Mini 1910: Railgun Mafia [Game Over]

[Titus]

Hey, just making one post in pre-game. Our hydra account is activated but apparently doesn't have posting privileges. We'll be posting under our mains until that gets sorted. Then will quote all these, so it can be ISOed. So obviously posts at a minimum until that gets sorted.

[Titus]

Mod: Grey got banned. I would like to stay.

[Titus]

Ok, I wasn't really paying attention to things today. I'll just start from here.

[Titus]

It depends on if he actually elaborates later.

[Titus]

VOTE: Carnelian

[Titus]

If Gamma is scum, XJordanX is highly likely to be.

[Titus]

I keep forgetting I am in this game. Help.

[Titus]

I'm still annoyed Carnelian hasn't reached out to me.

Cabd, you have D1. I have my preference unless the slot is replaced.

[Titus]

If you need more, we can chat tomorrow afternoon.

[Titus]

Cabd, you have D1

What is this in reference to?

Ny 199, I hate d1 so do whatever

[Titus]

Dunno what you're talking about, in the non-bizzaro universe that game ended on day five with Pine's lynch. And then we went and watched President Clinton hug puppies and not be an asshole on national TV.

Yes. That shall be reality for the next half hour while I decide to watch Smurfs, Boss Baby or The Circle because court got delayed.

[Titus]

But really; talk to me about day one. Hating it is no reason not to have at least initial reads. You mentioned a linked read with Gamma. Do you think it still holds?

*shrug* I think Gamma's reaction to Grey's idea wasn't good but I was just focused on having Grey and my playstyles mesh rather than reading and analyzing. I haven't been playing attention and not much has happened since I got back.

[Titus]

Hi. Please don't feed me bacon and eggs wisdom.

[Titus]

Did I miss something

Bacon and eggs was his scum hydra when we were buddies. I was saying please don't be scum.

[Titus]

Hello, Wisdom!

VOTE: Carnelian
It can't be normal for even Yume to literally not play the game, right?

No. I am literally voting bc Yume almost always, if not always says hi to me as town.

[Titus]

Who is Yume? Is that an alt or something? I'm lost.

Carnelian = Yume = Jeanne11

[Titus]

What d'you want me to say? I look at your reasoning, read Gamma's posts, line it up with my own gutfeel. Everything seems to be in order, so let's go ahead and unvote.

I mean you skipped the date entirely. At least make up for it with a bag of chocolates and a sorry note!~

Fiiine, but they have raisins in them.

I'm from California. Raisins are Arceus' gift to the world.

Cabd isn't in CA at the moment. I drive through a good chunk. Feel free to pm me Edo and we can discuss meeting up.

[Titus]

@Frogger, you know how Alisae says OMG! It's a Titus to me?

Yume tends to reach out to me in strategy. She didn't here.

[Titus]

DanelerH, could you link a town game you played?

lynching within {Key, Cabd, Yume, Daneler}

Why Key or Cabd?

[Titus]

We're going to have 100 vote counts by the end of D1.

Plz no

[Titus]

Titus please do things.

I must resist the urge to tell an adult joke.

Meh later. I think you and Carnelian slot might be scum.

[Titus]

Im guessing mine isnt based on my play

Vote positions

[Titus]

How are you reading daneler?

Null but don't wanna lynch

[Titus]

So your reads are basically jeanne scum for not talking to you and me because vote positions?

I know you can do better than that

Get me more to base stuff on. :-p

[Titus]

VOTE: Wisdom

He feels fake and over the top, trying to force things. Particularly with Hikari.

[Titus]

I mean Kelvin Smith by Hiraki. Both have same av.

[Titus]

Titus let's talk about Wisdom. Which post or series of posts by him most tellingly demonstrates his scummy fakeness?

All of them. He's trying to push people to have conclusions before appropriate times to do so rather than sort.

@Aeronaut, You might check signup thread for proof I hate d1. K thanks.

[Titus]

All of them. He's trying to push people to have conclusions before appropriate times to do so rather than sort.

thats just generic bs
Quote where i did that and show the scum motivation

It's your entire ISO.

Scum motivation is searching for things to attack.

Let's have it out. Vote me.

This will not be a 100 page back and forth though.

[Titus]

Yeah, okay. Talk about accountant?

I like how they called out Gamma for his baseless suspicion (32). I also like the conversation they had with Cabd on Gerry (99). Other than that, not much else has stood out to me. Overall, I would say that I Town-lean Accountant.

