Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[CommKnight]

VOTE: Creature HANG THAT THING!

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I like this set-up. It's going to be full of trolling the fuck out of scum. Like am I going to stop your kills or am I going to get a guilty on you? Am I going to do it tonight, or am I going to do it tomorrow night or even on N4? When am I going to be a danger to you? Will I tell you the truth until after I use my ability or before? Who knows, except me and you when it happens.

WIFOM THE FUCK OUT OF THIS SHIT!

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What's wrong with the wagon? Also why announce that?

WIFOM. It's a fucker and it hurts scum more than me. I mean hell I could be N5/6 and just trying to die early so N1/2's can use their abilities. WHO KNOWS?

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What's wrong with the wagon?

Also why announce that?

Is that not to me?

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Just the way the post lined up.

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you can be scum starting it

i think you are

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I don't think this is town.

Scum don't think very often.

VOTE: LunaeCinere Put on your thinking cap.

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A50 should just be town with me and help me find scum. He's a good scum hunter. (LOL, so wish A50 was playing this rather than modding it but meh, he can watch me in real action without him when he knows all the cards).

On a serious note. @Gamma, do you think I should trust you? We've played quite a few games together now and I think we need to sort each other if we're to scum hunt efficiently this game.

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VOTE: Cooperative Sheep

So says the sheep. I think this is a good choice.

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yep, you're scum.

you are definitely scum.

i had doubts at one point, wanted to see how things would play out.

but here, i know you're scum.

VOTE: HM

^ I like this one. She's my kind of crazy.

VOTE: Hellfire Missile

Hellfire Missile is obvious scum, is obvious.

Hellfire Missile needs to be hung before he explodes on someone tonight.

Let's hang scum D1. GO! GO! GO! Also FOS NotTheRealPaul. He's obviously either buddying Hellfire Missile or a misguided townie. Being not real and all.

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A50 should just be town with me and help me find scum. He's a good scum hunter. (LOL, so wish A50 was playing this rather than modding it but meh, he can watch me in real action without him when he knows all the cards).

On a serious note. @Gamma, do you think I should trust you? We've played quite a few games together now and I think we need to sort each other if we're to scum hunt efficiently this game.

I don't have a completed game with you

I think????

Bill Wurtz which you replaced out of.

Wow... I thought we had more completed games than that. Feels like I've been seeing you everywhere by now. Though to be fair, you were town in the Bill Wurtz even if you weren't there till the end.

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hellfire and alban are scum.

I'm feeling this too tbh

I'm not. I'm feeling one is scum, other is town. With scum leaning on Hellfire and town leaning on alban.

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Professional scumhunting brought to you by: Sesq, Comm & Gamma

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i swear to fucking god if i get lynched because Comm was joking and Sesq was being a piece of shit
im gonna be fucking salty
(I see why GE voted me)

Part of me is paranoid that he's signaling to his scumteam to not bus here

Honestly, his play has been very awkward so far. I mean it could be frustrated townie or scum. Based on what's happening to him. But his vote on Sesq kinda makes me want to keep my vote on him.

I'd be good with a Lunae lynch today as well. But Hellfire is the easiest to get reactions from. Wouldn't mind putting him to L1.

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@Gamma, I was about to say that. Haha, I'm so salty I was RIGHT and was not listened to. Happens regularly. I'm not good with expressing my reads all the time, nor do my arguments seem like the "best" but they're not something scum can avoid because it's not for reasons that you can find on a wiki with counters to them.

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Add Cooperative Sheep to the list of people I'd hang today.

The only people who fear gut reads are scum. Because they can look like perfect play and never do anything necessarily "scummy". But still be scum. That is where your gut comes in and says "They're scum". The fact that it's D1 (which you acknowledge in your post) but think people should have a perfect case is VERY telling. Why don't you start by telling us who scum is Sheep. Bring forth some damn good cases too. If you can't, don't continue with your shit.

I'd even lynch Sheep over Lunae now. This game is going to be a breeze catching scum when they act like this.

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Also, @Comm: why are you defending Sesq so much?

probably because hes familiar with my style

not with me personally, we haven't played before

Yep. Also the fact that the style is working. I'd also add NJAC to the list. So far I got: Hellfire Missile, Cooperative Sheep, NJAC and LunaeCinere. With preference in that order.

With 3 scum, obviously at least one of them are town. But I'll be happy to be right about 2/4 of them on D1.

