DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

Commander Shepard · Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:51 pm

No one going to weigh in on the question I asked?

What do you guys think of Drealmerz and infinity and why?

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:38 am

VOTE: Drealmerz

Inactivity is NAI that's why.

Wraith is effectively an IC here folks.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:39 am

People are killed for other reasons besides good reads.

TWC is a dumb kill by scum for reads because I scumread the slot hard and would have tunneled it to kingdom come.

Wraith if they haven't died by LyLO is policy.

No one fake claims BG for that reason.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:41 am

I think TWC was killed because their reads were bad.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:42 am

I am not voting a slot that has no activity over one I scumread.

Activity is NAI.

I am Town.
Wraith is almost certainly town.

Therefore CK is likely town.
Vote Drealmerz with us.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:47 am

In post 2170, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2157, shaddowez wrote:
@MOD
- Will be V/LA all week unfortunately. I'm at training and no wireless devices are allowed in the building I'm in. Trying to catch up now with the few minutes I have.
Noted and appreciated!
Have fun in your Faraday Cage!

Can we have a limit on how long a V/LA is in the future please?

A week without activity from a slot is bad. :/

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:40 pm

In post 2184, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2175, Aristophanes wrote:
Titus saves the day and replaces CloudKicker!!
Not sure if I should be happy or sad here. I always like playing with Titus, but this is a SCUM SLOT, and Titus will just win this for Scum.

However, just in case we're both wrong (myself and Chara that is), along with the three heads of TWC, I'm going to give Titus a chance here. If she can drive a lynch on a scumster today I will probably drop the scum read on the slot and call it bad play from her predecessors. Can you do that, you majesty?

P.S. Inb4 someone says I know Titus' role: Titus is a female herself. I also have it on my notes that the slot's flavour is Queen Victoria, but O can't remember if it was explicitly claimed or if I deduced it from a crumb.

~A50

This is scum twice over for fishing. Lynch them hard twice over when I die.

If Drealmerz gets enough votes I will move back.

VOTE: Almost Chara

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:42 pm

In post 2190, Wraith wrote:Oh thank god, it's Titus. Maybe shit will get moving now.

>replaced into CK-slot

fuck

In post 2189, Titus wrote:
In post 2188, drealmerz7 wrote:titus, heads-up

AC claimed VT early game, then retracted it!

AC very likely scum, with infinity and T&B

if infinity is town then maybe commander is scum, but, mehhh, that's waffles right now
The world isn't so black and white.

If you think that you have your reads correct, then why are none of your major three scumreads voting you right now? You're easier to mislynch than ever, plus you have a habit of really annoying people. It'd be easy to discredit you and say that's just drealmerz being Drealmerz.

Uhm...Because a town IC is leading the wagon and scum don't want to bus?

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:43 pm

In post 2255, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2184, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2175, Aristophanes wrote:
Titus saves the day and replaces CloudKicker!!
Not sure if I should be happy or sad here. I always like playing with Titus, but this is a SCUM SLOT, and Titus will just win this for Scum.

However, just in case we're both wrong (myself and Chara that is), along with the three heads of TWC, I'm going to give Titus a chance here. If she can drive a lynch on a scumster today I will probably drop the scum read on the slot and call it bad play from her predecessors. Can you do that, you majesty?

P.S. Inb4 someone says I know Titus' role: Titus is a female herself. I also have it on my notes that the slot's flavour is Queen Victoria, but O can't remember if it was explicitly claimed or if I deduced it from a crumb.

~A50
This is scum twice over for fishing. Lynch them hard twice over when I die.

If Drealmerz gets enough votes I will move back.

VOTE: Almost Chara

Just saying because it is worth repeating twice.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:45 pm

In post 2259, Prism wrote:
In post 2251, Titus wrote:
In post 2249, Prism wrote:I'm actually going to make the judgment call of defending drealm more here.

I called him out for buddying me and finding it scummy earlier on, multiple times. I don't think he'd continue doing it like this. This reads legitimately to me.

I'm reasonably sure he's town. I'm again not going on this. Almost/Wraith/T&B/Infinity all moaning "What happened to your scumread?", incoming. Eat your heart out.
The thing is, he attempted to pick and knaw at me all game in Memory and he's started to do the same thing here. Do I think there's a chance he's town, but the caring about that theoretical possibility knowing he's driving everyone else insane is just making me not want to care.
Twice he's done the picking and gnawing at me, twice he flipped town and I regretted not saving him.

This is more legitimate, organic, and clearly less thought out than both of those attempts combined.

I'm not making the same mistake again. I'm not liking this opportunistic push that appears to be rolling with Wraith and CS, the latter of which is almost certainly town.

Opportunistic my ass.

I am sheeping my IC read because fake claiming bodyguard is a death sentence if Wraith gets to LYLO.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:46 pm

In post 2260, Infinity 324 wrote:Almost tried to fish for flavor that was already claimed?

In other words it matters to Almost50 what flavor exists.

Why does a VT care to note that?

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:47 pm

In post 14, Pine wrote:
We are not amused, churlish woodcutter.

Her Majesty Victoria, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India consents to the convening of this session of Parliament, may you govern our realm well.

@Titus

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:48 pm

In post 2265, Titus wrote:
In post 2263, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2260, Infinity 324 wrote:Almost tried to fish for flavor that was already claimed?
In other words it matters to Almost50 what flavor exists.

Why does a VT care to note that?
According to their own words, I think they retracted their VT immediately thereafter.

The push you are doing makes no sense commander.

Do you play as FemShep? Have you beaten Andromeda?

I destroy Reapers in the Milky Way. Andromeda is with our best technology hundreds of light years away.

What is this playing you speak of?

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:49 pm

In post 2269, Titus wrote:
In post 2267, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 14, Pine wrote:
We are not amused, churlish woodcutter.

Her Majesty Victoria, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India consents to the convening of this session of Parliament, may you govern our realm well.
@Titus
That's been quoted for me... I don't get this.

Your slot claimed Queen Victoria.

Why does Almost Chara bring it up?

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:54 pm

Wraith = IC because claimed bodyguard to save TWC. Fake claiming bodyguard is stupid and only results in death on LYLO if present. No way I will vote here.

Infinity had an unusual response on day Open I wasn't a fan of.
Drealmerz and Wraith and Infinity had a weird match.

Of which I find Drealmerz likely scum in that but it feels TvS. Either Drealmerz did slip OR Infinity is boosting that idea that Drealmerz is scum.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:55 pm

VOTE: Drealmerz

I'll try explaining AC read later :/

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:05 pm

Titus who do you scumread?