Dan who are your top scumreads?

I see there was no followup to that

Frogger talk to me about dan, and about titus while youre at it

Torque your last partner?

[Titus]

Or Accountant?

[Titus]

spamposting irritates me

Get prepared to be very irritated. Wisdom is pulling the same move from when we were scum together. He's locking in on a townie, saying next to nothing, and criticizing what happens.

I'll need Frogger and Cabd to come back to talk about this but I am about 95% sure Wisdom/Kelvin. Aeronaut has about a 50/50 chance of being the third.

[Titus]

Hell no. I'm near certain Wisdom is town.

Good luck with that Gamma. He likely isn't. He didn't care to sort me when I initially FoSed him and Kelvin. Instead, he just calls it weak and is in full on discredit mode since. Look at his interactions with Kelvin. They aren't sorting but friendly coaching.

[Titus]

He's stated in the neighborhood he believes Kelvin is scum.

And Wisdom is constantly attacking me in public and voting Daneler but he believes Kelvin is scum but treats him warmly? Slow down how fast you post, because you are hearing and not listening Gamma.

[Titus]

Im feeling pretty good about daneler/titus/frogger

Kelvin does not appear on this list Gamma.

[Titus]

I see the facts. I also know that he scumreads you, Dan, and Kelvin from what he has posted. Kelvin was in catch-up at the time, so my belief is he wasn't wanting to vote someone who was catching up.

Stop inserting reasons for players. You didn't ask Wisdom if he "liked the catch up" before hard townreading him. Wisdom also never really engaged the content Kelvin was making other than to say, try to use less posts.

[Titus]

I hard townread Wisdom before he came in.

Now, if this is based on the hood, I will punch hug you.

[Titus]

And that "outrage" wasn't public because? What was Keyen upset about? Outrage by scum can be genuine too. Genuine emotions does not make lock town. Nero SRs me almost every game. It's annoying and I get genuinely upset regardless of my alignment too.

[Titus]

It wasn't public for reasons I don't know. He was upset at me thinking he might be pocketing me, and said I had gotten bad at mafia.

So a slot attacked you for SRing him? Are you expecting keyen to be a robot when suspected? People don't cease being people based on having a red role pm.

Wisdom has taken the same angry discredit approach to me.

It's just scum.

[Titus]

Titus, if I offered you the chance to gladiate Wisdom right now, would you take it?

Yup.

[Titus]

Sequence of 3 posts
#1 "I don't buddy, ever"
#2 "Why are you sucking so bad right now you were good before you left"
#3 "Your SR on Accountant is terrible"
The indignant tone reads as town to me. It's probably lost here though.

It's easier to fool one person than a crowd.

[Titus]

But he wasn't aiming to please. He was trying to get me to wake up.

Semantics. Keyen was aiming for you to TR him versus scumhunting.

[Titus]

Wisdom has taken the same angry discredit approach to me.

yep im totally oozing anger

You are. Your frustrated sarcasm speaks volumes. Plus your projection at the bottom is telling. You are not expressing any doubt you could be wrong, yet you are trying to paint my confidence is scummy.

Do you still think Kelvin is agreeing with consensus? What about his catchup was good?

[Titus]

Aeronaut, for shits and giggles, what do you think of Gamma, Garry, and Daneler?

[Titus]

You are not expressing any doubt you could be wrong, yet you are trying to paint my confidence is scummy.

the difference is im not talking with anyone calling you town; as such i have no reason to doubt you're scum
You on the other hand are talking with someone telling you theyre certain im town; and your approach is to try to make them question their read rather than accept their input

That's hypocritical at best. If you ignore those saying I'm town, you get to stay in your wrong mislynch push as scum. But town trying to persuade other town is bad.

I'm accepting his input. He's trying to persuade me, just as I'm trying to persuade him. Your slot has to actually scumhunt and do things in the public thread, or my vote stays right here.

Again, you dodged my questions on Kelvin.

I've got to go for Mother's Day. Catch you later scum.

P.S. I'm so sure that Wisdom and Kelvin are scum together, that barring a scumslip, I'm not voting Daneler or Gerryoat today.

[Titus]

Titus, if I offered you the chance to gladiate Wisdom right now, would you take it?

Yup.

why?

I am that confident in Wisdom scum.

[Titus]

ya f it. first real vote

VOTE: Daneler

I dislike pretty much everybody voting Gerry. probably a sign that wagon shouldn't be touched ever

Ding. Dong. Ding.
Same with Daneler though.

