Mini 1895: Shaziro Mafia - GAME OVER

Titus · Post Post #1853 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:29 am

Oh we started... sorry

Titus · Post Post #1857 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:32 am

In post 1721, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:Oh so titus is here nvm. I hope she says something soon.

Hi. I think town should sheep you.

Titus · Post Post #1867 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:29 am

In post 1864, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1857, Titus wrote:Hi. I think town should sheep you.
btw this is bullshit and I seriously don't any town player would encourage bad play like this.

just cause iaws is essentially cleared town, doesn't mean that his reads are 100%

Everyone should be scum hunting

What do you think of iaws's reads?

Titus · Post Post #1869 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:48 am

In post 1868, Oneironaut wrote:@Titus:
How much of the thread have you read, and what are your thoughts on the game so far?

Sheep iaws. I generally do not read on subbing in.

Titus · Post Post #1870 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:49 am

What claims are out?

Titus · Post Post #1877 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:36 am

In post 1873, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:
In post 1785, Oneironaut wrote:It would be unwise for scum to avoid NKing me, unless they think they can get me lynched.
This might be the dumbest post I've seen ever. We might need to lynch him just for this post.

VOTE: one

Titus · Post Post #1879 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:48 am

In post 1878, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:Huh. you took sheep to a literal level

Baaaaaaa

Titus · Post Post #1881 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:45 pm

Hey Math, nobody died. Were u up to no good?

Titus · Post Post #1938 (isolation #8) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:35 am

In post 1932, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1923, implosion wrote:mathblade i feel like every post you've quoted from me has several possible interpretations and in each case you've listed the worst possible interpretation.
this response feels weird. It may be because I don't know how something could have several possible interpretations.

Now i know why you drive me up a wall.

If you serve on a jury, please listen to the instructions.

Titus · Post Post #1939 (isolation #9) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:36 am

In post 1937, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1928, TwoFace wrote:I've had that nagging feeling imp could be scum but one needs rope first
Does it matter which scum we get first if both are scum?

Cuz reasons. IWAS is near conftown.

Titus · Post Post #1942 (isolation #10) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:38 am

In post 1941, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1931, TwoFace wrote:@math

Thoughts on horror/Titus slot
Town so far in reading. Her insistence on one scumread over another boggles me. If she doesn't want to say she says "Because Star Wars" here she says "Because Reasons"

Because Star Wars too. :-p

Titus · Post Post #1945 (isolation #11) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:41 am

In post 1943, MathBlade wrote:Nah you don't get to retroactively do shit like that. FoS Titus. Gonna keep reading now.

Does shit retroactively, particularly on day 2.

Happy scum day Shiro. Join us for COOKIES!

Titus · Post Post #1951 (isolation #12) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:52 am

In post 1948, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1938, Titus wrote:
In post 1932, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1923, implosion wrote:mathblade i feel like every post you've quoted from me has several possible interpretations and in each case you've listed the worst possible interpretation.
this response feels weird. It may be because I don't know how something could have several possible interpretations.
Now i know why you drive me up a wall.

If you serve on a jury, please listen to the instructions.
I've served on a jury actually. That is actually easier than a game of mafia. I don't understand how any statement could be interpreted 7 different ways.

In this game I would think 2 different ways. a townie way or a non townie way

Lol. Try being the lawyer.

I had a case once where the jury told me that the client was covering for a guy. We had the real driver testify, and she was a woman.

People are wierd.

Titus · Post Post #1955 (isolation #13) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:07 am

Horror was confident in his read. :-p

Titus · Post Post #1958 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:27 am

Did i say TR? Nope. Confident in his PL read.

Anything else ask horror lol.

Titus · Post Post #1973 (isolation #15) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:13 am

Hey, how about a wall catch up? Ty.

Titus · Post Post #1977 (isolation #16) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:20 am

In post 1975, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1973, Titus wrote:Hey, how about a wall catch up? Ty.
yeah good idea, when are you going to start doing one?

don't give me this " I don't read" bullshit. read or replace out

No.

Titus · Post Post #1978 (isolation #17) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:20 am

I have read enough to play my role appropriately.

Titus · Post Post #1985 (isolation #18) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:24 am

In post 1981, TwoFace wrote:
Mod i would like to request a force replacement of Titus for refusal to play the game

I have. I am. I am making optimal moves based on what I know. Sheep iaws.

Titus · Post Post #1989 (isolation #19) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:27 am

In post 1987, TwoFace wrote:if you don't read the game, you don't know what is going on and thus can't play properly. so no she is not playing the game

p.edit - no you haven't, no you aren't

I know what is going on. You're annoyed at me. What happened 100 pages ago isn't relevant. Sheep iaws is relevant.

Titus · Post Post #1993 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:29 am

In post 1990, TwoFace wrote:VOTE: titus

p.edit because I really think you are misreading that statement. I have done things like that before and people have accused me of scum slipping. I really believe you are wrong with regards to that one point, but let's lynch titus

Stop gamethrowing tyvm. Don't get pissed that I need less than 30 seconds to find out what's going on here.

No vca presented. Why? Cop guilty on scum lynch.

No dead cop. Doc healed him. Sheep cop.

Did i miss anything else?

Titus · Post Post #1994 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:30 am

No. Ok. Let's follow the cop now.

Titus · Post Post #1997 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:32 am

In post 1995, TwoFace wrote:so mafia RB'd and killed the cop? lol see that is why you need to read the game, because no way mafia does that

we are lynching you now.