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:07 pm

In post 2294, Infinity 324 wrote:You're saying nacho+gin were both wrong on their top 2 scumreads titus? And they were nightkilled?

nacho+Gin+mastina*

You forgot a head Infinity.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:08 pm

In post 2296, Titus wrote:
In post 2292, Commander Shepard wrote:Titus who do you scumread?
Drealmerz. Pretty obvious there. I think there's an outside chance I'm wrong but not yet. I want to sort you more, but you interrupting to get a reads basis on me is good.

Ask. I am exhausted from Reaper fighting in order to try to yell in this pissing match.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:14 pm

In post 2307, Titus wrote:
In post 2302, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2296, Titus wrote:
In post 2292, Commander Shepard wrote:Titus who do you scumread?
Drealmerz. Pretty obvious there. I think there's an outside chance I'm wrong but not yet. I want to sort you more, but you interrupting to get a reads basis on me is good.
Ask. I am exhausted from Reaper fighting in order to try to yell in this pissing match.
Pissing match?

.....I think this qualifies as ungodly levels of crap and other yelling commonly referred to as a pissing match yes.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:16 pm

Everyone else posting.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:28 pm

In post 2317, Titus wrote:
In post 2315, Commander Shepard wrote:Everyone else posting.
I'm very Krogan in my playstyle as town. Much more Asari as scum.

Buddying noted.

Commander Shepard · Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:33 pm

Titus please list all of your reads.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:56 pm

In post 2340, Commander Shepard wrote:Titus please list all of your reads.

@Titus

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:19 pm

In post 2357, Titus wrote:
In post 2356, Prism wrote:I cannot wait until T&B quotes me not wanting to be on another town mislynch as a scumtell, I really can't.

A50's posting undoes every step forward Chara makes.
heeeey A50 is my
mason
traitor buddy. leave them alone before we start sending you to the other thread.

....There is another thread? And uhmmmmm.....*gets erasers*

No?no...dammnit

Tech right now is so out of date.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:19 pm

In post 2353, Titus wrote:
In post 2352, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2340, Commander Shepard wrote:Titus please list all of your reads.

@Titus
Dreamlerz needs to die, Prism is obvtown, AC is probably town but I may just want them to be, you're lean town

That isn't the whole player list.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:08 pm

VOTE: Unvote

Now I am officially paranoid.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:53 am

And with that exchange no longer worried.

Drealmerz shadowez likely.

VOTE: drealmerz

L-1

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:06 am

VOTE: Titus

Claim makes sense.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:20 am

@Wraith it is for the same reason I take yours seriously

Fake claiming mason while I am set up for lynching shop is horrendous.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:22 am

So did Infinity. #NotAMason2017

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:29 am

Let's not narrow down the likely partner and make things easier for scum.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:31 am

Shit.

Did you actually fake claim bodyguard Wraith?

Like wtf?

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:33 am

The procedure is NEVER for the other mason to claim wtf.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:34 am

In post 2429, Wraith wrote:
In post 2424, Commander Shepard wrote:Let's not narrow down the likely partner and make things easier for scum.
Scum are already going to be aware that those four are unlikely to be a Mason partner. And if one of those four is the Mason partner then they are likely scum anyways because there's no reason to keep that hidden as town when town has apparently "cleared" you.

They've cleared me because I am Town and have damn good reads.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:37 am

In post 2437, Wraith wrote:
In post 2431, Commander Shepard wrote:The procedure is NEVER for the other mason to claim wtf.
AFAIK this is when the claim is unprompted.

We pressured drealmerz into making the claim. We should not give him a pass without confirmation, that would defeat the purpose of forcing a claim under pressure IMO.

PREDIT:

THEY ALREADY HAVE A BETTER TARGET IN ME TONIGHT

WHY WOULD THEY SHOOT THE CLAIMED MASON OVER THE CLAIMED BODYGUARD?!

This is why you do not claim the other partner.

One mason and one BG.

Mason is better to kill than BG.

Yes we did and fakeclaiming mason = suicide.

There is no way I am lynching Drealmerz.

In LYLO -1 if Drealmerz still alive then mason buddy claim not before.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:39 am

You're wrong. Mason doesn't claim.

Just because you have been doing it wrong longer doesn't mean jack.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:40 am

No.

Mason partner claim introduce some wifom.

Partner silent means no wifom mason pair lives.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:42 am

In post 2449, Infinity 324 wrote:This argument is dumb. The mason partner will claim today or tomorrow and if they don't we lynch dreal.

Just wanted to let everyone know that this is the day before mylo.

Unless we lynch scum hard.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:44 am

In post 2450, Wraith wrote:I won't balk from lynching drealmerz today unless the Mason partner vouches for him. If he doesn't claim, I want drealmerz dead.

This can actually work in our favor somewhat. If drealmerz dies and does in fact flip Mason, his partner is confirmed town. We massclaim tomorrow (which would be MyLo) and PoE the scum then.

OR

Mason partner claims, we lynch Prism, I protect the Mason partner tonight.

We massclaim tomorrow no matter what IMO.

No.
Absolutely not.

We lynch scum today and keep lynching scum.

Partner should absolutely not claim.

FoS on Wraith growing.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:44 am

In post 2452, Titus wrote:
In post 2449, Infinity 324 wrote:This argument is dumb. The mason partner will claim today or tomorrow and if they don't we lynch dreal.

Just wanted to let everyone know that this is the day before mylo.
What kind of mod designs a setup w 2 mislynches? Why would you state that confidently?

Farside22 was a mod kill.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:45 am

In post 2455, Titus wrote:
In post 2454, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2450, Wraith wrote:I won't balk from lynching drealmerz today unless the Mason partner vouches for him. If he doesn't claim, I want drealmerz dead.

This can actually work in our favor somewhat. If drealmerz dies and does in fact flip Mason, his partner is confirmed town. We massclaim tomorrow (which would be MyLo) and PoE the scum then.

OR

Mason partner claims, we lynch Prism, I protect the Mason partner tonight.

We massclaim tomorrow no matter what IMO.
No.
Absolutely not.

We lynch scum today and keep lynching scum.

Partner should absolutely not claim.

FoS on Wraith growing.
Stop FoSing people who disagree.

Stop having your potential partner spew bullshit ideas.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:45 am

In post 2457, Wraith wrote:
In post 2453, Titus wrote:
In post 2450, Wraith wrote:Mason partner claims, we lynch Prism, I protect the Mason partner tonight.
You need an eventuality if Prism claims the partner.
Oh, shit, yeah.

Um...

I was only considering lynching dreal or Prism today. But if both are right out as possibilities I think I could lynch AC.

Nope I townread AC now.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:47 am

Titus/Wraith/Empking?