[Titus]

Aeronaut, for shits and giggles, what do you think of Gamma, Garry, and Daneler?

Why do you think I can be teamed with Daneler? curious. I believe we are both the top wagons so far, is that why? or is there something else

I am never voting you. So this question makes no sense. I am hunting Aero with that question.

[Titus]

ya f it. first real vote

VOTE: Daneler

I dislike pretty much everybody voting Gerry. probably a sign that wagon shouldn't be touched ever

Ding. Dong. Ding.
Same with Daneler though.

You're scumreading Jordan?

No. I'm saying that the votes are why both wagons shouldn't be touched as both Wisdom and Kelvin are scum.

[Titus]

gerry is somebody who does feel like he's coasting. I'm comfortable putting my vote on him right now.

VOTE: gerryoat

Why are you willing to wait for titus but not for gerry?

Because Titus said that she doesn't like Day 1, so I'm more inclined to believe that might her the quality of her posting Day 1. To my knowledge, gerry has made no such claims.

spamposting irritates me

Okay, but say something about the content though.

I'm not reading the content because I feel irritated. Maybe tomorrow.

I'll try to consolidate things a little more for your benefit.

Hell no. I'm near certain Wisdom is town.

Is this for reasons that you can share?

Hell no. I'm near certain Wisdom is town.

Good luck with that Gamma. He likely isn't. He didn't care to sort me when I initially FoSed him and Kelvin. Instead, he just calls it weak and is in full on discredit mode since. Look at his interactions with Kelvin. They aren't sorting but friendly coaching.

Scum have day-talk. If we were scum together, why would he have to give me friendly coaching here? Why could it not just be that he's engaging me?

Also, do you have a case on me besides the fact that Carn didn't interact with you?

This post.

Scum having daytalk is not disclosed to me. I believe you just slipped.

[Titus]

Wisdom has taken the same angry discredit approach to me.

yep im totally oozing anger

You are. Your frustrated sarcasm speaks volumes. Plus your projection at the bottom is telling. You are not expressing any doubt you could be wrong, yet you are trying to paint my confidence is scummy.

Do you still think Kelvin is agreeing with consensus? What about his catchup was good?

In what way are you

not

doing everything that you are accusing Wisdom of doing?

I'm not painting his confidence as scummy. I'm painting his passive aggressiveness as scummy.

[Titus]

Nah scum having day talk is stated in the setup info section

Damn, you couldn't wait to see if Kelvin got flustered could you?

[Titus]

Bruh you made me excited as shit

Sis I know. Scum rarely slip like that but if someone's doing something, you gotta let them roll a bit. Otherwise, the reaction changes.

Sheep me?

[Titus]

Why the hell is him not playing his own game AI zzz
What do you think of Wisdom v Titus?

In 321, Gerry starts the game to get activity going. At the beginning of it, though, he chose not to play. If he cared about it, he would've given a read on Keyenpeydee. It makes me read that post as an attempt to look like he was doing something, while also not doing anything.

As for Wisdom vs Titus, Titus doesn't sound too good. I don't particularly like 630. She sounds angry in it, which is the easiest emotion to fake. "It's your entire ISO" sounds a bit forced, as it's not giving a proper example (granted, Wisdom used a similar line in 724). 631 and 632 sound like random names Titus is throwing around, considering she hadn't previously said anything about either Torque or Accountant being scummy.

You expect me to have the entire game solved by post 1000? When I hate D1?

I'm not angry, but annoyed. Town has poked me. You don't poke mama bear and expect it to be not annoyed.

[Titus]

Response to 753

730: That's fair. If you mean to ask how close Frog and Alisae are, they're like, BFFs or something even more ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I dont feel RVS never ends. Just stating that I rather enjoy dicking around with my votes.

731: I think what Titus and myself meant to say was scum searches for things and twist them to make them seem scummy

732: zzz

Yes.

[Titus]

Can y'all link the posts you're talking about using post tags? [post] is the tag. It's hard to follow.

@Gamma, Aeronaut read?

[Titus]

Point taken. I'll sheep you on Kelvin, prolly not Wisdom

I accept.

VOTE: Kelvin

While I prefer Wisdom, I can flip Kelvin scum and then show Wisdom scum with it.

[Titus]

In what way are you not doing everything that you are accusing Wisdom of doing?

thats a good observation and common in scum-titus; she often accuses people of things she herself is doing

Point taken. I'll sheep you on Kelvin, prolly not Wisdom

Dont sheep scum plz
Kelvin is town

Why the hell is him not playing his own game AI zzz
What do you think of Wisdom v Titus?

