. I am. Shannon and Green Crayons were scum.

Are you the third bailing on a bad lynch or what?

Titus · Post Post #728 (isolation #26) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:45 pm

In post 727, Umlaut wrote:We have more than half the day left.

It's not the claiming VT, it's the claiming at L-2 that is sounding lynchbait alarms for me. Scum can be lynchbait too but I want to think about it more, and meanwhile there are other things worth pursuing today too.

Lynchbait really?

Thoughts on Dave?

Titus · Post Post #729 (isolation #27) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:46 pm

Brian, we still have like 4 vanity wagons. That bugs me.

Titus · Post Post #739 (isolation #28) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:28 pm

In post 731, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 729, Titus wrote:Brian, we still have like 4 vanity wagons. That bugs me.
I guess. But since when do we not have vanity wagons? And some of the other players are just not around.

I know you prefer Shannon or Green Crayons, but no one's going to care about those wagons if they don't have a reason to support it. Why do you like the Green Crayons wagon?

Gut. Wagon analysis. But the latter is waining.

Titus · Post Post #814 (isolation #29) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:36 am

Hmm,

Shannon Umlaut GC

That's highly likely scums.

Titus · Post Post #822 (isolation #30) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:19 am

In post 817, Gamma Emerald wrote:Titus can you explain those pls.

Vote histories.

I could swap out Umlaut for FS though.

Titus · Post Post #823 (isolation #31) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:20 am

Or GC.

Titus · Post Post #826 (isolation #32) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:34 am

In post 824, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 822, Titus wrote:
In post 817, Gamma Emerald wrote:Titus can you explain those pls.
Vote histories.

I could swap out Umlaut for FS though.
In depth there please champ. Make your case. Don't just encourage people to go look at X thing with your opinion prebiasing them.

No. There is no good case d1 barring someone planning to murder the IC and even that fails sometimes.

Titus · Post Post #829 (isolation #33) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:54 am

In post 828, Gamma Emerald wrote:Titus stop with the "no good case D1" shit pls it's a headache

Ok, then stop asking me for a good case.

Titus · Post Post #831 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:59 am

In post 830, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just want A case, good is optional

My case is the votes speak to me. The VCs suggest CommKnight town, shannon scum. FireStarter's vote pattern is different. GC reasonless got sheeps but Shannon didn't. GC and CommKnight has high odds of scum but CommKnight town. So GC has conflicting info. Umlaut votes after CommKnight not lynchable.

Pretty much stuff like that is my case.

Titus · Post Post #833 (isolation #35) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:02 am

In post 832, FireScreamer wrote:I don't care if there is no good day 1 case. People contributing toward day 1 cases is how we form a better day 2 case. This is an iterative process and you are sabotaging it Titus.

No, I am not. Sorry. You can read me. I still take stances on everything. Sorry not sorry I won't vote town.

Titus · Post Post #835 (isolation #36) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:40 am

In post 834, FireScreamer wrote:I very clearly cannot read you. Do more things. Give me a fighting chance. Sort and be sorted. Don't just turtle up.

I don't think you are reading me anyway.

Titus · Post Post #848 (isolation #37) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:22 am

In post 846, Alchemist21 wrote:Oh hey did anyone else see Campbell's Soup got banned? Serves him right.

Why?

Titus · Post Post #856 (isolation #38) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:50 am

Oh Firescreamer has a wagon.

VOTE: FireScreamer

Titus · Post Post #911 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:05 pm

Brian join me? My gut feels Rory is town, or maybe that's my ego.

Titus · Post Post #923 (isolation #40) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:16 pm

Thanks.

Titus · Post Post #986 (isolation #41) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:40 am

Oh yeah definitely camps here.

Titus · Post Post #988 (isolation #42) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:43 am

In post 150, ThinkBig wrote:
VC 1.5
Official Vote Count

Necta
(3): davesaz, Alchemist21, CommKnight

Umlaut
(3): Green Crayons, Narna, FireScreamer

Brian Skies
(1): Titus

Alchemist21
(1): RoryMK

FireScreamer
(1): FrankJaeger

FrankJaeger
(1): shannon

shannon
(1): Umlaut

Not Voting
(2): Brian Skies, Necta

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

In post 500, ThinkBig wrote:
VC 1.12
Official Vote Count

CommKnight
(4): Green Crayons, Umlaut, RoryMK, FireScreamer

Green Crayons
(3): Brian Skies, Titus, Narna

FireScreamer
(2): FrankJaeger, CommKnight

FrankJaeger
(1): shannon

Titus
(1): davesaz

RoryMK
(1): Alchemist21

Not Voting
(1): Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

In post 575, ThinkBig wrote:
1.14
Official Vote Count

Green Crayons
(4): Brian Skies, Titus, Narna, Alchemist21

CommKnight
(3): Umlaut, RoryMK, FireScreamer

Brian Skies
(2): Green Crayons, Gamma Emerald

FireScreamer
(2): FrankJaeger, CommKnight

Titus
(1): davesaz

FrankJaeger
(1): shannon

Not Voting
(0):
None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

In post 605, ThinkBig wrote:
VC 1.15
Official Vote Count

Green Crayons
(5): Brian Skies, Titus, Narna, Alchemist21, CommKnight

CommKnight
(3): Umlaut, RoryMK, FireScreamer

Brian Skies
(2): Green Crayons, Gamma Emerald

FrankJaeger
(1): shannon

Titus
(1): davesaz

FireScreamer
(1): FrankJaeger

Not Voting
(0):
None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

In post 640, ThinkBig wrote:
VC 1.16-

CommKnight
(5): Umlaut, RoryMK, FireScreamer, Brian Skies, shannon
-- L-2 --

Green Crayons
(4): Titus, Narna, Alchemist21, CommKnight

Titus
(1): davesaz

Alchemist21
(1): Green Crayons

FireScreamer
(1): FrankJaeger

Not Voting
(1): Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

In post 983, ThinkBig wrote:
VOTE COUNT
FireScreamer
(4): FrankJaeger, CommKnight, Titus, Brian Skies

Gamma Emerald
(4): Narna, FireScreamer, Umlaut, Alchemist21

Alchemist21
(2): Green Crayons, shannon

Titus
(1): davesaz

CommKnight
(1): RoryMK

Not Voting
(1): Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

Titus · Post Post #989 (isolation #43) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:44 am

I need to go through that, but we keep hitting wagon stall outs.