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:51 am

AC is town. I could do Empking today or Titus. Preferably Titus.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:52 am

In post 2465, Titus wrote:
In post 2461, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2457, Wraith wrote: ... I think I could lynch AC.
why AC? if my claim is to be believed, AC researched my claim and unvoted me basedon the sense of the flavor

why wouldn't they stay on me and hope a hammer comes before a partner claim?

wraith+titus looking more and more suspect
Dude, if they have a scum pm, they know you are honest in this setup and don't want to be seen pushing you.

Those of us who don't know you are town need your partner to claim. There's only one person I feel fits your bill based on things you've both said and I haven't read the game.

Bullshit. As soon as Drealmerz claimed partner is obvious because I have been reading the game. You just want them to out.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:56 am

In post 2472, Wraith wrote:
In post 2467, Titus wrote:
In post 2464, Wraith wrote:FYI considering Shepard's vehement opposition to any of these a town flip by any of these players will practically confirm you as scum to me.

And vice versa if they flip scum.
Not quite sure about what this means.
Right now I feel I have a decent grasp on my reads. But if any of my current scumreads (drealmerz, Prism, AC) flip town, it would force me to drastically re-evaluate my perception of the game-state.

Meaning I would probably start scumreading T&B again as well as you.

While you have been saying a lot of sensible things I've been suckered in by that before. I'm pretty wary of you buddying me right now, as Shepard is arguably my strongest townread at the moment and he is pretty hostile toward you.

Or we can just skip a step lynch Titus and then lynch you after Titus flips scum as then it probably means you wanted an excuse to hunt for Town RB/jk

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:57 am

In post 2471, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2467, Titus wrote: Not quite sure about what this means.
possibly means "get ready to be bused, buddy"

Yup

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:58 am

In post 2474, Titus wrote:
In post 2472, Wraith wrote:
In post 2467, Titus wrote:
In post 2464, Wraith wrote:FYI considering Shepard's vehement opposition to any of these a town flip by any of these players will practically confirm you as scum to me.

And vice versa if they flip scum.
Not quite sure about what this means.
Right now I feel I have a decent grasp on my reads. But if any of my current scumreads (drealmerz, Prism, AC) flip town, it would force me to drastically re-evaluate my perception of the game-state.

Meaning I would probably start scumreading T&B again as well as you.

While you have been saying a lot of sensible things I've been suckered in by that before. I'm pretty wary of you buddying me right now, as Shepard is arguably my strongest townread at the moment and he is pretty hostile toward you.
That's understandable, but I don't think we need to get to that point. I think Commander Shepard is town too and the simple explanation is Drealmerz/Prism or Infinity/A50 are scumfucks with one more in the lurkers.

Nope.

All those people you listed are hard Town reads now.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:59 am

In post 2477, drealmerz7 wrote:can I be jack the ripper in DoY II?

I want to kill everyone

I am a peace loving hippie. I come bearing gifts and hugs. /me hugs

I don't have bullets either.

Scum probably have those.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:01 am

@Wraith so you admit you were hunting the town roleblocker.

Lock him up and throw away the key.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:02 am

You said it was most likely town not definitively Town.

@Wraith

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 am

In post 2490, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2462, Commander Shepard wrote:Titus/Wraith/Empking?
If this turns out to be the case, and we both agreeing to it is like.. a historical event!!

~A50

If this turns out to be the case then it is just a thing. I actually ya know read things and think about them.

But when no one addresses my issues I get pissed.

Or tries to do stupid plays.

Mason outing = stupid play.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 am

In post 2493, Wraith wrote:That y'all think I would interact with Titus this much and this blatantly if we were scumbuddies together...wow.

Yes.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:09 am

In post 2492, Titus wrote:
In post 2491, Wraith wrote:I think I'm most infuriated now than ever before that I got fucking Roleblocked by town. TWC was the obvtown townie to ever town and their insights would be such a stabilizing force right now.

I can't believe you idiots have 180'd so drastically based solely off an unverified Mason claim
Well yeah, they'd say to go through this process. That's why any competent scumteam kills them.

Competent scumteam leaves BG claim alone.
Doesn't even block it.

Because for the sheer reason if BG isn't dead policy in LYLO.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:12 am

In post 2499, Titus wrote:
In post 2496, drealmerz7 wrote:that's why you don't play scummy as BG

you should be LAMIST as BG
Nah, BGs play as scummy people.

BGs want to take bullets that otherwise go at obvtown.

Nope town as possible to try to take a bullet so they don't have to wifom.

Wtf is this. Titus you know better.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:14 am

In post 2498, Wraith wrote:Like use your fucking brains.

If I am scum and got away with killing TWC, why would I come out and claim to have visited him the night he died? Why would I even be
dropping hints
that I did so? My claim was unprompted, I only did so because AC picked up on those hints and started pressing me about them. Why would I drop those hints if I'm scum and killed TWC? Why would I claim to have visited TWC and then been roleblocked if I'm actually scum and successfully nightkill them?

Use your fucking brains.

Because Watcher/tracker combos exist.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:14 am

In post 2503, Titus wrote:
In post 2501, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2499, Titus wrote:
In post 2496, drealmerz7 wrote:that's why you don't play scummy as BG

you should be LAMIST as BG
Nah, BGs play as scummy people.

BGs want to take bullets that otherwise go at obvtown.
Nope town as possible to try to take a bullet so they don't have to wifom.

Wtf is this. Titus you know better.
There isn't wifom. A competent BG lets people know whom they are guarding. Then the slot is conftown if the BG flips.

Yes
1) Be as townie as possible
2) If PR claim not present crumb BG protections the night before

Wraith did not do 2.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:19 am

Titus town = Infinity scum

Don't think Titus is town though.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:24 am

In post 2517, Wraith wrote:Jesus Christ I wish it was already fucking D3

Let's try to move that.

If y'all refuse to lynch dreal and I refuse to lynch Titus, what would be YOUR CHOICE for a compromise lynch?

And you can say "We outnumber you and don't need to compromise with you on Titus" and it's perfectly true. Y'all can overrule me and lynch Titus and I can't stop you. I won't join you though, not today.

Compromise not gonna happen. Then don't bus. When Titus flips scum you're next.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:24 am

In post 2518, Titus wrote:
In post 2517, Wraith wrote:Jesus Christ I wish it was already fucking D3

Let's try to move that.

If y'all refuse to lynch dreal and I refuse to lynch Titus, what would be YOUR CHOICE for a compromise lynch?

And you can say "We outnumber you and don't need to compromise with you on Titus" and it's perfectly true. Y'all can overrule me and lynch Titus and I can't stop you. I won't join you though, not today.
I'm not compromising, even if it means death, until any hypothetical partner claims.