In 321, Gerry starts the game to get activity going. At the beginning of it, though, he chose not to play. If he cared about it, he would've given a read on Keyenpeydee. It makes me read that post as an attempt to look like he was doing something, while also not doing anything.

As for Wisdom vs Titus, Titus doesn't sound too good. I don't particularly like 630. She sounds angry in it, which is the easiest emotion to fake. "It's your entire ISO" sounds a bit forced, as it's not giving a proper example (granted, Wisdom used a similar line in 724). 631 and 632 sound like random names Titus is throwing around, considering she hadn't previously said anything about either Torque or Accountant being scummy.

Your gerry accusation is bad. If gerry scum wanted to appear like he was doing something then theres no way he wouldnt play his own proposed game. The fact he didnt actually shows he didnt really care about appearences.

Your titus points are good. Vote her.

I'm inclined to believe Titus in this scenario, the tone and content feel more town-driven than Wisdom's.

because unlike her i dont try to manipulate and i say things as they are
if you look at the facts its plain shes twisting the situation

Why would scumTitus try to pull that trick on me?

Ive seen scum doing that a thousand times

Quoting these posts in unison due to the fact they all show the same point. Wisdom is actively trying to manipulate town into voting me, while claiming town don't manipulate, while not actually voting me.

Wisdom/Kelvin/Aeronaut

:nod:

[Titus]

P.S. Town do manipulate. It's just called persuasion.

[Titus]

What's the difference?

The alignment of the holder, the point the person claiming manipulation is trying to make, why the persuader is doing what they do. It's not so much are you being manipulated, but why are people manipulating you.

I am manipulating because I was poked and think I found the scumteam. Wisdom is manipulating to try and turn town against me while having the Daneler mislynch wagon alive. Scumhunting is about either finding why or finding things that must come from town.

[Titus]

I

am

quite susceptible to manipulation.

Maybe you can show me the way out, Wisdom? I'd like to know how what she said is manipulative and how is there scum intent behind it.

ill let aero do it, i dont like explaining obvious things

I'll do part of it.

Every attempt to persuade is an attempt to manipulate. One is just a darker word. There's zero scum intent though.

[Titus]

so basically titus admits to manipulating and just names it differently

You are manipulating too but you're more interested in looking like a patron saint that you cannot even admit you're trying to persuade others to vote me while not voting me yourself.

The response to Jordan is absolutely an example. There's nothing scummy about my posting, but you're deferring to others based on lack of skill.

[Titus]

Why the hell is him not playing his own game AI zzz
What do you think of Wisdom v Titus?

In 321, Gerry starts the game to get activity going. At the beginning of it, though, he chose not to play. If he cared about it, he would've given a read on Keyenpeydee. It makes me read that post as an attempt to look like he was doing something, while also not doing anything.

As for Wisdom vs Titus, Titus doesn't sound too good. I don't particularly like 630. She sounds angry in it, which is the easiest emotion to fake. "It's your entire ISO" sounds a bit forced, as it's not giving a proper example (granted, Wisdom used a similar line in 724). 631 and 632 sound like random names Titus is throwing around, considering she hadn't previously said anything about either Torque or Accountant being scummy.

You expect me to have the entire game solved by post 1000? When I hate D1?

I'm not angry, but annoyed. Town has poked me. You don't poke mama bear and expect it to be not annoyed.

When did I say anything about solving the entire game? Are you referring to me pointing out you calling out random names? Speaking of which, where did those come from and, on a related note, where did the 50/50 on Aeronaut being scum come from (669)?

Vote count positions and explaining why Wisdom is tunnelling on me but avoiding voting me. That suggests Wis/Aeronaut, and scum did not want to overload.

Wis/Kelvin/Aeronaut explains why the wagons are the way they are, but Wisdom could be buddying Aeronaut.

[Titus]

Vote count positions and explaining why Wisdom is tunnelling on me but avoiding voting me. That suggests Wis/Aeronaut, and scum did not want to overload.

Wis/Kelvin/Aeronaut explains why the wagons are the way they are, but Wisdom could be buddying Aeronaut.

Okay, but how does that explain calling out Torque and Accoutnant (631, 632)?

Scumhunting and backups. I no longer think Torque is viable based on reactions, and interactions.