Definitely think Hellfire or Sheep would be the best two to pick from today. Easy scum is easy.

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Comm ask Sesq why he scumreads HM

My guess is similar reasons as to why I and you scum read HM. Or are you now saying you voted HM without scum reading him?

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Has anyone has experience of playing with hellfire? He is pinging me badly.

I have not. Why exactly is he pinging you badly?

Who do you scum read besides Sesq and Creature? Because I believe they're both counter-wagons to Hellfire.

Also about Lunae:

34 - Early game buddying it seems. 2 TR's by post 34??? Really???

36 - Followed by thi

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(Sorry, I think pressed like shift + enter or shift + alt + enter or something and it posted before I finished.)

Has anyone has experience of playing with hellfire? He is pinging me badly.

I have not. Why exactly is he pinging you badly?

Who do you scum read besides Sesq and Creature? Because I believe they're both counter-wagons to Hellfire.

Also about Lunae:

34 - Early game buddying it seems. 2 TR's by post 34??? Really???

36 - Followed by this AMAZING* suggestion to out Docs and let scum know who's SAFE to night kill.

65 - And we weren't already?

After that a few fluff posts about who they'd day vig and followed by a couple of votes. Other than that, she doesn't really even have much contributed so far for me to comment on.

* = Sarcasm

Surprised you ask about why I scum read Lunae and not why I scum read you NJAC.

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1.) Against gut reads is because you fear gut reads. Especially when you're scum and they're right.
2.) It's trash.

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lol, I forgot about CommKnight, yeah he can be scum.

Tell me more about it.

I've posted every single day. Just because I don't spam the chat and you don't pay attention doesn't make my activity any more/less. ISO me and check the days. Not a single day has gone by you can't see that I have a post.

So take your "I forgot about Commknight" and shove it where the sun don't shine.

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Anyway, why is Lunae town again?

Look at my earlier post. I posted reasons she might be scum.

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@NJAC, I'll get to it later. Still took me to point it out for you to ask.

@Gamma, well I've been less on my Lunae scum read than I felt in the early posts. Coop and Hellfire are priorities for sorting.

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1.) 255
2.) Why do I have to acknowledge a bad case? Does my opinion on it matter that much to you? I think it's shit and that's that. I didn't bother making a fuss about it.

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Point to some "good questions" because besides what I pointed out, at the time she had like 2-3 posts after the whole "who would you kill" fluff.

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Yep, Hellfire it is today.

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I'm done with the questions sheep. If you can't see it. Then you never will see it. Which means you'll make the mistake as scum in the future, which is fine by me.

Seems to be 3 main wagons today. Definitely gotta be at least one of them on scum.

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Honestly I got like half way through his wall before skipping down to his reads. LOL. If town mislynches Sesq, I'm going to laugh my ass off before nailing the scum on her wagon tomorrow for being that dense to push probably the easiest mislynch in the game (and the most obvious for any town that gives a shit).

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Im drowning in CK's ego rn help

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I guess my townread on Comm can be discarded as it's just a huge fallacy.

LOL at the quick reversal on reading me. Here I thought you were reading me right for once Creature.

Also do any of you really think Sesq would play like she is as mafia? I don't see it. Point to something that is actually AI of her being scum. All I see is a bunch of chumps trying to wagon onto easy people because they can't admit when someone is plain town (whether or not the townie is right).

Hahaha, I've pointed to the exact post Sheep is worried about gut. You don't combat gut with "It's nothing/null/useless" anything like that unless of course the gut is correct and you have nothing to really defend against it with. Because of the gut read itself there's no real defense because the aura you give off is saying "THIS IS SCUM GUIS". I kinda wonder if some people are blind to it.

Like I could act like a perfect townie in any of my games if I wanted to. Have you ever wondered why I don't? Like actually really wondered why I act like I do and in the majority of my town games end up pinning scum? (This goes towards anyone who has previous experience with me on this site). I'll let you try to figure it out, but no one's fully cracked it yet.

The truth is though, you keep asking for "hard evidence." Like I said above. I could act like the perfect townie and give only hard evidence, never push someone who doesn't drop anything scummy and never drop anything that can be used against me. But what you fail to realize is that acting townie is easy to fake for scum. Playing scum they have to be cautious and take a serious approach. I'm town, I know I am, scum know I am, other townies might not know I am but I know I can act a certain way.

With that information, the other challenge for you is figure out why exactly I TR Sesq so hard. Buddying? Nope. That one I can promise is not it. So what is it? (Sesq might know, but no fun in her spoiling it). It's pretty easy to figure out too if you ISO her.