Die scum die.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:32 am

Lol saying a mason is bad for Town regardless of alignment

Rotflmbo titus can't even find a decent mislynch to push so she is pushing the mason claim as policy.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:14 am

In post 2539, Titus wrote:UNVOTE: Drealmerz

Now the alleged mason partner has claimed, the proper play is to treat them as town until the day before lylo and reset. I'll look at this later.

They are just Town. There is no day before LYLO shit.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:15 am

@mod VC please

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:52 pm

In post 2551, Prism wrote:I'm not going to have time until later tomorrow but I'm in no rush to end the day and speedlynch Titus. I don't get many shots before I die, I've been hasty before, I want this to go right.

If CS is town I want to make damn sure they are before I bet on it.

If T&B is town I want to know.

And I want to sink my teeth into Infinity.

What would you like to know ?

I am an open book of Reaper squishing heading from India to Malta.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:53 pm

In post 2555, Tea and Biscuits wrote:No you're not. Unless you're saying that Prism's a mason recruiter in which case you're still not.

-- Postie

Prism and Drealmerz are claimed masons and I believe them.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 2560, Tea and Biscuits wrote:Wtf where did they claim masons

-- Postie

When Drealmerz was at L-1 will get you the post.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 2561, Tea and Biscuits wrote:Is this the day 1 claim? Because why would you take that seriously no one claims masons on day 1 without threat of being lynched

-- Postie

No.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:59 pm

In post 2536, Prism wrote:
In post 965, Prism wrote:
In post 734, Almost Chara wrote:I do get that Prism himself said that will get back to TWC's concern, but your phrasing gives unnatural assertion, so I'll only ask you this once: Are you guys Masons?!
Yes.
In post 2362, Prism wrote:Ignoring subjective evaluations about our skill value,
voting drealm is exactly equivalent to voting myself.
He's town. They are equally horrible. Feel free to move it to me if you desire, it makes no difference.
This is a fucking horrible last 7 pages and I'll deal with it later.

Confirmed by Prism here T&B.

Those two are never ever getting my vote.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:00 pm

In post 2396, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm Queen Mary of Orange

and I'm a mason

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:00 pm

Now let's lynch Titus for trying to make up bullshit that the other mason should claim. That should have never happened.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:06 pm

In post 2551, Prism wrote:I'm not going to have time until later tomorrow but I'm in no rush to end the day and speedlynch Titus. I don't get many shots before I die, I've been hasty before, I want this to go right.

If CS is town I want to make damn sure they are before I bet on it.

If T&B is town I want to know.

And I want to sink my teeth into Infinity.

...Postie quit fishing.

Prism could have added Drealmerz or Prism may just be speaking colloquially here.

Prism is town Drealmerz is town.

If either dies the other can collaborate. Stop this.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 pm

Like Titus/Wraith/T&B?

Titus/Wraith/T&B/Empking likely contains all the scums. And if wrong after that shadowez.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:10 pm

In post 2573, Tea and Biscuits wrote:Except if we don't have confirmation on numbers they're free to make shit up later so no, we're getting confirmation on numbers.

-- Postie

No they aren't.

Scum are going to kill the mason claims or be forced to deal with not being able to get a scum lynch.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:12 pm

In post 2574, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2570, Tea and Biscuits wrote:
In post 2551, Prism wrote:I don't get many shots before I die,
Oh did I read this wrong

-- Postie
yes I believe that means they expect to be NKed and have to give while the giving is givable

This.

Seriously.

Wtf.

I am seriously debating if that slip I caught was an actual slip here with how hard you are shading the masons.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:16 pm

In post 2577, Tea and Biscuits wrote:
In post 2575, Commander Shepard wrote:Scum are going to kill the mason claims or be forced to deal with not being able to get a scum lynch.
That assumes they're telling the truth. Obviously this is for the case they're scum, so they can't adjust their claim as they go along.

-- Postie

If Drealmerz or Prism are not dead scum lose.

I will not be mislynched along with Drealmerz and Prism.

This is three united. Scum team are no more than three.

Seriously. They will lose.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:21 pm

In post 2580, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum could leave them alive to mislynch one of them no?

Scum are never mislynching masons. Like no.

Scum team is of no greater than three.
Prism and Drealmerz and myself are never getting lynched.
Titus is obvious scum.

One scum lynch in Titus makes three unlynchable townies against 2 or less scum.

Three v Two is a town win.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:23 pm

So eventually scum have to shoot Prism or Drealmerz. Which if Wraith isn't dead due to BG claim by LYLO Wraith is likely scum.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:23 pm

In post 2586, drealmerz7 wrote:we're just masonbuds

no masonizing

I'm Queen Mary II, prism is my husband William

we rule together

.....Drealmerz why tell scum that???

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:28 pm

A) If Titus doesn't flip scum it is still 3v3 and then in that case every other townie would have to be lynched. I have hard townreads outside of those two.
B) We are all three townies. Scum just don't fake claim masons. If they don't die it is too suspicious.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:29 pm

In post 2589, drealmerz7 wrote:I prefer scum try and NK 1 of us and force wraith to BG 1 of us if he is town and, if he is, scum and him have to play a guessing game of who to pick

ehhh, is that not optimal?

Prism should have stayed silent so scum would had to have shot you and you crumbed your buddy. Then no wifom at all.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:30 pm

In post 2591, Tea and Biscuits wrote:Wraith should bodyguard one of you two at random without claiming his target, yeah.

-- Postie

If scum do something like shoot me instead to avoid the problem then they have an insanely narrow mislynch pool to work with. I just don't see scum being able to navigate there. They have to hope I am buddying the mason claim and see if they can mislynch me after masons die.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:42 pm

They were pinging my towndar.

And yes we are.

And hell no on continued mason shade.

Exactly. Masons have to be shot at tonight.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:04 pm

Assume Titus flips Town. 3 scum likely remain

If Drealmerz+Prism are scum (hell no) then they still have to kill every other townie in order to win. Resulting in a 3v3 and a very narrow lynch pool. Same problem different side. Town and scum will all be able to identify each other if scum don't kill the masons.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:53 pm

In post 2600, Tea and Biscuits wrote:I'm going to be really annoyed if this is town!dreal and scum!Prism fakeclaiming masons as neighbours but I'm probably overthinking.

-- Postie

Town Drealmerz scum prism results in Town Drealmerz vote parking Prism for fake claiming mason.

Drealmerz prism same alignment.

If you don't understand 3v3 and how lynches work Postie I don't know what to say.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:53 pm

In post 2608, Infinity 324 wrote:Something feels wrong to me about that

Agreed.

Titus T&B Infinity?

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:12 pm

So Titus and T&B confirmed.

And if you say scum can't slip AC/A50 I will literally pull my hair out and need my omnitool to somehow replace it.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:33 pm

Postie is desperate scum looking for a wagon. Let her poke. She will find nothing. Three unlynchable townies means scum get wrecked.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:49 pm

You realize all the people doubting the claim were likely scum trying to get you to claim right?

