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Post Post #1970  (isolation #600)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:23 pm

Right but those are just recapitulations of what happened. That's not gamesolving or scumhunting at all. That's surface level stuff that scum post to seem busy.
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Post Post #1972  (isolation #601)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:26 pm

@Aslan I don't get why he has Noodle as null there in 1062 when he said he was scum like a little prior :P
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Post Post #1973  (isolation #602)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:27 pm

Noodle claimed scum lol.
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Post Post #1976  (isolation #603)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:29 pm

In post 1958, StealthyNoodle wrote:
In post 1943, Alisae wrote:And Pine has a reputation for not bussing. So Noodle is probably town.

Even in his grave, Pine gets away with all the credit. So annoyed rn.

In post 1945, TesXX wrote:The only way we can lose at this point is if Noodle is scum.

No pressure.
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Post Post #1979  (isolation #604)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:31 pm

OK I got you Src.
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Post Post #1981  (isolation #605)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:31 pm

In post 1978, StealthyNoodle wrote:This is you bringing your "royal fuckover" back from the dead, isn't it??

:?:
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Post Post #1983  (isolation #606)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:31 pm

In post 1980, Srceenplay wrote:Would scum really continue to try to push you nancy?

Apparently?
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Post Post #1984  (isolation #607)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:32 pm

No lmao he's complaining that he got no cred from the bus and saying that he feels pressured because he's solo scum and has to win in LyLo.
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Post Post #1988  (isolation #608)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:35 pm

Um how is my push on you Day 1 relevant at all to this?
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Post Post #1992  (isolation #609)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:37 pm

He got to L-2 I think? I shall check

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Post Post #1993  (isolation #610)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:38 pm

He got to L-2 coming out of RVS
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Post Post #1995  (isolation #611)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:40 pm

No lol, explain what in world was going through your head when you made that post
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Post Post #1999  (isolation #612)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:43 pm

Um, he explains it in that post?
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Post Post #2000  (isolation #613)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:44 pm

In post 1996, StealthyNoodle wrote:
In post 1995, nancy wrote:No lol, explain what in world was going through your head when you made that post

Seriously?

Ya
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Post Post #2003  (isolation #614)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:46 pm

It's a scumtell for me too. I'm not saying that Noodle scumslipped.
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Post Post #2006  (isolation #615)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:54 pm

Omg I got Noodle to explain himself I'm a literal hero.

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Post Post #2009  (isolation #616)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:56 pm

In post 2004, Alisae wrote:I'm saying that Drixx pushing that slip sorta doesn't look like SvS to me.

I mean, I don't think Noodle is scum but that is a kinda standard way to give your scumbud towncred, like, why would he be pushing a bus if he's on the chopping block
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Post Post #2011  (isolation #617)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:57 pm

In post 2008, StealthyNoodle wrote:Funny how you managed to decipher that as me being annoyed about Pine getting all the creds for us bussing eachother.

;) :good:
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Post Post #2012  (isolation #618)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:58 pm

In post 2007, Alisae wrote:For you!

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XD :nerd:
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Post Post #2014  (isolation #619)  » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:59 pm

In post 2010, StealthyNoodle wrote:This sick power play of yours.

You should click the RC quote in my sig.

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Post Post #2021  (isolation #620)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:03 am

In post 2017, Chronicle wrote:2017 post get

y u aktiv lurk
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Post Post #2023  (isolation #621)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:04 am

In post 2020, StealthyNoodle wrote:*dead*

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Post Post #2025  (isolation #622)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:04 am

In post 2022, Chronicle wrote:I've got no motivation to play currently, I'm just quietly following.

is it bcuz ur scumz?
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Post Post #2026  (isolation #623)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:06 am

In post 2023, nancy wrote:
In post 2020, StealthyNoodle wrote:*dead*

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^ Me after Civ maf.
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Post Post #2029  (isolation #624)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:08 am

Don't worry he's scums
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Post Post #2030  (isolation #625)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:08 am

In post 2028, Chronicle wrote:
In post 2025, nancy wrote:
In post 2022, Chronicle wrote:I've got no motivation to play currently, I'm just quietly following.

is it bcuz ur scumz?

nah

r u sure tho :doc:
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Post Post #2034  (isolation #626)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:09 am

In post 2027, Chronicle wrote:given your play style a tonal read wouldn't be accurate

Noooooooo tonal read is the best way to read Aslan, or anyone for that matter really
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Post Post #2037  (isolation #627)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:10 am

I don't get why Void was so peeved about the roleswap honestly. Like he clearly knew what was going on so
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Post Post #2040  (isolation #628)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:14 am

What about White Flag
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Post Post #2041  (isolation #629)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:15 am

I never read Hogwarts! Your first scumgame hooray!

Also, your scum game is really good so shush.
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Post Post #2042  (isolation #630)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:23 am

Aslan do you still have facial hairs
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Post Post #2044  (isolation #631)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:24 am

Yea but that was like February.

Also I feel like this is one of those games where we're going to mislynch today and then I'm going to be spoiled and I'm going to be like oh *fuck* god damn it Town is gonna lose now
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Post Post #2046  (isolation #632)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:26 am

Aslan what do you think about the Chronicle and WhyMafia associatives?

pedit oh okay
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Post Post #2051  (isolation #633)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:31 am

People haven't been scumhunting much all game tho tbh
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Post Post #2052  (isolation #634)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:33 am

Like people kind of piled on me all game and then when they found out I was Town they sort of gave up and stopped playing for the most part
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Post Post #2056  (isolation #635)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:34 am

Btw I was saying No Lynch was optimal earlier which was just a brainfart because you don't No Lynch unless Doctor is hidden.
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Post Post #2058  (isolation #636)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:35 am

In post 2055, Chronicle wrote:Pine and Loop lurked too much, 2 conftown in D1, both of which could easily carry town.

I mean, it feels to me that town probably has this win coming, just whether or not we are gonna go through the mislynches to get there.

Basically I just feel I don't really have anything to add right now.

:(

That's really why I wanted to be more teacher-y and take a backseat from the gamestate :////
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Post Post #2064  (isolation #637)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:40 am

In post 2054, Alisae wrote:That kinda reminds me of Elemental Trinity :P

Except I finally rolled a PR for once in my life :P

Still never got to play as BP which would be my literal dream role but yea.
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Post Post #2069  (isolation #638)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:43 am

In post 2067, Alisae wrote:Litterally would have carried NY199 if not for mod error.

Oh no!! What happened?
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Post Post #2070  (isolation #639)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:45 am

I didn't say it was a slip lol I said he was literally intentionally claiming scum. But it was mostly a joke /and/ I am a hero for it because I got Noodle to explain a thought process for like the 1st time in the game, which I am probably more proud about that than anything else I have done so far this game.
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Post Post #2075  (isolation #640)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:54 am

That's very sad :(

Actually I've heard Pine talk about that game.

Nos is a girl btw
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Post Post #2079  (isolation #641)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:59 am

A for agree and yet also A for the A in NAI.
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Post Post #2081  (isolation #642)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:04 am

I think this was my first one. I haven't changed my avi in a while and probs won't ever.

