Micro 710: Backup6 (Game Over)

[FireScreamer]

Particularly since he was on the wagon and jumped off and implied he would happily hammer after cc.

[FireScreamer]

I fail to see the case on FS.
I'd rather not make the PR pool any smaller though.

I'm happy with one more push to claim considering I know I'm town but I understand where you are coming from

[Wisdom]

VOTE: btd6

[BTD6_maker]

Wah. Guess MM thought I was coming for them today and decided to come out guns blazing. I wanted maker today.

I pushed at MM early and then pushed Tenshi for tunneling me when others agreed with my logic.

I consolidated onto Beli afterwards. I don't see how any of this is scum behaviour greater than Makers attempt to counterwagon as well as set up on MM on a red Tenshi flip

I'm not sure what you are trying to claim. I was not "trying to set up on MM" after a red Belisarius flip. Instead, I was stating that I personally think MM is more likely to be scum if Belisarius flips scum.

Also, as for counterwagons, the simple Town reason was that Belisarius was one of my Townreads and the wagons I was trying to push (ThinkBig, MarioManiac) were my scumreads. It would be illogical to expect someone to wagon their Townreads.

I just woke up and I am phoneposting. Maker when I made my early push on you agreed with it in thread and pushed me in that direction over Beli but didn't hop on himself. He then tried to build counterwagons to Beli all day before setting up on you when it was clear Beli was flipping

Again, I pushed my scumreads. A Townie is not normally expected to vote their Townreads.

You know. With another tracker entirely hidden it's not terrible play for me to just self hammer and cut the day off now. Yall powerlynch maker tomorrow while the tracker picks up clears elsewhere. Id rather maker today but the fight might not be worth it

This is much closer to actually setting up a mislynch, but I think it comes from a more Town perspective. You are probably Town here because if you do indeed follow through with your plan, you lose instantly if scum. If you are Town, you do not lose instantly and you leave Town with what you think will win for them. While this reads Town, it's bad Town. You seem very confbiased. If you are Town and we follow your plans, we will end up in LyLo. As for the UB, there are 6 Townies alive today (one of which is presumably the UB) and there will be 2 at LyLo so there is a 2/3 chance the UB is already dead by then. This is not a good plan for Town.

That said, MarioManiac is more likely scum than FireScreamer at this point. Out of MarioManiac and ThinkBig, this is now my stronger scumread.

VOTE: MarioManiac

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: BTD6_maker
For being scum.

[FireScreamer]

That's L-1

[EchoVision]

VOTE: btd6

of course you dropped off the wagon that was losing attention and hopped onto the new leading wagon

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: EchoVision
For being scum.

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: EchoVision
For being scum.

Why Echo?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: btd6

of course you dropped off the wagon that was losing attention and hopped onto the new leading wagon

^^^ this is scumposting
he isn't actually evaluating whether this is indicative of wisdom's alignment it's just noting a new thing he can push on

[BananaNSFW]

VOTE: BTD6

This is the only compromise I'm making

[ThinkBig]

@Nario - What is your read on Fire? Why the sudden shift from him?

UNVOTE:

I need to re read this game. I am getting paranoid.

[EchoVision]

VOTE: btd6

of course you dropped off the wagon that was losing attention and hopped onto the new leading wagon

^^^ this is scumposting
he isn't actually evaluating whether this is indicative of wisdom's alignment it's just noting a new thing he can push on

first off if I were scum why would I be on a wagon where I'm the only one? scum here quite obviously pushes for a mislynch and hops onto wagons that have a ton of traction and the potential to grow and end in a mislynch, they don't chill on wagons with zero votes other than their own.

Also did you not see my vote on him and reasons that I previously mentioned on why he's scum? chances are if I have my vote on him and scum read him then

I'm pointing out scum behavior to further my case

[FireScreamer]

VOTE: BTD6

This is the only compromise I'm making

A compromise compared to what?

[BananaNSFW]

VOTE: BTD6

This is the only compromise I'm making

A compromise compared to what?

lynching a claimed VT

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: btd6

of course you dropped off the wagon that was losing attention and hopped onto the new leading wagon

^^^ this is scumposting
he isn't actually evaluating whether this is indicative of wisdom's alignment it's just noting a new thing he can push on

first off if I were scum why would I be on a wagon where I'm the only one? scum here quite obviously pushes for a mislynch and hops onto wagons that have a ton of traction and the potential to grow and end in a mislynch, they don't chill on wagons with zero votes other than their own.

Also did you not see my vote on him and reasons that I previously mentioned on why he's scum? chances are if I have my vote on him and scum read him then

I'm pointing out scum behavior to further my case

first paragraph is scumposting that we should be lynching
the second paragraph is my point, you're trying to point out behaviour that makes wisdom scum without actually evaluating if your reasoning is correct which makes me think you're flinging shit to make it stick

[MarioManiac4]

zzzzzz
i think somebody asked me why i changed reads on firescreamer
to be honest it's the selfhammer show
feels genuine and im not sure he wouldve gone anywhere near it; i was considering allowing him to selfhammer and i think firescreamer wouldve realised that
also echovision is scum and there is only 1 scum left

[Wisdom]

I prefer btd6 than echo

[MarioManiac4]

well btd6 is at l1 nobody really needs to push on them we have the capability to lynch them
i'm much more interested in echovision

[FireScreamer]

We ain't pushing both to a claim

[MarioManiac4]

We ain't pushing both to a claim

i know
there are two things that I would want to happen
a) we wagon echo, echo claims, if tracker we lynch Firescreamer, if not we lynch EchoVision
b) we don't wagon echo, btd claims, if tracker we lynch Firescreamer, if not we lynch btd6

[Wisdom]

b is good

[MarioManiac4]

wisdom, why do you townread echovision?

[Wisdom]

i dont, i just think btd is more likely

[MarioManiac4]

whatever i'm not going to win this battle

intent to hammer maker

claim, give last testimony, etc