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:50 pm

In post 2621, Prism wrote:
@T&B:
Why on earth would you
ever
want a mason recruiter to claim as such over a regular mason?

Seriously, walk me through that one. Scum is going to claim no shots 100%, in the event I was a recruiter we'd have just lost our shot at a third for
no reason whatsoever
by having me claim.

As far as everyone asking why I confirmed the mason claim, as Titus pointed out it's really,
really
obvious to anyone who's paid attention who the second was. Even if you didn't pick it up the first time, if you look for it it's clear, especially to the scumteam.

On the other hand, some townspeople are
still doubtful of the claim
from us even after all this garbage. I think it was a clear play for the best.

Erm I am the one who said it was obvious. Not Titus.

Prism?

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:52 pm

In post 2468, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2465, Titus wrote:
In post 2461, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2457, Wraith wrote: ... I think I could lynch AC.
why AC? if my claim is to be believed, AC researched my claim and unvoted me basedon the sense of the flavor

why wouldn't they stay on me and hope a hammer comes before a partner claim?

wraith+titus looking more and more suspect
Dude, if they have a scum pm, they know you are honest in this setup and don't want to be seen pushing you.

Those of us who don't know you are town need your partner to claim. There's only one person I feel fits your bill based on things you've both said and I haven't read the game.
Bullshit. As soon as Drealmerz claimed partner is obvious because I have been reading the game. You just want them to out.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:53 pm

In post 2625, Prism wrote:Titus pointed out that by PoE it had to be me if I recall correctly, regardless the point is moreso that anyone who bothered looking would find me easily. Not claiming directly only wastes time and leads town in wrong directions.

Scum trying to get me to claim, perhaps but I really don't think it would have taken much effort on their end.

...Yes. PoE is a thing but if she had to use PoE to find you post claim she isn't reading.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:18 am

In post 2629, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2620, Commander Shepard wrote:Postie is desperate scum looking for a wagon. Let her poke. She will find nothing. Three unlynchable townies means scum get wrecked.
Why is postie scum?

Postie understands 3 unlynchable Town bad for scum.
Yet claims not to.
Attacks me multiple times despite saying I am Town.

Postie's voting record reads like who can I get away with.

At this point I have conf scum Titus. Likely scum TB and everyone else but the masons after that gets a glare for third scum.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:19 am

In post 2632, Titus wrote:
In post 2627, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2625, Prism wrote:Titus pointed out that by PoE it had to be me if I recall correctly, regardless the point is moreso that anyone who bothered looking would find me easily. Not claiming directly only wastes time and leads town in wrong directions.

Scum trying to get me to claim, perhaps but I really don't think it would have taken much effort on their end.
...Yes. PoE is a thing but if she had to use PoE to find you post claim she isn't reading.
I don't read when subbing in.

Obvious posts happened after you replaced in.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:20 am

Titus and Postie are scrambling. Let's just lynch one and put them out of their flailing misery.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:37 am

Titus is scum.
Titus is looking for a claim that will work.

MathBlade in In Memory Lolhammered Vaxkiller when you didn't agree. Seriously. Titus is scum.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:40 am

Titus...isn't reading.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:27 pm

In post 2665, Infinity 324 wrote:Yes we should use the time we have but ultimately I want to get the flip and move forward once everyone is caught up.

Only person who hasn't posted in the last 24 hours is the mod. Safe to say everyone is "caught up".

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:41 pm

Why Drealmerz?

:/ That like will make it harder to get a lynch if the votes are split.

T&B is scum with Titus but still.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:42 pm

In post 2674, Tea and Biscuits wrote:I've just realised I actually scumread masons quite often, and it's usually for something along the lines of them being lazy with their reasoning and stances and not feeling like they're really trying to engage properly or fully play the game. That
does
make me feel somewhat better about Prism being town here. It's also now making me slowly despise masons as a role.

-- Postie

...Postie is seriously talking with Titus. Titus + T&B. Both are spewing utter nonsense about masons.

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:14 pm

In post 2681, Titus wrote:
In post 2680, Tea and Biscuits wrote:
In post 2677, Commander Shepard wrote:...Postie is seriously talking with Titus.
???

-- Postie
We're pariahs for following procedure.

You're pariahs because you're scum and making up shit and calling it "procedure".

My guess is Titus/T&B/Infinity

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:15 pm

In post 2683, Infinity 324 wrote:I still think T&B is town

Unless titus is giving up and trying to WIFOM that last post looked a lot like a buddy attempt

This post feels wrong from Infinity.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:49 am

In post 2645, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2637, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2629, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2620, Commander Shepard wrote:Postie is desperate scum looking for a wagon. Let her poke. She will find nothing. Three unlynchable townies means scum get wrecked.
Why is postie scum?
Postie understands 3 unlynchable Town bad for scum.
Yet claims not to.
Attacks me multiple times despite saying I am Town.

Postie's voting record reads like who can I get away with.

At this point I have conf scum Titus. Likely scum TB and everyone else but the masons after that gets a glare for third scum.
Why would scum pretend not to understand that?

Why can't someone attack a townread they disagree with?

So they don't accept the leash Town put around them.

I don't understand the second question.

If they disagree with a townread it is discussion. It is only an attack when it is a scumread.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:49 am

In post 2703, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm just explaining why I trusted the claim to empking who seems to think because I unvoted a mason claim that I must be scum and titus must be town.

Oh you're both scum but that isn't why.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:14 am

No. Voting. The. Masons. Leash.

@Infinity324

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:15 am

No voting me leash as I am obvTown. Leash.

@Infinity324

Masons first then me. That is how kills have to go or scum lose.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:48 am

In post 2712, Wraith wrote:
In post 2711, Infinity 324 wrote:Why can't scum keep masons alive to mislynch one of them?
The majority of players consider the claimed Masons conftown. It is unlikely much of anything in terms of argument will change their minds, flips would be needed.

Scum know for a fact whether or not the claimed Masons are telling the truth.

If they are, scum are at a distinct disadvantage because the two claimed Masons stand a minuscule chance of being mislynched. To prevent PoE from eventually catching the scum out, they would have to prioritize killing the Masons.

And if the claimed Masons are lying, they won't be nightkilled anyways. But only the scum know for sure what will happen. Either way, flips and PoE will eventually reveal the truth.

That.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:11 am

Wraith unless you have more than one vote votes are still split I think.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:30 am

In post 2718, Infinity 324 wrote:You might be right math, but by occam's razor it's more likely that postie actually doesn't understand what you're trying to say/is confbiased than she is purposefully not understanding.

I might be right by using math?