Titus · Post Post #992 (isolation #44) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:45 am

In post 990, FireScreamer wrote:Its week 1 day 1. Every wagon stalls out.

You keep getting defensive and no, not every wagon stalls out.

Titus · Post Post #994 (isolation #45) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:51 am

In post 993, FireScreamer wrote:Defensive how? Show examples. Isn't being defensive a natural reaction to being attacked?

Saying there are camps is not an attack.

Titus · Post Post #1026 (isolation #46) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:09 am

Firebringer. Hi. I has a case of de lurks.

Titus · Post Post #1046 (isolation #47) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:21 am

Alchemist might be scum.

Umlaut is not town.

Titus · Post Post #1072 (isolation #48) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:34 am

In post 1051, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1046, Titus wrote:Alchemist might be scum.

Umlaut is not town.
Why not say umlaut is scum?

Also u sure on alchemist? Cause we got history of same alignments that's like 20 games straight

Not 100% sure. I am just vote pattern guessing tbh.

Titus · Post Post #1073 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:34 am

In post 1068, Firebringer wrote:
Titus lead me to victory!!!

If you're town, ok.

Titus · Post Post #1092 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:48 am

In post 1090, FireScreamer wrote:And yet is building a wagon to me without giving a chance to argue for my behaviour.

Find scum.

Titus · Post Post #1104 (isolation #51) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:08 am

In post 1095, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1092, Titus wrote:
In post 1090, FireScreamer wrote:And yet is building a wagon to me without giving a chance to argue for my behaviour.
Find scum.
Gamma.

CommKnight

Take your pick.

Neither.

Titus · Post Post #1105 (isolation #52) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:08 am

In post 1100, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1011, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Fire

ThinkBig just count the one that's on scum.
You know which one I am talking about.

You really want to make my life difficult, don't you?
It's about time you showed up. Goddamn this about to be both lit af and confusing af.

So the game will be like being on weed.

Titus · Post Post #1108 (isolation #53) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:23 am

In post 1106, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1104, Titus wrote:
In post 1095, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1092, Titus wrote:
In post 1090, FireScreamer wrote:And yet is building a wagon to me without giving a chance to argue for my behaviour.
Find scum.
Gamma.

CommKnight

Take your pick.
Neither.
Well thats what I have so far. Though theres plenty of day left.

So you're supposing there's only two scum? Ok.

Titus · Post Post #1111 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:32 am

In post 1110, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1108, Titus wrote:
In post 1106, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1104, Titus wrote:
In post 1095, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1092, Titus wrote:
In post 1090, FireScreamer wrote:And yet is building a wagon to me without giving a chance to argue for my behaviour.
Find scum.
Gamma.

CommKnight

Take your pick.
Neither.
Well thats what I have so far. Though theres plenty of day left.
So you're supposing there's only two scum? Ok.
No I am just saying I don't have scumreads anywhere at the level of those two yet.

Ok, then work on those. I'm not voting Gamma or CommKnight.

Titus · Post Post #1177 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:20 pm

In post 1161, davesaz wrote:I'm more convinced than ever that Titus is scum. Her misuse of VCA is almost exclusively a scum thing, especially D1 VCA and especially the way she's going about it. "The votes speak to me"?? Really, that's town? I don't think so!! Yes, she does occasionally misuse VCA as town, and she does occasionally use it correctly, but in this case I think she's trying to use that quasi-town meta as a smokescreen for her scum game.

Votes speaking to me is not VCA.

Titus · Post Post #1180 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:39 pm

In post 1171, shannon wrote:
In post 1163, Umlaut wrote:Dave, I could likely be sold on Titus but there are two things stopping me:
I've never played with Titus in this mode and can't pattern-match what she's doing to any particular scum MO. You seem to have more experience there so maybe you can point me to relevant examples of Titus' use and misuse of VCA.

I was certain she was scum last roll and I was completely wrong. Her play is obviously very
different
this time, and the circumstances are different too (she's not death-tunneling me this time for one), but all the same I'd really like to hear more from players who correctly townread Titus last game. (My first choice would be Narna except I'm not really townreading him.)
Last game I was sure she was town, her actions were 100% what I know of town titus. (I've played with her as town maybe 4 or 5 times now? Neither of us has ever been scum in a game we've shared). Regarding pattern matching, her actions here don't match what I know of Town Titus. You are right that she's different. Whether that's because she's rolled a PR, rolled SK, or rolled Scum, or just busy IRL, IDK.

Bored of d1.

Titus · Post Post #1181 (isolation #57) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:40 pm

Umlaut firescreamer alchemist scumteam

Davesaz sk

Final guess

Titus · Post Post #1224 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:52 am

In post 1191, shannon wrote:
In post 1181, Titus wrote:Umlaut firescreamer alchemist scumteam

Davesaz sk

Final guess
While the undeniable benefit of not having two fire-persons in the game can't be understated, I'd prefer you to bus Alchemist please

I regret my last post already.

Titus · Post Post #1237 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:58 am

In post 1233, CommKnight wrote:@Alchemist, well my reads list is currently like this.