Spoiler:
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Post Post #2085  (isolation #643)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:07 am

Spoiler:
http://i.picresize.com/UqDh


scum!nancy has not yet appeared and I suppose maybe never will. I have that game with RC but that really isn't representative at all I don't think of what my scum game would be.
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Post Post #2087  (isolation #644)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:09 am

zzzz

(my first avi)
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pedit I never really scumread Noodle, Chronicle. And what you have to understand about my scumread of you is that your behavior was legitimately weird as fuck, like you just don't chainsaw for people like that /ever/, it's super scummy. I was townreading you before then.
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Post Post #2088  (isolation #645)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:10 am

Wow it's not an image file I just suck.
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Post Post #2089  (isolation #646)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:10 am

:facepalm:
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Post Post #2091  (isolation #647)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:12 am

W-wait wait but wait no n-no
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Post Post #2093  (isolation #648)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:14 am

>.>

<.<

>.>
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Post Post #2096  (isolation #649)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:18 am

In post 2094, Chronicle wrote:I just didn't understand why people scumread Noodle, because it was pretty obvious Noodle was town to me. The way you pushed Noodle over the wincon argument seemed too shallow to me, and maybe I got too caught up and just started pushing you because it was a bad push, and because.

It was not my best push in retrospect, but I'd probably do the same if we turned back time.

It wasn't a bad push though, that's the thing. There was pure Town motivation behind that push and the way you came in and disrupted it was very much the opposite.
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Post Post #2098  (isolation #650)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:22 am

Like, a Town push is one that is driven by questions, and the desire to find answers. A scum push is one that is driven by knowledge, and the manipulation of that knowledge to hide the answers and stifle questions.

pedit because he wasn't obvtown and he wasn't being responsible.
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Post Post #2099  (isolation #651)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:24 am

Like, just don't jump to conclusions when you're Town. You always question yourself. And coming in and chainsawing for a townread Day 1 is just not a good way to go about covering your blind spots as Town, i.e., being responsible.
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Post Post #2100  (isolation #652)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:26 am

Sitting back and thinking that your townreads are 100% reliable is also not responsible. Which is why I pushed him. Even if I thought he was Town, I needed answers and explanations from him because I wasn't just going to lazily let myself assume that I was correctly interpreting him as Town.
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Post Post #2101  (isolation #653)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:30 am

Noodle's early game was actually kind of objectively obvscum and that's why Pine was able to push on him so easily and that's why I was also entertaining him as scum, even though I saw through that superficial appearance and decided that he was probably Town (even before his push on Pine where he did start to look objectively townie).
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Post Post #2103  (isolation #654)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:37 am

Chronicle
Noodle

Tes
WM

Aslan

Srceenplay
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Post Post #2104  (isolation #655)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:39 am

I don't really have any real faith in any of those reads except the top two tbh.
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Post Post #2105  (isolation #656)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:43 am

I also don't really hide my reads anymore Aslan, except for really specific strategic purposes. The only reads I've hidden this game were scum!Pine Day 1 because I thought I probably needed to dance with him and scum!Src early today because I didn't want to influence people.
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Post Post #2106  (isolation #657)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:25 am

Since everyone else has refused to do it....


Spoiler: Associative tally
Chronicle +5
Loopdan +6
WhyMafia +8
Tes -4
Srceenplay +3
Noodle -6

Scum is unlikely to be either the highest or lowest in terms of associatives, so I feel pretty much fine assuming that Pine ISO associatives contraindicate scum!Noodle and scum!WhyMafia by the tally alone.



In post 81, Pine wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure scum are trying to ramp up the nancy bandwagon for a quick kill so they can sit back and go "oopsie!"

Getting a vibe that at least one scum is on nancy right now, maybe both.

nancy (L-2): WhyMafia, Pine, StealthyNoodle
StealthyNoodle (L-3): Chronicle, Loopdan
Srceenplay (L-4): TesXX
Pine (L-4): nancy
Loopdan (L-4): Srceenplay

Not voting: bjc0303



Spoiler: Srceenplay
In post 387, Pine wrote:-Srceenplay 290 out of left field, strikes me as newTown, insufficient evidence for a strong read.

Unsupported characterization.

In post 387, Pine wrote:-CogMachine catchup post shouts newTown. TRing TesXX for very incorrect reasons (obsession with setup rather than reads is scummy, not Towny). I'd object to the srceenplay SR, but the guy has less content than I do and he's actually been posting consistently. Pressure is good.

No apparent reason to object to a SR.

In post 387, Pine wrote:-386 is goodposting

It really isn't because it was based on Srceenplay misunderstanding a post.

I don't think Srceenplay's content up to this point warrants Pine's lack of attention to the slot.


Spoiler: Loopdan
In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 1
-WhyMafia jumping on Chronicle for being vote 2 on Stealthy instead of LoopDan for being the third vote strikes me as odd and disingenuous, and if this weren't a Newbie game I'd be all over that. We'll see how it plays out.

Hides a scummy vote by Loopdan in an attack on WhyMafia.

In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 5
-A little concerned about LoopDan's push against non-claimers in the BP strategy. Citing prior results does not guarantee future success. This looks like a fallacy of some kind. Also not a fan of his dig at nancy about her statement about teaching>wincon (though I superficially agree with him, the best way to teach is to stick to wincon).

Softball.

In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 12
-LoopDan pagetop endorsement of Tes!Town and Noodle!Town just gobsmacks me. No.

Familiarity, as if he's completely unworried how Loopdan will take his comment.

In post 387, Pine wrote:-Tentatively agreeing with nancy 314, LoopDan looks like stubborn Town SE sticking to bad reads.

Sounds exactly like a scumbud characterization.


Spoiler: WhyMafia
In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 1
-WhyMafia jumping on Chronicle for being vote 2 on Stealthy instead of LoopDan for being the third vote strikes me as odd and disingenuous, and if this weren't a Newbie game I'd be all over that. We'll see how it plays out.
In post 387, Pine wrote:-WhyMafia then jumping onto nancy looks like scum falling into her trap. Definitely putting a pin in that.
In post 387, Pine wrote:-WhyMafia continues to make moves that come off as opportunistic, specifically moving against LoopDan for a page 1 RVS vote. Hesitating a little on my scumread though, not sure even newScum would do this.

All this comes off as vaguely coach-y and softballed.

In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 8
-Getting cold feet on my WhyMafia SR now. Meandering uncertainty looks more like newTown than newScum. Some of his reads in 194 are hard to push, where I see newScum going for easier targets.

Clearly making pains to interpret WhyMafia's content in the best possible light.

In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 9
-Interactions between StealthyNoodle and WhyMafia don't strike me as scum theatre, especially given lack of daytalk (I double-checked; post 3)

He's scumreading Noodle, so, the message is SvT, town!WhyMafia.

In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 10
-Not a ton to say here, though the vultures circling over my absence are really obvious. StealthyNoodle, TesXX, and WhyMafia spend the whole page setting up pushes against me and her. Taking down a Town IC and dynamic SE would virtually guarantee a scum win. Not sure completely which two of the three is scum, but I'm pretty sure it's in that set of {Noodle, TesXX, WhyMafia}. Still, this is stream-of-consciousness, so it's possible that later events will suggest differently.