[Titus]

Vote count positions and explaining why Wisdom is tunnelling on me but avoiding voting me. That suggests Wis/Aeronaut, and scum did not want to overload.

Wis/Kelvin/Aeronaut explains why the wagons are the way they are, but Wisdom could be buddying Aeronaut.

Okay, but how does that explain calling out Torque and Accoutnant (631, 632)?

Scumhunting and backups. I no longer think Torque is viable based on reactions, and interactions.

So there was no actual reason? You really were just calling out random names?

There was. I was thinking based on wagon behavior of my pool.

[Titus]

Shes stubborn as scum too.

Yes, I know. I showed exactly how she's differently stubborn...it's in the WAY she's stubborn.

You might actually be the one player who reads and understands what I say about myself. It's not the tools that make a read, it's why people use those tools.

[Titus]

Titus is being stubborn with her wisdom reasons. Like directly stubborn ("his whole ISO", for example). When she was scum in MAFIACEPTION she was flat out deflecting and avoiding things, rather than approaching them with head on stubbornness.

1game metaing is bad
Shes stubborn as scum too.

I've played like 12 games with her.

But thanks for the discredit. I'm a HEAVILY based meta player, especially D1. Anyone who has experience with me will tell you that.

Yeah, this is bad wisdom. We've played for years, but the recent quantity of games, Frogger has your ass on a meta read. Plus, he actually knows how to do meta.

[Titus]

Mind telling me why Kelvin is town before you go?

He's not going to answer this with anything specific, like the half a dozen other requests before. He'll kiss ass, defer, and just focus on looking good and not having opinions that can offend. (P.S. That tends to draw my attention.)

[Titus]

Anyway, do you want to wagon Kelvin? Torque will do that one but not Wisdom. Then, tomorrow, we can flip Wisdom.

[Titus]

{Areo, Wisdom, Gamma} is my town block right now.

Nah, this is a crap block. Let's talk.

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

Titus; if I'm choosing between you or Wisdom right now I'm lynching you, it feels like you're making up for your lack of engagement as scum by finding somebody to tunnel to emulate your usual self right now.

I did tunnel in our last game d1. On infinity. Who was scum.

[Titus]

Yup, Wisdom is 100% lock scum. He'll only vote a wagon with at least one town on it, despite the outward confidence. He's waiting for permission.

Gamma's still town just incredibily stubborn.
Kelvin is still scum, chainsawing Frogger.
Wisdom suddenly TRs Kelvin after an empty catchup and deflects rather than explaining why and spams rather than engaging.

It's probably Wisdom, Kelvin, Accountant.

[Titus]

Yup, Wisdom is 100% lock scum. He'll only vote a wagon with at least one town on it, despite the outward confidence. He's waiting for permission.

Gamma's still town just incredibily stubborn.
Kelvin is still scum, chainsawing Frogger.
Wisdom suddenly TRs Kelvin after an empty catchup and deflects rather than explaining why and spams rather than engaging.

It's probably Wisdom, Kelvin, Accountant.

Sorry Aero not Accountant.

[Titus]

if titus lives to lylo and wins the game im quitting mafia again

Stop with the AtE and engage the game. Your setup is an impossibility, and we both know it, but you're trying to guilt players into voting me.

Why was Kelvin's catchup good?

[Titus]

What the hell do you think chainsawing is?

Voting your scumpartner's attacker. In this case, Frogger attacks you and Wisdom. You vote Frogger.

[Titus]

here, free mafia lessons for our newbies

instead of the easy thought that comes to you "wow daneler is right, wisdom cant explain his read, i think i dont want to sheep wisdom"

you need to learn to look deeper; does wisdom need to explain to scum why they are scum?
Does dan actually have any town motivation for insisting to hear why hes being scumread? Or is there obvious scum motivation in that?

And thus you easily understand that no matter how much you hate how wisdom is playing, hes town, hes caught scum, and you need to sheep.

Free mafia lesson for newbies

Wisdom is caught scum that cannot explain his reads, so he tries to paint those questioning for explanations as scummy.

[Titus]

your flailing makes me smile

your projection makes me laugh.

Say, what is your Aeronaut and your accountant reads?

[Titus]

town and town

Why?

[Titus]

Wis, you're being a little obtuse man. Go ahead and unpack it, I know it hurts but yeah.

youre not voting titus yet

I used to be, yeah. I'm really not these days. Married life, etc etc. Time drags don't work anymore.

Here...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Titus

NOW will you stop being so goddamn stubbornly obtuse?

