[Setup] VJK

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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Thu May 04, 2017 2:25 am

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In mayrix6, where towns are generally worse than other queues, jailkeeepr alone makes 7v2 balanced in a semi open. Therefore this is almost certainly townsided.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Thu May 04, 2017 5:23 am

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It's overall protown even tho sometimes vigs are awful shots.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sat May 13, 2017 9:14 am

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In post 9, MarioManiac4 wrote:a) scum don't have daytalk in matrix6
b) vig isn't always town-utility; could help scum win early
c) JK+Vig counter each other.
JK and Vig are both super strong in a micro (especially once the first of them dies), so not really? Like if vig shoots jk and gets shot, town is hosed, but that's pretty unusual. Barring that, you have a vig who scum can't stop, who can light up the scumspects (and frankly, probably shouldn't be shooting n1 barring a jk lynch or a jk claim [in which case you shoot outside the jk claim]), and you have a jk who scum can't stop.

I'd almost say that scum should have a 1-shot bp AND a 1-shot strongman in this kind of setup for balance, though admittedly I haven't deeply thought on it.
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SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:32 pm

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Or just give them a roleblocker period.

Like,

Roleblocker
Goon

vs
Vig
Jailkeeper
5 VTs

is AT WORST about even and probably overall a bit townsided.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 18, Gamma Emerald wrote:That makes it really bad for Vig to claim then.
That sounds like a feature not a bug

Also it prevernts the jailkeeper from hitting the vig which is also not terrible for town?
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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