TR: Firebringer, Alchemist, Brian Skies, Gamma Emerald and Narna.
TL: Green Crayons
Neutral: daves and Titus
SL: RoryMK, Umlaut and shannon
SR: FireScreamer

Now if FireScreamer flips green, I'd probably be more inclined to look into Titus. But it seems to me that others are seeing similar play in FS that I'm seeing, so I don't think he will flip green. Also Brian and others pointed out something I didn't really notice. FS early threats were like he KNOWS I'm town. But doesn't want me to be looking at him and he wants something easy to defend against but his overall play screams scum.

I'm still on the fence about Umlaut but if I had to pick with a gun to my head. I'd say FS, Umlaut and possibly shannon being scum this game with Rory, daves or Titus being possible SK.

These reads are awfully similar to mine.

Titus · Post Post #1240 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:39 am

In post 1235, Narna wrote:
In post 1225, Firebringer wrote:TITUS!!!!
Change your avi.

The penguin Zorro has gotten old fast.

But it was a gift by Ether

Ok I'll look into changing it when less busy

Titus · Post Post #1241 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:40 am

In post 1239, davesaz wrote:Actually, let's dig into it a bit more. What evidence can you give that Comm's reads are similar to yours?

This is why you're in my scumreads. You seem to pay zero attention to my reads or anyone else that posts. I've been posting near blanket reads for awhile, and CommKnights are similar to pretty much the only things I've been posting, and you're asking to basically quote the last posts along with CommKnight. What gives man?

Titus · Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:35 am

In post 1244, davesaz wrote:Also nice job avoiding the 1st question. Supposing your reads are indeed similar to Comm's -- what does it mean that they're similar?

I don't know. That's why I asked CommKnight.

Titus · Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:37 pm

In post 1249, davesaz wrote:I can't speak for Comm but I didn't see Titus's post as a question. Did it look like one to you?

Are you semanticing the fuck out of my questions and chainsawing the fuck so he doesn't have to answer or address the concerns?

Alchemist is addressing the concerns at least, but still interrupting.

Titus · Post Post #1278 (isolation #64) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:51 am

In post 1277, Firebringer wrote:What?

Titus · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:29 am

@Davesaz, Why are you voting FS?

Titus · Post Post #1339 (isolation #66) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:44 am

Yawn.

Titus · Post Post #1341 (isolation #67) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:21 am

Narna, can you just vote FS?

Titus · Post Post #1347 (isolation #68) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:56 am

In post 1344, Narna wrote:
In post 1343, Narna wrote:Why can't you join me on GE Titusa?

Because GE is town and FS isn't.

Titus · Post Post #1354 (isolation #69) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:39 am

In post 1352, Firebringer wrote:@Titus Why aren't you talking to me more this game?

Your new av is cute.

I need murder.

Titus · Post Post #1361 (isolation #70) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:56 am

In post 1360, Firebringer wrote:Narna is town.

No shit.

Titus · Post Post #1364 (isolation #71) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:59 am

In post 1362, Firebringer wrote:Titus our friendship is over.
Please return the friendship badge I gave you.

Noooooo. I love you though.

Titus · Post Post #1365 (isolation #72) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:00 am

I just get cranky with a lack of murder.

Titus · Post Post #1369 (isolation #73) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:37 am

Wait Shannon subbed out?

Titus · Post Post #1500 (isolation #74) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:21 pm

VOTE: davesaz

Titus · Post Post #1504 (isolation #75) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:29 pm

In post 1503, Brian Skies wrote:And I don't think a single person has given a decent reason for lynching Dave as it is.

Davesaz has been tunnelling me all game and not focused on the game as a whole.

Titus · Post Post #1507 (isolation #76) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:35 pm

In post 1506, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1504, Titus wrote:
In post 1503, Brian Skies wrote:And I don't think a single person has given a decent reason for lynching Dave as it is.
Davesaz has been tunnelling me all game and not focused on the game as a whole.
This isn't true. He has placed focus elsewhere in most of his posts.

Not how I see it.

Titus · Post Post #1513 (isolation #77) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:18 am

Oh shannon's slot OMGUSes and we have town refusing to compromise.

Titus · Post Post #1516 (isolation #78) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:29 am

In post 1515, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1513, Titus wrote:Oh shannon's slot OMGUSes and we have town refusing to compromise.
Who is the compromise wagon here apart from me?

Davesaz, you're on it. Not thrilled about it but davesaz is scummy.

Titus · Post Post #1519 (isolation #79) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:33 am

In post 1517, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1516, Titus wrote:
In post 1515, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1513, Titus wrote:Oh shannon's slot OMGUSes and we have town refusing to compromise.
Who is the compromise wagon here apart from me?
Davesaz, you're on it. Not thrilled about it but davesaz is scummy.
Do you agree that we likely have to flip Gamma tomorrow?

Have to, no. Gamma's role requires a roleblocker. When we do a letters claim, that's how we sort the possibility. Gamma should use his action tonight though. Ideally on someone wagoned but who did not claim.

Titus · Post Post #1521 (isolation #80) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:34 am

In post 1520, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1518, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1514, CommKnight wrote: I will ask for vigs to not kill tonight. We have no cop investigation and you may hit a PR. So abstain from shooting please.
Strongly disagree.
I agree here. Vigs should holster unless one shot. 1 shot vigs should shoot uncompromising lurkers.

If a vig were to shoot tonight, he'd do more harm than good.

Titus · Post Post #1522 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:35 am

In post 1521, Titus wrote:
In post 1520, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1518, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1514, CommKnight wrote: I will ask for vigs to not kill tonight. We have no cop investigation and you may hit a PR. So abstain from shooting please.
Strongly disagree.
If a vig were to shoot tonight, he'd do more harm than good.