What is this you might be right Math thing?

Occam's razor is she is scum avoiding the leash.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:31 am

In post 2717, drealmerz7 wrote:we need the nonvoters to commit to a push they believe in

In post 2719, Wraith wrote:
In post 2716, Commander Shepard wrote:Wraith unless you have more than one vote votes are still split I think.
I thought we were holding off on putting Titus at L-1 to prevent a lolhammer or self-hammer.

I'll join that wagon now if that's fine.

Drealmerz/Prism call not mine

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:36 am

Desperation.

If no one scumreads the masons same dilemma. If she can plant that seed of doubt she can win she doesn't have to kill the masons.

Then reread my ISO infinity.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:08 pm

I AM COMMANDER SHEPARD AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD ON THE CITADEL

I will neither confirm nor deny whether I am an alt or whether I am this math. I cannot stop assumptions however.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:13 pm

Anywho...I think it is scummy because scum are boxed in.

They have three obvious townies here. There are at most 3 scum.

10 are alive now. Lynch and NK someone becomes 8 alive. Lynch and NK someone becomes 6 alive if 3 scum alive GG.

They don't have enough kills to remove all obv townie ness. If they remove one the other is confirmed for a day. If they don't then they go into either mylo/non mylo with only one or two mislynch candidates.

They have to kill a mason to have room to breathe.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:20 pm

In post 2735, Infinity 324 wrote:Why don't they just do that instead trying to push a mislynch that will never go through?

Why can't town be suspicious of masons if they were very much so before the claim?

Because the alternative is worse. The alternative is to concede the thread to masons. If they concede the thread to the masons not only does the prior scenario unfold but they dictate the lynch today. If they know they are going down 1-2-3 they are having to plan the scum to make it to the end. Masons is literally the worst thing in the world revealed before lylo for scum. Furthermore, they must also invent an alternative world with PRs that would be counterintuitive to a mason/BG/other combo.

I'm 99.999999999% sure why the 3x roleblocker exists for town and if you think about it infinity I'm pretty sure you'll put it together why too.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:06 pm

If you're willing to gambit -- Wraith protect me. Don't confirm or deny if you agree if this is stupid or not. Just read.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:07 pm

In post 2742, drealmerz7 wrote:@shep 2736

that is why this wagon business is being handled the way it is, it will help us deduce the potentialities of the remaining scum going forward

this is why scum crapped themselves when I claimed

this is why masons are super-strong when played well

this is why I was so excited from the onset of the game, having rolled mason with prism

and am a little disappointed in myself I haven't been able to play a tighter game, but we're on a good path now

think infinity might just be playing into naiveté and scum here

You have no idea how excited I am ya'll rolled Masons. <3 I have a feeling you'll understand this post later. For now just let's take our thread independence and see if scum concede or not.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:18 pm

Have a little faith Drealmerz. I think I've earned a little faith. Give me a bit of trust Drealmerz. You and Prism both. Prism wanted time. I'm asking for it.

It will make sense.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Someone hammer before the Mass Effect Andromeda Initiative arrives in the Andromeda galaxy.

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:58 am

Because Town wants masons and Town thinks through the entire process of how stupid it is to fake claim masons.

They have to 1) Have NEVER scumread each other 2) Been in clear cahoots on rereading enough to be believed but not enough to be killed and 3) optionally crumb.

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:00 am

And if you think I am not trusting but verifying you are sorely mistaken. Because if there is ever a HINT of them suggesting the other could be scum that is where scum lies but no townie in their right mind doubts it because A) it goes no where and B) without proof it is spam that drags the game on.

Someone please hammer scumclaim Titus already.

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:02 am

In post 114, Prism wrote:I'll be honest in saying that I have no idea how to read drealm. I've gotten townreads on him before only to walk them back later but I have yet to see his scumgame. There are no glaringly obvious differences thus far between this game and camn's revenge where we were both town.

Example Prism sets up Drealmerz as town D1.

Like fucking obvious. People aren't trying to fucking research or question the possibility they want others to do so. They would bring evidence to the table if it was a genuine doubt.

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:45 am

.....Lynch infinity.

At some point you have to go Town just doesn't do things like attack masons without proof or not think about how stupid fake claiming mason is. I just can't see that being town.

And I can't see Town defending that either.

Titus / T&B / infinity

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:46 am

I have to go take the Tempest to the Citadel for repairs. Considering last time we had to dock my clone took it over who knows how long I will be AFK for.

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Thread blew up worse than Sovereign. I will read it when I get home.

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:02 pm

Okay don't kill me but I think we lynch Titus first and she is probably scum. And Empking's alignment is a coinflip.
(I know this seems weird but hear me out)

Here is why.
Titus is playing like she wants to be lynched.
Saying stuff like "good luck team" etc.
This means either A) She believes she is dead scum caught dead to rights or B) She is a vengeful or some lynch needed role or C) She has Town and gave up. A and B are most likely.

Now on Titus flip >> Titus scum Not Godmother >> Lynch Empking
Titus flip >> Titus scum Godmother >> Examine Empking's ISO for crumbs
Titus flip >> Titus town anything >> Something is very wrong with this game Empking off limits while we review the whole game.

-------

Conversely on Empking flip
If Empking is town we learn Titus town or GF and in that case reexamine all reads
If Empking scum Titus scum.

I think we play it safer and lynch Titus here. As scummy as Empking's claim is Titus is better.
I don't see scum making it unless they wanted to change the state here. And if Town Empking may have been hoping to save Titus.

Lynch Titus << TLDR

Commander Shepard · Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:36 am

Empking should be the lynch barring Godmother from Titus as if Empking is faking that is horrible.

Townies fake claim though so people have to be careful.

Wraith remember what I said about who to guard.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:55 am

*nods* Something is off.

On the way to the primitive vid screen called movies.

My brain was not found in Iraq. Any ideas who would likely be in Iraq?

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:55 am

In post 2852, drealmerz7 wrote:so empking could be scum who knew their bud was going down and gave the result knowing it might clear them a bit

or, could really be 1shotcop

look at all that town power on the table though, what else does scum have in their pocket? having a hard time imagining what it could be to balance and one of the things that comes to mind first is: an extra scum, so instead of looking for 2 more, we could be looking for 3 more

could be another godfather?

definitely likely a strongman, probably multi shot

possibly a JK/RBer of their own, again, possibly multishot

maybe they have a scumvig in their pocket they're holding on to, but that seems less likely?

thoughts? I like prism's thought there about the fakemiller as that does give scum some knowledge power advantage to manipulate things with, and if that is how it is, kudos to ari for coming up with that

I think Empking is town and Titus knew she was going down.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:56 am

In post 2854, Commander Shepard wrote:*nods* Something is off.