Yup. They did.

Keep trying.

Titus · Post Post #2000 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:32 am

In post 1996, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1993, Titus wrote:
In post 1990, TwoFace wrote:VOTE: titus

p.edit because I really think you are misreading that statement. I have done things like that before and people have accused me of scum slipping. I really believe you are wrong with regards to that one point, but let's lynch titus
Stop gamethrowing tyvm. Don't get pissed that I need less than 30 seconds to find out what's going on here.

No vca presented. Why? Cop guilty on scum lynch.

No dead cop. Doc healed him. Sheep cop.

Did i miss anything else?
Why are you assuming doc here? jK roleblocker no kill?

Lots of different possibilities here.

Hmmmmmmmm whyyyyy would i doooo such a thing....

Titus · Post Post #2002 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:34 am

I am off to work. Stop trying to fit a narrative.

Titus · Post Post #2013 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:33 am

Maybe your definition of "not playing" needs to change. Some people should coast. Some shouldn't. Some act like they should to take night fire. Some over post.

You should just sub out now, because I am not reading. I found out what I needed. Implosion is lock town. IAWS is sheepable. TwoFace is lock town.

Now we lynch the roleblocker and the game is over.

Titus · Post Post #2017 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:40 am

In post 2015, TwoFace wrote:If you are town replace out

Nah. Strategic replaceouts are banned. Purpose to everything, method to my madness. You can either figure it out or accept you aren't the one scumhunting my posts and asking why.

Titus · Post Post #2019 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:41 am

In post 2016, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2015, TwoFace wrote:If you are town replace out
Titus Two Face both of you stop this shit:

Hey, I am fine if he accepts who I am but he's not dictating how I play and I am not getting lynched. So yeah. It's nothing I need to stop.

Titus · Post Post #2023 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:49 am

TwoFace is gamethrowing and that's just shit Implosion. Just vote one with me. We'll find the scum without him.

Then, report his ass for gamethrowing for voting a slot he knows to be town.

Titus · Post Post #2029 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:52 am

In post 2025, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2022, implosion wrote:Twoface have you ever stopped, looked in the mirror, considered the fact that you have decided to blacklist almost everyone in this game and thought to yourself "hm, maybe my attitude is part of the problem, maybe not the whole problem, but part of it"

You should try it, it's quite the cathartic experience.
Actually Impoetic has done more scumhunting than you, trying to get us too artificially get along.

Now, have you considered why I am the way I am?

Have you ever considered that attacking TwoFace doesn't address the poke I gave you?

Have you ever considered while I have TwoFace's attitude it doesn't change what alignment anyone is?

Like if you want to help stop contributing to the problem and scumhunt. Oh wait you can't. Carry on then.

Titus · Post Post #2034 (isolation #30) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:58 am

In post 2024, implosion wrote:Uh

How does he know your slot to be town precisely?

Because TwoFace and I have fought like this before, he tred me before and is going off policy that town have to read through the garbage he put out when iaws is carrying this game. He talks to me as if I am town. He knows I am town.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:04 am

In post 2037, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2022, implosion wrote:Twoface have you ever stopped, looked in the mirror, considered the fact that you have decided to blacklist almost everyone in this game and thought to yourself "hm, maybe my attitude is part of the problem, maybe not the whole problem, but part of it"

You should try it, it's quite the cathartic experience.
Look I'm very simple. All players, but especially the town players have an obligation to the game mod and site creators to be active and play the game. Playing the game includes posting as often as you can and to make a good amount of these posts somewhat game relevant. These posts should be doing something to progress the game. Asking questions, having game related conversations, trying to determine motive, looking at interactions, etc.

If a player doesn't do that they are scummy. Town should not have issues doing this. Scum I can see having issues, especially inexperienced scum.

A replacement has to respect the game enough that if they agree to replace, they agree to read the game and attempt to figure things out. Blindly sheeping another player isn't acceptable cause that other player isn't guaranteed to have accurate reads so by sheeping them you aren't living up to the obligation of the game.

So if other players don't play like this, that isn't an issue with me. This is an issue with the people who have allowed the bar to be lowered. Back in the day that's not how townies acted. Somewhere along the line townies started dumbing down their town play so they could get away with the same stuff as scum.

I'm old school and I play with the old school mentality. If you aren't doing what I perceive as town things, you are scum. If you actually aren't scum you should be ashamed of yourself and strive to do better so you don't let your teammates down in the future.

It's really that simple for me. Hate me or love me but that's me.

Read: I have no fault for lynching town because town has to do what I want. So I can gamethrow.

Come on TwoFace. You're making the optimal thing to lie or claim.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:07 am

In post 2040, MathBlade wrote:Titus please stop using the word gamethrow when someone who used to townread you scumreads you. It is ridiculous. At this point if someone ever gamethrew and you caught them I simply wouldn't believe you.

Well it's not a subjective thing. Voting known town = gamethrow unless they will fuck lylo.

Ensuring that town must be lynched or lie or claim is bad result. Dictating play is artificial and fake.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:13 am

Nah he doesn't. If he SRed me, he wouldn't be pissed.

You are the person who cried scumslip.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:13 am

My options are either outright lie or claim Math as town.

You know I only read as town in one instance.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:14 am

In post 2045, TwoFace wrote:Last I checked I'm not voting known town. Im voting a slot who I've basically scum read since day 1

The only way you could convince me you were town would to read all 82 pages. Give me your top 2/3 scum reads and make a case for one or all of them.

