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[rb]

D2 FINAL VOTE COUNT

Flubbernugget (6): rb, WhyMafia, Michael Lee, Gamma Emerald, TheFuzzylogic99, Flubbernugget

Melanora (3): Backhand, CooLDoG, Kasumeat
CooLDoG (1): Melanora

Either both scum off wagon or 1 scum on and 1 scum off

I don't think it would have been a double bus, or Flubber's wagon would have gone faster.

I'm not sure about Melanora because it's the biggest wagon alongside Flubber - so let's say Flubber + Melanora are BOTH scum, then one of the scum is bussing and the rest are town on Mela+Flubber wagons. Seems unlikely because like, if the Flubber wagon keeps stalling because scum are trying to not have flubber lynched - why would they then get onto a Melanora wagon if Melanora is also scum?

So Melanora is probably town and the last 2 are Backhand/CoolDoG (I find that very unlikely though) or it's 1 of Backhand/CoolDoG with someone on Flubber wagon. That leaves WhyMafia/TFL basically. Michael we aren't lynching.

So the lynchpool is Backhand/CoolDoG/WhyMafia/TFL imo. Michael I'm not touching. Also need to look into Gamma's ISO to see what he was doing that got him killed.

[rb]

Actually yeah, I don't think Melanora is scum here. I townread her words even though her voting patterns have been garbage. But bad votes doesn't make someone scum and I find it hard to see her as a good lynch target. Her reluctance to vote flubber is bad I guess but remember that Boonskiies basically refused to ever vote flubber and had him as a top TR.

[rb]

Although she could have been trying to pocket Boonskiies to make a 'townblock' with Boon/Flubber/Mela, which if she was scum along with Flubber would be very hard to break apart if it went ahead.

Fuck, idk.

The other 4 I mentioned are definitely part of the lynchpool, I'll need to consider Mela some more but I don't want to rush a vote on her rn.

[WhyMafia]

Knew it that scum had an extra kill :-;

Unless we had a vigilante that was certain kasu was scum

[WhyMafia]

And I agree with RB

I believe that mela was the counter wagon to flubber, making her town. I haven't been hard scum reading her through most of the game anyway. That leaves CoolDog or Backhand as scum. Going to look at the voting patterns first

[Michael Lee]

I have a pretty bad feeling about my survival this day. Oops, don't be wrong about a scum lynch. Really surprised to see kasu flip town after flub scum,

and

that he was killed at all. There are two obvious reasons, I think, someone might be willing to reveal one of them?

Vote melanora

Still the most scummy and my next-most plausible buddy with flub.

wait........ why are you asking vig to claim? vig should stay hidden, it is beyond obvious that gamma was nightkilled and kasumeat was vigged

which means we have to look into the people that scumread gamma. surely, if town scumread gamma, scum would've hopped on. we also have to check between who scumread kasumeat, but not because it's a scumtell (hell, I was certain kasumeat was scum, everyone was), but more in the sense that at least 1 scum would've pushes kasumeat: AKA if there are 2-3 people still alive who all townread gamma, they're not a team. if they're 2-3 people still alive that all townread kasumeat, they're defiitely not a team.

[Michael Lee]

so I think scum has:

1 or 0 on flubber vote
1 or 2 on tywin lynch, or, supporting the lynch
1 or 2 on gamma being scum
1 or 2 on kasumeat being scum

which should clear out a lot of possibilities. from my PoV I think they probably have at least 1 on me being scum as well, but since flubber pushed me and flipped scum, not sure that will still be true

also the people who called flubber out the earliest, were persistent in him getting lyched, and pushed flubber the hardest and didn't switch to gamma/kasumeat/etc. are lockclear towread as well

[Michael Lee]

And I agree with RB

I believe that mela was the counter wagon to flubber, making her town. I haven't been hard scum reading her through most of the game anyway. That leaves CoolDog or Backhand as scum. Going to look at the voting patterns first

Is there a reason fuzzy is conf town?

or is it for being on flubber

I didn't like his earlier posts but I like who he pushed

cooldog looks bad agree, not sure on backhand though

[CooLDoG]

vote:rb

obvious reasons are obvious.

[CooLDoG]

could go for mel though

[Michael Lee]

vote:rb

obvious reasons are obvious.

so you ignore everything that happened day 1?

[Melanora]

I should have shot rb instead.

Want to know why gamma is dead? Because he was confirmed town.