On the way to the primitive vid screen called movies.

My brain was not found in Iraq. Any ideas who would likely be in Iraq?

In Malta on my way to Iraq*

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:58 am

Prism you get a chance to reelvaulate me and T&B?

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:14 pm

Did you feel "freer" or see any unique signs or arrows pointing you towards your conclusions on Infinity?

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:32 pm

Hello---Prism---Infinity anyone?

Are my posts under an invisibility cloak of Kasumi's?

My top scumreads are T&B and infinity.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:34 pm

If either of those wrong Almost.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:31 pm

In post 2868, Infinity 324 wrote:If you guys have anything for me to address other than my role, I'd be happy to.

Despite wraith likely being roleblocked by town, scum probably have a rb or strongman because of follow the cop (assuming emp isn't 1-shot).

Strongman + gf vs. 3-shot rb, Masons, cop, Miller, doc

Seems decently balanced

Really?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:31 pm

You going with this I don't think you see the big picture.

Prism you see where I am going with this?

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:33 pm

You have one chance to fix that post Infinity.

If that post isn't fixed I am tunneling you to kingdom come.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:34 pm

Because I am very tempted to say scumslip here and pound you into road kill.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:42 pm

You know what? Fuck it I am.

Town Compulsive Independence Vendor. (Fruit Vendor but with Countries)

I know you got my picture because of your groaning here.

Now pitching an entire setup without my PR is a fucking scum claim when I hit you with India N1 and you would fucking remember the picture.

Hit Prism N2 with Malta and N1 was India with Infinity and I was asking Prism who to hit today.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:42 pm

VOTE: Infinity

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:43 pm

And if anyone dares call bullshit I have about 15 crumbs going

This is my favorite thread on MS or the citadel

A fucking quote from Mass Effect about having a shop.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:44 pm

In post 2876, Infinity 324 wrote:I have reason to believe there may be another town role but I also have reason to believe it's not a super strong role. It didn't have reason to tell scum that until you yelled at me just now.

Then the setup you were pitching would be inherently unbalanced.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:45 pm

In post 2878, Infinity 324 wrote:Why would I out you unnecessarily?

Town Infinity would say + another PR I suspect.

You're just blowing bullshit.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:46 pm

In post 2880, Infinity 324 wrote:No because fruit vendor is not really relevant balance-wise.

In a setup with masons it allows a three person masonry.

Hence why no way in fuck Drealmerz/Prism were fake claiming.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:47 pm

You wanted to make something balanced with your miller claim but forgot that you had to account for my role.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:48 pm

In post 2885, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2882, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2880, Infinity 324 wrote:No because fruit vendor is not really relevant balance-wise.
In a setup with masons it allows a three person masonry.

Hence why no way in fuck Drealmerz/Prism were fake claiming.
Scum can have fruit vendors too.

Yes they can. However you didn't try to account for that either.

You're just trying to think save skin.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:49 pm

In post 2887, Infinity 324 wrote:I have no idea why you think scum would act differently from town in this scenario.

Scum doesn't omit known power from a possible setup.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:49 pm

In post 2889, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2887, Infinity 324 wrote:I have no idea why you think scum would act differently from town in this scenario.
Scum doesn't omit known power from a possible setup.

Does*

Autocorrect fail.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:50 pm

You got so hung up on Prism attacking your miller claim you forgot you had to take into account my role.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:00 pm

In post 2895, Infinity 324 wrote:Not everything revolves around you and your role. Just because you sent me a message doesn't mean I'm gonna go "wink wink i got a message from someone" in the thread. I made a note that you're probably town since fruit vendors are more likely town and since I already townread you. There's a reason I haven't really considered you a scumspect since then.

PEdit: It's a role that has no mechanical effects chara, so...

No you didn't. That is why I picked you.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:02 pm

In post 1786, Infinity 324 wrote:{T&B}
{TWC, AC}
{shaddow, farside}
{CK, Shepard, empking, dreal}

{prism, wraith}

I guess this is where I'm at pending a flip. It's a pretty gross list but I'd be surprised if anyone in the top 3 tiers is scum

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:03 pm

In post 1793, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 1790, Infinity 324 wrote:...wraith doesn't make sense as scum cause there would've been a stronger CW on someone towards the middle of the day

FUCK

Agreed. Please work with me here.

Wraith is town. Look at T&B's post I called out if Wraith town Postie Scum.
Look who all post after AC &TWC.

T&B Infinity last two scum.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:08 pm

Chara who do you scumread?

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:15 pm

Yeah I don't see Empking blatantly claiming cop with a town on Titus.

Titus from the data on my omnitool is a gambitter but she isn't stupid. There is no upside to Empking claiming cop.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:54 pm

I don't think it is a trick.
I think he got so caught up in trying to throw Prism off he forgot my role.

Commander Shepard · Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:56 pm

In post 2896, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 2895, Infinity 324 wrote:Not everything revolves around you and your role. Just because you sent me a message doesn't mean I'm gonna go "wink wink i got a message from someone" in the thread. I made a note that you're probably town since fruit vendors are more likely town and since I already townread you. There's a reason I haven't really considered you a scumspect since then.

PEdit: It's a role that has no mechanical effects chara, so...
No you didn't. That is why I picked you.

In post 2897, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 1786, Infinity 324 wrote:{T&B}
{TWC, AC}
{shaddow, farside}
{CK, Shepard, empking, dreal}

{prism, wraith}

I guess this is where I'm at pending a flip. It's a pretty gross list but I'd be surprised if anyone in the top 3 tiers is scum

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:20 am

....I feel like everyone raided Titus's moonlogic stash to try to get a mislynch here.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:04 am

....AC: I hate leading town in LYLO. Fucking hate it. I don't want my word to be law I want to have people I can bounce off with.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:06 am

VOTE: Unvote

Still think Infinity is conf scum

But I shouldn't be voting as conf town right now

Gotta go will be gone a while but I want to see where everyone stands.

Commander Shepard · Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:35 pm

AC I do not like your reads. Scumreading Prism and Empking can't be a thing.

Either it is Prism+Drealmerz or it is two other people?

Which do you think and why?

Commander Shepard · Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:20 am

(Singing parody voice)

I meant to read this but I got a nap.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:01 am

In post 2958, Almost Chara wrote:i'm not scumreading Prism.

i think Empking is scum.
i understand the concern for scum masons but i'm not pursuing that. the only time it would be worth pursuing would be lylo, and this isn't lylo. if Empking flips town i'd reevaluate on the masons.
~Chara

Get your heads in order then.

Voting Prism and Empking is inconsistent as fuck.

Tell me what your heads reads are.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:03 am

Non confTown need to get here and place votes stat.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:15 am

.....No. I townread Empking.