Neither Tes nor WhyMafia were doing that, their inclusion feels like distancing. If you want to go for the 1 in 3 then you're looking at WhyMafia.

In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 13
-WhyMafia 303 strikes me as gamesolving. Asking incisive motivations-based questions of the hardest-to-sort active player.

Generous characterization of WhyMafia's content.

These feel more like fake associatives than anything else honestly. Only thing making me hesitate here is that Pine was completely obvious with his buddying of me, so I see no great reason to assume he wouldn't be equally obvious with his defending of a scumbud.


Spoiler: Tes
In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 7
-nancy's push against TesXX at the bottom of 6/top of 7 doesn't make any damn sense. However, what's much more incisive is TesXX's reaction to it. His reaction to strong suspicion screams "I am scum frustrated at being caught for the wrong reasons." This is a classic tell, but is sometimes hard to distinguish from "Town suspected for bad reasons." This one definitely strikes me as the former. Post 167 in particular raises a red flag.
In post 387, Pine wrote:TRing TesXX for very incorrect reasons (obsession with setup rather than reads is scummy, not Towny).
In post 387, Pine wrote:Page 11
-Noodle attacks on nancy continue to be trying to make something out of nothing. This strikes me strongly as someone trying to take down a threat.
-I do not endorse Tracker-claiming: The whole point of BP-claiming is that it limits scum fakeclaiming opportunities without a drawback for Town. Having a Tracker claim is BEGGING for scum to roleblock or kill a major investigative role. Heavy suspicion of TesXX for suggesting this.

Honestly the temptation is to just put Tes as locktown from these quotes alone.



Spoiler: Pine's readslist
In post 425, Pine wrote:Hard Town
nancy
Chronicle
Probably Town
CogMachine
The Funky Middle
WhyMafia
Under Suspicion
Srceenplay
Loopdan
Solid Scumreads
TesXX
StealthyNoodle

Tes doesn't belong as an SR there based on Pine's comments so far, but Pine needed two scumreads in order for his readslist to seem more legitimate. Reluctance to put either Srceenplay or Loopdan in there instead indicates town!Tes and 1 scum in {Loopdan, Srceenplay}. The rest are justified by the analysis given.
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Post Post #2107  (isolation #658)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:30 am

I actually kind of forgot how badly Pine treats Tes so I should probably move that slot up to live at the bottom of my townreads.

If my reads are on-point we lynch 1 of {Aslan, Srceenplay} and track the other, presuming inno result lynch WhyMafia Day 3. If WhyMafia flips Town we have a MyLo of {Aslan, Chronicle, Noodle, Tes} with conf!Aslan.
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Post Post #2109  (isolation #659)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:44 am

Mini I love you.

I love you toooo ♥
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Post Post #2110  (isolation #660)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:51 am

I think this is right darling but double-check me.

Srceenplay (L-2): TesXX, StealthyNoodle, nancy
TesXX (L-4): Srceenplay

Not voting: BlackVoid, Chronicle, WhyMafia, Alisae

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Post Post #2111  (isolation #661)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:04 am

Spoiler: Loopdan
In post 81, Pine wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure scum are trying to ramp up the nancy bandwagon for a quick kill so they can sit back and go "oopsie!"

Getting a vibe that at least one scum is on nancy right now, maybe both.
In post 98, Loopdan wrote:@nancy I agree that this strat is not the best way to introduce newbies to the game, but I'm not the IC (and neither are you). Your wincon should take precedence over your desire to teach newbs. I get opposing the BP claim strat if the claims hadn't started yet, but with 6/9 already claiming it only helps scum to have incomplete claims.

Also, this would not detract from RVS if you would have followed instructions and claimed in your first post.

@srceen-- you too

I refuse to vote anywhere else but non-claimers until this is resolved.

VOTE: nancy
In post 107, Loopdan wrote:
In post 81, Pine wrote:Getting a vibe that at least one scum is on nancy right now, maybe both.


Can you explain this vibe?
In post 109, Loopdan wrote:
In post 106, nancy wrote:I have already stated that I believe teaching takes precedence over win-con.


Then you should be force-replaced.

But I'd rather your slot not be derphammered.

VOTE: Srceen

I still hate this sequence.


In post 275, Loopdan wrote:VOTE: Pine

I'd also be ok with a Nancy lynch.

And I'm not tracker.

I still hate this vote.


In post 276, Loopdan wrote:Tes and noodle are screaming town to me.

I still hate this characterization.


In post 285, Loopdan wrote:Sometimes votes are for lynching. Sometimes they are for pressure. Sometimes for gauging reactions of the voted players or others.

My pine vote is multipurpose.

This still reads fake.


In post 487, Loopdan wrote:Reasons I'm wary of nancy:
1. Her refusal to claim and the continual arguments over the strategy
2. Making a huge deal about being all about teaching newbies over wincon
3. For arguing pretty much exactly what scum in my last Newbie argued when opposing the BP claim strat day1.
4. For the VT claim out of nowhere that is in no way pro-town (the post does look like legit frustration, but that doesn't mean it's town frustration)
5. On the other hand looks like fake frustration

On the other hand:
1. nancy's answer to me in looks town. Like if she is scum that is seriously good buddying. I disagree with the rest of 385 where she tries to explain why she was "obviously" VT, but I can see the reasoning possibly coming from town.
2. I don't agree with , but that looks like town.
3. When she's not arguing about the claiming strat, there is some hunting and evidence of an uninformed mindset (ex:, , )

@Nancy-- I really want a more in-depth read from you on Pine. I don't have much insight on his alignment. And you had an early TR on him, which you've only explained as...
In post 240, nancy wrote:
In post 206, WhyMafia wrote:Why are you so sure pine is town? He made only a few posts and they were simply to defend you. I'm just interested in hearing your reasoning

Pine and I are friends, and I like to think I can get a pretty good read on him early on. Combination of gut and recognizing patterns.

What patterns?

This still reads fake.


In post 528, Loopdan wrote:VOTE: WhyMafia

I don't like his last five posts at all. Trying to look like casual town, but obviously cares how other's view his slot.

This also still reads fake.


In post 536, Loopdan wrote:
In post 534, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 533, Srceenplay wrote:Not when you lynch scum

Quickhammer me
I dare you

Let's see who's right


^not a town post

I still hate this.


In post 555, Loopdan wrote:My TR on Noodle is fading.

I still hate this too.


In post 572, Loopdan wrote:
In post 559, Chronicle wrote:
In post 555, Loopdan wrote:My TR on Noodle is fading.

Why


I didn't like "welcome to the top of my readslist." I mean it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great. Walking back from it in , after questioned by Tes, wasn't great either.

looks like acting.
is cheerleading.

Like I said, not terrible, but the TR has lost some of it's shine.

This still reads fake as fuck.


In post 662, Loopdan wrote:I'm here. Why do you need me to respond to the claim? We have a confirmed doc-tracker setup (unless there's a CC) and now we play follow the tracker.

I'll vote Why, Pine, or Nancy.

I still hate this.