Rb is definitely scum at this point.

[Backhand]

I have a pretty bad feeling about my survival this day. Oops, don't be wrong about a scum lynch. Really surprised to see kasu flip town after flub scum,

and

that he was killed at all. There are two obvious reasons, I think, someone might be willing to reveal one of them?

Vote melanora

Still the most scummy and my next-most plausible buddy with flub.

wait........ why are you asking vig to claim? vig should stay hidden, it is beyond obvious that gamma was nightkilled and kasumeat was vigged

which means we have to look into the people that scumread gamma. surely, if town scumread gamma, scum would've hopped on. we also have to check between who scumread kasumeat, but not because it's a scumtell (hell, I was certain kasumeat was scum, everyone was), but more in the sense that at least 1 scum would've pushes kasumeat: AKA if there are 2-3 people still alive who all townread gamma, they're not a team. if they're 2-3 people still alive that all townread kasumeat, they're defiitely not a team.

Because with seven people, vig's utility is at an end. If there are two scum remaining, we would rather lynch with 7,5,3 than 7,4 (possibly already losing)

Also I think there are good reasons that its not a vig and we should establish that.

[Backhand]

...

Sometimes I should check the "someone has made a new post" alert

[Melanora]

...

Sometimes I should check the "someone has made a new post" alert

Probably a good idea.

[Backhand]

Who did you target N1?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I have a pretty bad feeling about my survival this day. Oops, don't be wrong about a scum lynch. Really surprised to see kasu flip town after flub scum,

and

that he was killed at all. There are two obvious reasons, I think, someone might be willing to reveal one of them?

Vote melanora

Still the most scummy and my next-most plausible buddy with flub.

wait........ why are you asking vig to claim? vig should stay hidden, it is beyond obvious that gamma was nightkilled and kasumeat was vigged

which means we have to look into the people that scumread gamma. surely, if town scumread gamma, scum would've hopped on. we also have to check between who scumread kasumeat, but not because it's a scumtell (hell, I was certain kasumeat was scum, everyone was), but more in the sense that at least 1 scum would've pushes kasumeat: AKA if there are 2-3 people still alive who all townread gamma, they're not a team. if they're 2-3 people still alive that all townread kasumeat, they're defiitely not a team.

Mel is prob town..... Its possible scum has extra killer role but I don't think that it is likely,,,,,,,,

Mel
So you think that RB had been supper hard bussing Flubber???

ML
I agree .....anyone who is TR right now needs to rethink why... My town play have been blah this game. I should be read between null scum and null town so far imho, can you expand your reasoning on post 3006. Why do you think the scum vote happen that way

[Melanora]

Who did you target N1?

[CooLDoG]

vote:rb

obvious reasons are obvious.

so you ignore everything that happened day 1?

no, I'm taking into account how rb didn't want to lynch flubber

d1

, hopped and then bussed his teamate d2. Fucking duh. Look at the twyl wagon and then the flubber wagon... his buss isn't even that 'hard' given the fact that he posts very little and basically sat his vote there all day...

I should have shot rb instead.

Want to know why gamma is dead? Because he was confirmed town.

Rb is definitely scum at this point.

this is a vig claim, no?

[Backhand]

Who did you target N1?

Halpert Gif

I don't know what I'm supposed to get from that and why you'd be reticent at this point. Unless, of course, you were claiming a different killing role?

[Michael Lee]

UNVOTE:

I'm not vig. If no one counterclaims Melanora is confirmed town

[Michael Lee]

vote:rb

obvious reasons are obvious.

so you ignore everything that happened day 1?

no, I'm taking into account how rb didn't want to lynch flubber

d1

, hopped and then bussed his teamate d2. Fucking duh. Look at the twyl wagon and then the flubber wagon... his buss isn't even that 'hard' given the fact that he posts very little and basically sat his vote there all day...

I should have shot rb instead.

Want to know why gamma is dead? Because he was confirmed town.

Rb is definitely scum at this point.

this is a vig claim, no?

but from what I can remember, rb did want to lynch flubber day 1? and day 2. rb is like conf town for all I care, he made a BUNCH of good townreads and he manhandled the flubber lynch through

VOTE: CoolDog

[Backhand]

UNVOTE:

I'm not vig. If no one counterclaims Melanora is confirmed town

I would say "confirmed not a good lynch target today, probably dead tomorrow night"

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