Open 680.1 C9++ | Endgame

[Brian Skies]

If I wanted credit, I wouldn't have hammered and said "I don't have a reason."

[Green Crayons]

Mhm. Mhm.

[Brian Skies]

W/e. Talking to you two is like talking to two arrogant pricks.

[FireScreamer]

Says the person who thinks they are somehow above suspicion after that hammer.

[Green Crayons]

lol

Not undeserved, but coming from left field in this game.

[FireScreamer]

Going to wait for A50, Comm, Dave and FB to vote before I do

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: Almost50

Also, what happened to the Rory lynch for today?

[Aristophanes]

Searching for a replacement for Brian Skies

[Narna]

On the count of three, 1, 2, 3, say it with me, TACTICOOL REPLACE OUT

[Titus]

Guys Brian slot is town and was town. He just wanted to end the day.

VOTE: davesaz

[Narna]

GE was caught on the basis of him avoiding the Davey wagon, so I'm more interested in his lynch. the qt cloud is still suspicious thoug/.

[Narna]

Guys Brian slot is town and was town. He just wanted to end the day.

VOTE: davesaz

idk, his play around the Gamma wagon is in the sweetspot of avoiding, but not avoiding, which is a scum position, if that make sense.

[RoryMK]

VOTE: Comm

I have reasons in my notes which I will post later.

[Green Crayons]

Guys Brian slot is town and was town. He just wanted to end the day.

His blow up over being called the least suspicious person in today's lynch pool is more suspicious than his treatment of Gamma.

Overly sensitive of suspicions, after a two-real-life-days to cool down from previous game day, is suspicious. Especially after I thought it was pretty obvious that I was town reading him and had been sheeping his Rory suspicions.

[FireScreamer]

Guys Brian slot is town and was town. He just wanted to end the day.

VOTE: davesaz

His reaction to his hammer being questioned yesterday and his reaction to someone even wanting him in the discussion today doesn't make sense to me from a town Brian standpoint.

[davesaz]

It's a weird work week. We have an executive visiting so the dogs and ponies are running rampant.

Scum can and do drive wagons on partners. They get credit when their partner flips, whether by that lynch or later. It may make a person more likely to be town because driving a lynch on a partner is so rare, but it does not make someone confirmed. I have a strong philosophical objection to using the term confirmed on anything other than mod-provided information.

Gonna need time to reread things which will have to wait for work stuff. I still have Titus as scum but it's not quite enough to pull the trigger given she has support from some townreads. Part of the research is to see what the Titus supporters said about GE and what they did.

[Titus]

Ok, Davesaz's reads are more about getting me lynched than finding scum at this point.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Almost50

Sure, we can play that game. At least for the time being.

VOTE: Brian Skies

[CommKnight]

Did alchemist crumb and I missed it?

I seen nothing either. I assumed Alchemist was town, but bloody hell, maybe we shouldn't have outed our TRs on him. Because I think a major factor was that pretty much everyone town-read Alchemist.

So that five can tear each other apart for a couple days. I'm conf not mafia so while I have strong opinion on who and who isn't guilty in that pool I'd like to see the pool try and sort itself.

Also, no you aren't confirmed town. Hell, by your own admission you aren't confirmed town. Since you admitted you'd bus as scum you meta'd yourself into that unconfirmed position.

Also LOL at Rory and Umlaut. Speaking of bussing above, check last game. I wasn't afraid to go after either of my scum buddies. In fact I recall willing to trade one for GC by trying to connect the two. I legit TR'd a scummy. I'm not perfect and even my previous games has me TR'ing one scummy usually out of a 3-man team.

But still. thanks for lynching that one town, I wouldn't have seen through him until MYLO/LYLO (and even then iffy).

Now then onto checking the set-up again. The first three are now off the list since mafia roleblocker has flipped.

TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker

TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

So for now going to assume there's no SK in this set-up.

TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker - Needs 1 letter (If we have Masons, this set-up is gone)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather - Needs 3 letters
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather - Needs 5 letters. (This set-up is unlikely due to low probability of rolling 0 T's).

What I'm digging at above, is assuming there's masons, MM, that means there MUST be another town PR because we need odd number of letters to get whatever set-up we're in. Again, I'd cross out 0 Ts due to the 2-5 Ts being the most likely and if we do have a mason duo, we have really one letter left outside the mason. (Meaning whoever is 1-shot/doctor needs to try and avoid claiming so that he can operate).

So set-up for now is assuming this CCMM?TT or CC*??TT (assuming FS PR claim is true but we're wrong on masons). Either way, we're probably looking for a godfather and while I hate that alchemist is dead, his role might actually spell the end for mafia when massclaim time comes (probably tomorrow). So Alchemist could only find one more scum by his role, but with his flip, it digs scum into a tighter hole.

With set-up out of the way (and I think we found which set-up this is), I'll make a separate post with my reads updated.

[Almost50]

Guys Brian slot is town and was town. He just wanted to end the day.

VOTE: davesaz

If you say so.

VOTE: davesaz

[FireScreamer]

The dave tunnel is strong

[FireScreamer]

A50 if you don't take ownership of your own vote it is going to end badly for you.

[CommKnight]

Gamma Emerald

(7):

RoryMK

,

Alchemist21

,

Narna

,

FireScreamer

,

Titus

,

Green Crayons

,

Brian Skies

-- LYNCH!!!

Titus

(4):

Almost50

,

Umlaut

,

davesaz

,

CommKnight

davesaz

(1):

Gamma Emerald

Commknight

(1):

Firebringer

So Narna and Rory were early on Gamma. I'll for now say that they are at the very least Neutral-town reads.

Titus was a counter-wagon and daves was voted by confirmed scum. So I'll slot them in town-leans.

I still town-read A50, his early claim also says that he's trying to give town all he knows.

Green Crayons I still got a town-lean on and Brian Skies is neutral.

FireScreamer is neutral because he is so full of himself that he tried to clear himself as "confirmed town" when he even stated before that he'd not be afraid of bussing as scum. That is contradiction of each other. If he toned it down and didn't admit to bussing when scum, I'd say town. But neutral at best at this point.

But since FS is claimed to be a PR (still not hard claimed), I'd say for me that leaves the pool at: Brian Skies, Umlaut and Firebringer for today.

VOTE: Umlaut - You're the odd one out.

Also I will say this, I doubt both remaining scum were on the same wagon together. Which means that if we nail one on either wagon, it means that FB and the other wagon more than likely has the final scum in it.

[Green Crayons]

Also LOL at Rory and Umlaut.

Speaking of bussing above, check last game. I wasn't afraid to go after either of my scum buddies.

In fact I recall willing to trade one for GC by trying to connect the two. I legit TR'd a scummy. I'm not perfect and even my previous games has me TR'ing one scummy usually out of a 3-man team.

Titus was a counter-wagon and

daves was voted by confirmed scum. So I'll slot them in town-leans.[/]

[Green Crayons]

Also LOL at Rory and Umlaut.

Speaking of bussing above, check last game. I wasn't afraid to go after either of my scum buddies.

In fact I recall willing to trade one for GC by trying to connect the two. I legit TR'd a scummy. I'm not perfect and even my previous games has me TR'ing one scummy usually out of a 3-man team.

Titus was a counter-wagon and

daves was voted by confirmed scum. So I'll slot them in town-leans.

tag fixed