In post 686, Loopdan wrote:Before Pine was being replaced I preferred a WhyMafia lynch because given nancy and pine's close relationship it's likely that if one of them is town they will accurately read the other at some point in the game. I've had success with forcing close players to read each other. But with pine being replaced that is lost.

@nancy-- Please explain your pine vote and then unvote.

This still reads fake.


In post 792, Loopdan wrote:Nancy, how is Noodle scum if you have secretly been scumreading pine and pine was voting noodle and pine never buses?

I still hate this.


In post 794, Loopdan wrote:
In post 791, nancy wrote:you are squarely within my lynchpool as you stand right now.


Didn't you recently say I was a TR?

And this.


In post 795, Loopdan wrote:Also I think the bolded part in 706 reveals a scum POV.

VOTE: nancy

And this.


In post 922, Loopdan wrote:I don't see a counterclaim.

UNVOTE:

@Noodle-- Explain why you softed a PR.

@Drixx-- Answer nancy's question about why you scumread me.

@nancy-- We need to talk in post-game about how you played day1. This was far from optimal.

This still reads fake.


In post 975, Loopdan wrote:How many votes on Drixx?
Consider mine there.
In post 1090, Loopdan wrote:VOTE: Drixx L-1

@nancy-- Your unvote on Drixx makes no sense. You've been scum-reading Pine all game right? And Drixx has done nothing. Then you unvote because you don't like the wagon that has conftown on it?

And fuck do I hate those two.


In post 1091, Loopdan wrote:
In post 1034, StealthyNoodle wrote:@chronicle even now, my gut is screaming that nancy's scum. I'm waiting for doc to claim before deadline.


Marking this post for later. Someone remind me to talk about it before EoD (but not now).

Hate hate hate hate vomit.


Oh I was meant to be looking exclusively for associatives and I got sidetracked because I hate his ISO so much. Oops.
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Post Post #2112  (isolation #662)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:19 am

Spoiler: WhyMafia
In post 194, WhyMafia wrote:Screenplay - Neutral, slightly miffed he's pushing me, but it's my fault for missing loopdens post. I want his reads before saying anything conclusive. Idk how it's considered lurking, we all have outside lives. If I wanted to lurk, I wouldn't have replied "a few hours" in the first place. Seems to be aggressive against the new player, some of it deserved, but I don't trust him fully. Maybe I'm just biased.


In post 206, WhyMafia wrote:@nancy


Why are you so sure pine is town? He made only a few posts and they were simply to defend you. I'm just interested in hearing your reasoning


In post 299, WhyMafia wrote:Not tracker

I'm kind of confused why there is a push for the lynch of pine. While it's bad to lose an active town, chances are they are vanilla townie and we can base future Lynchs off the reactions/comments of others. A pine lynch without him defending himself could cause us to lose an important town role. Not only that, we gain far less info from a pine lynch


In post 340, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 306, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 303, WhyMafia wrote:@srceenplay
If you could protect one person who would it be
If you could kill someone who would it be (daykill)

Protect myself
Kill pine.

That's susp in my eyes. Of all the people to kill, you choose Pine? So you feel he would provide js with the most info? L m a o
I personally don't find anything suspicious with loop apart from his advocacy with a pine lynch. I'm confused why people repeatedly ask me about him. Can someone explain to me what he did?

I feel like everyone who was in favor of a Pine lynch is pulling back after realizing that it went looking good. Why take a risk to kill an inactive who could be a power role when we could actively look for someone who is scum. There are other potential scum ..


In post 342, WhyMafia wrote:I have a slight suspicion on him, but nothing worth killing him over atm. His only posts of substance were defending Nancy early game. I would hope to think that he's too experienced to be the scum that lurks. Heck, he almost got replaced. There's no point in killing someone if we know little about them. We have a 7/9 chance of killing town after all


In post 356, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 355, Pine wrote:Hi all! Thank you mod for cutting me some slack, I've largely been absent from the site for several days due to real life issues. I'm catching up right now.

When you finish reading up, reads list please

VOTE: SrceenPlay
I just don't buy him. He advocated a Pine lynch for reasons that are absolute garbage + I am biased towards him XD


In post 412, WhyMafia wrote:Meant to include this sorry VOTE: SrceenPlay
You tried to get Pine killed and now you seem very defensive over it. Your latest response (well I'm not voting him) seems to be whining. I feel as though you were hoping to put pressure on someone else, and quickly back off if it doesn't work out.
I'm not sure if I explained this right, if someone's confused just tell me


In post 429, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 425, Pine wrote:
In post 419, Srceenplay wrote:Pine
Since you just read and caught up. Everything is fresh in your mind. Can we get a read list?

My reads were pretty plainly stated, but I can give you a TL;DR summary.
The Funky Middle
WhyMafia

I am honored


In post 433, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 431, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 427, TesXX wrote:
In post 283, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 282, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 275, Loopdan wrote:VOTE: Pine

Why vote Pine? He just got prodded.


It's easier to lynch someone when they are not around to defend themselves.

VOTE: Pine


Not tracker

In post 323, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 322, CogMachine wrote:
In post 321, Srceenplay wrote:@cog
What do you want to fight about?

Why do you want an easy lynch?

What made Pine compelling? Do you have any actual town reads?

1) I don't.
2) Pine couldn't defend himself.
3) still working on a list.

Srceenplay can you explain this?

Sure!
I said it's easier to lynch someone when they don't defend themselves.
When asked why I want an easy lynch, I said I don't.

My mind is mush
You pushed Pine bc it was easy to lynch but you didn't want an easy lynch? The hell


In post 934, WhyMafia wrote:I personally think scum team includes Noodle. Not only for all the reasons you guys listed, but also for his interactions with me. He repeatedly hard defends me from every push against me. Not saying I don't appreciate it, but it's fishy. If he's scum, he would know I am town. However, the way things were going sometimes, I could be perceived as someone who might get lynched. That way, once I'm lynched, it seems like he's town because he repeatedly attempted to defend me. Adding on to that, if he gets lynched as scum, it'll create associations that Noodle seemed to defend me from a lynch. Therefore, I have a higher possibility of being his scum buddy. Hope his makes sense
Sorry if you're town Noodle :/
VOTE: StealthyNoodle


In post 1062, WhyMafia wrote:Town = Nancy, BlackVoid
Town Lean = Nobody :/
Unsure = Stealthy, Chronicle
Scum Lean = Loopdan, SrceenPlay, Tes
Scum = Drixx


In post 1111, WhyMafia wrote:@Nancy
It's just that it's a gut read on Noodle. I can't provide any solid evidence, I just am finding him to be willing to contribute and is open.

Some of the other players in this game (Tes, Srceen) have contributed far less
Have we settled upon lynching Drixx?