I agree here. Vigs should holster unless one shot. 1 shot vigs should shoot uncompromising lurkers.

My quote got eaten. Ebwop.

Titus · Post Post #1526 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:40 am

In post 1523, Umlaut wrote:Titus, didn't you say last roll that one-shot RB claim was an autolynch?

I may have. I don't recall but that depended on the situation. We had a lot of letters out last game and I felt Umlaut had slipped. We worked to verify the possibility because of Umlaut being scummy.

Gamna hasn't been scummy at all and this feels like scum trying to bully a lynch through.

If we get a second non rb PR, we should do letters claim and lynch Gamma, even though he's obv town.

Titus · Post Post #1532 (isolation #83) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:32 am

In post 1530, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1513, Titus wrote:Oh shannon's slot OMGUSes and we have town refusing to compromise.
How the freak am I OMGUSing you AT ALL?

I've been calling shannon scum most of the game. You come in and vote me. OMGUS.

Titus · Post Post #1536 (isolation #84) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:39 am

In post 1534, Narna wrote:
In post 1531, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1514, CommKnight wrote:I will ask for vigs to not kill tonight. We have no cop investigation and you may hit a PR. So abstain from shooting please.
Negative! If there's a Vig they should shoot Gamma tonight
thisthisthis

It wouldn't be a bad shot, actually from setup, but I still think a vig should just holster a shot always when a slot like Gamma is obviously town.

Titus · Post Post #1540 (isolation #85) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:57 am

In post 1538, Narna wrote:Nah I kinda like Titus and am pretty confident we've got two scum in Dave and Gamma.

I think Dave+Shannon. I'm not 100% the same as last game.

Titus · Post Post #1543 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:07 am

Agreed.

Titus · Post Post #1546 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:12 am

In post 1544, Narna wrote:
In post 1540, Titus wrote:
In post 1538, Narna wrote:Nah I kinda like Titus and am pretty confident we've got two scum in Dave and Gamma.
I think Dave+Shannon. I'm not 100% the same as last game.
It could be all three, ez game. What was "not 100% the same as last game" in response to?

I misread your thing as Dave + Umlaut. I am less certain there.

Titus · Post Post #1549 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:33 am

In post 1548, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1540, Titus wrote:I think Dave+Shannon. I'm not 100% the same as last game.
Again: If you think I'm scum, PUSH ME! I DOUBLE DARE YOU.

I have your partner wagoned and this game has barely had wagons doing anything. I'm not moving. Stop trying to derail the Dave wagon.

@Umlaut, I gave you my reason. You disagreed. *shrug*

Titus · Post Post #1553 (isolation #89) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:40 am

In post 1552, Narna wrote:Ehh this does feel kind of backwards though. I can swing with either of these lynches.

VOTE: Gamma

Narna, I feel lynching Gamma is a mistake. Why would scum gamma claim a role that is likely needing to be lynched in a couple of days?

Titus · Post Post #1559 (isolation #90) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:23 am

In post 1558, davesaz wrote:
In post 1518, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1514, CommKnight wrote: I will ask for vigs to not kill tonight. We have no cop investigation and you may hit a PR. So abstain from shooting please.
Strongly disagree.
So far we have shoot Gamma and a no shoot. Don't remember who it was who said shoot Gamma.

Great, what is your stance. That's a scummary.

Titus · Post Post #1564 (isolation #91) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:14 am

You've got to be kidding me.

This is ridiculous but whatever. I have real life, I'll be back tonight.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:19 am

In post 1570, Green Crayons wrote:I'm ambivalent on Gamma. M

aybe I undervalue roleblockers, but I really don't care about town RBers. I'd be perfectly okay if we agreed that full-time RBer would claim so we can either clear Gamma + <other> (subject to scum gambit paranoia) or just lynch Gamma and be done with it.

I am ok with this. Then we can lynch Dave.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:22 am

I'd rather cut the crap and lynch Dave.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:22 am

But not rb.

Titus · Post Post #1630 (isolation #95) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:07 pm

Almost50 is just scum. Regardless of anyone else's alignment. I read him pretty well and this looks like Smackdown.

No Comm.

If we want to lynch scum

Dave Shannon.

Titus · Post Post #1633 (isolation #96) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:13 pm

In post 1632, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh lol thought you were talking to A50

I am sick and struggling sorry. They are the same.

Titus · Post Post #1657 (isolation #97) » Mon May 01, 2017 4:24 am

In post 1640, Brian Skies wrote:I would lynch Titus over Dave and would still love to lynch Rory (who's been avoiding this game since Wednesday).

Are you saying he's posting elsewhere?

Titus · Post Post #1660 (isolation #98) » Mon May 01, 2017 4:29 am

In post 1645, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1630, Titus wrote:Almost50 is just scum. Regardless of anyone else's alignment. I read him pretty well and this looks like Smackdown.

No Comm.

If we want to lynch scum

Dave Shannon.
1- What does my play here have to do with Smackdown?
2- I challenged you once, and I challenged twice, but you opted to deflect. Maybe 3rd time is lucky?? Let's make this an unofficial gladiate between you and me, shall we?

You were scum in Smackdown.
I am always willing to vote you. You seem to want a pages distraction to warrant lynching me or my claim. Nope. If you don't nk me, we can fight tomorrow, as I do not think you are lynchable today.

Did you claim rb or not rb?

Titus · Post Post #1663 (isolation #99) » Mon May 01, 2017 4:31 am

I don't see an rb claim yet. I am starting to think I am wrong on Gamma, but his play is so obvtown.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:35 am

In post 1664, Firebringer wrote:Titus......don't anger growlithe

?

I haven't even read half of these 1 v 1s?