Why do you think giving Wisdom what he wants will suddenly make him less obtuse?

Wisdom is basically Infinity from our last game but better at it.

The only reassurance that I am getting from this is most if not all the scum are already on the wagon.

[Titus]

Wis, you're being a little obtuse man. Go ahead and unpack it, I know it hurts but yeah.

youre not voting titus yet

I used to be, yeah. I'm really not these days. Married life, etc etc. Time drags don't work anymore.

Here...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Titus

NOW will you stop being so goddamn stubbornly obtuse?

Why do you think giving Wisdom what he wants will suddenly make him less obtuse?

Wisdom is basically Infinity from our last game but better at it.

The only reassurance that I am getting from this is most if not all the scum are already on the wagon.

This is the weakest response from you at somebody you think is town voting you I've seen from you almost ever. Why are you rolling over? I'd expect town you to be stark mad I'd vote you and telling me why not. IDGI.

Yeah, my lynch pretty much solves the game at this point, so I am not mad at all. All you have to do is basically not crap on the thread and do basic wagon thoughts, supposing scum being afraid to vote next to each other until one of their own was wagoned and the team got scared.

Wisdom tunnels me but never votes me while just Aero is on the wagon. Wisdom and Kelvin sit as third votes on wagons while game nearly dies. They both distance from these wagons, leaving an out to vote the other. Particularly Wisdom in his refusal to explain votes.

Kelvin goes from townreading my push on him to scumreading the same tone to give the Titus wagon momentum. The disagreement on the definition of a chainsaw that's practically ripped from the wiki is bad.

What good does pissing you off do when that never lead you to Infinity in Accounting Mafia or Nero in NY 199? Nope. It probably gets me hung up on chasing the lies from town Tywins. Wisdom is depending on that anger to have something he calls failing to discredit me and discredit solving the game.

Most everyone else, barring Accountant, has town told anyway.

So, you want to reward Wisdom for being an obtuse scumfuck or not? I'll be waiting on scum.

[Titus]

dw about it accountant.

I put {Frogger Gamma Gerry Daneler} townblock
Titus town from meta reasons
I can't really read Wisdom so I don't want to lynch him yet
Kelvin's posts are really useless, almost void of scumhunting intentions. I really want to flip him today.

Sheep this, but Wisdom is scum too.

[Titus]

Accountant what is making you scumread torque?

I'm not seeing anything in here that would convince me Torque is scum, so paraphrase what's in the hood PT

Meh, this is agency capture via hood mechanics. Wisdom says shit no one can verify, the prior slot holder did AtE, so we're just stuck waiting on Gamma and Accountant. It's easier to fool two people than an entire thread.

[Titus]

From your perspective, yeah, I guess. But no I'm really not. easily provable too.

Daneler's town because I stole his heart

Stop being a softclaiming joker

Either hardclaim or can it

He's a noob. That's probably a joke post, but that being sad a hard claim there is not good for town nor is highlighting this non crumb.

[Titus]

Side note:

Alisae comes from a school of thought that follows mine; The entire list of possible "good characters" was likely randomized and the top X amount skimmed off to reserve for fake claims. Not a single character claim is unlynchable OR automatically town, unless it's an activatable innocent child.

Now, you're annoying me. This does what to push the game forward, what are your reads?

[Titus]

Titus if you keep defending objectively scummy actions by someone who has offsite games and should know better I will lynch you and then lynch Torque

So you'll lynch town me for disagreeing with you, lynch obvtown after I flip town because you think your own reads are right?

Fuck off with that noise. The obvious scum are Kelvin Wisdom and Aeronaut. Catch up.

[Titus]

Justify to me why claiming you have an unlynchable PR under pressure from one person and noone else that will come in more than 12 hours is good for town

He didn't. Dude. You're reading a crumb that doesn't exist. Fuck off.

[Titus]

Why is Torque obvtown?

Spot on reads, basic wagon analysis, scumhunting out the wazoo, tone is amazing

Other than the non-existant crumb, which makes no sense as either alignment, you're really straining here.

[Titus]

Titus if you keep defending objectively scummy actions by someone who has offsite games and should know better I will lynch you and then lynch Torque

WHAT WAS OBJECTIVLEY SCUMMY

please point it out for me, because I seem to have missed it.

Softclaiming under no pressure

That wasn't a softclaim you funny person. It's just Torque joking around. Jeezus.

[Titus]

Frogger, you stole my heart this game. Can we go off to an island with smart town that are not assholes?