In post 1119, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: SrceenPlay
Die scum


In post 1159, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 1151, TesXX wrote:[...]

btw
is this the best you can do?
It seems like you put hardly any effort into those reads. Literally everything you said is parroting what other's have said. I fail to see how thinking of these reasons were hard, considering everyone already posted these reasonings. VOTE: TesXX



Man I can't be bothered commenting on those but they're fucking ugly. Like the only reason I've been discounting a WM lynch today is because it's seemed too fucking obvious. Like I picked this team before double digit pages and that just doesn't happen. But, saying random shit about being biased towards Src. Chainsawing and defending for Pine. He had Drixx as a scumread for unexplained reasons when the wagon was locked in and yet kept trying to push CWs. Followed Drixx onto Noodle for Drixx's last gasp. He's done nothing today but claim scum and troll around.
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Post Post #2113  (isolation #663)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:23 am

We can always lynch WM today and track Aslan tonight, lynch Src tomorrow if inno report. Not like it changes anything.

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Post Post #2114  (isolation #664)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:42 am

If you're scum outside of the guaranteed MyLo bloc {Chronicle, Noodle, Tes}, would be helpful if you could just claim instead of slowrolling this and putting us through another Night phase.
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Post Post #2115  (isolation #665)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:45 am

Well, really, if you're scum outside of {Chronicle, Noodle}, claiming would be great because you're in autoloss. Tes if you're scum you're not going to win against those two because they've been hard defending each other all game.
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Post Post #2116  (isolation #666)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:49 am

^ That was my 666th post.

Anyway. Polite thing to do here is just to claim scum rather than force mod and Town to go through multiple phases just to end a game that's already concluded. So please, for the sake of everyone, admit defeat. Not shameful to do and no one will think poorly of you. I kind of broke the game with my BP claim and push on Pine so you lost to a good opponent and that's pretty much it.
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Post Post #2118  (isolation #667)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:42 am

I'd really prefer it if scum would just claim to save us the bother of going through Night phases and forcing Mini to resolve more flips, but sure.
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Post Post #2120  (isolation #668)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:49 am

Which is why I'm lynching WM. I think Aslan would be decent enough to claim scum here, especially after they read this page if they didn't realize before. Aslan doesn't give up even when odds look like utter shit as well he shouldn't but literal autoloss is a different story.
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Post Post #2122  (isolation #669)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:52 am

Which is why it's autowin.
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Post Post #2123  (isolation #670)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:54 am

I dunno, I guess I just don't get the stubborn thing. There's no point to it. A loss is a loss. Slowrolling is just a waste of everyone's time.
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Post Post #2124  (isolation #671)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:11 am

scum!WhyMafia: lynched Day 2. Loss.
scum!Aslan: guiltied Night 2 by Tracker, lynched Day 3. Loss.
scum!Srceenplay: lynched Day 3. Loss.
scum!TesXX: lynched Day 4. Loss.

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Post Post #2146  (isolation #672)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:33 pm

Srceenplay the world in which you flip Town is so distant I'd need a Hubble to see it.

Waiting for BlackVoid and TesXX to post.

Void, confirm you will track Aslan please.

If scum other than Srceenplay refuses to claim scum then we go about this long and stupid way.
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Post Post #2147  (isolation #673)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:34 pm

BlackVoid this is autowin can you just stop.
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Post Post #2148  (isolation #674)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Like fuck if scum is so fucking intent on slowrolling this shit then let's just all unvote and wait until deadline if that's what they fucking want so much.
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Post Post #2149  (isolation #675)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:40 pm

THE GAME IS FUCKING OVER

YOU ARE WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME
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Post Post #2152  (isolation #676)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:45 pm

YOU ARE NOT BEING SURVIVALISTIC RIGHT NOW YOU ARE JUST WASTING OUR TIME

YOU ARE 100% DEAD

YOU. ARE. NOT. GOING. TO. SURVIVE.

NO ONE IS GOING TO BE IMPRESSED THAT YOU SLOWROLLED

IT IS FUCKING RUDE

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN THIS JUST BE OVER
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Post Post #2153  (isolation #677)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Dude I am not even talking to you Srceenplay because you are going to be lynched if scum doesn't stop being an ass
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Post Post #2154  (isolation #678)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:51 pm

Like I respect you Srceenplay and I believe that you would have claimed scum by now so I am pretty sure you are not scum and the real scum is just being a jerk about this.
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Post Post #2156  (isolation #679)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:54 pm

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Post Post #2158  (isolation #680)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:03 pm

VOTE: TesXX
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Post Post #2160  (isolation #681)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:08 pm

I get that you think this trolling is funny but it isn't, it's boring and stupid and no one cares, all you're doing is wasting people's time so congrats.
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Post Post #2161  (isolation #682)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:21 pm

Like, MS is not some forum where people troll each other. People respect each other here and by not claiming scum you are just being completely disrespectful to the mod and the players because you have a 0% chance of winning this game and yet are apparently going to slowroll and force us to go through the motions just to get this over with.
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Post Post #2163  (isolation #683)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:31 pm

No dude. The game is already solved. There is not going to be any new information. And you don't no lynch with a doc revealed anyway so don't recommend that play to newbies.
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Post Post #2164  (isolation #684)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:33 pm

UNVOTE:

You know what, scum is so intent on being a douche about this we just sit here. We have 9 days. You can't re-join the queue until this game is over so congrats.

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Post Post #2167  (isolation #685)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:42 pm

If scum wants to hold this game hostage I'll hold scum hostage.

If scum is in the newbies, they are preventing themselves from being able to re-join the queue by slowrolling.

If scum is outside the newbies, they are preventing the newbies from being able to re-join the queue by slowrolling.

Deadline is in 9 days. How long do you want to hold the game up?


pedit TesXX no one honestly cares about perfect wins in newbies. And if you're scum refusing to claim today just because you want to deny Town a perfect win for whatever reason that attitude is just digusting and I have nothing to say to you.
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Post Post #2171  (isolation #686)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:02 pm

It's extremely irrelevant. A win is a win regardless of how it's achieved. A loss is equally a loss. Caring about getting perfect wins will just paralyze your play because you'll be so focused on results that you'll neglect the process and the process is all that matters.
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Post Post #2173  (isolation #687)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:10 pm

If you want to play without any emotion Noodle that's totally fine and totally up to you.
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Post Post #2177  (isolation #688)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:19 pm

In post 2174, StealthyNoodle wrote:
In post 2173, nancy wrote:If you want to play without any emotion Noodle that's totally fine and totally up to you.

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Post Post #2178  (isolation #689)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:20 pm

In post 2175, StealthyNoodle wrote:
In post 2171, nancy wrote:Caring about getting perfect wins will just paralyze your play because you'll be so focused on results that you'll neglect the process

Wrong, but oh well.

What makes you say that?
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Post Post #2180  (isolation #690)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:25 pm

Congratulations we are finally on the same page.
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Post Post #2183  (isolation #691)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:32 pm

Well, it's what I've learned from being a part of various professional and non-professional sporting environments.
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Post Post #2186  (isolation #692)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:37 pm

I don't really see the difference. We're in a competitive environment geared around securing a win, if we were playing for money this would be a sport, the application is pretty much equivalent.
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Post Post #2187  (isolation #693)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:40 pm

Anyway my AtE didn't work so whatever.

VOTE: WhyMafia

Void track Aslan tonight and follow my plan if this isn't scum because we're in autowin if Town doesn't throw the game.
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Post Post #2190  (isolation #694)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:50 pm

In post 2188, StealthyNoodle wrote:Achieving a perfect town-win, isn't really obtainable in any other game than a newbie one.
It's a great incentive for digging into all the small details.
Assuming autowin is risky and lazy. You can already see that there are several player's who don't believe win is secured.