My scum rads, but for Dave and shannon/A50 are stale as fuck.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:35 am

VOTE: Gamma

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:41 am

In post 1675, Firebringer wrote:No one currently townreads me besides Titus.
I am very viable wagon for those who want it.

Not sure why it isn't happening given the amount of people who seem to want it.

Probably because scum have a higher priority mislynch. If Dave and A50 mislynch me, who would listen to me?

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:48 am

In post 1681, Firebringer wrote:Titus I mean this in the kindest way I can be, but....you need to ease the ego.
Not saying your bad or w/e but having inflated ego can be very detrimental to mafia games.

Just try to enter the game that not everyone is reacting to what you are doing, and then you might get a clearer idea of what's going on

Please don't suppose I am thinking like that.

A mislynch already present is a common premise in my vote wagon motion and VCA theories and one I detailed when I was not a wagon in this game.

If this was ego, I would be voting A50 all game and telling you to take a long walk off a short pier.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:53 am

In post 1690, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1686, Titus wrote:take a long walk off a short pier.
Is this a common expression for people? Because that's fucking hilarious!

It's one I use to say, go fuck yourself.

But seriously, dave and A50 slot are not town at all.

No one is claiming rb, which suggests my gamma read is wrong.

That makes gg unless I am wrong. So I am not surprised I am wagoned now. *shrug*

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:57 am

In post 1696, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1694, Titus wrote:
In post 1690, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1686, Titus wrote:take a long walk off a short pier.
Is this a common expression for people? Because that's fucking hilarious!
It's one I use to say, go fuck yourself.

But seriously, dave and A50 slot are not town at all.

No one is claiming rb, which suggests my gamma read is wrong.

That makes gg unless I am wrong. So I am not surprised I am wagoned now. *shrug*
Sort of makes sense why I am A50's secondary target as well.

Are you agreeing dave and A50 are scum or just A50?

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 5:01 am

In post 1704, Firebringer wrote:Can I literally sell another lynch today on someone else besides my tip townreads of gamma and Titus.
Anyone?

Fire, I get gamma looks town by play. I agree with you but I don't think anyone can be rb here.

If there is, we have an innocent child here.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 5:09 am

In post 1700, Umlaut wrote:Okay, going from "Titus is a good lynch" to "Titus is probable scum."

She's voting her townread after saying it was stupid to lynch him today and his claim was solid, because
In post 1663, Titus wrote:I don't see an rb claim yet. I am starting to think I am wrong on Gamma, but his play is so obvtown.
That's a pretty weird reason to turn around completely, especially given that people are
explicitly
not claiming and Titus herself said she'd rather just hurry up and lynch Dave.

Hey, I wonder if the most recent VC can help us figure out what changed her mind.
In post 1635, Aristophanes wrote:
Official Vote Count

Titus
(4): Almost50, Umlaut, davesaz, Brian Skies

Gamma Emerald
(4): RoryMK, Alchemist21, Narna, FireScreamer

davesaz
(2): Gamma Emerald, Titus

Almost50
(1): Firebringer

Alchemist21
(1): Green Crayons

Firebringer
(1): CommKnight

Not Voting
(0):
None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

Read the last line of that again too.

2.5 days until deadline. So yeah, the VC is a factor.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 5:11 am

If Gamma is town, the rb will claim, I will likely be mislynched and just say follow FireScreamer. I am aware of that but a deadline scramble is terrible here given the sheer number of wagons today.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 5:16 am

In post 1725, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1706, Titus wrote:
In post 1704, Firebringer wrote:Can I literally sell another lynch today on someone else besides my tip townreads of gamma and Titus.
Anyone?
Fire, I get gamma looks town by play. I agree with you but I don't think anyone can be rb here.

If there is, we have an innocent child here.
Walk me through this, please.

Gamma town requires a full rb. If gamma flips town, the full rb is an innocent child.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 5:44 am

In post 1738, Umlaut wrote:Titus says all of these things simultaneously:
the lack of an RB claim shows Gamma is probably guilty;

if the RB does claim, we should flip Gamma anyway to confirm the full RB as town; and

the RB should claim, to save Gamma.
We went through
this exact scenario
last roll, and it culminated in Titus telling me I should self-hammer to
prevent
the full RB from claiming if I was town. I don't know how she forgot that so quickly.

No. I am saying if a full rb claims, I am likely getting lynched.

Despite my heavy tr by play, there just isn't one.

I was trying to goad you into self-hammering because I knew you were scum last game. I was wrong though.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 6:04 am

In post 1761, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1757, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1755, Almost50 wrote: That'd be trading a full RB for a "very possibly" Goon while buying Gamma one more night at best.
Holy shit that sounds like a FANTASTIC deal. I'd trade actual factual full cop for a goon in a heartbeat. Let alone PLUS a confirmation of another player.
That's your prerogative. Mine is different and I learned it the hard way. If I was a Full Cop I would NOT out a GUILTY on D2 if I suspected I could get another confirmed scum by D3. Instead I would out them BOTH on D3.

I highly doubt this is honest after you seeing my play in Wake's game.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 6:12 am

In post 1771, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 1759, Almost50 wrote: And I'm not claiming anything, btw. I'm neither confirming nor denying being one role or another.
Tomorrow might be another day though.
This is manipulative softing and i've already explained your motivation for it.

Agreed.

Why couldn't you post like this at daystart?

I wonder where Gamma is.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 6:44 am

In post 1775, CommKnight wrote:I'm glad A50 replaced in. He's dragging Titus and FS through the mud and they don't even understand how.

Titus today, FS claims tomorrow and if he doesn't cliam PAGE 1 of D2.. He dies. No exceptions.

@Full RB, stay hidden. We're NOT lynching Gamma today and getting yourself killed in a game with likely zero doctors is not a bright move. Those who have toyed with the RB/Not RB shit will face trial by fire tomorrow when Titus flips red.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Grow the fuck up and lynch Gamma scum.