If you can't do that, you are scum

Bullshit. You know I am town otherwise this would not be a thing.

Fine I pick lie.

My two scumreads are IAWS's because he said so.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:15 am

Have I read enough?

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:19 am

In post 2050, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2046, Titus wrote:My options are either outright lie or claim Math as town.

You know I only read as town in one instance.
I am Town. Not a bad claim to make.

Man I wish Titus would flip red already.

Smart ass grammarian. I forgot commas on your name.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:22 am

In post 2051, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2047, Titus wrote:Bullshit. You know I am town otherwise this would not be a thing.
Sure it would. I expect all players regardless of alignment to play this way. I don't know your alignment but I don't want to risk a possible mislynch because you decided to phone it in. Math said you do this as both alignments so there is a possibility you are town here. Granted your predecessor was a scum read though so I'm pretty sure at this point you will flip scum. I really don't believe
Lyou as town would intentionally play this bad.

Read evey game I sub into. I don't read as a matter of policy AND I am better at late game than most. If your concern is me phoning it in, say that. I won't phone it in. I just won't read your farts and tell you how they don't stink. I read just enough to do my role. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:22 am

In post 2053, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2052, Titus wrote:
In post 2050, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2046, Titus wrote:My options are either outright lie or claim ,Math, as town.

You know I only read as town in one instance.
I am Town. Not a bad claim to make.

Man I wish Titus would flip red already.
Smart ass grammarian. I forgot commas on your name.
I am serious. Please EBWOP.

Done. Jeez.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:26 am

Great. Sohow many town have to agree to lynch scum?

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:27 am

In post 2059, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2058, TwoFace wrote:I'm done here. Take your game throwing accusations and shove em cause I am definitely not game throwing. If you are town though you definitely are
Titus isn't either both of you can it. If she is scum she is sowing discord by continuing to fight instead of addressing things.

If she is Town (doubtful) then she is playing how she feels she can get reads.

Again both of you knock it off.

No. I just know twoface is being a shitter and throwing a tantrum, just like you.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:30 am

There's three slots available for scums. We have enough mislynches to get it done. One, Kop, and Wheme are the scums but unless twoface and Math get their heads out of the shitter, this fame is lost.

I didn't have to read to determine that, nor should I TwoFace. I am sorry not sorry about working smarter than you.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:31 am

In post 2063, MathBlade wrote:Oh honey I am not throwing a tantrum I am trying to get my scumread lynched.

Oh yes you are. You cry SCUMSLIP every game when people tell you that you're wrong. Every single game.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:35 am

In post 2066, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2065, Titus wrote:
In post 2063, MathBlade wrote:Oh honey I am not throwing a tantrum I am trying to get my scumread lynched.
Oh yes you are. You cry SCUMSLIP every game when people tell you that you're wrong. Every single game.
A> I pointed out scumslip before anyone said I was wrong.
B> Nearly half have been right.
C> I don't retroactively claim it. When I say it I believe it.

Nah you go searching.

Sorry, but what's your so called slip? That I knew that IAWS was doc healed. Not even scum would know that. I did slip but your insistence on it has forced my claim.

Now, we have to lynch the rb today because you couldn't think and supported teoface's bullshit.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:36 am

Just to be clear, I am the doctor and I read just enough to heal the obvious target and that's all I read as the doctor

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:37 am

You could probably tell because I didn't ask for claims like a dumbass.

Considering all town have to agree and twoface is hellbent on his tude, maybe you won't be.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:44 am

In post 2070, MathBlade wrote:That Horror knew CoolDog would flip Town. Are you even reading my posts ?

No. Math is the only one capable of having situational reads that a policy lynch can flip town. That's fucking arrogant and stupid. Implosion told you it was arrogant and stupid but he has to be my partner because you cannot be wrong.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:30 am

Mod: Replace me.

Replacement. Scum shot IAWS for a reason. Town cannot win with TwoFace and Math in this and I am not wasting 5 hours of my time reading circular farts or debating the semantics of words with Math.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:36 am

If one of you chucklefucks was in the game, I could deal with it, but both. No.

This game is gift wrapped and you fuckers blow it.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:42 am

In post 2075, MathBlade wrote:Titus please rescind that because it sure as hell looks like a strategic replace out when I have caught you.

If this isn't the case then fucking work with me and make a case on someone.

My case is I am the fucking doctor.

Scum shot IAWS.

Therefore he's the threat to scums and following is better than anything anyone else says.

I am getting someone in this slot willing to waste 5 plus hours of their life reading shit because you cannot be reasoned with.

I value my time too much to read knowing my result is suboptimal to my night action.

That should stop Eddie from being dumb and town gets a shot.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:44 am

I mean TwoFace from being dumb.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:47 am

So it looks like TwoFace gets his way so that the rest of town has to put up with spam no one fucking cates about and be arrogant enough to do that because town cannot work around you both.

Take a short walk off a long pier.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:48 am

In post 2079, MathBlade wrote:.... I just don't believe this isn't strategic unless you give me something here Titus. I just can't.

It is ish. I am subbing out because I don't have the time TwoFace demands not to gamethrow and town cannot work around both you and him.

So I don't get to play.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:51 am

In post 2082, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2081, Titus wrote:
In post 2079, MathBlade wrote:.... I just don't believe this isn't strategic unless you give me something here Titus. I just can't.
It is ish. I am subbing out because I don't have the time TwoFace demands not to gamethrow and town cannot work around both you and him.

