Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

ISO · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:10 pm

In post 1155, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1150, havingfitz wrote:What are you saying.. "ok watcher"? And town watcher is a fairly common role. I don't think I've ever seen a scum one.
because I love doing research.

From mafia games 1400 to 1897

Full watcher - 9 times
Limited Watcher by some sort of modifier - 7 times
Mafia Watcher - 4 times
Mafia Joat with 1 watcher ability - 1 time

I didn't go previous to 1400 as I felt it was unnecessary.

Ok, I guess 'm wrong on scum/town watcher. But that's still not common.

Hikari Link · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:13 pm

In post 1378, PenguinPower wrote:Again...the fluidity is concerning given we still have a third of the day left.

Who care how much time is left? This game is over 50 fucking pages on day one and we're going in a giant, stagnating circle. I want this game to actually go somewhere, so I'm fine with lynches that get info.

If I were scum, why would I be so desperate to end the day? I'm almost universally heralded as town, so I'm in no danger of getting lynched and I've got a good chance of drawing the Doc on me, which would help my team. All I'd need to do is run out the clock and things would be just peachy for me.

ISO · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:14 pm

In post 1166, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Me

Alright twoface let's do this

This actually makes me slightly tr Wheme -- I've seen quite a few self-votes but practically all of them have been town w/ the exception of self-hammers.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:15 pm

In post 1332, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1321, TwoFace wrote:Why did you ask for people to explain their reasons for why they scum read wheme/transcend slot and

1. Didn't respond to the one person who did
2. Didn't really push the others who didn't respond to get them to
3. Basically moved on and didn't care anymore
I asked for opinions on Wheme because I replaced into a 48 page game where he was at L-1. I then proceeded to read his ISO, check out a few games (including one where he was scum, which I modded, and one where he self-voted as town), and decided that he wasn't scum based on his tone and play. Didn't really care about it after that.

Man that scum game was horrible, would of lost if RC wasn't my partner lol.

ISO · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:16 pm

In post 1177, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1175, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1173, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1166, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Me

Alright twoface let's do this
Oh I love when scum give up. Thanks.
No problem bud, how much will you yell at me when I flip town tho
If I flip town*

This also reads as town based on my experience w/ this stuff.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:17 pm

In post 1401, Hikari Link wrote:
In post 1378, PenguinPower wrote:Again...the fluidity is concerning given we still have a third of the day left.
Who care how much time is left? This game is over 50 fucking pages on day one and we're going in a giant, stagnating circle. I want this game to actually go somewhere, so I'm fine with lynches that get info.

If I were scum, why would I be so desperate to end the day? I'm almost universally heralded as town, so I'm in no danger of getting lynched and I've got a good chance of drawing the Doc on me, which would help my team. All I'd need to do is run out the clock and things would be just peachy for me.

Um, because there have been quite a few replacements, and I don't get the rush to end discussion. Your fluid voting, without regard to alignment, doesn't make sense as either alignment, tbh.

I actually never mentioned anything regarding your second paragraph, so, won't address.

MortFeld · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:17 pm

In post 1404, Ircher wrote:
In post 1177, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1175, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1173, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1166, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Me

Alright twoface let's do this
Oh I love when scum give up. Thanks.
No problem bud, how much will you yell at me when I flip town tho
If I flip town*
This also reads as town based on my experience w/ this stuff.

At the very least it's not a slip.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:18 pm

GUYS STOP PENGUIN IS TOWN I KNOW IT UNVOTE

WhemeStar · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:18 pm

In post 1406, MortFeld wrote:
In post 1404, Ircher wrote:
In post 1177, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1175, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1173, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1166, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Me

Alright twoface let's do this
Oh I love when scum give up. Thanks.
No problem bud, how much will you yell at me when I flip town tho
If I flip town*
This also reads as town based on my experience w/ this stuff.
At the very least it's not a slip.

Tried to tell Hikari that.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:19 pm

In post 1407, WhemeStar wrote:GUYS STOP PENGUIN IS TOWN I KNOW IT UNVOTE

?

Explain?

WhemeStar · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:20 pm

In post 1409, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1407, WhemeStar wrote:GUYS STOP PENGUIN IS TOWN I KNOW IT UNVOTE
?

Explain?

Uh just a gut feeling. I think if you were scum you would of subtly hopped on my wagon

"After a quick Iso of Wheme, it is really trash and blah blah blah... couple reasons. then a vote on me. "

ISO · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:20 pm

In post 1216, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1211, MarioManiac4 wrote:like
his selfvote is bad af as scum and I can't see scum doing it ever
His selfvote was evidently not a scumclaim now and although it is bad I don't think it was scum at all
(im going to feel so stupid if wheme flips scum lmao)
Scum self voting is not uncommon. More often it's as a hammer to avoid discussion but I've seen non hammer scum self votes. For the reaction you're having.

Quote me some non-hammer examples.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:20 pm

Soooo Ircher why you fine with voting me, and then have me as a slight toweread???

Please explain good sir.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:20 pm

@wheme: Well...yeah...I said that.

MortFeld · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:22 pm

In post 1410, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1409, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1407, WhemeStar wrote:GUYS STOP PENGUIN IS TOWN I KNOW IT UNVOTE
?

Explain?
Uh just a gut feeling. I think if you were scum you would of subtly hopped on my wagon

"After a quick Iso of Wheme, it is really trash and blah blah blah... couple reasons. then a vote on me. "

You really need to stop doing this. You will do it as scum and you will never be able to do it as town again.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:22 pm

In post 1413, PenguinPower wrote:@wheme: Well...yeah...I said that.

Wait you did what i just explained?

WhemeStar · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:22 pm

In post 1414, MortFeld wrote:
In post 1410, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1409, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1407, WhemeStar wrote:GUYS STOP PENGUIN IS TOWN I KNOW IT UNVOTE
?

Explain?
Uh just a gut feeling. I think if you were scum you would of subtly hopped on my wagon

"After a quick Iso of Wheme, it is really trash and blah blah blah... couple reasons. then a vote on me. "
You really need to stop doing this. You will do it as scum and you will never be able to do it as town again.

Do what? Im so lost right now.

MortFeld · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:23 pm

Purposefully create a bad ISO so scum jump on it

WhemeStar · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:24 pm

Well thats how I play.

I look at who scum reads me, look at WHY they SR me, and then evaluate them

I also look at who TR's me, possibly for no reason. and evaluate them.

TwoFace · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:27 pm

I hate meta but your play here is completely different than shizaro mafia.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:30 pm

In post 1419, TwoFace wrote:I hate meta but your play here is completely different than shizaro mafia.

Shaz mafia was different sooooooooo

ISO · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:33 pm

In post 1412, WhemeStar wrote:Soooo Ircher why you fine with voting me, and then have me as a slight toweread???

Please explain good sir.

I said that before I read those posts.

My reads have changed, and I no longer feel as confident in lynching you right now.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:33 pm

In post 1414, MortFeld wrote:
In post 1410, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1409, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1407, WhemeStar wrote:GUYS STOP PENGUIN IS TOWN I KNOW IT UNVOTE
?

Explain?
Uh just a gut feeling. I think if you were scum you would of subtly hopped on my wagon

"After a quick Iso of Wheme, it is really trash and blah blah blah... couple reasons. then a vote on me. "
You really need to stop doing this. You will do it as scum and you will never be able to do it as town again.

But if I do it as town every game, people will TR me for doing it when I'm scum

WhemeStar · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:33 pm

TwoFace · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2017 3:34 pm

Obviously. So if you're town why have you decided to just troll all game and do nothing? I don't understand. Why would you intentionally play against your win condition like you are now if you are town?