I know Almost50 and his ability to appear obvtown as scum.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:03 am

In post 1784, FireScreamer wrote:Titus would you?

No.

I don't want another wagon today.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:04 am

Dave A50 or Gamma are the only places I am willing to vote.

I just don't think Comm likes actually having to grow up and lynch Gamma.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:10 am

Nah, no one answers questions. That's how you get wagoned.

This is 70 pages and needs to stop.

Lynch me or lynch Gamma fire.

If this goes to 100 pages D1, I am subbing out.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:16 am

In post 1795, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1792, Titus wrote:Lynch me or lynch Gamma fire.

If this goes to 100 pages D1, I am subbing out.
I am not lynching either of you two.
I just said that was the one thing I wasn't willing to do.

Why are you trying to make me do the ONE thing, I said I won't do?

Because a gamma scumflip breaks the game.

I'm not getting my top scumreads either. I'm not happy.

But you need to reassess gamma and if you won't, I'm dead anyway, so... might as well not prolong it.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:37 am

In post 1800, Green Crayons wrote:I've only skimmed the last five pages. Am I hammering if I vote anyone?

Maybe me, but at this point I don't really care.

My ploy to take a bullet isn't going to work.
Scum aren't getting lynched unless it's A50 Dave or maybe Gamma

and I'm not getting votes on A50 or Dave sooo

Day needs to end

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:45 am

In post 1806, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1804, Titus wrote:Scum aren't getting lynched unless it's A50 Dave or maybe Gamma
Not a fan of A50's posting that I've skimmed.

Hate that he replaced shannon because I liked her, but willing to admit that's because she actually read the bad GC/Alchemist ring-a-round and agreed with me about voting Alchemist.

In post 1807, Green Crayons wrote:@Titus: Can you tell me why Dave other than him tunneling you?

Yeah and I think that's buddying you there. It was all t v t drown out. Like in my mafia discussion page, if it's longer than 2 pages back and forth, no one is reading that shit.

Dave hasn't done anything BUT tunnel me. If he had, I might be able to answer your question GC.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:59 am

In post 1812, Brian Skies wrote:VOTE: Gamma

We're lynching Rory tomorrow.

No.

Dave or a50.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:59 am

In post 1812, Brian Skies wrote:VOTE: Gamma

We're lynching Rory tomorrow.

Why did you hammer though?

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:09 am

Almost50, what's your read on me if Gamma flips scum?

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:15 am

In post 1824, FireScreamer wrote:A50 status at realizing we pushed through his chainsaw : Shook

Would be surprised if he posted in twilight tbh.

We have time. Let's wait on Brian to catch up and Almost to respond to what we have. Twilight gloating doesn't help town scumhunt unless there's actual scumhunting going on.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:24 am

Regardless, I'm scumhunting on my wagon tomorrow.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:45 am

In post 1840, Brian Skies wrote:Sure. Adding more people to the questioning pool will not make me answer the question.

Titus didn't lead the wagon, she moved over most likely out of survivalism. So Almost50 ignoring the possibility of a bus is bad. Even if Titus is town here, deferring her actions to another player is also dumb because it defers responsibility and it's not like Titus is some sort of scumhunting god.

100% agreement.

It also shows a total lack of scumhunting by A50 and listening to what I say.

Why should a survivalist vote warrant near total sheeping? I had to get someone town to vote me at some point today.

Totally sheeping me would likely mean we'd be voting him or Dave, the other slot that basically tunnelled me. That's a near admission that Almost's play has been scummy.

I'm not 100% sure if this comes out clear, but I'm just trying to get this out before lock.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:48 am

In post 1849, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1840, Brian Skies wrote:Even if Titus is town here, deferring her actions to another player is also dumb because it defers responsibility
Will vote on this alone.

Are you saying you'd vote me or Almost?

There's a grammatical error in that quote (namely Brian is talking Almost50 deferring to me is scummy) but it sounds like I'm the one deferring in that selected quote.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:54 am

In post 1852, Brian Skies wrote:Well, his instead of her, but it should be obvious based on context.

You know what happens when you assume...

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:57 am

In post 1858, Brian Skies wrote:Also, since Gamma's actually here now, I guess I don't mind explaining why I hammered, namely being that I don't have a reason. I just don't think he's that particularly scummy or townish to begin with and half of you were talking about policy lynching him regardless. I also don't think claim makes alignment so whatever.

Maybe with his flip and a new day, I can actually get some of you to help me with Rory. Or get lynched. Idrc. Getting out of this shitfest of a game seems like a decent consolation prize.

I'm not voting you regardless of how accurate or inaccurate I view your reads unless you ask me to. I am pretty sure you are town.

If Gamma flips town, and if Narna or Rory are on my wagon, they're first up for reassessment.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:58 am

In post 1860, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1857, Titus wrote:
In post 1852, Brian Skies wrote:Well, his instead of her, but it should be obvious based on context.
You know what happens when you assume...
Well, I mess up pronouns all the time. Context is your best friend.

Yup, but it's not you I'm concerned with on context. GC took only the part with the error which changed the meaning.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 9:48 am

In post 1877, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1868, Umlaut wrote:That was terrible. We had two days left
I will never condone delaying a lynch 'just because we have time.' That's how deadline scrambles happen and those rarely hit town (especially since scum don't have to show up and are unlikely to bus their buddies at that point).

Read my working with town guide.

This myth is terribad.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 10:00 am

In post 1881, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1879, Titus wrote:
In post 1877, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1868, Umlaut wrote:That was terrible. We had two days left
I will never condone delaying a lynch 'just because we have time.' That's how deadline scrambles happen and those rarely hit town (especially since scum don't have to show up and are unlikely to bus their buddies at that point).
Read my working with town guide.