So I don't get to play.
No ish.

Titus that is against site rules. Whatever your alignment stay in and finish this shit off.

Report me or don't ever mention the word scumslip again and put up with me playing my way.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:53 am

You don't know how to listen.

You pull this scumslip shit and have NEVER EVER EVER been right or reasoned with. It's not fun to try.

I need the 3 remaining slots to posts to read them.

Either you let me do that or I go and you report me.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:54 am

In post 2085, TwoFace wrote:Scum aren't going to RB the person they NKd. They just aren't.

Fake claim is fake and obvious as fuck.

Shove off. You're getting your way.

They did and that's why I know the only thing to do is sheep him.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:55 am

In post 2088, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2086, Titus wrote:You don't know how to listen.

You pull this scumslip shit and have NEVER EVER EVER been right or reasoned with. It's not fun to try.

I need the 3 remaining slots to posts to read them.

Either you let me do that or I go and you report me.
I asked you to do that Titus.

Report me. I am done with you. You cannot listen.

Wait 1 year before playing with me.

Titus · Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:05 pm

In post 2091, MathBlade wrote:My vote ain't moving.

No shit because you'd argue with 10000000 people, scientific proof and common sense. You should not play this game. You and TwoFace belong in mafia jail.

Titus · Post Post #2117 (isolation #59) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 2115, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2110, MathBlade wrote:I have no doubt she is mad about our play.
She has no right to be mad at anyone's play.

And you both wonder why a lot of seasoned veterans cannot stand you both and people shit post. I have every right to be angry at you both for telling me how to play.

The difference is I am done holding Math's hand like they are 5 and having them still not get it.

TwoFace would be told off by competent town and listen but we need all town but one and there's two chucjlefucks.

Titus · Post Post #2130 (isolation #60) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:42 pm

@IAWS, Yeah, I am not rewarding TwoFace's juvenile fucking behavior by being suboptimal. I straight up refuse. I am not reading 75 pages of you basically having to lead Math and TwoFace by the nose to the point where EddieCane had to sub out.

Certain players basically throw a tantrum if players do not fit in their mold. I recommend you and Implosion sub out anyway. No one can win in a Mathblade and TwoFace lead town because Math will spam someone scum slipped and drive a player to shit post. Shit posting gets scumread by TwoFace because TwoFace cannot be bothered to improve his townplay.

This is 100% not the norm for this site. It is 100% the norm for my sibling. I would hate if you left because I am not allowed to be optimal.

@TwoFace, Amazingly, you actually hit the pool of viable scum on the head. Sorry not sorry I didn't need to read to do that.

Titus · Post Post #2131 (isolation #61) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:43 pm

If you need me, I will stay but I will not read.

Titus · Post Post #2134 (isolation #62) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:46 pm

I was asking IAWS Math. You in this game I want the opposite of what you want.

Titus · Post Post #2137 (isolation #63) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:48 pm

In post 2135, MathBlade wrote:If someone can explain to me how that isn't a slip convincingly and have Titus actually start giving reads then I'd reevaluate the slot. But right now I see no reads and a scumslip and a replace out request.

I have given a scum pool and a conftiwn. Fuck off on this not giving reads shit and listen.

Titus · Post Post #2139 (isolation #64) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:55 pm

In post 2138, TwoFace wrote:I don't remember a list of scum you gave...

One/wheme/kop

Titus · Post Post #2143 (isolation #65) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:58 pm

Then massclaim it math.

Then you'll see you are intolerable.

Titus · Post Post #2146 (isolation #66) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:00 pm

Iaws, do you want me to stay, yes or no?

Titus · Post Post #2148 (isolation #67) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:01 pm

Fuck it never mind. I want iaws to stay on this site.

Revoke sub out.

Titus · Post Post #2149 (isolation #68) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:01 pm

In post 2147, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2139, Titus wrote:
In post 2138, TwoFace wrote:I don't remember a list of scum you gave...
One/wheme/kop
So which of these 2 are most likely and why are they scum?

Your list is invalid without reasons

PoE. Bite me. I really love how intolerant you are.

Titus · Post Post #2158 (isolation #69) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:10 pm

In post 2156, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:2f did you not read my rant post?

Math I will soon.

Titus thanks for caring about me : )
While I disagree with not reading the game, you still seem like a nice person.

Thank you. I love newbies. I know my stance isn't popular but I play to my strengths. If I know you're town and scum are shooting you, you get your props.

@TwoFace, I hate your play but I wish you the best.

Titus · Post Post #2163 (isolation #70) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:18 pm

In post 2162, MathBlade wrote:...Damn it I'm trying to stop people shitting everywhere *sigh*

Fuck. :/

Look, set aside your egos and slips. It's not shitting to be frustrated with you. It just isn't.

Anyway, game night starting.

Titus · Post Post #2165 (isolation #71) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:33 pm

Happy cake day

Titus · Post Post #2205 (isolation #72) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:34 pm

In post 2200, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh wait. They can even without being the last one alive.
But my argument still stands though. Scum-titus can't kill the cop without being ded the very next day

I wish this implication was true, but it isn't unless someone has an inside track to the mafia rb.

Titus · Post Post #2207 (isolation #73) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:22 am

One, Whemestar, kop almost certainly

Titus · Post Post #2208 (isolation #74) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:23 am

In post 2202, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2200, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh wait. They can even without being the last one alive.
But my argument still stands though. Scum-titus can't kill the cop without being ded the very next day
Good point.