It's possible in any game, just extremely rare. That incentive is there for me regardless. If you focus on a perfect win then when that fails you lose drive and your focus is lost. That is why the focus should be on the process. If a perfect win occurs, awesome, your hard work paid off, but focusing on the results is a surefire path to burnout.

If you and Chronicle are Town, we are 100% in autowin.
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Post Post #2191  (isolation #695)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:53 pm

In post 2189, BlackVoid wrote:@nancy, I'd love to hear the distinctions in your reads on WhyMafia, Alisae, Noodle. It wouldn't hurt to have a little more confidence in a single read than just "one of these people are scum and we're in autowin."

Did you read my posts wrt associatives? I mean, I can go over Aslan's ISO too if you want. And go through the entire game looking at how slots treated Pine rather than just unidirectionally looking at associatives from Pine's perspective. But I've already tried pushing for a lynch on Aslan's slot for pretty much the entire game and no one has ever wanted to, so do you really think that we're going to lynch him today over WM?
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Post Post #2192  (isolation #696)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:54 pm

Like, I don't get why you think I haven't done the work on this.
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Post Post #2200  (isolation #697)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:01 pm

In post 2194, StealthyNoodle wrote:You believe we'll be too burned out to work towards a regular win, if we don't achieve a perfect one? Your arguments just keep getting weaker tbh.

I'm telling you that if you invest all of your energy into getting a specific result and don't attain it you're liable to experience burnout. If you focus on a process that is likely produce that result instead then you far less liable to experience burnout.
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Post Post #2201  (isolation #698)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:04 pm

In post 2198, BlackVoid wrote:Not saying you haven't done the work. I'm just saying I'm not ready to lynch yet because I haven't done the work. I read your post on the associations. My worry is that if you and Pine know each other so well, it's very possible he decided that he would bus in this game to throw you off. He even started out the game talking about how much he doesn't bus so it's clear he expects you to think he doesn't bus. That's the main reason I think StealthyNoodle should be examined more before we cross him off the list. Drixx lying down and taking the lynch is something that adds to this theory. The lynch wasn't set in stone until the very end of the day and I think if Drixx was partnered with WhyMafia, he had nothing to lose by fighting tooth and nail to dodge the lynch. It's only if his partner was set for the game that he wouldn't want to disturb the prevailing town consensus. As for Alisae, I'm fine voting him if we both conclude that he's scum. I don't think anyone's unlynchable.

I don't think that Pine would teach newbies something he categorically opposes as a matter of mafia theory simply to win a game. I also don't think he would compromise his meta for one game. But I'm fine going through everything.
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Post Post #2203  (isolation #699)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:05 pm

In post 2196, StealthyNoodle wrote:I don't trust Chronicle. Several players don't acknowledge me as town. You gotta take other's views into consideration.

I thought you had Chronicle as locktown?
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Post Post #2205  (isolation #700)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:08 pm

Like, you two have been hard buddying each other all game :P
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Post Post #2210  (isolation #701)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:14 pm

Noodle hasn't trusted me all game either so let's take that with a grain of salt.
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Post Post #2212  (isolation #702)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:16 pm

In post 2207, StealthyNoodle wrote:I just don't see why he's locktown(if that's even the right term).

Locktown is a slot that you have conclusively sorted as Town and cannot believe a universe where they are scum. It's one step short of mechanically conf!town.
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Post Post #2220  (isolation #703)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:59 pm

Noodle do me a favor and go through Chronicle's ISO and tell me what you think about the associatives in there?
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Post Post #2224  (isolation #704)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:31 pm

Uhhhh that is really creepy and disturbing and I wish for it to have not occurred in my life. Spoiler tags are our friend also.
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Post Post #2226  (isolation #705)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:03 pm

Chronicle = apathetic scum
WhyMafia = survivalistic scum
Aslan = opportunistic scum
Srceenplay = lazy scum

WHICH ONE IS THE REAL SCUM????

- YOU DECIDE -
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Post Post #2228  (isolation #706)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:30 pm

Oh yea I forgot Tes was scum.
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Post Post #2229  (isolation #707)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:49 pm

VOTE: TesXX

We can actually lynch this today though.
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Post Post #2230  (isolation #708)  » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:44 pm

After extensive soul searching, Noodle and Src are now locktown for me.

My new lynch order is TesXX > Chronicle > WhyMafia > Aslan, one of which can eliminated or confirmed by a track result.
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Post Post #2237  (isolation #709)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:04 am

Like yes it was thoroughly dickish but it was dickish on purpose :P

If you want to go through ISOs then go for it. Don't ask me to direct your focus though!
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Post Post #2238  (isolation #710)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:05 am

I also want you to be tracked more than anyone else because I want you to be conf!town more than anyone else.
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Post Post #2244  (isolation #711)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:13 am

Oh hi Void.

Ftr I don't really buy Chronicle's apathy here coming from Town. Feels more like scum saying "meh, I played a good game and am losing anyway". So that's why I wanna lynch them after Tes.
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Post Post #2246  (isolation #712)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:16 am

I mean, aside from the other stuff that I'll not talk about at this time.
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Post Post #2247  (isolation #713)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:18 am

Essentially whenever Pine flips scum it's a good idea to lynch from the top of his TRs down but Tes is so goddamn scummy in this game that I just want to ignore that in this case.
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Post Post #2250  (isolation #714)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:23 am

In post 2245, BlackVoid wrote:Let's not worry about who I'm going to track. I actually haven't decided and don't plan to post it in thread when I do.

Tracking Aslan is optimal.
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Post Post #2252  (isolation #715)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:29 am

Void doesn't believe that we're in autowin for whatever reason.
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Post Post #2254  (isolation #716)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:36 am

Dunno. If he tracks you it's autowin. Anyway go make all of the cases to show how townie you are and stuff.
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Post Post #2256  (isolation #717)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:39 am

Lol you should know how to read my tone better than that.
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Post Post #2258  (isolation #718)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:41 am

Just so you know if there's no kill tonight I'm either powerlynching you or No Lynching until a kill happens.
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Post Post #2259  (isolation #719)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:41 am

;)
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Post Post #2261  (isolation #720)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:44 am

/me hugs Aslan
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Post Post #2264  (isolation #721)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:56 am

3/5 to my Civ mafia count and I've /barely/ shitposted.
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Post Post #2266  (isolation #722)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:17 am

Depends on what kind of content you all come up with before deadline.
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Post Post #2269  (isolation #723)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:11 pm

OH NO ASLAN IS TOWN D:
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Post Post #2274  (isolation #724)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:17 pm

We're waiting for Noodle to come in and case Chronicle.
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Post Post #2275  (isolation #725)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:18 pm

Aslan was also gonna do things at some point eventually.
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Post Post #2276  (isolation #726)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:18 pm

Aslan how do you have 165 posts without having done anything that is gross.
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Post Post #2277  (isolation #727)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:20 pm

Aslan why did you come in and then sit around for a bit before crumbing doc and then pretend like you didn't know there was a BP claim?
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Post Post #2280  (isolation #728)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:33 pm

Why did the way I treated the strat suggest that I wasn't BP?
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Post Post #2299  (isolation #729)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:02 pm

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Post Post #2300  (isolation #730)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:08 pm

BlackVoid your insistence on anarchy grosses me out and if you refuse to commit to tracking Aslan tonight then I have no choice but to lynch him.
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Post Post #2303  (isolation #731)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:57 pm

It has nothing to do with my friendship with Aslan and everything to do with my reads. I have already PoEd autowin.

