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yeah, what?In post 1337, Transcend wrote:
"what"In post 1327, Titus wrote:
Jj fire bella tbIn post 1326, Firebringer wrote:Titus who is scum
If wrong there dunn but unlikely
Weirdly, dunn is in my 'could well be scum' pile too, but...what?- Bellaphant
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In post 1470, Transcend wrote:1448 was kinda scummy to me because it kinda looks like you were trying to get jj back on the titus train with that post.
also i kinda agree with titus' point on you hat you didn't really give your 2c on thinkbig and then just voted the counterwagon without much to say.
iono maybe i just need sleep
no, it was part of a thought process i was having - what does scum!titus get from acting this weirdly - scum reading me when i'm townread, etc. your answer started to be helpful, but then switched to 'well maybe she is this bad'. I did want clarification.
I did talk about think big - i wasn't making much sense of it and i'm not sorting him today. I'm not sure why that's an issue? the wagons are shifting every three hours or so, i genuinely can't see why it's an issue?
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UNVOTE:
@gork, ali, trans - I'll go back and iso him after i've hung out with buddies tonight, but this morning, ironically, it all looked like noise.
Titus, the problem with slayers gambit is there's not always an easy way to tell 'jumped on me bc i was bad and they were scum' and 'jumped on me bc i was bad'.
Then again i haven't played with you much. I played with you while you were under an alt, i think, and got you mislynched.
@frog, you can be active tonight at least lemme read tb back when i'm not half asleep before you rush to judgement.
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@jj, eddie's responses to pressure were super towny and i also think their other head did some posting over night, which helped.
fine, im re-reading his iso now - i should be putting make up on.
The most important think I can see, other than ali's tone read, with TB, is frog's point about 'how did you town read me' which didn't follow through. I'm finding this iso difficult because all of the random ate, when at first it was so toneless.
oh god, the shit posting is forced, isn't it?
none of this makes sense, which is what I thought this morning. I guess, mr Frog, this is my issue - his iso is a mess.
p-edit - the frustration doesn't feel real though? a town!tb would push something else, not randomly through out appease-y town reads?
is he shit at the game though? frog's frustration seemed to suggest maybe yes, there was talk of throwing as a PR.
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In post 1686, jjh927 wrote:McMenno, while you're about-
Why do you townread Dunnstral, and when did you first pick up said read?
Dunn, you asked me how I was, and part of me thinks you are scum. I've always seen yo try hard as town before and i'm not getting that vibe - what's up?
i also am not impressed by anything this replacement has done.In post 1687, Alisae wrote:
I have not done ANYTHING AI in those 2 pages.In post 1666, Vecna wrote:Also, I have finished reading page 2, and Alisae is most definately scum.
VOTE: Alisae
This is complete bullshit. Your wording here implies that your scumread is super fucking heavy considering it's been 2 pages.
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okay <3In post 1856, Randomnamechange wrote:im going to catch up with the game today but once I'm done with that I will talk to you <3
Yeaaah I'm leaning that way too. I've also remembered the try-hard start with a d payer is duppin!In post 1859, Aelita wrote:
1. Dunnstral is scumIn post 1854, Bellaphant wrote:@menno, random, shiqf, ael -
Come tell me one thing about the game you are certain about, one thing you would like to be clearer on, and one question for me. Most of you are null as fuck, come talk to me <3
2. Why did lil' un turn traitor?
3. Why is the sky blue?
Who's the lil'un?
Chemicals? Ask Anti
i like this post, heartless is super townIn post 1875, Heartless wrote:Where we are on ThinkBig (Ali, this is mostly for you).
Antihero started out scumreading him because of the reads ThinkBig entered the game with. Yesterday, he asked me if I've ever played with him before to get meta on him. I told him about MathBlade's game and I alluded to him being lynchbaity. I'm definitely seeing some watermarks from that game like Post 925, bemoaning getting run up, Post 928, insisting he's town when called scum, and the replace out dance. There's also the fact he seems to have attracted a couple defenders, namely Transcend and Dunnstral, when if ThinkBig were scum I would think his team would just bus his scummy ass.
That said, ThinkBig's gameplay is bothersome and difficult to reconcile with him being town. Anti and I brainstormed last night for a while about what could explain the case of the dangling townreads. The best we could come up with was that he hadn't really been paying attention and he just reacted to real time events of the thread. That explanation strains plausibility.
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VOTE: dunn
I don't see you pushing anything, you ar getting into pointless back and forths with eddie and your scum list is gross.