Why did you agree with this?

Titus · Post Post #2210 (isolation #75) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:41 am

In post 2209, MathBlade wrote:Because I find it more likely the cop checked an ascetic than was roleblocked. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than block and kill cop.

Why?

Titus · Post Post #2212 (isolation #76) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:46 am

In post 2211, MathBlade wrote:As scum you spin a story. You get people to believe it. I have to go to Shadowrun but if the cop dies tonight I agree with Guy's statement. I think you are inventing an RB here.

O.o, really inventing an rb? So that means whoever Guy checked is an unclaimed ascetic. That's a near automatic scum result, so why aren't you sheeping iaws? Then by flipping the scum ascetic in that pov, you'd have absolute proof.

If the slot iaws is not ascetic, absolute proof of a roleblocker exists.

Occam's razor says that there just is an rb with a cop/doctor and no cc for my doc claim, but you're filtering things through a Titus is scum perspective.

I am going to laugh out loud if IAWS checked you.

Titus · Post Post #2213 (isolation #77) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:47 am

*Guy checked = iaws

Titus · Post Post #2217 (isolation #78) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:09 am

@Math, they know now.

So if everyone fails to claim ascetic or IAWS check claims not ascetic, we can eliminate town!ascetic possibility no?

If that's the case, then either iaws check target is scum or there is a roleblocker.

Titus · Post Post #2222 (isolation #79) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:22 am

In post 2219, implosion wrote:i also just don't think the team is kop/oneironaut. I don't have a great reason for that.

i think it might be math/oneironaut. That's my best guess at this juncture i think. Pretty low confidence though. Still strongly prefer oneironaut first unless his claim is something pretty damn exciting.

Still think we should just massclaim given that we have 4 people (wheme/onei/iaws/titus) claiming/openly softclaiming to be PRs, plus fitz and GiF's neighbor statuses...

I don't see math being toxicly stubborn as scum.

I am on board for mass claim.

Titus · Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:06 am

In post 2225, Oneironaut wrote:What is ascetic?

@IAWS
Who are your top scum reads right now?

All actions but killing actions targeting the slot fail.

Titus · Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:07 am

In post 2224, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:If we're going to massclaim, should we choose the order of who claims?

Either you choose or popcorn (meaning pick highest suspect on list).

Titus · Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:22 am

In post 2232, GuyInFreezer wrote:Do we know if Titus is good at reading Math?

I am no better with Math than any other player.

Titus · Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:25 am

In post 2236, GuyInFreezer wrote:Aaaaaaaaaaaa

but I like sheeping that kind of reads

If Math keeps up the ascetic thing and doesn't vote for whomever IAWS checked, then they go down to need to die.

Titus · Post Post #2246 (isolation #84) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:52 pm

Math, let's try reality.

IAWS claimed blocked. He has no reason to lie.

Thus, there is an ascetic or roleblocker. You claim no roleblocker.

Therefore, there must be an ascetic. Furthermore that ascetic must be whomever IAWS checked.

Titus · Post Post #2252 (isolation #85) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:30 pm

Maybe TwoFace is ascetic and IAWS roleblocked? Unless someone claimed rb.

Titus · Post Post #2261 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:55 am

In post 2259, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:I think he just had a hardcore tunnelish sort of personality though.

This.

As for massclaim, you should vote one until he claims, given he is the most suspected by town. He then popcorns to someone else.

If no roleblocker claims, who you checked or who should have received fruit or the fruit vendor must be scum.

Titus · Post Post #2263 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:44 am

In post 2262, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2261, Titus wrote:
In post 2259, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:I think he just had a hardcore tunnelish sort of personality though.
This.

As for massclaim, you should vote one until he claims, given he is the most suspected by town. He then popcorns to someone else.

If no roleblocker claims, who you checked or who should have received fruit or the fruit vendor must be scum.
How about IAWS votes for who he wants? Since he is conf town instead of an opinion shoved Town his throat. When IAWS wants my opinion he'll ask.

He did ask for opinions, repeatedly. I gave him mine.

Math, are you scum here?

Titus · Post Post #2265 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:51 am

I believe he said TwoFace?

Titus · Post Post #2281 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:48 am

In post 2280, MathBlade wrote:Okay then. I think the plan should be you list everyone from scummiest to towniest in your eyes. Then have the scummiest people claim first so that way the scummiest people can't have anyone else's claim to fall back on.

It should be popcorn, not just the IC dictating imo but it is his choice. IC can just pick the first to popcorn.

Titus · Post Post #2282 (isolation #90) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:48 am

What are your reads?

Titus · Post Post #2285 (isolation #91) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:19 am

In post 2284, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2281, Titus wrote:
In post 2280, MathBlade wrote:Okay then. I think the plan should be you list everyone from scummiest to towniest in your eyes. Then have the scummiest people claim first so that way the scummiest people can't have anyone else's claim to fall back on.
It should be popcorn, not just the IC dictating imo but it is his choice. IC can just pick the first to popcorn.
I disagree with this. Popcorn means if scum get it they can dominate mass claim.

No. It means they have to popcorn to their top suspect left in the stack, leaving information. If they pick town, then town has the next pick so on and so forth. Why are you acting like you don't know how popcorn works?

Titus · Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:33 am

I just want to lynch you to gag you at this point.