If you want to do it your way then fine, pick a lynch today, track who you want tomorrow, and lynch who you want tomorrow.
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Post Post #2305  (isolation #732)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:01 pm

That is horribly suboptimal and extremely liable to be screwed with by scum.
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Post Post #2307  (isolation #733)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:08 pm

You're not bad at this game you're just scum it's fine.
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Post Post #2309  (isolation #734)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:18 pm

Hooray for scum slowrolling the game.
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Post Post #2312  (isolation #735)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:49 pm

Unless you believe that Chronicle believed that I was fakeclaiming BP as Doc, in order to assume Chronicle gambited a NK you have to assume very suboptimal play and him relying on a derpclear from a track result that was /probably/ but not definitely coming his way.
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Post Post #2313  (isolation #736)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:51 pm

Simplest solution is that Chronicle did not gambit a NK, which is why you eliminate all other suspects first.
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Post Post #2316  (isolation #737)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:07 pm

No, it would cost him a fuck of a lot because a free Day phase is the absolute last thing you want to go through as scum. If there is no Doctor then you obviously kill the Tracker because you cannot be tracked. Anything else is suboptimal.

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Post Post #2317  (isolation #738)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:08 pm

In post 2315, StealthyNoodle wrote:This might've been answered btw. But do we get a read from tracker if he's killed the same turn? I guess no?

No, NA results are PMed to the player where applicable, and the player must then make those results public if so desired.
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Post Post #2318  (isolation #739)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Killing actions are also resolved before investigative actions according to NRA so the Tracker wouldn't even receive a result.
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Post Post #2322  (isolation #740)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:22 pm

In post 2319, StealthyNoodle wrote:Why did I even bother making a post on him then.

Because Chronicle's associatives with Pineslot are disgusting, and to help other slots recognize your alignment. The vast majority of your play as VT should be focused on making yourself blatantly obvious Town and your play this game has not been sufficiently good if you are Town to make that the case for everyone on the table.
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Post Post #2323  (isolation #741)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:24 pm

In post 2320, StealthyNoodle wrote:No wonder i was confused. So this is basically you admitting to fake-claiming theb? From this I figured we'd get to know his result even though he was killed N2.

Yes and 1387 and 1388 were also effectively claiming Doc. I kept up the ruse in order to get reactions on slots but it was completely obvious by the NK that I was fakeclaiming anyway.
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Post Post #2325  (isolation #742)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:30 pm

You are not locktown for every slot on the table, which should be your goal as VT.
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Post Post #2327  (isolation #743)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:43 pm

No, he isn't locktown at all, I am talking about you. You are locktown for me but not for everyone on the table, therefore your play has not been sufficiently good. The purpose of you casing Chronicle is to have people recognize that you are Town, which is your #1 job as VT.
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Post Post #2328  (isolation #744)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:46 pm

In post 2327, nancy wrote:You are locktown for me but not for everyone on the table, therefore your play has not been sufficiently good.

The latter isn't necessarily a logical conclusion of the former, btw. Towns are notoriously bad at recognizing each other and it is very often entirely the fault of the Towns not townreading you rather than yourself for not being Town enough. Look at the way that I've been treated this game, for instance. But you can't control other people, so you focus on your game and doing what you can to be painfully obvious Town.
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Post Post #2330  (isolation #745)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:06 pm

lol
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Post Post #2331  (isolation #746)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:09 pm

Sorry, I shouldn't be impatient.

In post 2329, StealthyNoodle wrote:I rather wish I spent time today doing actual scumreads, than useless reads on a pretty much locked town.

The issue with this reasoning is that you're relying lazily on an intepretation of the NK rather than going through his ISO to determine whether or not you think he is a likely scumpartner. This is a very unsound way to develop locktown reads.
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Post Post #2332  (isolation #747)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:12 pm

Go where your heart takes you, though. I am not objecting to that :)
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Post Post #2333  (isolation #748)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:31 pm

There's no such thing as a "pretty much" locktown btw. That is just a strong Townread. Locktown means it is never flipping scum, ever.
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Post Post #2338  (isolation #749)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:51 pm

In post 2337, TesXX wrote:It isn't autowin is it?
Pine lynch>>townie lynch>>nancy killed>>someone conf'd as town>>townie lynch>>BV killed>>1 non comfirmed townie, 1 scum, noodle, 1 confirmed townie are left
Even if noodle were confTown(which he technically isn't, he's just very likely town) it's not autowin.

From the perspective of any Town slot except me and Void, they need only 1 Townread to win the game. From my perspective and Void's perspective, we need 2 Townreads. Every scenario ends in your lynch before Day 5, where it would be 3:1 LyLo, so yes it is autowin.
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Post Post #2339  (isolation #750)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:55 pm

Tonight I die and Void clears 1 slot as Town, which takes us to Day 3 at 7:1. If Town mislynches, it goes to Day 4 at 5:1, with Void dead. If Town mislynches, it goes to Day 5 at 3:1, with the tracker clear dead. At that point, the two remaining Town players need only 1 Townread (the other Town) to win the game.
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Post Post #2340  (isolation #751)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:57 pm

This is why Noodle's laziness in vetting his Chronicle TR is so bad. If he locks that slot as Town, he is literally guaranteed to win this game.
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Post Post #2341  (isolation #752)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:58 pm

In post 2336, Alisae wrote:Can we just lynch scumz already zzzzz

No, we play out the full 14 days because that's optimal play as Town. Then we lynch Tes.
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Post Post #2342  (isolation #753)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:59 pm

Actually, it's pretty often optimal to lynch 3-4 Days before deadline, but that's another matter and not the case in this game or probably most newbies.
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Post Post #2343  (isolation #754)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:00 pm

days*
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Post Post #2345  (isolation #755)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:12 pm

It's not mechanically autowin but yes it is autowin.
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Post Post #2347  (isolation #756)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:27 pm

In post 2346, Srceenplay wrote:It's funny this game is called escape room

Lynch WhyMafia so we all can go home

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Post Post #2349  (isolation #757)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:49 pm

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Post Post #2350  (isolation #758)  » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:03 pm

....


A wild MiniDeathStar appears!

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Kraaaaww!!
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Post Post #2354  (isolation #759)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:42 am

I will defend you WhyMafia!!