This myth is terribad.
This is from own personal experience. So yeah, I'm not going to read your guide.

You're not someone who has trouble with working with town so *shrug*

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 10:15 am

In post 1889, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1887, Titus wrote:
In post 1881, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1879, Titus wrote:
In post 1877, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1868, Umlaut wrote:That was terrible. We had two days left
I will never condone delaying a lynch 'just because we have time.' That's how deadline scrambles happen and those rarely hit town (especially since scum don't have to show up and are unlikely to bus their buddies at that point).
Read my working with town guide.

This myth is terribad.
This is from own personal experience. So yeah, I'm not going to read your guide.
You're not someone who has trouble with working with town so *shrug*
I lied and actually looked at your guide. But based on what I read there, I don't think this was directed at me.

Correct. It's at Umlaut.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 10:20 am

In post 1899, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1897, Titus wrote:Correct. It's at Umlaut.
I read it, it's a good guide.

Thank you.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 11:02 am

In post 1913, Narna wrote:oh hypothetical vig, holster the gun. Or shoot Davey if you see what I sees about policying him. If this is scum, shoot him anyway.

Can you repeat this? I don't recall it.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 1915, Alchemist21 wrote:They're gonna let twilight last until 90-something pages then lock the thread when we have our high hopes for 100 pages.

Funny, but leggo my eggo is a better meme.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 3:14 pm

Need to host on a secure server.

Titus · Wed May 03, 2017 11:30 am

VOTE: A50

Hi.

Titus · Wed May 03, 2017 12:42 pm

In post 1937, Almost50 wrote:Hi to you too.

I actually don't have the face to argue against my own lynch, but we can sure spend sometime talking. No?

For example, we have 2 Cs and we probably don't have a V. We also are very likely without a SK, and the way the Gamma lynch went it looks we don't have a B either.

So CC+MM+D+TT ???

I'm a VT btw, so you won't lose much if you lynch me. I'm just saying.

Your reads would be nice. Your speculation reeks of mason fishing.

Titus · Wed May 03, 2017 12:59 pm

In post 1940, Umlaut wrote:Oh yeah and

VOTE: CommKnight

I already wanted him yesterday, the Gamma flip only makes it worse.

And not Dave or A50?

Titus · Wed May 03, 2017 1:09 pm

The lynchpool should be those that didn't want rb claims or to lynch gamma.

Titus · Wed May 03, 2017 6:45 pm

Guys Brian slot is town and was town. He just wanted to end the day.

VOTE: davesaz

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:28 am

Ok, Davesaz's reads are more about getting me lynched than finding scum at this point.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:16 am

In post 1998, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1993, CommKnight wrote:Also LOL at Rory and Umlaut.
Speaking of bussing above, check last game. I wasn't afraid to go after either of my scum buddies.
In fact I recall willing to trade one for GC by trying to connect the two. I legit TR'd a scummy. I'm not perfect and even my previous games has me TR'ing one scummy usually out of a 3-man team.

In post 1997, CommKnight wrote:Titus was a counter-wagon and
daves was voted by confirmed scum. So I'll slot them in town-leans.[/]

Scum voting other scum rather than the counter is a safe place for distancing if Gamma expected to go down.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 12:52 pm

In post 2034, Almost50 wrote:On another note, I've just won a Dayless game that I subbed into on N2, and managed to call both scums remaining when I was a mere Fruit Vendor. What does that tell you? That I have games when I spot on and thus can work out links and call the entire team. Gistou should tell you that I also have games where I get off a shitty start and then never recover from it.

Then sheep my vote until davesaz gives a scumteam without me on it.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 1:57 pm

In post 2039, davesaz wrote:
In post 2036, Titus wrote:
In post 2034, Almost50 wrote:On another note, I've just won a Dayless game that I subbed into on N2, and managed to call both scums remaining when I was a mere Fruit Vendor. What does that tell you? That I have games when I spot on and thus can work out links and call the entire team. Gistou should tell you that I also have games where I get off a shitty start and then never recover from it.
Then sheep my vote until davesaz gives a scumteam without me on it.
Try doing something even vaguely town motivated. As far as I'm concerned you spent the entirety of day 1 explaining nothing, and day 2 what I can remember is solely complaints about what I'm doing. It looks to me like you're tunneled on me, not vice versa.

I don't think you get it. There is a huge difference between being confident in a scumread and being tunnelled. Tunneling is focusing on a player to the exclusion of all else. I'm confident in my read, but I'm also paying attention to others who disagree. If those others look town then I'm willing to work with them.

You are not my only scumread. I'm not voting which should tell you something -- I don't know if it's me that's wrong. In the meantime how about you do the same thing you're asking me to do, and look elsewhere.

Rather than whining about being caught for wrong reasons, you can state your scumreads.

I explained enough. People know where I stand and why.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 2:23 pm

In post 2041, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2038, ThinkBig wrote:
Mod NoteI am back!!! Many thanks to Aristophanes for his super awesome modding. I am pleased to say that I am doing a lot better.
Welcome back, mate

This

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 8:47 pm

Can we just lynch Dave?

Titus · Sat May 06, 2017 5:17 am

Can dave be lynched yet?

Titus · Sat May 06, 2017 7:44 pm

Comm either you're scum or your reads are shit. Suppose no scum bussed and I am town. What do your reads look like?

Titus · Sun May 07, 2017 3:22 am

Intent to hammer

Cloud, you're either scum or in the way of lynching scum and frankly, I don't care. I want A50 or Davesaz but I will settle for you. Especially when you wall in a manner that straight up dodges my question.

Titus · Sun May 07, 2017 3:36 am

Oh right. He claimed VT.

Brian is town, so his replacement will be too.