Titus · Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:47 pm

I take back the don't play with me for one year Math but I am still disappointed in you.

Titus · Post Post #2307 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:14 am

In post 2304, MathBlade wrote:Feeling's mutual.

So you think I'm town now?

Would you feel that way if one flips scum, or if you picked upcrumbs?

Titus · Post Post #2313 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:27 am

In post 2311, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2307, Titus wrote:
In post 2304, MathBlade wrote:Feeling's mutual.
So you think I'm town now?

Would you feel that way if one flips scum, or if you picked upcrumbs?
No I don't. I am just disappointed in how you treated Two Face and me.

I think One slot has too much pressure to be scum. It doesn't make sense. About crumbs you have stated numerous times crumbing doc is a cardinal sin so if I found crumbs I would tunnel you like a rabid dog.

Right on the latter. Crumbs was a poor choice of words on my part. The listening though. I'll explain that later/from dead chat.

I treated twoface and you fine. TwoFace wanted to dictate how the game was played and threw a fit when I refused to comply.

Right now, you're resisting an idea merely because it's popular. That's as bad as sheeping solely because popular. Do the analysis.

Titus · Post Post #2324 (isolation #96) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:46 am

Oh not mafia, popcorn to your next biggest suspect

Titus · Post Post #2336 (isolation #97) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:21 am

I'd like to massclaim and choose between lynching him or Math.

Titus · Post Post #2339 (isolation #98) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:16 am

In post 2338, MathBlade wrote:Hell you even ignored my translation request. Wtf?

Not my job. If you don't try to understand him, you aren't trying to read him. If you get something wrong, I will tell you.

Titus · Post Post #2341 (isolation #99) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:03 am

In post 2340, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2339, Titus wrote:
In post 2338, MathBlade wrote:Hell you even ignored my translation request. Wtf?
Not my job. If you don't try to understand him, you aren't trying to read him. If you get something wrong, I will tell you.
Asking a shitposter a question only involves getting more shit.

I am admitting my flaw of not being able to read shitposting and asking for your help. Why won't you especially since you have called me out on not asking for it before?

Asking for help =/= blanket deference to an SR.

Titus · Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:24 am

In post 2342, MathBlade wrote:I am not deferring here. I am asking for your translation here. Huge difference. I want to see how you translate this and then compare it to your prior explanations.

Yeah, sure feels like you're trying to avoiding reading nm but whatever.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:35 am

In post 2381, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2380, GuyInFreezer wrote:In my mind rn

Do I be lazy and vote NM even though I don't really scumread that slot

> Yes
> No
According to Titus doc you do.
According to me, no.

I don't think you vote for someone you townread ever.

Not what he said. He could null read the slot.

What is your read on Not_mafia? Who do you want to lynch?

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:13 am

In post 2386, GuyInFreezer wrote:I've been really hoping to play the game by talking but at this rate I really gotta read the game do I

Why u do dis to me ppl

I am here now.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:14 am

In post 2387, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2346, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2345, GuyInFreezer wrote:What is this PoE?
Titus implosion top scum team.
Therefore everyone else is Town.

We've all claimed. No one else could heal IAWS.

It should be pretty common sense doc for town rb for scum.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:14 am

Plus fruit vendor. There's your balance.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:20 am

In post 2392, MathBlade wrote:And you're the roleblocker you're wanting a dead on focus for Not Mafia and not working with your townread of GiF who townreads not Mafia means you're not even following your own document of how to work with Town. You're not giving GiF what he needs.

Oh I am willing to lynch you for your ridiculousness too.

Disagreeing with GiF does not mean I am not working with him. He wants someone to talk to and I am here to do that.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:26 am

In post 2394, MathBlade wrote:In other words I don't agree lynch me.
You did the same shit in the Open Titus.
I don't agree with your reads I must be ridiculous policy me is your standard argument.
You being here isn't what GiF needs. You being here tunneling isn't what GiF needs.

What he needs is someone to explain why Not_Mafia is scum as they feel the lynch is lynchbait.

Now, you're putting words in his mouth. GiF can tell me what he needs.

I am not saying policy lynch for disagreement. I am saying you are likely scum if you don't follow your implications.
Cop, fv, scum rb isn't balanced and there is no other PR.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:36 am

In post 2395, Titus wrote:Now, you're putting words in his mouth. GiF can tell me what he needs.

Titus · Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:04 am

In post 2400, GuyInFreezer wrote:Apparently y'all are fighting over me now lol
I'll be back here in few hours cos I'm in my sister's concert now

Math and I will both be afk for IRL then, but if you could leave things we'll be back/maybe check in.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 4:23 am

I can see that.

Math's assertion is also wrong. Cop/Fruit vendor versus rb isn't a cleared newbie setup ever.

So yeah, Math is probably stubborn scum here trying to save Not_Mafia.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:13 am

In post 2415, implosion wrote:There's a mini normal that ended literally less than a week ago that had a mafia loud fruit vendor. 1900.

You might approve it. That might be true. I doubt it. But I can nearly guarantee the nrg would not.

And Math is intimately familiar with that game, given they were in day 1 and cast the wrong vote.

They were stubborn about their scumread and brought to lylo despite all the evidence being the opposite way.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:04 am

My sole reservation is how dead the game is.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 10:20 am

Mod: Can we get prods or is most of the game weekend VLA?

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 10:57 am

Reads please?

Can we lynch someone?

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:20 pm

In post 2435, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2434, implosion wrote:oh my god someone who might be active.

