Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[LunaeCinere]

Hello everyone!
VOTE: aronagrundy

[LunaeCinere]

VOTE: Sesq

Oh hey game finally started.

Huh? You were the last one to confirm, right? So that means you had not gone online until the day started, unless I am missing something?

Lunae is that flower with a face in your avatar Flowey?

Yes!

wait l2 fuck

UNVOTE: aronagrundy

Why are you so concerned about this?
VOTE: Sesq

[LunaeCinere]

My earliest reads are that I townread CommKnight and Gamma Emerald but I'm not sure how to explain why! It feels like they are being open and proactive, trying to advance the gamestate.

[LunaeCinere]

Hello- I noticed activity has been low this game so here's a strategy that could work;
Each day the Doctors that will be using their abilities the next night claim. When a doctor claims, one cop from that night should also claim. That way we can get a secure way to get our cops protected without risking the cops getting hung dry.
- Of course, this has a disadvantage in that the Mafia will know who safe nightkills are and even the identities of doctors. Also, if there is no cop, the doctor will have outed their ability for no reason.
So, what do you all think?

[LunaeCinere]

why is being concerned about L2 an issue

especially this early

L-2 is not a bad thing! It feels like you are worrying about your perception, rather than actually evaluating the gamestate.

[LunaeCinere]

Lunae I could see being concerned about something being concerned, but Gamma Emerald?

I don't think we know each other!

[LunaeCinere]

why is being concerned about L2 an issue

especially this early

L-2 is not a bad thing! It feels like you are worrying about your perception, rather than actually evaluating the gamestate.

not in my experience

The positives of L-2 are the pressure it will give and the discussion it can generate.
What negative do you think outweighs this?

[LunaeCinere]

you can be scum starting it

i think you are

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I don't think this is town.

[LunaeCinere]

Na na na na na na na I'm gonna start a fight.

VOTE: LunaeCinere

Lunae I could see being concerned about something being concerned, but Gamma Emerald?

So why are you voting me and not Gamma Emerald?

[LunaeCinere]

I think people need to start making serious votes!

[LunaeCinere]

VOTE: LunaeCinere

are you an alt

I am pretty sure I registered an account here five years ago, but currently this is the only account I play on in mafiascum.
Why do you need to know the answer, anyway?

[LunaeCinere]

Lunae, if I gave you a gun and you had to shoot either NotTheRealPaul or yourself, who would you shoot?

Are you talking about real life or in the game?

[LunaeCinere]

why I dont like Seaq? or why Im leaning town on you?

I am not a Sesq alt!

[LunaeCinere]

Also Lunae feel free to shoot me (if real lofe).

Dont shoot me if its in game

Actually I was going to shoot myself irl and shoot you ingame >_>

[LunaeCinere]

Pls don't shoot anyone in real life

Well maybe people shouldn't be asking questions that make you have to shoot people in real life

[LunaeCinere]

why I dont like Seaq? or why Im leaning town on you?

I am not a Sesq alt!

this wasnt implied

It was! He referred to me as "you" while answering a post directed to Sesq.

Pls don't shoot anyone in real life

Well maybe people shouldn't be asking questions that make you have to shoot people in real life

it was never implied it was outside of the game[/quote]
There are no guns in this game, so it actually was! If you refer to something that isn't in the game but is outside the game, I will think that you were talking about something outside of the game.

[LunaeCinere]

Paul, do you have any reads other than me town and Sesq mafia?

[LunaeCinere]

Pretend someone gave you a 1-shot vig with limited targets then.

So a day vigilante? I would shoot Paul.

[LunaeCinere]

Probably because I was inactive lol. Anyways sorry about that (couldn't get on over the last two days). I just realized that I have no idea what diffusion of power is so I'll probably be looking at that for now.

Perhaps you could prioritise reading the thread and voting first?

Vote: Arogrundy

Creature is scummy for ugly sheeping after avoiding sheeping.
Could also lynch Sesq for the awkward wagon derailment.
I like Gamma as town, and guardedly Lunae and Paul.
Arogrundy deserves a vote though, because the VT thing was actually kinda screwy, and we never got a valid answer for it - also, hey, bonus, lynch a self voter.

