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[Nero Cain]

if there's an SK I'd put some money on Keyser since he was the one that argued this was 4 mafia + sk.

[zakk]

Wouldn't that be completely counter-productive to his win on if he were an SK though?

And anyway, how would you know there was an SK until it flipped?

i.e. Bad post all around, just meant to throw shade on Keyser Soze.

You've supposedly thought he was scum since post #424 ... so is this a) confbias? b) deliberately throwing circumstantial shade?

You choose.

[zakk]

Wincon*

[zakk]

Actually, looking at the vote counts, you have spent more time voting confirmed town (not even incl. me!) then you have voting Keyser.

Soooooooooooooo

[zakk]

VOTE: Ari

scum.

Only this post and a few others are stopping me from outright thinking you are scum again

[Nero Cain]

I mean, Key is all like "oh hey guys, set up spec: there's 4 mafia and an sk." Why would..anyone even think there was an SK in this setup until the second unexplained kill? Why is that not suspicious to you?

[Set-up spec: there could be up to 5 scum in this set-up. Unless it's 4 groupscum + 1 Serial Killer.]

Also Creature is already a "fake"claimed SK turned town.

[Creature]

Keyser's setup spec makes me wonder...

[Nero Cain]

STOP THAT! You can't wonder or be suspicious of things b/c according to Zakk you have to be scum that's throwing shade.

[zakk]

I still think at least one of you two is scum.

[Nero Cain]

Zakk you are the SK that knows I'm wrong about Key right?

[zakk]

No, it's just stupid to say that an SK would suggest the existence of an SK, especially before there was an extra kill. That'd be a huge scumslip which I hiiiiiighly doubt an SK would make

[zakk]

[Set-up spec: there could be up to 5 scum in this set-up. Unless it's 4 groupscum + 1 Serial Killer.]

I did not take it as serious roleclaim (in theory, now a town-day vig?).
Have you ever seen a SK change alignment during the day-phase/night-phase?

I did not take it as serious roleclaim (in theory, now a town-day vig?).
Have you ever seen a SK change alignment during the day-phase/night-phase?

*town night-vig

This is what keyser said.

[zakk]

That was looong before the end of D1, perfectly reasonable setup spec, and you're painting it badly because he mentions the possibility of a serial killer as an alternative to 5 group scum.

Two questions:
-Is that *not* reasonable speculation?
-Is it *more* or *less* likely that an actual SK would make this speculation?

[zakk]

[Set-up spec: there could be up to 5 scum in this set-up. Unless it's 4 groupscum + 1 Serial Killer.]

That's what I said in the Abnegation topic as well... 21 person games usually just have five groupscum ime. I didn't really consider a serial killer at the time... it's quite possible but I think it would be more likely there are five factions and five scum though. One scum per faction just seems toooo neatly organized to pass up, from a setup design / balance perspective (at least if it were me). Either way the # of kills per night will be telling about an SK (or vig) but as for the rest of it, I think one large group faction makes sense both balance-wise and flavor-wise, compared to multiple smaller groups.

I remember Keyser's post because I responded to it. Here is my post again and I stand by it.

I think 14-5-1 is stacked against town a little much.
But the 15-4-1 could be possible, or maybe it is 15-5, with a vig (or 1-shot vig) to account for an extra kill last night. Also a factional vig serum could up the kill count on one night.

Speaking of which: What serums have been used so far?

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser's setup spec makes me wonder...

Setup speculation is null alignment indicative.
Do not let the desperate scum agenda distract us from the task at hand.
Lynching GUILTY mafia.

[Transcend]

Can i be the ic that prodges til i get nked, or can i help out

[Nero Cain]

Can i be the ic that prodges til i get nked

, or can i help out

[Transcend]

Transcend is scum

L8z

VOTE: ircher

[momo]

Nice one Transcend. Yup everyone in my pt knows I wanted Ircher gone.

[Transcend]

Moomoo

[momo]

Traaaansceend

[rb]

Shos has an inno on him btw, happened in da hood. Nero Cain
+ Zakk can verify so yeah, shos is not getting lynched regaedless of Ircher's flip

[rb]

Ircher is so cute when he's caught scum tho

[Ircher]

Nice, I've been hammered.

[Ircher]

Gonna say that regardless of what I flip, I think an SK is likely, and I wouldn't be surprised if Keyser is the SK considering how little he has done this game compared to usual.