Current state of the game is we've massclaimed. Titus claims doc, IAWS is cop (who got a guilty on the now-dead traitor night one), and IAWS is also neighbors with GuyInFreezer (along with havingfitz, who is dead). WhemeStar is a fruit vendor, confirmedly. Everyone else is claiming VT. We also know mafia have a roleblocker, as both Wheme and IAWS have been blocked (it's possible that MathBlade will still want to argue that there's an ascetic but i don't think it's tenable).

There's a wagon on Not_Mafia for reasons I outlined here.

My personal reads are that that slot is scum with either MathBlade or your slot.

There are almost certainly 3 mafia members, including the traitor. 3:10 is standard in mini normals these days.
Thanks! That massclaim actually helps a ton with my reading. Rest assured, I will be very active until I'm dead. That's just how I do things.

Have you guys already analyzed the possibility that anybody was lying about their claim? If so, what were the results?

Also, am I understanding correctly that there are three neighbors?

We haven't finished the mass claim. Your slot has a possibility of being scum in my logic, so I suppose we dance. I saw Nacho liked you in the queue. Fair warning, I'm an oddball.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:43 pm

In post 2440, Hikari Link wrote:Sorry, "NAI."

Not Alignment Indicative

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:44 pm

In post 2438, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2437, Titus wrote:We haven't finished the mass claim. Your slot has a possibility of being scum in my logic, so I suppose we dance. I saw Nacho liked you in the queue. Fair warning, I'm an oddball.
The massclaim isn't done? Implosion said everybody else claimed VT. How many people haven't made a direct claim yet?

I think Math.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:45 pm

Can you focus on GiF? I'm pretty sure he's town but I have nagging doubts.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 7:55 pm

I think so. It's midnight though, so I apologize if wrong.

Are you headed to the CA meet? There's one coming up in a couple of months.

Titus · Mon May 01, 2017 8:36 pm

Well, Math please apologize if I live.

Good luck everyone. It's midnight.

Jo Dee Messina's Burn is an excellent motivational song.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:06 am

In post 2464, MathBlade wrote:
Titus

I scumread Titus from yesterday and IAWS dying over her is fishy as fuck.

No it isn't. Scum have an even night roleblocker. We lynched the odd night roleblocker.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:07 am

In post 2461, GuyInFreezer wrote:VOTE: Titus

Why are you voting me?

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:10 am

In post 2476, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2471, Hikari Link wrote:So how is this her fault, exactly? We still had a night with no death, which implies that she may very well be a doctor.

In post 2472, Titus wrote:
In post 2464, MathBlade wrote:
Titus

I scumread Titus from yesterday and IAWS dying over her is fishy as fuck.
No it isn't. Scum have an even night roleblocker. We lynched the odd night roleblocker.
Titus gambits.
Just because an odd one existed doesn't mean an even one does.

I find it much more likely with the claim not at l-1 Titus fake claimed doctor for the creds.

No one voted with you yesterday, indicating no one bought this argument. (Town power would be too low). Now you expect that players will buy the argument after it was proven that sheeping iaws leads to good results?

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:11 am

In post 2477, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2472, Titus wrote:
In post 2464, MathBlade wrote:
Titus

I scumread Titus from yesterday and IAWS dying over her is fishy as fuck.
No it isn't. Scum have an even night roleblocker. We lynched the odd night roleblocker.
Oh, now
that's
an interesting scenario. So, to clarify, your current claim is that you were blocked last night and you targeted IAWS?

Yes.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:31 am

In post 2481, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2478, Titus wrote:
In post 2476, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2471, Hikari Link wrote:So how is this her fault, exactly? We still had a night with no death, which implies that she may very well be a doctor.

In post 2472, Titus wrote:
In post 2464, MathBlade wrote:
Titus

I scumread Titus from yesterday and IAWS dying over her is fishy as fuck.
No it isn't. Scum have an even night roleblocker. We lynched the odd night roleblocker.
Titus gambits.
Just because an odd one existed doesn't mean an even one does.

I find it much more likely with the claim not at l-1 Titus fake claimed doctor for the creds.
No one voted with you yesterday, indicating no one bought this argument. (Town power would be too low). Now you expect that players will buy the argument after it was proven that sheeping iaws leads to good results?
I expect people to think radical concept.

Like I said before Titus gambits. Titus godfather and no kill is a possible scenario I would see balanced.

Godfathers are not allowed in a normal queue.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 4:40 am

Implosion, what do you think of GiFs naked vote?

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:03 am

In post 2486, implosion wrote:At the VERY LEAST, iaws death does not imply that she is scum because of her doc claim.

I'm pretty fucking sure it's mathblade. Titus should literally never be lynched in this situation.

GiF's naked vote on me doesn't bother you?

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:13 am

In post 2490, implosion wrote:GiF's naked vote makes perfect sense from town who hasn't read the game and has an immediate reaction to the death of "well the doc is fake then."
I expect him to unvote now that he knows that there's a confirmed mafia even-night roleblocker.

That was confirmed the moment that not_mafia was lynched. Are you supposing that GiF didn't even read the flips but is alert enough to know Math and I are fighting?

Would your opinion of Math change if you know Math has a history of having an opinion and seeking evidence to support it?

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:13 am

In post 2493, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2491, implosion wrote:other important note: wheme is basically conftown since he's role-confirmed and we know the last mafia's role.
You're on a roll here. Keep it up!

