In post 5297, Kublai Khan wrote:1) You are claiming that you can identity the temperature of a glass of water by looking at it. Shall we run an experiment to see if you are able to do this?
No, it was a metaphor. Just like you don't mean I'm literally an amphibiann
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5296, Kublai Khan wrote:The fact that you mention it is the red flag.
The fact that you are keeping secrets from your loved ones is a red flag.
Oh? Using the word suicide is a red flag? Interesting. I don't know where you learnt that.
As for the second, I don't really love them. They don't follow the correct path.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5296, Kublai Khan wrote:Stop being the part of society that stigmatizes mental health. If everything is fine and you are as correct as you say you are, then there is nothing to lose by talking to the people who care about you.
But the people who care about me are really bad at knowing when things are fine. I wouldn't talk to my parents about my sexuality either.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5297, Kublai Khan wrote:2) Have them setup an account and post here. Or are you hiding things from your friends as well?
I don't think that would be a good idea.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
By the way, Kublai, you are forgetting one thing that guarantees that I will not commit suicide, and hence invalidates all the fake red flags you claim to have found.
If I am dead, I cannot live in utopia. There is no way I'd accept that.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
accountant may I ask you to ignore everyone else for a moment and instead of illustrating your utopia, present it?
I mean explain a very decent plan (not that people will accept it by themselves cause thats pretty emotional and really naive as you're not other people to decide what they will accept for them) about how people must move toward your utopia
and obviously this means assume we all want your utopia to happen - a happy place for everyone, development and where we humanity will be the gods of universe and universes - jut explain what i the path?
- equality?
- freedom?
- order?
How you imagine your world is governed? how can current civilizations move toward that basis without loosing their resources/benefits,
Thats when anyone is allowed to make a comment about your idea not before then and tahts when you can be happy that you talked something and you added something for a constructive argument to even happen here.
In post 5305, Frozen Angel wrote:(not that people will accept it by themselves cause thats pretty emotional and really naive as you're not other people to decide what they will accept for them)
I disagree
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5308, Frozen Angel wrote:I mean I don't care if you disagree with that sentence I asked something else from you.
The answer requires you to first understand my disagreement or you'll reject it because it's based on telling others what to accept.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5309, Frozen Angel wrote:and certainly if you disagree with that sentene then why are you even talking here? you beleive people will go toward that utopia anyway.
I guess I'm just a person who can't stand to see wrongness
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5312, Annadog40 wrote:For someone who can't stand to see wrongness, you sure are content to just sit around and wait for the probelm to go away.
An incorrect characterization of my stance - I am not "content" in the sense that I don't feel it's optimal. I am just taking the long view of things. In the now, I make sure I crush any speck of wrongness I see.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5313, Frozen Angel wrote:I want to hear the rest - assume I understand your disagreement
if you like explain your disagreement then answer that
The way people are going to move towards my path is that they will get smarter until they realize the self evident truths that comprise the path, then they will all follow it. The people who don't will be re-educated by those who do.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
is that smart science wise (as understanding nature and our connections with world and each other) or are you using the term just to say they will accept a certain ideology?
In post 5316, Frozen Angel wrote:is that smart science wise (as understanding nature and our connections with world and each other) or are you using the term just to say they will accept a certain ideology?
I mean increasing knowledge and research into the philosophical field of what is right.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
Your ideology is "science" now you have to explain why that is more important than freedom, fighting with poverty, removing corrupted governments, order, fighting with human inequality problem an whatever other ieologies people are fighting for nowdays to reach their own dream which might be the same as what you are suggesting.
Considering that the philosophy fundamentally relies on everything related to reality being false, it's frankly absurd to assume that rising intelligence will correlate to more people accepting it.
If anything, it's trending towards the opposite mindset.
Logic and understanding reality has been what drives humanity throughout time. Accepting 'the correct path' assumes we will do blatantly the opposite and make up stories for how the world works when we can't explain it, which we are starting to move past.
Plus you still feel the need to constantly push for it, which wouldn't be necessary at all if it's 'inevitable'.
Your ideology is "science" now you have to explain why that is more important than freedom, fighting with poverty, removing corrupted governments, order, fighting with human inequality problem an whatever other ieologies people are fighting for nowdays to reach their own dream which might be the same as what you are suggesting.
congratulations
My ideology is not science, my ideology is the correct path.
Also it accomplishes all those things so people fighting for those ideologies should follow my dream. Except freedom.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.