That looks like you are wanting an excuse for two mislynches in a row. I do not scumread Empking based on Titus's play alone.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:15 am

Empking is not happening. Move to your next read.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:22 am

Your other scumread.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:40 am

So you scumread Shaddowez more than T&B?

Good to know.

Infinity or T&B today then.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:41 am

Kinda preferring T&B.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:42 pm

Empking isn't happening today.
Myself and Prism townread Empking.
Likely Drealmerz won't disagree with the mason claim.
You would need Empking to vote for himself.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:43 pm

In post 2929, Prism wrote:Neither do I at this point, the last scum is in one of you/shaddowez/AC but god only knows why no one wants to lynch Infinity.

P-Edit: Sorry, to anyone not named Infinity. 2 of those are also not like the other.

Pretty much Infinity and T&B are the choices.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:14 pm

In post 2983, Infinity 324 wrote:Shepard, can we talk about what happens when me or T&B flip town?

We lynch the other of you.

I am confTown.
Masons are conf.
Empking is town because Titus set Empking up.

This game is literally unlosable

Scum have to be in T&B Infinity and Shaddowez and AC.

Based on AC's response scum are T&B and Infinity.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:15 pm

In post 2991, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2988, Almost Chara wrote:You know what the problem with the majority of players on this site of late? It's they do not play the game at all. They just either roll dice on whom to vote or see if they dislike someone's avatar or something. That doesn't only result in losing games, but it creates a poor player base from those who are newly joining in. With nobody to look up to and no reason to improve, as no matter how bad their play is they won't get lynched for it. Townies will play like shit and careless and scum will be also careless and no one will develop any scum-hunting/town-deceit skills because that's not what the game is all about anymore. *Sigh*

And you sure know what they say.. "If you can't beat them; join them" (and laugh at them afterwards)

~A50
agreed this is a huge problem around here, but it's not everyone

I've been fighting hard against this shit since joining this site, and will continue to do so

I agree with the sentiment and AC isn't keeping track of games. RB was mod killed.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:16 pm

Scum can't kill me. So they slander me. If they kill me they can't mislynch masons.
Scum can't kill masons that confirms a mason in LYLO which scum are actively shading the mason claim.

So they can only kill within the narrow possibilities.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:17 pm

The only way we lose is if Drealmerz or Prism ever get lynched.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:17 pm

Fuck it Infinity is better.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:26 pm

Yeah no. Not a thing AC. You are just not happy I am pointing out the truth.

The only possible scum are in those four.

If we mislynch today then come back tomorrow it will be down to two. Really it is a matter of picking top two scum reads.

You're just not liking the fact I specifically said scum had to kill the masons to win the game and they didn't.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:49 pm

In post 3007, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3000, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2992, Commander Shepard wrote:Empking is town because Titus set Empking up.
Talk to me about this.

You're not discussing here you're just pushing reads. Take a step back, cooperation is the only way we can win.

Titus was begging to be lynched going "look over here".

She claimed scum several times before hammering:

This means either A) Empking is her scum buddy or B) Empking is town.

Empking scum buddy case -- Empking never claims cop here. Empking wasn't under pressure and was lurking.
Zero reason and Titus wouldn't have Empking do something so stupid unless it was to give validity to Infinity's Miller claim, which with a Godfather makes sense.

Empking is town case -- Then A) don't lynch him. And B) God father and a miller for a one shot?

Infinity needs rope.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:51 pm

P.S. Told you. Stop voting me because you think my reads are dumb.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Empking claimed one shot.

You claimed miller.

It didn't need validation.

It is much more likely Empking claimed correctly and you claimed miller because you knew Gf was in existence and why you had votes on CK early to try to legitimize it. It also explains why you never claimed to receive fruit or a country.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:11 pm

Reaper image was so you knew it was from me.

India image was so you knew I crumbed it before.

Malta was the country I said I left my brain or a clue or something in.

They are all countries/locations that Britain gave independence to.

I had one that was much more complicated and listed all my crumbs but that went too far from "intent" of the role so I had to rush job it.

Prism work with me on reads please. Where are you at?

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:12 pm

Pedit lol sorry to interrupt.

Commander Shepard · Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:33 pm

What do you make of AC tunneling me when you and I share similar reads and thoughts?

Commander Shepard · Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:29 am

AFK most of the day. Will read later.

Commander Shepard · Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:18 am

Prism Drealmerz what do you need to solve the game?

At this point I think mass claim is in order.

Commander Shepard · Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:19 am

It is concerning me how much power exists in this game.

Commander Shepard · Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:42 pm

No on 4 scum else Titus isn't lynched there.

Commander Shepard · Mon May 01, 2017 6:48 am

AFK all day.

VOTE: Infinity324

Someone finish up mass claim while I am out please.

Commander Shepard · Mon May 01, 2017 6:49 am

I wish we were doing T&B but this will do.

Infinity describe the picture you received.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:01 pm

Drealmerz freaking Unvote.

I have RL and if two scum come on we lose.

Wtf was up way day starting early? I explicitly did not ask for it to speed up as I have RL.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:10 pm

Drealmerz. I specifically said what I would do as scum.

As conf town your job is to have hammers so that way Town always controls hammers.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:12 pm

Voting me right now is horrible I have been nothing but obvTown.

I am a fruit vendor who watched their target never claim to receive things until being hammered. I did what anyone would do as a Town Fruit Vendor. Furthermore he denied my PR. You got a present from me why are you doing this?

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:13 pm

In post 3091, drealmerz7 wrote:explain your gift to prism to me then and if I buy it or it makes sense, then I'll unvote

The gift to prism was a picture. In the lower left ish was India showing N1 Infinity.

I gave him Malta.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:14 pm

In post 3092, drealmerz7 wrote:also provide me with 2 feasible scumroles that scum will have in light of all the town power on the table

I don't know. I expected to be dead and I am running out the door.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:14 pm

You got Iraq.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:17 pm

I can get it from Imgur just a sec.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:19 pm

@mod: May I post the picture?

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:19 pm

The India has horrible white space around it from a bad erase job as I was in a hurry.

I gave you Iraq with a smiley face on it.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:20 pm

There is a Reaper with a godawful no sign too.

Do you want the text?

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:26 pm

Malta is free from the reapers

Text is black and red.

Compulsive independence vendor.

I didn't include that on yours as I was compulsive and in a hurry.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:27 pm

No I don't think T&B is town but I haven't had a chance to review so not voting and I want to see if I can understand what Infinity was getting at with empking Shaddowez.

Commander Shepard · Wed May 03, 2017 12:29 pm

Reapers are the baddie in Mass Effect. Commander Shepard is the hero of Mass Effect.

I am Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store in the Citadel << Game quote repurposed to show vendor.