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Answering questions as I see the
@FROG: you asked me about dunn's 'gross' scum list? it was ': heartless, eddiebyte, Titus'. Heartless had a very clear towny early game, they are trying to sort and their later interactions (especially the frustration with vecna) feel legimate. Eddie was an early (and easy) first wagon, who's posting had already massively improved by the time of this post. Titus was the only one in this list being scummy at the point, iirc, but we've talked through this slayer's gambit thing and it feels like an 'easy' choice?
They also aren't really backed up by anything.
Also, can someone I can actually talk to bond with me, if frogger is dumping me? Things I hate: larges, day 1s, shit posters. What am I doing here.
I am halfway caught up. I'm glad we're lynching dunn!scum, if my reading is correct.- Bellaphant
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I am convinced that at least two scum were on that wagon.In post 4782, Dunnstral wrote:
Agree; we should be looking at the lynchIn post 4775, Titus wrote:I kinda wanna back away from the role mechanics for a bit.
With his play that useless (only a bit worse than mine) it's competently inconceivable to me that scum didn't bus the fuck out of the slot.
Do you agree?
if you do.... how on earth are you using 'the lynch' to find scum?
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@dun, Nope, you claimed in the 25 pages between where I read, and where I posted, as i found a thing from frog to reply to. I re-read everything overnight,
anf iirc you were taling about titus?
You can't push me for not being here and not knowing what was going on, and then for vote parking at the same time.
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@dun, Nope, you claimed in the 25 pages between where I read, and where I posted, as i found a thing from frog to reply to. I re-read everything overnight,
anf iirc you were taling about titus?
You can't push me for not being here and not knowing what was going on, and then for vote parking at the same time.
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The JJ pushes are generally awful though and him being counter wagon to scum surely suggests town? Also there was an interesting early shifq push that fell apart, that I will be clearer on when not phone posting.
P-edit, this is kind of what I was saying about bussing but got told 'no' by giga and 'no effect you' from Dunn. At least Titus is considering shit.- Bellaphant
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....Yeah, that was where my notes about the early shiqf wagon come in. The conversation that came after it/around it is super interesting as well:
P55, trans votes shifq pretty randomly. By 56, so does fire, and so does frog because 'sheeping fire'. heart says shiqf is scum (doesn't vote) but says people won't go for it because it's easy. Jj then pipes up - why aren't we wagoning Eddie any more, Eddie's vote (possibly on shiqf) is bad, what is the case on shifq. ali tries to engage shiqf in a super towny way
Jj mentions going after random and is called out by trans for a lhf read.
Votes fl off shifq super quick - frog votes trans when he says frog is sheeping him on shiqf, then quickly unvotes.
This whole early wagon makes me consider I've been reading trans wrong at the end of the day. If jj flips scum, i can't see eddie ALSO being scum.
But I don't think jj is scum. he consistently tries to move the game forward and has responded well to pressure.- Bellaphant
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...look, i'd love to actually talk to you about shit, but your tunnel on me is boring and lazy. you are resorting to making shit up.In post 5119, Dunnstral wrote:In post 5059, Bellaphant wrote:At least Titus is considering shit.
She's considering jj scum over you so she's doing a good job in your eyes?
hey, earlier you said vecna should be better than this. so should you.
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@dunn, i'm not voting you? like i said, stop making shit up. Making shit up is a pretty good reason for me to vote you though, no?
@eddie, frog is occasionally pushing my 'omg, paranoia' buttons, but you are right about the emotion read. I genuinely believe he's trying to sort the game, but I think his reads are in flux right now? Like, the shiqf wagon stuff was in my notes to talk about, so i can see the thought process coming from town.
' like if we stuck to our guns and stayed on jj yesterday we'd still be pushed on being off the wagon because of shiqf's role' talk to me about this?- Bellaphant
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Yeah, honestly, i'm in a much better placeIn post 5153, jjh927 wrote:Hmm, that's not a bad option. We can definitely talk and I might be able to pick up a read.
I can't talk much about whether i wanna be active or passive 'til night, though?
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[quote="In post 5495, randomidget"][/quote]
I spent most of yesterday thinking dunn was scum. The nightkill actions make much more sense if dunn i scum - why isn't he dead? also, since today he's literally made shit up about me, and when i got defended implied frog was scum, was a completely fabricated read.
Early yesterday, eddie was scum. He towned it up under pressure and did a really good analysis of his wagon. a few things really worry me about him, but he's the only one in my scum!pile that's engaging with me clearly, so it's making me hesitant. I can go int pingy things about eddie more if you want?- Bellaphant
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