VOTE: CommKnight

No more dodging questions. We lynch A50 or Davesaz tomorrow. Not engaging in a yelling match.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 5:49 am

Well I know why FS felt off.

Really vig? You shot Brian and not Davesaz or Almost? Cmon man.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 5:50 am

VOTE: davesaz

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 10:56 am

In post 2181, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2174, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 2172, RoryMK wrote:She's yelling at the vig for not shooting dave and then votes dave.
She also knew which one wasn't the scum kill.
What vig would shoot Firescreamer?

He was universal TR.

Can we get to business now Fire?

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 11:32 am

In post 2183, Firebringer wrote:What kind of business?
Also you promised to change Avis.

Do it!

Make me one?

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 2:04 pm

In post 2186, Green Crayons wrote:So Titus.

dave vote still because he's tunneling you?

And done no scumhunting yup.

Same with Almost but he bussed yesterday so Dave is my preference.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 3:22 pm

Who said Dave is a vig?

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 6:52 pm

In post 2194, Umlaut wrote:Um, if Titus doesn't know Dave claimed vig that's
another
knowledge slip, since she immediately attributed the kill to a vig.

Of course. Brian was scumread. I don't see an SK here, unless it happens to be Dave.

We can prove me wrong or not. You can pretend my familiarity with this setup is knowledge slips or not. I watch open setups and I watch people. We can do this dance again, or you can save yourself a headache and sheep me.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 6:58 pm

In post 2202, RoryMK wrote:Titus, if there's no SK, Dave is a vig. You realize that, right??

Right. My presumption was that Almost Dave as scum, but if Dave is as you say a claimed Vig then Dave most likely isn't group scum, which makes my inital assumption of a vig less likely to be accurate.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 6:58 pm

That also explains why Almost was willing to "bus" Dave but Dave was not willing to "bus" Almost. Almost wasn't bussing and Dave had zero desire to piss off the scumteam.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 6:59 pm

After all, if Dave's a vig, he shoots me, no questions asked. I'm a claimed VT and he's tunnelled on me for so long. Yet, he doesn't shoot me. Nope. He needs a place to be safe. Dave shooting anyone but me doesn't make sense for a vig.

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 7:09 pm

The problem is, I need one more scum with that theory and need to determine who they are.

I think it's time for a letters massclaim, but with the last mason(s) claiming VT to shield their identity. Let's put this setup to bed shall we?

Titus · Tue May 09, 2017 7:13 pm

In post 2198, Umlaut wrote:On paper TTTCCMM is actually the single most probable setup (~44%), but it implies a serial killer who decided not to kill n1, which I think is itself pretty unlikely.

You've left out both shooting the same target or a doctor heal.

Titus · Wed May 10, 2017 5:43 am

In post 2210, RoryMK wrote:
In post 2205, Titus wrote:After all, if Dave's a vig, he shoots me, no questions asked. I'm a claimed VT and he's tunnelled on me for so long. Yet, he doesn't shoot me. Nope. He needs a place to be safe. Dave shooting anyone but me doesn't make sense for a vig.
yeah, that's not how this works.

It's exactly how it works. Yet Dave is reliable to only pass the buck and is afraid to actually stick his neck out. But ok, fuck it up again.

Titus · Wed May 10, 2017 6:32 am

In post 2213, RoryMK wrote:
In post 2211, Titus wrote:
In post 2210, RoryMK wrote:
In post 2205, Titus wrote:After all, if Dave's a vig, he shoots me, no questions asked. I'm a claimed VT and he's tunnelled on me for so long. Yet, he doesn't shoot me. Nope. He needs a place to be safe. Dave shooting anyone but me doesn't make sense for a vig.
yeah, that's not how this works.
It's exactly how it works. Yet Dave is reliable to only pass the buck and is afraid to actually stick his neck out. But ok, fuck it up again.
There is no way we're lynching a claimed vig. I feel like we're back in the Pokemon game were you stubbornly kept pushing for a lynch on pretty much confirmed town as scum.

He isn't confirmed town at all. He can claim either 1 shot and be exposed by letters as sk eventually (which means no lynch today) or full claim and likely be outed as sk.

Titus · Wed May 10, 2017 8:39 am

Hmph, was I wrong on you Rory? Either you or Umlaut.

This has been nothing but posturing from you both.

Also, I think my entire wagon minus Rory is those not voting Gamma. (Needs verifying)

Titus · Wed May 10, 2017 8:43 am

In post 2221, Umlaut wrote:
In post 2215, Almost50 wrote:I'll have you know that Titus' persistence to include me in every possible scum team is pinging me hard. She is one of the very few who can read through me, and she knows my play as either alignment. She has seen the good and the bad in my play as either alignment, and there's NO WAY she is misreading me here.

So, I'll make you all an offer you can't refuse (I think): LYNCH ME. When I do flip Town, lynch Titus + Narna. That's the scum team I see right now, with Titus being the GF (and the thus the deviation from her meta of not bussing). If the game still doesn't end THEN dave is a SK. (If he is a full Vig he should shoot in Titus/Narna tonight).

I think Gamma claiming a 1-shot RB was to out the RB if any. It helped scum a LOT to decide which setup this might be. I'm not sure if they already identified the Cop or if it was a strike of luck.

Can you do this, please?
I really don't understand how you are coming to most of these conclusions.

Why do you think Titus is GF and Narna a goon, and not the other way around?
Why do you suspect Narna in the first place?
What does Titus or Narna's alignment have to do with Dave's?

Meta question for others: I've seen Almost make the "lynch me" offer as scum. Has anyone seen him do it as town?

No but I have never seen it. Scum do it if they'll feel they will lose with a particular slot alive. Town do it if they feel player X is unconvinable. I can't really see me being unconvincable here.