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Post Post #2356  (isolation #760)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:15 am

y u so tonedeaf tho
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Post Post #2358  (isolation #761)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:57 am

And yet his associatives with Pineslot are disgusting and he's been completely inactive all of Day 2 due to "apathy", because yes Town often gets apathetic after a Day 1 scum lynch.
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Post Post #2369  (isolation #762)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 pm

Oh my god there are 7 days left....
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Post Post #2370  (isolation #763)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:16 pm

Hopefully Chronicle doesn't pick up his prod

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Post Post #2372  (isolation #764)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:19 pm

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2376  (isolation #765)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:42 pm

Just in case what?
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Post Post #2380  (isolation #766)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:49 pm

Pagetop 100 belongs to me.

Just saying.
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Post Post #2382  (isolation #767)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:12 pm

Chronicle is lynchable.
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Post Post #2383  (isolation #768)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:12 pm

I will tell you my personal lynch pool at some point later.
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Post Post #2385  (isolation #769)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:42 pm

VOTE: TesXX
VOTE: BlackVoid
VOTE: Chronicle
VOTE: StealthyNoodle
VOTE: nancy
VOTE: WhyMafia
VOTE: Alisae
VOTE: Srceenplay
UNVOTE:

I voted scum guys.
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Post Post #2386  (isolation #770)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:45 pm

Feel free to guess my reads at any time.
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Post Post #2387  (isolation #771)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:01 pm

Src you can go first.
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Post Post #2388  (isolation #772)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:02 pm

Then popcorn it to someone else.
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Post Post #2390  (isolation #773)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:27 pm

He's not going to pick up his prod because he siteflaked.
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Post Post #2392  (isolation #774)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:43 pm

Okay Tes seeing as you're here and Src is not you can go first. Guess my reads then popcorn it to someone else.
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Post Post #2395  (isolation #775)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:03 pm

Include what you think my lynchpool is before popcorning.
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Post Post #2399  (isolation #776)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:46 pm

Popcorn means taking turns and you choose who you want to go next. Since you already started with a lynchpool, we wait. Can't break the process half-way through.

pedit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post Post #2400  (isolation #777)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:47 pm

Give me a lynchpool then and popcorn Src.
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Post Post #2402  (isolation #778)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:58 pm

Dude Chronicle is getting replaced popcorn it to an active slot lmfao.
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Post Post #2404  (isolation #779)  » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:59 pm

*applause*
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Post Post #2406  (isolation #780)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:09 am

Read page 96.
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Post Post #2408  (isolation #781)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:30 am

Self-vote then.
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Post Post #2410  (isolation #782)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:36 am

Yay. Popcorn?
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Post Post #2412  (isolation #783)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:41 am

Cheater!!
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Post Post #2413  (isolation #784)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:43 am

WhyMafia can go next I guess and we just go upwards from the bottom of the playerlist.
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Post Post #2414  (isolation #785)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:58 am

Except BlackVoid. BlackVoid goes last.

BlackVoid
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Post Post #2416  (isolation #786)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:39 am

Lol I was townreading you already but that is just classic.
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Post Post #2417  (isolation #787)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:40 am

Oh god damnit I just gave away one of my reads.
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Post Post #2418  (isolation #788)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:41 am

THAT WAS FAKE. I'M NOT REALLY TOWNREADING WHYMAFIA HE IS DEFO SCUMS OR WHO KNOWS WHAT

WhyMafia, guess my reads please! That's what we're doing right now and you're up.
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Post Post #2420  (isolation #789)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:53 am

Ari!!!!!!!!

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

ALL MY FRIENDS ARE COMING TO PLAY WITH ME!
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Post Post #2426  (isolation #790)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:55 pm

WhyMafia you're supposed to guess my readslist >:[
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Post Post #2429  (isolation #791)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:31 pm

In post 2427, BlackVoid wrote:I actually think looking at the nancy "mislynch" wagon would be more informative. To see who pushed her for bad reasons so I'll go over that once I'm done looking at Pine/Drixx interactions.

I have already done this and given the answer :P
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Post Post #2430  (isolation #792)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:37 pm

BlackVoid it's like you don't even read my posts ;)
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Post Post #2432  (isolation #793)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:50 pm

That's irrelevant. Just have a try so the next person can go. You're not going to be lynched if you guess wrong.
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Post Post #2437  (isolation #794)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:02 pm

WhyMafia do you realize that Loopdan and Aslan occupy the same slot?
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Post Post #2438  (isolation #795)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:02 pm

Noodle is up next.
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Post Post #2440  (isolation #796)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:03 pm

@Aslan that isn't his read on you he's guessing my reads....
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Post Post #2441  (isolation #797)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:05 pm

In post 2439, BlackVoid wrote:I have a tough time seeing Loopdan as scum. What I said in and still applies.
Spoiler:
In post 1099, BlackVoid wrote:Him trying to get you and Pine to read each other also felt town motivated to me because observing how two people who are friends interact with each other is pretty good way to get reads. For example, when I was reading Pine's posts to you, it felt like he was going out of his way to appease you so I concluded that he was likely scum and you were likely town. I didn't agree with Loopdan's conclusion that you were both scum but I could see his "sorting you two through how you talk to each other" a good approach for him to take.
In post 1307, BlackVoid wrote:I'm really not seeing the scumread on Loopdan. I looked over his ISO multiple times now. If Pine is town, I suppose he could have been pushing a mislynch but attacking the IC and the most active player in the game seems like an odd strategy for scum to take especially for a low-content player like Loopdan.

His entrance in is fairly pro-town both in objectives as well as tone. Pushing the BP-claim strategy as hard as he did in also feels genuine. It didn't seem like he was using it as an excuse for lack of content and he was in fact making himself the center of attention by taking such a hard stance on it which he justifies in as getting it over with so we can move on. I think the rationale that scum in his previous game decided to oppose the strategy was a good one too. Looking over the game he's referring to (Newbie 1781), one of the scum (rb) posts reasoning that's pretty much exactly similar to nancy's reasoning here. So, I perfectly understand why Loopdan went after nancy. The vote on Srceen in and reasoning in flows consistently with the rest of his thoughts too. I liked in light of his later comments about reading people who know each other. Have a tough time seeing coming from scum. I don't really understand the vote on Pine in but I can see why he'd be okay with a nancy lynch given his previous comments and experience with rb. Can also see why he'd read TesXX as "screaming town" in given early posts of TesXX pushing the BP-claim strat along with him. Less sure on Noodle but I can understand that read too. I thought was a very good observation. Moving back to Drixx after nancy claim makes sense with his previous reads and doesn't feel like he knows too much and telling nancy to stop the conf-bias in and also feels like annoyed town. Possibly the only concern I'd have is the low activity but given he was legitimately busy and actually replaced out, that's a non-issue.

All in all, I'm pretty confident Loopdan-slot/Alisae is town. Alisae has the "chatroom-type" playstyle as both alignments that's hard for me to read but there's a lot I'd bet on Loopdan being town. If anyone disagrees with me here, please explain why. I'm especially looking at nancy, you seem intent on getting me to track Alisae but I'm positive he's town and if I'm wrong, then show me where I'm going wrong because I'm missing it entirely.

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Post Post #2442  (isolation #798)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:06 pm

Kill me now.
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Post Post #2446  (isolation #799)  » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:22 pm

Did you just.. say.. that Loopdan was.. one of the towniest slots in the game....?

I.... have no words.
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