[Titus]

His tone is so easily fakeable what the hell? Calling spot on reads D1 before any flips?

Fuck that.

And we get to the core of the matter.

Frogger Torque and I are so in sync with our reads organically.

They are spot on based on the information we have.

Yes, our reads are spot on.

The tone of being correct and apathetic is my exact emotional feeling as well. It's actually pretty hard to fake. Most confuse apathy with lurking.

[Titus]

Torque/Titus are you two masons with each other y/n don't claim what role you are just say if masons or not

I am never voting Torque barring a guilty. I am not voting outside of Wisdom Kelvin and Aeronaut today unless an NL occurs. I will be voting the biggest out of the three. That's how confident I am.

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Frogger, you stole my heart this game. Can we go off to an island with smart town that are not assholes?

<3

Games when we vibe are so much better than games when we're buttheads who butt heads.

Agreed. I try not to. So just don't yell if I ever FoS you, no matter how stupid I am k? I has process.

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I'll try

I'm tired of yelling w/my friends over this game anyway

Ok. Code word Orangatang. If I say that, your yelling at me is causing me to read flail and lynch, ok?

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Froggo, Titus, you guys think Accountant would chainsaw this hard as scum?

No, but it's not that hard of a chainsaw. Accountant reeks of pride rather than scum. How could y'all organically agree and I not be there with me having all the hood stuffs? He's basically Math from Civ, means well but incirrect.

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@Titus: How many times do I have to ask you what your reaction is going to be as soon as you mislynch somebody? Are you just going to try to keep chaining mislynches or are you going to reevaluate your shit and realize you don't have a clue what you're talking about?

This question is pointless without knowing who scum kill. You're not a mislynch though, so *shrug*.

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You two want to wagon Wisdom for science?

I am in for this if you both are. So in.

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VOTE: Wisdom

Yippie!

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hanate!
kokoro ni kizanda yume wo mirai sae okizari ni shite
genkai nado shiranai imi nai
kono chikara ga hikari chirasu sono saki ni haruka na omoi wo

VOTE: Wisdom

Best case ever. Baaaaaah!

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{Deleter, Titus, Frogger, Gamma, Daneler, Gerry, Torque}
{Literally everyone else}

good reads list yep yep

Who is Deleter

Daneler

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Three headed hydra, if Torque wasn't bored. Nature's Force Fury.

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Then what's wrong with calling spot on reads D1 before any flips.

Why question it and say fuck that?

Logically fallacious line of thinking

Accountant, can you post what you see in the hood that has blinded you? Thanks.

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What I wouldn't give for a single dayvig w/ flip right about now I could probably solve the game with one shot

That said

Titus, in the morning. I'm not ready to do this yet.

What shot would you take? What answer do you see based on flips?

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The fact that there is almost nobody that can be Titus's scummate is telling.

ok you are fucking kidding me

Sucks to lose and be caught d1 doesn't it?

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titus claim in your next post

Why? I can but I'm not at L-1, so there's no point. By my play, my claim should be deducible anyway.

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Meh fuck it. I'm a strong willed doctor. I can't be roleblocked in anyway.

Ok, we good now. Can we lynch Wisdom and Kelvin?

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UNVOTE:

Does anyone else, without claiming the full part of their role, have an unblockable modifier? This is important.

Also mentions no redirect either.

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No, I'm not unblockable.

Happy Cake Day.

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Oh awk

Gerryoat, are you going to answer Cabd?

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Ok titus should be on torque. If she dies, titus is confirmed maf

There's still one way my target can die. But yes, unquestionably I am healing Torque or Frogger.

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Makes sense. I think this means maf has a RBer if titus is unblockable. Why claim the unblockable part now though?

It's my role. I am not a big believer in actually withholding my stuff when forced to full claim unless I know a protown purpose to doing so.

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Makes sense. I think this means maf has a RBer if titus is unblockable. Why claim the unblockable part now though?

They might but I doubt it.

Then why tell me I'm unblockable and cannot be redirected?

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Just so we're clear, Titus. If my theory is right and I can semi-clear you; you'd better not fucking let somebody like pine pocket you again, okay?

That's why I am listening to my TRs. I can't guarantee it, but I can do my best.

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Oh, right, I promised to explain why Torque is scum.

Torque is scum because of the disgusting push on Kelvin.

What was disgusting?

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Cabd, if you ever wonder why I feel the need to control things as town, this is it.