This is pretty duh.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:14 am

Hiraki Link, what are your reads?

You've been dishing out compliments but not really saying much.

We need just one more clear here and you're not inspiring.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:24 am

In post 2497, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2495, Titus wrote:
In post 2493, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2491, implosion wrote:other important note: wheme is basically conftown since he's role-confirmed and we know the last mafia's role.
You're on a roll here. Keep it up!
This is pretty duh.
As is that. It was an exclamation of joy. I really want somebody to figure this setup out so that I don't have to read 100 pages. I'm hoping that we can figure out a situation in which we mathematically can't lose.

Me too.

I don't need you to read all 100 pages. I actually don't read on subbing in at all unless I'm a doctor (or faking one), regardless of my alignment. I need you to just get into the game. Just jump in.

We have three players who likely will never lynch each other. Whemestar, myself, and implosion. We get a fourth and that's the game. We have one scum and one mislynch left. So I need you to obvtown.

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 5:24 am

In post 2499, Hikari Link wrote:Just to be clear, I hope you aren't assuming that Implosion is cleared. I believe that would be a mistake.

I am but why

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 2:06 pm

VOTE: Gif

Titus · Thu May 04, 2017 6:54 pm

In post 2512, MathBlade wrote:Hell Titus could even be that scum even night roleblocker. I don't like how people are going "Titus claimed doctor" == obvTown.

I claimed jailkeeper N1 in Shadowrun and freaking coasted. I don't see anyone actually sorting Titus and that is scary to me.

I built that setup. Just sayin'.

What does your analysis look like if I am town?

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 6:38 am

In post 2528, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2521, Titus wrote:
In post 2512, MathBlade wrote:Hell Titus could even be that scum even night roleblocker. I don't like how people are going "Titus claimed doctor" == obvTown.

I claimed jailkeeper N1 in Shadowrun and freaking coasted. I don't see anyone actually sorting Titus and that is scary to me.
I built that setup. Just sayin'.

What does your analysis look like if I am town?
GiF or Implosion or Kop scum. Kop most likely GiF Least likely.

Wheme is confTown and should be driving things but isn't posting jack.

What do you think of HL?

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 6:46 am

In post 2530, MathBlade wrote:The fact Hiraki hasn't hopped on a wagon quickly probably makes Hiraki Town.

Lol. Kop is scum. Hiraki town. See the problem?

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 10:07 am

In post 2532, MathBlade wrote:

Derp that means if you're Town which I doubt GiF or Implosion scum.

Then vote GIF.

I'm not voting implosion. You'd have to get every other townie to agree on Implosion and IAWS is also not voting implosion. He's off the table.

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 10:19 am

In post 2534, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2533, Titus wrote:
In post 2532, MathBlade wrote:

Derp that means if you're Town which I doubt GiF or Implosion scum.
Then vote GIF.

I'm not voting implosion. You'd have to get every other townie to agree on Implosion and IAWS is also not voting implosion. He's off the table.
IAWS is dead... Did you mean WhemeStar?

Nope. I'm just being a dumbass who is tired.

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 10:53 am

In post 2537, Hikari Link wrote:This is because targeting WhemeStar leaves the chance of him being protected

Chance? No. Doc heals conftown. I'm not dumb.

Titus · Fri May 05, 2017 10:53 am

In post 2536, MathBlade wrote:I'm fine voting you. Plenty of time left in the day for people to hunt. Why do you want things to go quickly? @Titus

Then hunt.

Titus · Sat May 06, 2017 5:02 am

VOTE: Math

I don't like how silent GiF is, but Math cannot be anywhere near lylo given they refuse to actually analyze players.

Titus · Sat May 06, 2017 4:36 pm

HL, I avoid reading as a matter of course.

We won here. Gg.

Titus · Sun May 07, 2017 3:47 am

In post 2588, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 2587, Titus wrote:HL, I avoid reading as a matter of course.

We won here. Gg.
You avoid reading in general? Or when you replace in? Or did you mean something else?

When replacing in.

Titus · Sun May 07, 2017 4:17 am

In post 2599, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2592, Hikari Link wrote:Out of curiosity, what were you thinking trying to get us to lynch Titus? Why go after confirmed town?
I was going for derp town cred and as Town I attack Titus every game.

Generally she scumreads me every game and most games is wrong.

If I didn't attack Titus and bussed she would claim "scum meta".
If I didn't bus here I have a chance of her going "Civ Mafia"

I needed Titus not in control of the game.

Then why not shoot me? I was actually the least far in solving it. You were an annoyance lynch. GiF was my scumread. I was at 3 players needing to be dead for two lynches.

Titus · Sun May 07, 2017 4:21 am

In post 2601, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2600, Titus wrote:
In post 2599, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2592, Hikari Link wrote:Out of curiosity, what were you thinking trying to get us to lynch Titus? Why go after confirmed town?
I was going for derp town cred and as Town I attack Titus every game.

Generally she scumreads me every game and most games is wrong.

If I didn't attack Titus and bussed she would claim "scum meta".
If I didn't bus here I have a chance of her going "Civ Mafia"

I needed Titus not in control of the game.
Then why not shoot me? I was actually the least far in solving it. You were an annoyance lynch. GiF was my scumread. I was at 3 players needing to be dead for two lynches.
Because cop could get a guilty and ruin it. Had to kill the cop while I could.

Why not just go ok, Titus is town, imma reset and just sheep onto GiF/Hiraki.