Why do you think Creature is scummy but see aron's page 1 joke as more voteworthy?
VOTE: Co-operative Sheep

[LunaeCinere]

Alright- I'm looking at the thread through the last couple of pages and I want to vote alban. He has a staunch refusal to give out comprehensive townreads and scumreads- things are "towny" and "scummy" but he's not willing to call out anyone town as town, to vote anybody scummy, or to do anything but hedge and make it look like he's being a Good Townie and reading the thread.
VOTE: alban

[LunaeCinere]

uhhhh I guess this is what happens when you try to justify a read that has no reasoning >_>

I'm not really sure who's scum here actually- I'm getting townvibes from most people and although I thought alban sounded fake I'm not seeing that as much anymore.
I'm going to vote Gamma Emerald though because his push on HF feels weird; like, he votes him, and tries to justify it after the fact, but it just looks awkward and fake to me.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[LunaeCinere]

Because it's kind of expected from Sesq?

This is his meta? YAY WE GOT A SHITTY PLAYER IN OUR TABLE HERE

I don't like this post but I don't really know how to articulate why. It feels fake to me.

[LunaeCinere]

just because you post a lot doesn't mean you cannot be forgotten

flimsy

I actually agree with Sesq here.

But then how do you miss the amazing GiFs that are CK's avatar is the real question

Do you have anything to comment on the game now, Paul?

[LunaeCinere]

@Mutton; I'm not going to see my scumread as town just because you say he's obvtown >_>
Regardless I'm still not sure about this game. I can't see the scum motivation for what Sesq or CommKnight are doing here. All I really have is tone and gut which is not very helpful :/

[LunaeCinere]

Like I could act like a perfect townie in any of my games if I wanted to. Have you ever wondered why I don't?

To protect your bad scum play so you don't need to replicate it when scum?

To protect your bad scum play so you don't need to replicate it when scum? [/quote]
To be honest this looks like coming up with reasons to scumread someone... I really doubt this is a thing >.>

Creature
Hellfire Missile*
Agent Sparkles*
NJAC
aronagrundy
Cooperative Sheep*
LunaeCinere

^ Bet all scum is in this seven. Even taking a random guess you got a near 50% chance of hitting them. XD

Don't like this post

Is there any reason for that?

[LunaeCinere]

Hello?
I just came onsite and noticed Deadline is only in 5 hours >.>
I'll read up to where I left off and then I'll hammer Comm- I think he's at L-1 and is the only viable alternative to a no-lynch.

[LunaeCinere]

Or how about the Sesq wagon - how do ou feel about that, and the wagon composition?

I don't think Sesq is scum, although I do think she should probably start giving reasoning for her votes d2. (I also think Paul has been doing fine >.>)

Or maybe a deep insight into Gamma?
I couldn' describe your case on him right now, and I doubt anyone else could either - your wagon of choice is being ignored - how do you feel about that and what are you going to do about it?

I'm scumreading Gamma because his posts sound fake mostly >.> Although I do think he's been getting better recently- he's calling things as he sees them.

i've had enough

VOTE: NTRP

should be less mobile

^ Why is being mobile with your vote scummy? And why did you try to start a Paul wagon when it wasn't going to happen?

[LunaeCinere]

VOTE: CommKnight
Hopefully when this flips I can get a better idea of who's scum >.>

[LunaeCinere]

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-02 18:30:00)

[LunaeCinere]

Why was Gamma Emerald town anyway?

Great question!

VOTE: alban

well thanks for reminding me

but in reality, i just forgot. dont let confibas shook you.

i think it should be pretty evident why he is scum

Do I have to make another case to convince you he's town again?

I guess there's likely one scum in Agent Sparkles and Cooperative Sheep.

Why is this?

im night three doctor

counterclaim me

i fucking dare you

The docs and cops are randomized, so there can be multiple of the same role for the same night.

I agree that it's not necessarily a bad idea to lynch inside the claimed doc/target pool

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I'm not sure alban would claim n1 doc as scum after aron's post.

[LunaeCinere]

Guys
Alban is very clearly trying to avoid the 3 doc claim situation. This suggests he has a very large stake in making sure he or another in the pool isn't lynched. I'd rather vote him since it's very clear he is scum no matter whether one of the other claimed docs is.

Why do you believe Alban has to be scum? Sure, he's not trying to "sort" in N1 docs; I mean, it's possible all three of them are town, right? Sure, he may have doubted it, but that's no reason to prioritise it in particular. You're considering one thing about Alban, but you're not really considering the whole picture here. For example; what is Alban's scum motivation to claim doc here? Sure, maybe he has a buddy in Co-op Sheep and Agent, but why would he claim in order to try to save either of them?

Guys
Alban is very clearly trying to avoid the 3 doc claim situation. This suggests he has a very large stake in making sure he or another in the pool isn't lynched. I'd rather vote him since it's very clear he is scum no matter whether one of the other claimed docs is.

So you're saying that because he's not currently voting in the Doc pool, that makes him scum? How?
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
This is subject to changing but I'm happy to vote here for now.