Wisdom and Kelvin are the most obvious scum on the face of the planet. Wisdom never justifies shit on me. You've implied I am clear, yet, I am at L minus 2.

Fucking shit man, can you just vote Wisdom?

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im obvtown and you know it and you can do nothing about it

You are not town. You are not scumhunting. You're pumping your hood full of shit and there's nothing I can do about that. That's frustrating, but the townies in the hood wake up after that.

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as for not scumhunting, or not explaining, or any of that shit;

stop pretending you havent played with me before

That's why you're getting wagoned Bacon.

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see, even now you refer to a single scumgame and ignore the many times youve seen town me
Like, machina was the most recent; can you honestly argue im different here than machina?

Yes, but you know that I hate meta.

The crux of my argument is that you aren't scumhunting. That's textbook true. Even now, you're just pushing at me to silence me. You haven't provided a single reason why I'm scum or anyone else for that matter. You've refused to engage the thread because you know your scumpartners will back your play.

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and as i told dan; can i get you lynched without explaining shit? yes? Then i dont need to explain shit. After all, explaining only gives scum the opportunity to retaliate and look town

And this is why I didn't want to get into a long argument with you. You're spamming, using AtE and not justifying crap as scum.

It's exactly what you did to Singer in our game.

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I'm not willing to believe me about Titus until the rest of people answer, and. Y no means is it a clear up until everyone has answered. And a pattern matches my suspicions.

What pattern?

Edo, are you going to vote, given the deadline?

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Titus to answer that would be telling before everyone responds. Which ruins the info.

I'll wait. I was hoping for a partial answer to the pattern that wouldn't reveal the information, but I guess that doesn't work.

I'll go wait over here.

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13 hours... With several yet to chime in. Unfortunate. I can't risk a no lynch. People have a few hours to chime in before I just go do the thing.

Tbh, I think scum would rather no lynch than lynch Wisdom at this point. The fact that you're softing an innocent on me, I'm a claimed doctor and the votes are static is pretty telling.

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My role PM hints there's an unlockable of each alignment with flavor text. It was my hope that I could then effectively gladiate titus with the other person. That won't work. I'd get into more detail but there's no point. My flip will likely reveal more when it happens.

Hmph. I kinda thought Gerry was town fakeclaiming unblockable but the fact he persists after this well... :/ Maybe Aero wasn't the third partner.

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Fuck I don't want to admit I'm wrong

I promise I'll be here to switch. Lemme wait for Cabd for a bit

You're not. Wisdom and I are both at l minus 2.

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I want to see whose claim makes more sense as unblockable.

We have 2 hours, so realustically it's me or Wisdom.

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Fuck I don't want to admit I'm wrong

I promise I'll be here to switch. Lemme wait for Cabd for a bit

You're not. Wisdom and I are both at l minus 2.

Correcting this, I am at l minus 3.

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Fuck

What's Titus at, l-2?

Cabd, mind outing the flavour for the unblock able stuff?

It has to do with people who hate milk.

My guy is Heaven Chanceller. He umm doesn't appear to hate milk but I did control f milk on his wiki.

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Ok cabd, gamma, Torque is enough to hammer titus. You better all be here

If you're actually ccing me, you should actually cc me by claiming your role. If you're town being a game ruining asshole, now is the time to stop. If you're scum knowing you're dead after my flip, carry on. I cannot force it, but you should.

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Ok now I am at L minus 2.

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I believe cabd when he says there is only one unblockable, so that means you're scum. Maf has to try and kill me to find my role

So your character hates milk then? Or b, you would actually have a problem with his statement like I do. Who hates milk?

P.s. I know you're likely scum now.

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Fuck

What's Titus at, l-2?

Cabd, mind outing the flavour for the unblock able stuff?

It has to do with people who hate milk.

Gamma, look here.

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Uh possible but I'd expect it to be MAR and like... The little gangs they leaked stuff to. I'd expect kiyama to be a scummy sounding town role

I bet the scum one hates milk. My only flavor of milk is drinking milk tea.

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Gotta run downtown for work. Lynch Wisdom then Gerry.

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Wis was at l minus 1. We had scum.

At least Wis Kelvin gerry solved.

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NObody is explicitly stated to hate milk :[

Did u check lactose? Phone

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Torque u know i town force cabd vote wis

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When does town Wisdom ever change his opinion?

Hey vedith! Lessons to learn here. I do change my opinion.

No. Your opinion is who agrees with you. It's not who is scum.