So come at me bro, I'm crazier than you are.

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Mutton & Sesq 100% town. LOL this game is lit. If you're town look at the Sesq wagon. That's definitely not all town.

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VOTE: Cooperative Sheep Time to pile town votes together onto suspected scum. (Also HM is not off the hook, just not close to the noose at the moment of my scum reads).

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Creature
Hellfire Missile*
Agent Sparkles*
NJAC
aronagrundy
Cooperative Sheep*
LunaeCinere

^ Bet all scum is in this seven. Even taking a random guess you got a near 50% chance of hitting them. XD

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I'm thinking Creature and Linae are green to be honest. But not as sure as the ones I took off the list. But if I'm right on those two, all three scum would be in Hellfire, Agent, NJAC, aron and Coop. Which would be a very good list to lynch from.

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Like I said before I could do Hellfire. LOL @ Sheep still pissed off with me. I love how people get hooked on my words and then act like they don't got any merit. Well then it should be easier to shrug off.

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Yeah, my vote stays on sheep. Trying to get people to vote sheep is like pulling teeth, which is usually evidence of the correct lynch. If you're gathering votes easily on someone D1, your mind should be telling you something is off.

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I'd also not mind lynching Gamma, he looks the worse in Sesq wagon.

I disagree. I think Hellfire looks the worst on the Sesq wagon and Coop looks the worst on my wagon. Both were OMGUS votes and both have not bothered to look elsewhere like they claim to want me to do. I'd gladly be mislynched over moving my vote off of scum.

I mean honestly. Coop claims to not be scared of gut when he dismissed gut reads. But where does his read on me come from? Oh saying I'm lying that he's scared of gut reads. That's it.

I believe he is scared of gut reads, him saying otherwise doesn't mean that what he says is true (as who would admit to it).

You see, I never play the "good" townie because if I did, I'd ignore the same people others are ignoring because there's nothing concrete physical to what they've said to get them for. But with my experience of finding/calling the scum team. I'd prefer to keep following the line I've followed for a long time. Until I am in a game where scum win because I was completely wrong about all my reads, then I'll look for a new tactic. But so long as games go where I'm town and landing the right reads, I'd rather land the right ones than play the "good" townie and land wrong ones based on physical content that you people rely too heavily on.

Coop's fear of gut reads are more in what he hasn't said compared to what he has said up to and including this point. You have to read between the lines to see it.

I don't mind being mislynched. No jimmies are rustled here. But I will not back down from the right vote even if I'm the only one who is willing to vote it.

Fastposted by Mutton. Honestly, I know it seems like buddying but how can you not see the bloody towniness reeking from his posts.

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I don't know why i am a suspect.

Because you haven't done much of anything - so it's easy to presume you as scum lying low.

What is your view on the Comm and Sesq wagons and why do you not support either at this late point in the phase?

It's shit like this that says Sesq is town and Sheep is scum.

We're almost at deadline and instead of hard pushing one of us he's like "Well why can't you vote x OR y?" You should be hard pushing one for a lynch if you really believe we're *both* scum. If you don't believe we're both scum, well you should be pushing the one you think is scum. But you know, the fact you're fine with two lynches so easily is what tells me Sesq is a fucking mislynch.

When town wakes up and sees this post for what it is, then that'll be the damn day Sheep eats this rope and we get scum D1/D2.

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Oh, wait, it's probably all in what I'm *not* typing, but rather what I'm thinking.
Sorry, I haven't adjusted my scum game yet to deal with ESP.
Friggin mutants are ruining this game...

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And before you ask:

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Honestly I have half a mind to let the timer hit 0 so we don't hit a N1 Cop or Doctor.

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@Mod: V/LA June 4-10th

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Why not lynch SHeep Mutton? Why the change of heart? Easier lynch?

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All I'm gonna say is check the dead thread and A50's message to me in it at the beginning. Out of everyone on Sesq's wagon (which had all 3 scum at the time) I tunneled the wrong bloody person D1. Yet it took everyone way too long to go back and check Hellfire Missile and no one caught Agent.

Honestly I have half a mind to let the timer hit 0 so we don't hit a N1 Cop or Doctor.

^ This Doc N1 soft.

Also the mislynch on Sesq was facepalm worthy, Sesq was my top TR and the town still mislynched Sesq after the entire team was on their wagon D1. XDD